Kezia Dugdale Got Just 5,217 Votes 1642


The Labour Party is being remarkably coy about releasing the actual result of its Scottish accounting unit leadership election, giving only a percentage. The entirely complacent unionist media is complicit in what amounts to a deception. The stunning truth is that in a one person, one vote election among the entire membership of the Labour Party in Scotland plus trades union supporters, Dugdale won with 5,217 votes (out of a claimed electorate of 21,000, many of whom do not exist or could not be arsed to choose between two right wing numpties).

UPDATE: A second Labour figure just rang me to assure me my information – which was from a good source – is wrong. She would not give the actual figure and only said it was “higher”. I offered to take down the post and publish an accurate figure if she would give it, but this was declined.


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  • Resident Dissident

    “I would have experienced it as the simple Russian people. Because there is something in us that is inseparable.”

    So there really is no excuse for your pathetic Novarossiya, ethnic Russian, ethnic Ukrainian bullshit. There are plenty both sides of the Ukrainian border who have mixed ethnicity – and there is something in most Slavs that is inseparable – that doesn’t mean that they all want to or have to live in one big neo Soviet Union under the thumb of an autocrat in Moscow.

    You perhaps forget what Yevtushenko said about the Maidan or about the snakes who stir up madness for the sake of ideology.

  • giyane

    John Goss

    i have always loved English books from 1800 to 1830 because of that soft, wove paper they used, just before the Industrial Revolution. Before chlorine was used to bleach the paper fibres, HS204 to tan the leather, and wood pulp replaced sun-bleached linen fibre and retted flax.

    while I was in Kurdistan I visited a library of ancient Qur’ams and old bindings from the Ottoman Empire. One particular volume was very interesting. The binding was like an English binding from 1700, heavily stamped on the front cover, but the paper was fine, laid and polished as if with calligraphers’ gum arabic. It was hand-written in Kurdish. my guess is that the Ottoman Empire had an industrial scale of record duplication, with the most perfect paper quality you could imagine, and a fusty old-fashioned binding style.

    This was the Microsoft computer of 1795 Istanbul. Robust, efficient , impeccably clear in writing style.

    The British Empire set itself to ruin the Ottoman, as USUKIS has set itself to ruin the successors to Ottoman. Russia is one of the casualties of Zionist destruction. The ignorance of USUKIS about the world and all its diversity of culture is overwhelming.

    A Ziombie Thatcherite was talking about dairy farmers on Radio 4 recently. Nature to him was merely a profit margin, grass merely a cost on his till. The 1300 kilometre journey of Polish dairy products from US-owned cows in the new colony of Eastern Europe, a worthwhile investment to break the logic of a local, ecological UK industry.

    There is no doubt some economic value in war, loss of human life, and loss of human diversity. Only the Thatcherite economist could detect that value. That was her enduring legacy, knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing.

    Yevgeny Yevtushenko was a poet of extraordinary perception, delicacy and power.

    Try and explain that to the nutter troll Anon1.

  • fedup

    Mary your link has this gem;

    under the fairer revised expenses rules, he seems to be entitled to everything he claims.

    Whilst the hungry and destitute can only apply three times for help from food banks that is after they have been officially declared “poor” by the poor inspectorsb aka social services. The fairer system lets the troughers to get on with some serious gluttony, all in the best possible taste and above board and legal of course.

    Troughers’ job is never up for tender and they can get on with giving themselves pay rises and better perks!

  • John Goss

    RD. Novarossiya is nothing to do with me or Russia. It is what the people living there want. They were living there peacefully for almost 100 years till the people you support overthrew the legitimate government. There are blood-ties between Russia and Ukraine. It could all have been so different, as Yevtushenko said, but Poroshenko and the western-funded coup and creation of a failed-state has driven a wedge which has split families towns and regions that were getting on with the minimum of sntipathy. Now look at it. You cannot be my ally while you support the fascists. I see you come to their defence all the time.

    As to snakes stirring up madness for the sake of ideology I would like the link. I would be surprised if the snakes are not within and without the Rada today.

  • Resident Dissident

    “Yevgeny Yevtushenko was a poet of extraordinary perception, delicacy and power.”

    Which was why his poems were read out at the supposedly NATO inspired Maidan.

  • John Goss

    “Which was why his poems were read out at the supposedly NATO inspired Maidan.”

    He has ties east and west, is, or was, a US university lecturer. He was clearly used. He would not have known that Poroshenko was “our man in Kiev” (I paraphrase).

  • Resident Dissident

    Mr Goss

    I have news for you the wedge between Ukraine and Russia was being driven in by Putin and the his oligarch friends well before Poroshenko – remember the rigged elections, the poisoning of political opponents, the cutting off of gas supplies, the occupation of the Crimea, the taking over of government buildings in Eastern Ukraine – these all happened well before the Ukrainian army took military action. The vast majority of people in Ukraine and those in its government are not fascists, but people who just want to go a separate route from Mr Putin and the stifling corruption that surrounds him. I don’t support fascists anywhere or war crimes committed by anyone – never have and never will.

    As for snakes stirring up madness for the sake of ideology – you clearly do not know your Yevtushenko – it was the first thing my wife mentioned when I mentioned him to her. You are also obviously not aware that Yevtushenko supported the Maidan and even wrote a poem on its behalf.

  • Resident Dissident

    If Yevtushenko was used I think he would make that point himself rather than using you as his agent.

  • RobG

    For feck’s sake, the world economy is crashing around our ears, and all you lot keep doing is bickering about petty stuff.

    Craig, I would like to think that your silence is due to the fact that you’re involved in the political turmoil that’s going on.

    We certainly live in interesting times.

  • BrianFujisan

    R.d Features

    What wonderful Humanitarian Poetry..

    ” A childā€™s life is greater than politics.

    When will we learn to live

    without selling arms,”

    One of my greatest Joys of DTRH this tear was the teeny tots.. the joint was over-ridden with the cutest teeny wee yins.. So alive..the Whole thing so Vibrant… Stunning festival.

  • BrianFujisan

    Rob G

    Craig’s absence.. Every now n then… But this time he has been Busy putting in sometime 16 hour shits at the Whistleblower Bar..at DTRH.. .. 14 hour shifts Volunteering.. and a Couple of other Posters here too

    It was a joy of a fest..you would love it… Methinks

  • John Goss

    Giyane, I share your fondness for hand-made paper. Yes, it would have travelled westward through Kurdish regions. I did a cycle-ride heading for Samarkand, where paper came into the west from China via the Silk Road, the highly-secretive process travelled down through Iran, and up through Spain if I remember correctly. It reached England in 1495. I was very well received in the University of Istanbul by two gentleman involved in the papermaking department. Of course today they have Elmendorf machines and their successors. You are right about acid papers but sulphuric acid was used before 1830 to break down the fibres. The hand-made papers produced alongside paper made by the more modern processes using acid-reduced fibres and then Fourdrinier machines have not stood the test of time.

    If you look at Aris’s Birmingham Gazette you can see by about 1795 that the quality of paper has deteriorated. It goes brown and starts to crumble if exposed to the light. Hand-made, laid or wove, if reduced by Hollander machines is of a much higher quality. Fascinating subject. This is a bit risquĆ© so apologies if it offends. It will offend Resident Dissident who criticised one of my plays from a synopsis.

    Fourdrinier machines are still, I believe, called Fourdrinier machines today, which produced in the early nineteenth century and still produce a continuous roll of paper.

    Fourdrinier

    Watching you get into gear is a real turn on.
    Restrained by rubber deckle straps
    that blemish-free flow of puritan white
    takes a quick roll with another dandy
    and marks you for eternity.

    Your full chest heaves over the V of your breast-
    box to your raised apron and casts a shadow
    on the soft felt below.

    From the lick-up couch I watch through
    glassine eyes the parting of your pulp-stock lips.

    Your garters are showing at the wet end.
    Dry yourself off. And wrap up tight.
    I’m going to market you.

    Papermaking is a craft rich in suggestive metaphor which I have tried to encapsulate in my papermaking poems. šŸ™‚

  • John Goss

    Thanks Mark. Yes. I recognise one or two veterans for peace in the photographs, people who know the real futility of war, and who have suffered for their integrity.

  • John Goss

    Resident Dissident at 11.14 pm

    You are right I do not know every poem of Yevtushenko (I doubt your wife does) but I do not know every poem of Tennyson, Shakespeare, Milton, Keats, Shelley, Betjeman, Pushkin any sing clearly, than the one picked up from a radio interview to which I tried to add two missing words. Nonetheless, the radio interview does have his views six months after Maidan and that is important. He is a poet. Like me he believes in peace. It is a basic teaching of all great religions. All wars come to an end through negotiation. If we had negotiation and issues were resolved before war took place perhaps even you and I could come to some agreement. But not if you still support Blair and Poroshenko.

  • glenn_uk

    Brian: “Craigā€™s absence.. Every now n thenā€¦ But this time he has been Busy putting in sometime 16 hour shits at the Whistleblower Bar..at DTRH.. .. 14 hour shifts Volunteering.. and a Couple of other Posters here too

    16 hours eh? It must have been hell in there! šŸ™‚

  • BrianFujisan

    Glen… Lol..Yes i think some of them Love it… But very constant..Work.. i watched the hectic Antics Whilst waiting on a round…of freezin beer.

    I think we should make All politics chaps go to DTRH.. LIFE..the number of teeny tots.. very few teen ager’s.. the teeny yins ruled…

    Nervermind was on at 10 am..and did not get free till 12 midnight.. as we say Glen to be enjoyed..Ya gotta go next year Man

  • Dreoilin

    “16 hour shits at the Whistleblower Bar”

    ROTFLMAO!! (sorry Brian). I saw it too Glenn – oops, I just banged my head. Should be asleep.

  • John Goss

    Something happened to my comment at 1:21 pm

    A chunk of text has been removed between ‘any’ and ‘…sing’ and not by me, at least not deliberately. I had gone on to say that as well as not knowing the full works of any living or dead poet I thought that the translation linked by Resident Dissident was much better than the one I lifted from this interview and said so. I also included this link to the interview. Where it went I don’t know.

    http://ru-facts.com/news/view/36202.html

  • John Goss

    BrianFujisan 25 Aug, 2015 – 4:46 am

    It is a laugh sometimes Brian when comments do not appear as you think you wrote them. šŸ™‚ Not having an edit facility can make any of us look like we did not do corrections. But the truth is, we could not do them.

  • giyane

    How do people think London continues to control the world if not through the nest of spies, political men and women who seek asylum?

    London is ready and waiting to receive the highly intelligent refugees whose guile and presence of mind gets them by lorry, sorry and plenty of lies into benefit Britain.

    Here they settle down and send their infants to British schools on British benefits. They practise their religions only in order to claim to represent their communities.

    But in the history of colonialism those communities, the African Slaves, the Indian slaves, and now the eastern European ands Middle Eastern slaves. All of their problems started with the political shite from among them who sold their countrymen to the UK.

    According to a report on Radio 4 on the weekend more thgan half of the contents of our guts consists of microbes. Same with the nest of spies in London. London is the large intestine which digests the world and drains its wealth through the spies into the pockets of global colonialist corporations.

    It’s not a nice job, swabbing poo, watching the political digestive process by which the spies of London consume Ukraine, Poland, yugoslavia, Greece, Libya, Syria, Egypt, China.

    They are not nice people. They do not represent their peoples or their countries. If they are Muslim, they do not represent Islam or Muslims. They practise Islam only to be seen as part of the Muslim community in order to gain their place up the backside of Anglo-Saxon Judae-Christian Zionist power.

    I’m so glad the Chinese economy has caught a cold from Western capitalism, because it will teach them not to embrace the stinky guts of western capitalism.

    The slow and smelly digestive process of USUKIS neo=colonialism has already consumed South America, China, Europe, USSR , africa and the Middle East.

    Does anyone respect these political bacteria that help to digest these countries after USUKIS have swallowed them down the insatiable gob of western power?

  • KingOfWelshNoir

    Habbabkuk

    ā€˜I should have thought that saying ā€œI am Habbabkukā€™s nephewā€ would make it obvious even to the most dense of youā€¦.?ā€™

    Yes, thatā€™s true. But anyone trying to impersonate you could have said that, whereas the use of a word like ā€˜laddieā€™ is far more telling. In my view, your use of it completely nails you in that it contains your entire biography – the social milieu in which you grew up, the problems you had at school and the steps you took to overcome them and which led to the type of person you later became. The same could be said for your occasional use of the phrase ā€˜tea danceā€™.

  • Mary

    Yet we criticize the penal systems in other countries.

    ‘Those deemed to be the most dangerous are held in small units in highly restrictive conditions with limited human contact, often for many years.

    Hardwick said he found the system to be basically well run, founded on sound security and psychological principles and seeking to contain men safely and decently.

    But he said there remained a number of important issues that had to be addressed, including the need for some form of external oversight of operational decisions and tackling the concern that such a disproportionate number of Muslim and BME prisoners are being held within the system.’

    Number of most dangerous prisoners in special units doubles ā€“ report
    Twice as many men are in ā€˜jail within a jailā€™ close supervision centres in England as in 2005, half of them Muslim, says chief inspector
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/25/prisons-close-supervision-population-doubles-report

    I skimmed through the report last night! 97 pages
    Report on an announced thematic inspection of the Close Supervision Centre System
    HM Chief Inspector of Prisons
    9ā€“http://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmiprisons/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/08/CSC-web-2015.pdf

  • Mark Golding

    Giyane – In the midst of these ‘highly intelligent’ immigrants is the bogus imam, the Dawlat al-Islamiyah f’al-Iraq w Belaad al-Sham that distorts Islam to convert and enlist young minds into battle.

    Unlike the BBC who LAST WEEK rejected calls to drop the use of the term ā€˜Islamic Stateā€™ [The Independent (taken offline)] I shall bring to light this shrewd practice of PR; A clever way of bringing Daesh to our shores…

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