The Labour Party is being remarkably coy about releasing the actual result of its Scottish accounting unit leadership election, giving only a percentage. The entirely complacent unionist media is complicit in what amounts to a deception. The stunning truth is that in a one person, one vote election among the entire membership of the Labour Party in Scotland plus trades union supporters, Dugdale won with 5,217 votes (out of a claimed electorate of 21,000, many of whom do not exist or could not be arsed to choose between two right wing numpties).
UPDATE: A second Labour figure just rang me to assure me my information – which was from a good source – is wrong. She would not give the actual figure and only said it was “higher”. I offered to take down the post and publish an accurate figure if she would give it, but this was declined.
Amos – I do not think it is incompatible to recognise that the Israeli PM is unlikely to be arrested in the UK for war crimes charges, whilst also thinking he ought to be arrested for the same. I do not think it is a radical opinion that he should be arrested. The petition about this may be a waste of effort, but it is not vexatious.
For balance, I also agree that senior members of Hamas should also face similar charges. How different charges would be laid against various figures within the Israeli and Palestinian military and political hierarchies is presumably a complex matter, and I expect would be subject to public interest tests at the ICC.
“Yep. I read somewhere that the “terrorist” has denied that he was attempting to carry out “a jihadi attack”.”
“So that’s case closed then.”
Not necessarily, no. But tell me one “terrorist” attack where the perpetrators weren’t yelling “Allahu Akbar!” (to make sure they were identified), including during the famous Charlie Hebdo recent massacre.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11331426/Watch-how-the-Charlie-Hebdo-Paris-attacks-unfolded.html
“The defense solicitor is talking about a robbery and the shock of the suspect in finding out he is facing terrorist charges.”
The suspect was “shocked” was he? And the defence is mounting a defence! Any more revelations for us Fedup?
So the Moroccan gunman with Syria on his recent travel itinerary (as you do) “finds” an AK47 in a park, prepares it in a packed train carriage heading for Paris, all to rob some passengers of their petty cash?
Très pratique.
‘Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel and the US Ambassador to France, Jane Hartley, attended the ceremony, along with the head of the French rail firm, SNCF.
The Legion d’honneur was founded by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1802. The award is divided into five categories and the passengers are receiving the chevalier, the most commonly awarded.
A French-American passenger who was wounded in the attack, and a French citizen who first encountered the gunman and tried to overpower him, will receive the honour later.
Mr Hollande named the French-American as 51-year-old Mark Moogalian, who is still in hospital. The other man wishes to remain anonymous.
The president said he wished to pay tribute to both of them for their bravery.
Mr Moogalian’s wife told BFM TV her husband had seen the Frenchman tackle the suspect and had tried to intervene but was shot in the neck.’
BiBiCee
“Anon1 (18h52)
Also seconded!”
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I don’t see any “Anon1 (18h52)”
“Not necessarily, no. But tell me one “terrorist” attack where the perpetrators weren’t yelling “Allahu Akbar!” (to make sure they were identified), including during the famous Charlie Hebdo recent massacre.”
The attack was foiled. Doubtless he would have started praising Allah in the usual way had Allah allowed it to succeed.
Terrorists are fluent liars, and the fluency of their lies derives from their association with the deviant classes we call politicians.
This false flag and the other one, blowing up ( not ) of archaeological treasures in Palmyra, are intended to divert us from: Ukraine, Syria, Yemen where USUKIS is assisting Islamists against the aspirations of local citizens.
If I’d never heard of Gladio, I might think Shoreham was an accident. Why do helicopters drop onto pubs in Glasgow and planes blow up over West Sussex? obviously to make us think we live in a normal society ambulanced and policed by normal people, instead of a lunatic police state that is engaged in international war crimes.
Unless the financial crash ellipses it, keep your eye on all things Harvey Proctor this week.
The Met questioned Proctor for nearly three hours today under Operation Midland (child sex abuse) and apparently Proctor is going to be charged within the next few days.
“The attack was foiled. Doubtless he would have started praising Allah in the usual way had Allah allowed it to succeed.”
No, he would have been yelling it from the time he came in the doorway of the carriage. IMO you understand.
Anyway, got to go. I prefer to read a book before bed.
Mr Goss
You appear to be suggesting that because you post here under your real name your posts and links are closer to the truth than those of posters who use a pseudonym.
Could you
(1) explain further your “reasoning”
(2) tell us whether you consider the posts from Mary, RobG, Robert Crawford, Republicofscotland, Bevin, Giyane, Miss Castello, etc, etc, to be closer to the truth than those from Resident Dissident?
Thanks.
It is NOT illegal under international law to resist occupation.
Gaza is an open air prison.
I resent equivalence being given to Palestine and Israel, the latter a highly militarized entity funded and supported by America and its allies.
See
The right to resist in occupied Palestine: denial and suppression
The right of Palestinians to resist their occupation is enshrined in international and customary law, a fact that is denied and violated by Israel and wilfully overlooked by the rest of the world.
16 March 2015
https://www.opendemocracy.net/arab-awakening/poorna-mishra/right-to-resist-in-occupied-palestine-denial-and-suppression
John Goss
Is this new photo really you? Are you being groomed for power under a Corbyn helm?
I did prefer the old you, world-weary and slightly shabby twitcher’s cardigan and old-fashioned left-wing views.
Stop writing pish here, and watching porn vids, when you are not sending proof of posting for payment for you “contributions” and look around the net you will find it all there, it is all open source data.
ROFL!
How on Earth did they find this one out? Did mystique Meg have any thing to do with this bit? Or was this data gleaned through the use of Ouja board?
“Could you
(1) explain further your “reasoning”
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No. It is your “reasoning” not mine. Making your second request superfluous. 🙂
Are you Amos? Honest answer please.
Resident Dissident; ‘As for Macky’s lie about no left wingers opposing Putin’s interference in Ukraine”
LOL ! True to form, every link you ever provide, just like your idol Nick Cohen’s smears, falls to pieces when examined; how you could with a straight face link to a pseudo Left Euston Manifesto type site for a group called “LeftFootForward”, that was founded by Jack Straw’s son, and has as it’s current editor, James Bloodworth, and pretend it’s an impartial Left site !
James Bloodworth is responsible for this nasty smearing attack on Corbyn;
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-foreign-policy-antisemitism
He is infamous for his very right wing views on almost everything, even this;
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/James-Bloodworth-Should-Quit-Pretending-to-be-a-Leftist-20150408-0045.html
Perhaps you should also quit pretending to be a Leftist ! 😀
John
Of course he’s Amos – no one else on this blog uses the word ‘laddie’.
Anon1
Idiot. Which do you think is more believable, that the bankers lost all our money, or an old plane’s navigation system failed.
You fell straight into that one. Fool.
KOWN
I should have thought that saying “I am Habbabkuk’s nephew” would make it obvious even to the most dense of you….?
🙂
John Goss
24/08/2015 6:32pm
I got interested in this question of international law and the immunity of a Head of State.
I know I rushed into this rather hot-headedly earlier, so feel free to doubt this and check it out for yourselves.
Strictly speaking, what the UK Government has said is inaccurate. Heads of State are NOT exempt from arrest and detention under international law. The International Criminal Court can require cooperation from State Parties to its Rome Statute, which since 2001 includes the United Kingdom.
“Article 5 Crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court
The jurisdiction of the Court shall be limited to the most serious crimes of concern to the international community as a whole. The Court has jurisdiction in accordance with this Statute with respect to the following crimes:
(a) The crime of genocide;
(b) Crimes against humanity;
(c) War crimes;
(d) The crime of aggression
Article 27 Irrelevance of official capacity
This Statute shall apply equally to all persons without any distinction based on official capacity. In particular, official capacity as a Head of State or Government, a member of a Government or parliament, an elected representative or a government official shall in no case exempt a person from criminal responsibility under this Statute, nor shall it, in and of itself, constitute a ground for reduction of sentence.
Immunities or special procedural rules which may attach to the official capacity of a person, whether under national or international law, shall not bar the Court from exercising its jurisdiction over such a person.
Article 54 Duties and powers of the prosecutor with respect to investigations
The Prosecutor may:
(a) Collect and examine evidence;
(b) Request the presence of and question persons being investigated, victims and witnesses;
(c) Seek the cooperation of any State or intergovernmental organization or arrangement in accordance with its respective competence and/or mandate;
(d) Enter into such arrangements or agreements, not inconsistent with this Statute, as may be necessary to facilitate the cooperation of a State, intergovernmental organization or person”
This is particularly apposite in the case of Netanyahu, because I believe that Israel is currently the subject of an investigation by the International Criminal Court into alleged war crimes committed in Gaza. It appears that arrest and detention would only be lawful if they were entered into at the behest of the International Criminal Court. However, it seems by no means pointless that Parliament should be encouraged to consider and discuss these matters and bring them into public focus by means of this petition. For example, if Parliament was persuaded that there was substance to the allegations of war crimes then it could itself make representations to the International Criminal Court regarding prosecution of such crimes.
Kind regards,
John
Good piece here;
http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2015/08/24/to-the-new-statesman-writer-who-called-my-jewish-family-anti-semitic-for-questioning-israel/
@Jon, re Harriet Harman, forget to mention about Libya, so to rephrase my question, would you really make an alliance with somebody who is most likely complicit in torture via her role in “Extraordinary Renditions”, and who in addition voted for US-UK wars that have wrecked two countries, leaving mountains of the dead and humanitarian catastrophes in their wake ?
Mr Goss
“Mr Goss
You appear to be suggesting that because you post here under your real name your posts and links are closer to the truth than those of posters who use a pseudonym.”
Occasioned by your post to Resident Dissident,reading as follows:
“Of course if I held the same views as you do I would, for shame alone, cower under a false name.”.
So, please explain your “reasoning” and also answer the second question.
Thanks.
“I did prefer the old you, world-weary and slightly shabby twitcher’s cardigan and old-fashioned left-wing views.”
The left wing views have not changed. Still twitching. I keep missing a pair of green woodpeckers.
It’s just a selfie I did in my study. Many of the books are those that I bought for my thesis (18th century literature). Russian poetry of the Silver Age is well-represented, as is papermaking and its history, history books in general, anti-war, anti-torture, you can probably guess. I have a signed copy of Yevgeny Yevtushenko’s novel “Don’t Die Before You’re Dead” inscribed “To John Goss – To my brother-writer, Yevgeny”, you know, the usual stuff.
” – As soon as the bloodshed started on the Maidan, I wrote poetry. And then I wrote another poem called “Almost a dream”, it was printed too in all the newspapers – both Ukraine, in Russia and in other countries. This is how Ukrainian soldiers (There was an episode in the Crimea) met with Russian servicemen … And then they somehow found a common language, not shooting at each other, just shook hands and parted …
Of course I would like it to happen like that in the world. Unfortunately, the story took a different path. And, of course, I suffer from the bloodshed that is happening in Ukraine.
Even if I was not part of the Ukrainian blood, I would have experienced it as the simple Russian people. Because there is something in us that is inseparable. And I still continue to believe that we will return to human relations based on both heart and mind.”
Let’s hope you’re right, Yevgeny.
Apologies for the translation above. It has been done by a translating machine which are quite good. I have no time to do a proper job but you can perhaps get the picture that my fellow cyclist, poet and novelist does not like the bloodshed under Poroshenko.
“The false flag op is being sold as yet another “barbarians at the gate” story, and no one gives two shit s about it, other than your kind!”
I think I prefer my kind – you know the ones who actually care about people before pushing their own political ideology.
13,000 UN employees protest relief spending cuts in Gaza
24 Aug, 2015 18:05
Almost 13,000 employees of the United Nations Relief and Work Agency (UNRWA) have gone on a strike in Gaza protesting cost cutting measures.
“Stop the injustice. Refugees rights” and “The UNRWA is the only witness to the refugee catastrophe,” said the protesters’ banners. The rally started at the agency’s headquarters and ended outside the Commissioner-General of UNESCO’s office in Gaza.
UNRWA employees protest against overcrowding at UNRWA schools, unpaid vacations, downsizing, and postponing the academic year. The demonstration was called in response to the agency’s new rules that would impose one-year of unpaid leave on staff members and increase the number of students in UN-run classrooms, Associated Press reports.
According to the union, after the rule change comes into effect, more than 50 schoolchildren are to be taught in each classroom. Employees had unsuccessfully urged the agency to decrease the maximum number of pupils to 38 per classroom.
Despite Monday being the first official day of the school year, UN-led schools in Gaza remain closed because of the protests and more than 220,000 Palestinian pupils had no classes as a result. The protest was the largest in a series of demonstrations against the cost cutting measures.
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http://www.rt.com/news/313260-un-protests-gaza-palestine/
Macky – your broad point is that war criminals don’t belong in government, and I think it is clear already that I accept that. Since I am not an MP that has the practical burden of needing to make alliances in Parliament – such as Corbyn – I am free to say that I would not want to work with people who might, in an ideal world, be convicted later of war crimes.
However, we are faced with several practical difficulties. Firstly, war crimes tribunals may never happen. Secondly, if they do happen, we cannot second-guess the result. People who you are sure are guilty may escape on a technicality, or it may be thought that for some of them there is not a reasonable charge of conviction and so they are not charged, or perhaps they are completely and fairly exonerated.
Now, you and I may disagree on how to deal with these uncertainties. Since I am broadly in favour of the rule of law – as imperfect as it is – I am not willing to damn someone before they are damned by a court. If I were Corbyn and was elected leader, and needed to work with Harriet Harman, then yes, I would work with her, up until the point she is convicted of a crime. I do not think a purge is helpful: isn’t this what Corbyn supporters are justifiably worried about?
I think Corbyn just might – with an emphasis on the high odds against him – represent the start of a Left resurgence that has been waiting to happen for a decade or two. There will need to be some compromises, to maintain a broad church. I thus find myself trapped between Resident Dissident, who I think compromises too much towards the Tory narrative, and yourself, who will not compromise at all, and your position might stifle the movement before it is even started.
If you are of the view that a purist approach will further the programme that Corbyn is putting forward, I think you would find that Corbyn disagrees with you. He is very well aware of how much compromising he will have to do, and it is most unlikely that he will be able to achieve his full manifesto. However, you and I and others on the Left should be happy if he achieves some of it.
You don’t say? being the resident ……… everybody is out of step except you!
The whole steaming pile of manure is not getting any traction, hence your “contributions”. Evidently the distributed wisdom discerning the reality from the smoke and mirrors, obviously has escaped your attention whilst you have been busy practicing onanism/solitary vice/spanking the monkey with your preferences!
Nice work Brandon.
Housing Minister Brandon Lewis defends £31,000 hotel claims
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-34042547
John Spencer-Davis at 9.40 pm.
I agree. Whatever the government says it can be challenged. Without getting the 100,000 signatures, which is probably a certainty, there can be no debate. If it looks anything like unstable for the mass-murderer he just won’t come. That may be seen as a great victory. However it is a long shot. He will probably come with even more security. The irony is that MOSSAD could arrest Mordechai Vanunu, an innocent man, and abduct him from a foreign country, bang him away for many years for being honest, while this man, with as much blood on his hands as Blair can travel unimpeded, even supported, by our spineless government.
Corbyn Hysteria Running rampant in the Corporate media.
10 reasons NOT to vote for Jeremy Corbyn to be leader of the Labour party
at the bottom of this Stop the War Coalition piece .. is a video of Chunky mark, one of his shortest.. at 1;38 –
” We have Just signed a £7 billion contract with Israel, We Have To Test The Weapons ON GAZZA… What kind of bloody Monster is Jeremy Corbyn that he would stop that ”
http://stopwar.org.uk/news/why-jeremy-corbyn-must-be-stopped-10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-him-to-be-labour-leader