Kezia Dugdale Got Just 5,217 Votes 1642

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The Labour Party is being remarkably coy about releasing the actual result of its Scottish accounting unit leadership election, giving only a percentage. The entirely complacent unionist media is complicit in what amounts to a deception. The stunning truth is that in a one person, one vote election among the entire membership of the Labour Party in Scotland plus trades union supporters, Dugdale won with 5,217 votes (out of a claimed electorate of 21,000, many of whom do not exist or could not be arsed to choose between two right wing numpties).

UPDATE: A second Labour figure just rang me to assure me my information – which was from a good source – is wrong. She would not give the actual figure and only said it was “higher”. I offered to take down the post and publish an accurate figure if she would give it, but this was declined.

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  • Kempe

    ” Not renewing Trident gives our country an opportunity to invest in industry, innovation and infrastructure that will rebalance our economy and transform it into a high skilled, high-tech world-leading economy. ”

    Why should that be dependent on abolishing Trident? Not only will there be costs, decommissioning and so forth, involved in disarming but the last Labour leader elected on a promise of ridding the UK of nuclear weapons ending up buying Polaris.

  • Kempe

    ” US Air Force conducted a flight test of an inactive B61-12 nuclear gravity bomb in Nevada. ”

    Crucial word there is “inactive”. In other words it wasn’t the test involving the detonation of a bomb but an aerodynamic test of a bomb casing. This does not violate the CTBT.

    Meanwhile in Russia:-

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-33151125

  • Mark Golding

    Thanks Brian – Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendall support the nuclear option because the ‘restoration’ of Trident and the submarines that carry them is much more potent than the ‘golden goose’ being a capitalist love affair, a bankers ‘wet dream’ with zero diplomatic repercussions to boot.

    Nothing in the Chiefs of Staff Committee modern strategic planning relates to our defensive nuclear deterrent except a policy statement that we are committed to working towards a safer world in which there is no requirement for nuclear weapons and continue to play a full role in international efforts to strengthen arms control and prevent the proliferation of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

    A Top Secret British strategic plan refers to the use of modern low yield nuclear thermobaric bombs that convert neutrons into infrared thermal heat energy, reducing fallout. It is an “infrared neutron bomb”. Such ‘devices’ have been the thrust of British ‘black project’ research for decades and devices have been tested in Lebanon and Iraq. I can confirm Britain has hundreds of these sub-rosa bombs off inventory which, used in clusters, can wipe out a city the size of Manchester in seconds without any threat of long-lived radioisotopes spreading globally.

  • RobG

    Kempe, I didn’t say that the US had exploded a nuclear device, I said they ‘tested’ one, which is against the CTBT.

    The US is also spending trillions upgrading its nuclear weapons; this while a quarter of American citizens have no health cover, and one million are living in their cars and the infrastructure of the country is falling apart, etc, etc.

    Only a complete egit will fail to understand where this will all end.

  • Mary

    Lindsey German of STWC writes:

    ‘Jeremy Corbyn has Blair Running Scared

    August 15, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – Running scared. That is the only explanation for the increasingly desperate and angry denunciations from the right wing of the UK’s Labour Party, as Islington North MP Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign looks more and more likely to win him the party’s leadership on 12 September. The mass grassroots support for the anti-war and anti-austerity candidate has taken most Labour politicians by surprise. Their horror at this development only indicates their sense of entitlement to their own positions, their undimmed arrogance in the face of political failure, and their paper-thin commitment to any form of real democracy.

    This week war mongering multi-millionaire Tony Blair published a second article attacking Corbyn. Blair warns of “annihilation” for Labour if Corbyn becomes leader. In the Guardian he wrote: “The party is walking eyes shut, arms outstretched, over the cliff’s edge to the jagged rocks below. This is not a moment to refrain from disturbing the serenity of the walk on the basis it causes ‘disunity’. It is a moment for a rugby tackle if that were possible.”

    His fellow warmonger, former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, told Channel 4 News on 13 August that elections cannot be judged on the basis of the Iraq war. Alastair Campbell, the spin-doctor who spun the 45 minutes WMD claim, has argued that a Corbyn victory would be a “car crash” for Labour.’

    /..
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42631.htm

    She concludes:

    ‘What is happening with Corbyn’s campaign is that many people are waking up to the fact that there can be an alternative political manifesto and that the dominant neoliberal agenda can be fought. Perhaps what frightens the Blairites most is that, far from the myth that this will lead to annihilation, such policies can win elections. The onslaught the Conservatives are planning in this government will meet widespread opposition: there has already been one mass anti-austerity demo since the election, called by the Peoples Assembly, and in October there will be mass protests at the Conservative Party conference in Manchester.

    The Corbyn campaign is one expression of that movement: the fear of mainstream politicians is that it lights a fire of opposition to their policies.’

    Well said.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Mary at 10:53pm, yes indeed. And – at the risk of sounding tartanic and be-kilted – it is significant that in this raising of the possibility of organised, mainstream, electoral opposition to the neo-liberal agenda, as so often in modern history, once again, Scotland gave the lead.

  • RobG

    @Mark Golding
    15 Aug, 2015 – 10:28 pm

    I dread to think what types of weapons the Strangeloves have now developed. There are many claims of directed energy weapons being used in the assault on Gaza last year, along with the normal stuff like white phosphorus and depleted uranium and flechette shells, all of which are banned by the Geneva Convention.

  • lysias

    Hoss Cartright is a retired Marine general. Marine generals seem often to think more independently than their Army and Air Force counterparts.

    As a retired naval officer, I wish I could say as much of retired Navy admirals.

  • lysias

    Bernie Sanders is largely relying on small contributors, of whom he apparently has a lot. Ron Paul also had a lot of small contributors in his presidential runs.

    Why can’t Labour do the same?

  • lysias

    I wonder if Jimmy Carter’s cancer has something to do with his having been an officer on nuclear submarines.

  • Laguerre

    The idea that Corbyn is unelectable in 2020 is completely false. He hasn’t put a foot wrong yet; I’m impressed. For someone under such pressure, that’s impressive.

    Evidently, everyone’s waiting for him to make a mistake, including me, not fair but that’s the way things are.

    He seems to have a good team, and he’s reactive to potential problems (which Milliband wasn’t).

    I’m optimistic (as a natural Labour supporter), but I’m waiting for the errors that will make him unelectable. I haven’t seen any yet. A hard life, when you’re examined in such detail, but that’s the way things are. Any left-wing politician will be attacked, in a way that right-wingers aren’t.

  • Laguerre

    re lysias 11.36

    I wonder if Jimmy Carter’s cancer has something to do with his having been an officer on nuclear submarines.

    Come on, he’s nearly 90 years old. People of that age frequently have multiple cancers that develop so slowly that they’re not mortal. He’s dying of old age.

  • lysias

    Yes, people at that age do die at an increased rate. But cancer used to be a rare disease, even among the old.

  • BrianFujisan

    ” Does Nicola really charge admission for for coming to see her”

    R.D

    The event was of course Free.. I could have said Tickets were Snapped up in record time… Free Free. a great event with great music By Stanly Odd, among others. a good day for freedom if i may.

    RobG Cheers..I think the Key words are Stated Testing again… Where will it End

    Mark Thanks and Jeezo. Now they want masses of innocents to explode from the inside, with those thermobaric bombs, Gawd we So need J. Corbyn

    Mary cheers for the STWC piece. how desperate they are getting,

    P.s.. Peace n light to your good self too… your tireless research is appreciated by Many, have a pleasant weekend Mary… and same to Nearly everyone

  • Laguerre

    re Lysias 11.56

    But cancer used to be a rare disease, even among the old.

    Not that it’s worth a debate, but in the past people died earlier of other diseases. It is remarkable that the cellular replication implied in human life continues as long as it does, so perfectly, without the errors that lead to cancer. Many old people have cancers which are so slow growing that they are not a threat to life. For Carter, I guess he is on his death-bed.

    For the young, when the cellular replication goes wrong, as in breast cancer, that’s sad.

  • Dave Lawton

    @Kemp
    More useless western propaganda. You should read the professional journals not the crap you provide. Even so did you bother to read it?

    “Over recent years, older, obsolete weapons have been withdrawn from service, so the size of Russia’s overall arsenal has been shrinking.”

  • Giyane

    Harpoonhook

    The land of Israel is a holy land, trodden by a multitude of the holy prophets of Judaism Christianity and Islam. Why therefore do you throw sand in the eyes of those who regard it as a holy land by trolling about women? Why indeed do you troll about women when you are a misogynist?

    It’s our special holy land we use for page 3 purposes and we need nuclear weapons and WMD to secure it for ourselves exclusively.

  • Mary

    The Electoral Reform Society tell us what we already know.

    ‘A spokesman for the campaign group said the statistics showed the House of Lords was “growing out of control”.’

    ‘The report – entitled House of Lords: Fact vs Fiction – also found that 10 peers were responsible for claiming £260,000 of the £360,000 from 2010-2015.’

    Expenses: Lords who do not vote claim £100k – report
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33947758

  • Habbabkuk (la vita e' bella)

    All this gloating about Dugdale’s votes reminds me:

    how many signatures has the “arrest Netanyahu on war crimes charges” attracted so far?

    Has the 100000 threehold been reached yet?

    Mr Goss…?

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Lysias, the aetiology of neoplasia (‘cancers’) is likely to be multiple and complex and the internal and external environments (which of course are all one) are very relevant. In relation to some forms of ‘cancer’, so are genes.

    But in a nutshell, because many, many more people are living longer than ever before in human history, it means that there are many, many more older people around than ever before. Those people – many of us, indeed! – who might well have succumbed to infectious diseases (especially under the age of five) in the past now are living longer. Accordingly, the likelihood of aberrant cell mutations not being destroyed by the body’s own immune system becomes greater, especially over the age of 50 (and even more so, after 65). It may be – and this is conjectural – that those relatively few people who lived to an old age in the past were intrinsically very tough – I mean had highly effective immune systems which had fought off TB, diphtheria, typhoid, cholera, plagues and so forth – and so they were able to destroy incipient cancer cells before they became cancer cells.

    We do not know precisely what Jimmy Carter’s cancer is; we know only that, sadly, it is metastatic. It is impossible to know, but I would have thought that it is unlikely that his time on a nuclear submarine had anything to do with his developing cancer at the age of 90. I am unsure, however, whether or not the incidence of cancer is higher than average among those who have worked in nuclear submarines when other factors are controlled for. One would have to study the research.

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