The Labour Party is being remarkably coy about releasing the actual result of its Scottish accounting unit leadership election, giving only a percentage. The entirely complacent unionist media is complicit in what amounts to a deception. The stunning truth is that in a one person, one vote election among the entire membership of the Labour Party in Scotland plus trades union supporters, Dugdale won with 5,217 votes (out of a claimed electorate of 21,000, many of whom do not exist or could not be arsed to choose between two right wing numpties).
UPDATE: A second Labour figure just rang me to assure me my information – which was from a good source – is wrong. She would not give the actual figure and only said it was “higher”. I offered to take down the post and publish an accurate figure if she would give it, but this was declined.
@RobG -“Our governments are now completely controlled by un-elected corporations.”
this is exactly one of the (Soviet) memes that this secret CIA report warned us to worry about. . .
It is an anachronistic report, obviously, as it’s from ‘the good old days’ before the IC sponsored social media attacks. . .
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https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol13no2/html/v13i2a05p_0001.htm
British Jews send a letter to the JC.
“Your assertion that your attack on Jeremy Corbyn is supported by ‘the vast majority of British Jews’ is without foundation. We do not accept that you speak on behalf of progressive Jews in this country. You speak only for Jews who support Israel, right or wrong.
“There is something deeply unpleasant and dishonest about your McCarthyite guilt by association technique. Jeremy Corbyn’s parliamentary record over 32 years has consistently opposed all racism including antisemitism.
“Hamas was democratically elected in Palestinian elections generally accepted as fair, and Hezbollah also has strong electoral support in Lebanon.
“You report Paul Eisen as saying that Jeremy Corbyn donated to Deir Yassin Remembered. So did many people before discovering the existence of anti-Semites and Holocaust-deniers in the organisation. Many people attended the occasional fundraising concert that DYR organised, without either knowing of or sympathising with Mr Eisen’s views.
“As supporters of Israel, perhaps you agree with the racist statements of Israeli government ministers such as Eli Dahan that Jews have higher souls than non-Jews? Or Miri Regev’s belief that asylum seekers are a ‘cancer’? Or, would this be guilt by association, as in your character assassination of Jeremy Corbyn?”
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/142553/anti-israel-activists-attack-jc-challenging-jeremy-corbyn
They are described by Mr Dysch as ‘anti-Israel activists’!
Another view of President Carter. He is given credit for some of his actions but this record of his actions during the period 1977-80 is shocking.
Jimmy Carter’s Blood-Soaked Legacy
August 17th, 2015
http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/08/jimmy-carters-blood-soaked-legacy/
‘Macaray lists 10 accomplishments which were, indeed, impressive. Among them were supporting SALT II (Strategic Arms Limitations Talks); brokering the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty through diplomacy at the Camp David Accords; granting amnesty to Vietnam draft-dodgers, and presenting a plan for universal health care.
However, the self-professed advocate for human rights demonstrated quite the penchant for bloodshed. While he didn’t initiate any aggressive invasions of foreign nations the way his predecessors and successors did in Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan and many other countries, Carter proved remarkably generous at providing financial, military, diplomatic and ideological support for fascist dictatorships that tortured and killed millions of members of their domestic populations in an effort to crush popular movements for social justice. Some of the regimes he backed carried out mass slaughter that amounted to genocide.’
@RobG -“Our governments are now completely controlled by un-elected corporations.”
this is exactly one of the (Soviet) memes that this secret CIA report warned us to worry about. . .
I read your link with interest, RobG. As you say, it’s an old one – none the worse for that, and excellently written. But the ‘control of governments’ by ‘unelected corporations’ is the nucleus of truth on which all effective propaganda depends. It was then true to a lesser extent, perhaps, but today in the UK we have only to look at the donor lists,for the party in power, to realise that the influence that can be bought by a vested interest is far greater than that available to the voting public. The USSR or its successor can make the claim validly. Fortunately, however, Putin cannot claim that things are done differently in Russia.
If the obvious patriot writing the piece had done so today, he might have found additional cause for concern about the influence of other foreign countries – allies, nominally – on US government policy. Again, through the systematic corruption of elected representatives. This was not apparent at the time of Vietnam. It’s endemic now.
IMO it’s unwise to dismiss hostile propaganda out of hand. It may throw a new light on our own deficiencies. That said, I see no reason at all to believe Putin is a cuddly bunny who is prepared to play nice with the West.
Apologies, it was YKMN’s link I read with interest, not RobG’s. Or Mary’s post. Though if she’d ever said a good word about any American president, it would be easier to contradict her in turn.
Ba’al exalted, I completely agree with your “. . .I see no reason at all to believe Putin is a cuddly bunny who is prepared to play nice with the West”
I’m just reading “Le SAS no. 200” (Gérard de Villiers , dead, bad, spy fiction novelist) who’s novels aren’t just French disinformation, but have some humour , Poutine definitely is the bad guy, and this was in 2013
War Criminal Cameron.. Because Of War Criminal Cameron, Remorseless War Criminal Cameron uses words Like SWARM, Evil vermin of a man.
Here is a Heartbreaking foto…. Of some of the Swarm.. a Syrian fathers tears on landing on Kos Clutching his Children
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2015/08/17/world/europe/migrants-find-an-unbridled-route-to-greece/s/20150817-MIGRANTS-slide-4IDI.html?_r=0
And Amnesty piping up for a change – War Criminal Cameron, at it in Yemen –
“Coalition forces have blatantly failed to take necessary precautions to minimize civilian casualties, an obligation under international humanitarian law. Indiscriminate attacks that result in death or injury to civilians amount to war crimes,” said Donatella Rovera.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/08/yemen-bloody-trail-of-civilian-death-and-destruction-paved-with-evidence-of-war-crimes/
Another example of useLESS waste of British taxpayers money https://www.gov.uk/government/world-location-news/uzbek-officials-observe-the-parliamentary-election-in-the-uk
And another example https://www.gov.uk/government/world-location-news/british-embassy-tashkent-celebrates-the-queens-birthday–2
The last sentence says that local, international and British business sponsored the event. I wonder how many local Uzbek businesses were forced to open their purse to feed Elyor Ganiev and other bastards. Sevara Nazarkhan charges around 20.000 USD for 1 hour performance.
Those policies were imposed on Carter by the national security state. Brzezinski was David Rockefeller’s man in the administration, whom Carter was forced to appoint.
Ever since JFK was assassinated and Nixon forced out of office (both of them had attempted to establish control over the military and intel apparatus), the power of presidents over the national security state has been distinctly limited.
“Another example of useLESS waste of British taxpayers money”
I think it’s important that outsiders observe the workings of elections. Their observations, borne of greater objectivity, can be valuable and it keeps people on their toes. It’s not a waste of money.
Endorse Lysias on Carter. After office, compare and contrast Carter and Blair.
Labour MP’s preparing for a Corbyn win are ready and willing to sabotage the Labour shadow cabinet, or ignore it all together.
Only 15 Labour MPs are voting for Corbyn around six and a half percent. Others are refusing to work with Corbyn, they have nicknamed themselves, the “Free French Strategy” after Charles De Gaulle, and the French Forces, who exiled themselves to Britain to escape the Nazi’s and the Vichy regime.
The MP’s will also try and undermine Corbyn in anorher strategy called the “Maquis” named after the French guerilla fighters, the technique requires them to stay behind enemy lines and fight their cause.
That “Maquis” strategy was adopted by NATO as GLADIO, a much less respectable operation. Maybe we should use that name, GLADIO, for the Labour MP’s’ strategy.
RoS:
It’s almost embarrassing watching NuLabour’s antics. If Corbyn doesn’t win, or if and when they succeed in overturning the democratic will of the membership, they really do need a new name.
Libor, perhaps. Maybe the Pee Party, as they’re pissing all over their founding principles?
Since I shared the suspicion that was voiced on this forum about a month ago that the former LibDem MP whom Esther Baker accused of sexually abusing her while she was an underage girl was Charles Kennedy, I feel obliged to point out that apparently the former MP in question cannot have been Kennedy, as the MP is still alive. Exaronews reports:
MJ
You are loosing a plot here. These observers were from Uzbekistan where there have never been an election as such (even the one in 1993 was rigged by karimov). There were not members of public (representatives or civic society) but government officials who are directly involved in rigging the so called elections in Uzbekistan.
It was useless waste of British taxpayers money. It gave 2 Uzbek government officials free ride to/from London (Watford, but I doubt they stayed in hotel there) by business class (I doubt they flew economy), free lunches and other perks.
How many men who were LibDem MP’s in the 1970’s or 1980’s are still alive? One name in particular occurs to me, but, after I was so wrong about Charles Kennedy (whose death at the time of the accusations certainly raised suspicions), I will decline to speculate without more solid evidence.
The particular former MP in question here was of sound enough mind a few months ago to have made comments (denying his guilt) to Exaronews and other media outlets.
“These observers were from Uzbekistan where there have never been an election as such”
You don’t have to come from a democracy to know how it works or to observe it in action.
Baal, indeed it’s way past embarrassing now for Labour but it’s akin to watching a car crash in slow motion.
You just can’t take your eyes off it, I also wonder just how far Labour will stoop, to usurp Corbyn if he wins, Brutus, Cassius and Julius Caeser spring to mind….surely not.
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Lysais yes it’s truly shameful comparing what Corbyn’s trying to do to the Vichy and Nazi’s of WWII.
Mandelson has already hinted to the other front runners for Labour leader that they should all get behind one candidate, possibly Burnham, the problem their seems to be that the other candidates, all think they’re in second position, ergo no one is willing to back anyone else.
To add to ths hysteria yesterday McTernan criticised Gordon Brown for doing too little too late, McTernan criticising anyone is laughable to say the least.
McTernan went on to say only Ed Miliband has what it takes to transform the leadership race.
Miliband unsurprisingly has ignored McTernan’s advice, promising no to get involved in the convoluted leadership race.
Labour just don’t seem to realise that McTernan does more harm than good to Labour.
Scottish Labour’s branch office twitter feed, header says it all, how many years.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/a-fresh-start/
So there is someone among us (or perhaps not..) who implies that Nixon was forced out of office because he tried to “establish control over the military and intel apparatus”.
That’s a new one for me – and probably most people – but hey, one learns something every day! 🙂
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Cue “I wasn’t seeking to imply that”
People working for Amazon in Scotland face working conditions similar to a “19th-century cotton mill”, according to a trade union.
The claims came after the New York Times ran an exposé of Amazon based in interviews with 100 members of current and former staff.
The article claimed staff were expected to work long hours for little money, and were encouraged to criticise colleagues.
Staff were told to run or jog the length of the vast warehouse in order to fufil orders, which added to running a half marathon daily.
Amazon boss Jeff Bezos denies any wrong doing takes place.
http://www.thenational.scot/news/amazon-warehouse-conditions-like-a-19th-century-cotton-mill-says-union.6512
Nixon’s conflicts with the CIA and the Pentagon are well documented. The Watergate break-in was accomplished by CIA veterans, but they somehow committed rookie mistakes during that operation. The Washington Post, which so pursued the Watergate story, was a leading part of the CIA’s Operation Mockingbird for infiltrating the media. One of the original leaders of that operation was Post publisher Phil Graham, whose widow headed the paper at the time of Watergate. Post managing editor until shortly before Watergate was Al Friendly, with a background in Army intelligence (where he served in the same Army Air Corps unit with Phil Graham). Bob Woodward had been a White House briefer for the Office of Naval Intelligence. Alexander Butterfield, the man who revealed the existence of Nixon’s White House taping system, had been an Air Force reconnaissance officer. Fletcher Prouty, who had been the liaison between the CIA and the military services while he worked in the Pentagon, said that Butterfield had been the CIA’s spy in the Nixon White House. (Butterfield denied this.) Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Moorer used a sailor who worked in White House communications to spy for him in the White House.
I just listened to lysias link to the German interview and heard that she said ‘a local Birmingham MP’ which counts out the already mentioned CK. So who was MP in Birmingham at that time? should be easy for our sleuth here to find out.
But if someone finds out, please give him another name as not to prejudice any trial, some fictional name, like Habbakuk, or Buggalugs.
Lysais funny you should mention Watergate I watched a good film on the subject last night, called, All the Presidents Men.
Starring Dustin Hoffman and Robert Redford as the hungry young reporters Woodward and Bernstein, and Jason Robards as fearless editor Bradlee, of the Washington Post.
Thanks nevermind you made me laugh!
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Nah! That don’t count!
This Uzbek worries about our tax money, awwww isn’t that nice?
Shows that our elections are such a “transparent” and “democratic” affairs , don’t it?!
All the Presidents’ Men was indeed a good movie, but it does not necessarily have much to do with the actual facts.
Oliver Stone’s Nixon is probably much more historically accurate, especially about the limits on Nixon’s — and any president’s — power.
The name of Jaconelli, the obese ice cream king of Scarborough and friend of SaVile, resurfaces.
Prison Officer Makes Ted Heath Allegation
Another accusation is made against the former Prime Minister, while North Yorkshire Police say he’s no longer a suspect there.
http://news.sky.com/story/1537721/prison-officer-makes-ted-heath-allegation