I shall also be speaking at the Hope Over Fear rally in George Square on Saturday.
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Herbie, Krishnamurti made it clear that he was not selling himself to ‘followers’ so you very much have the wrong end of the stick. It shows through in your ‘thinking’ especially as a follower of Chomsky, whoever he is.
More later. I shall help you reconcile your limited understanding of Einstein. As for your even more limited understanding of Krishnamurti, sadly, I will never be able to help you, I’m afraid. But can you help your self? I doubt it, very much.
Superficial and inner beauty are very old ideas.
What you’ve outlined above at 4.44pm is superficial beauty.
Much more Anna Wintour than Krishnamurti
Lay off the glossy weekend magazines for a while, eh.
They’re particularly ugly.
“If anyone wants to see the multitudes descending of the Tommy Sheridan appreciation society meeting in George Square there is a web cam.”
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Someone’s clearly not paying attention the event finished at 5pm.
It’s now after 6pm and there’s still more folk their in the square than there was at the Orange Order day out.
But hey don’t let the truth get in the way of a Fred story.
“glossy weekend magazines”
Sourced from a very confused mind. What do you know about Krishnamurti? In your own words please. I want to know with what credibility you speak.
Suggest you stick with your ‘deep’ Chomsky stuff and quote away like a second-hand human being, which is what you are.
“Fred I think you have missed the point. The usual MWL on here were working themselves up into a frenzy of the “refugee” crisis being all the fault of the West. Some were even gloating about it being payback. Even Craig was saying it was almost entirely our own fault.”
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Let me guess..Anon1, you’re so grandly deluded that you probably think it’s all the refugees own fault.
“Sourced from a very confused mind.”
Yes. Your mind.
You simply haven’t understood Krishnamurti and others who’ve addressed the matter.
And that’s why you’re fooled by superficial beauty.
I bet you think Marie Claire readers are “itelligent”.
Off the topic but I never thought I would find a rugby match exciting. The one between SA and Japan was just that right up to the finish.
There’s a Graun piece by Patrick Kingsley partly, at least, discrediting those figures.
The point seems to be that they are old figures, at a time when most refugees were crossing from Libya to Lampedusa. In that case yes, most were Africans, and few were Syrians. It’s quite different with present Balkan invasion.
Whilst I see I am banned again..So no one is allowed to politely Question The Fabian Society…???
Well you Fabians obviously don’t want to know The New Truth about what is Actually Going On In The World.
Why would you Think The Americans Would Talk To You Lot??
tony_opmoc • 22 minutes ago
Straw discredited himself more than 10 years ago – and Rifkind – I mean FFS…I hoped the bloke had some integrity as Parliament’s Main Interface and Control of The Intelligence Services…But Like someone said a Long Time Ago “The FISH ROTS From the HEAD”…
Meanwhile this little bit of News From Russia Is a Very Important First Step With Regards To Stopping This Mayhem in Syria and Terminate The Intelligence Services Creation of ISIS – oh come on guys – we know what’s going on.
“US Says Ready to Negotiate With Russia, Assad on Syria”
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150919/1027238781/us-kerry-syria-negotiation-statement.html#ixzz3mDF9PbzS
Do you guys know wtf is going on??? Just wondering.
“US State Secretary John Kerry said that the US is willing to negotiate with the Syrian government to resolve the Syrian conflict without the Syrian president’s removal as an apparent precondition.
US Secretary of State John Kerry said that the US is willing to negotiate with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to resolve the Syrian crisis.
The statement is the first time that the US has stated that it is willing to negotiate with the Syrian president on the issue. The Syrian conflict, in which the country has since 2011 battled rebels backed by the US diplomatically and later militarily, has led to numerous political and humanitarian crises from the rise of the Islamic State group to Europe’s refugee crisis.
“We need to get to the negotiation. That is what we’re looking for and we hope Russia and Iran, and any other countries with influence, will help to bring about that, because that’s what is preventing this crisis from ending,” Kerry said on Saturday as cited by Reuters.
A group of Syrian rebels supported by US politicians for their “moderate” position, and who received US military equipment, has disbanded after heavy losses.
© AP Photo
Pentagon Says 4 More US-Trained Troops Have Gone to Fight in Syria
“We’re prepared to negotiate. Is Assad prepared to negotiate, really negotiate? Is Russia prepared to bring him to the table?” he added.
Kerry added that while the US is still seeking to remove Assad from power is a sticking point, it is now apparently willing to allow negotiations to come first.
“[It] doesn’t have to be on day one or month one…there is a process by which all the parties have to come together to reach an understanding of how this can best be achieved,” Kerry said.
Previous attempts at negotiating between some factions of rebel groups and the Syrian government in 2012 and 2014 ended with deadlock as the US demanded an agreement that would see Assad’s removal from power before further attempts at mediation are made.”
Tony
Christina Airhead Patterson (*who?) speaks.
Christina Patterson on visiting Syria: “I was really surprised to discover that Syria spent a higher percentage of its GDP on education than we do. It’s a highly educated country with very… huge professional class…”
‘Further evidence of these hacks reside in a bubble-world existence because if she actually paid attention to what’s going on in the UK, Patterson wouldn’t have been so surprised and she would’ve been aware that “we” spend less (well below the average) of our GDP on higher education than nearly all of the other OECD members and have amongst the worst literacy and numeracy rates in the developed world.’
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1442689236.html
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/canada-tops-the-heap-for-he-investment/2015636.article
*http://www.christinapatterson.co.uk/consultancy.html
Her Twitter handle is Queen Christina.
She continued on the Sky News paper review.
“I’m superficially thinking, goodness! Doesn’t Nicola Sturgeon look good these days? She’s had, rather a remarkable makeover.”
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1442687975.html
Alcyone
Habbabkuk the sea-lion was not being witty when he described the farm salmon as swimming in their own shit, he was actually describing what he , the anorak troll following Craig up to meetings in Scotland, found all around him, MI5 agents like himself impregnating the locals. He only likes stalking Surrey babes.
Laguerre
Old figures. Libyan refugees came after the UK and French bombing smashed their wealthy and advanced country. Syrians have not left their own country to come and live with their coalition oppressors until they think they are imminently going to be given the Syrian treatment by the same coalition bombers.
Dosed up the eyeballs with anti-biotics and swimming in their own shit would be an accurate description of how most Muslim Syrians would view the US and Europe as a potential place to live.
Someone has to eat the farm salmon but not a preferred choice for Syrians.
Sorry, the Libyan treatment, not Syrian.
My objection is not that all the speakers are pro-independence (indeed, for such a meeting, coming from a pro-independence position is an obvious pre-requisite), but that (with the arguable exception of Dennis Canavan) all the speakers are SNP members/politicians/supporters. This will limit the debate and could be seen as insulting those independence supporters who are not members or supporters of the SNP.
Say what you like about the SNP, they have been the focus of the independence movement since WW2. The only focus, if you discount the advocates of violence and marginalised fascists in splinter groups – excluded by the SNP. LibLabCon have always fought independence tooth and nail.
The SNP did the wilderness years and the doorstepping, and they have the formal organisation which the recent influx of people disillusioned by the UK political system (many of whom will disappear if Corbyn manages to present a realistic alternative within the Union) simply don’t have.
Most of the experience on the nuts and bolts of obtaining independence is held within the SNP: people who are serious about it have had no other organisation to join. Historically, the SNP has welcomed all shades of reasonable opinion, sometimes with only the desire for independence in common. From tartan Tories to tartan Trots…both epithets have been used by their opponents, incidentally.
Therefore I see it as entirely logical that a public meeting on independence relies on SNP speakers.
But if you think otherwise, this is probably not the place to change anything: contact the organisers with your suggestions. If you are actually pro-independence, that is.
Mark Golding
“The appearance of women and their children distraught, wretched, bloodied, injured and dying while desperately fleeing from savages and barbarians in Syria is the undoing of this British government and I for one will pray this repulsive British regime is cut-down to it’s knees.”
‘They will reap what they sow’ is very deep spiritual wisdom but patience is also needed.
@Mary
19 Sep, 2015 – 6:00 pm
Thanks for the links, Mary. It’s all very depressing stuff, particularly since the meteorite-heading-to-Earth called Fukushima could be re-mediated somewhat, but instead the Japanese government wants to squander huge sums of money on a military build-up.
In recent weeks it’s been getting harder and harder to find news items about the unprecedented wildlife die-offs in the Pacific Ocean, because it’s not being reported. Most of the Pacific coastal waters of North America are now largely devoid of life: no marine creatures, no birds, no insects. It’s both totally surreal and totally heartbreaking.
(and for those who are unfamiliar with all this stuff, the west coast is downwind and downstream of Japan)
Suspect that Rob’s post is signalling fear of what is going to happen to Scotland on Wednesday afternoon.
Most of the Pacific coastal waters of North America are now largely devoid of life: no marine creatures, no birds, no insects.
Where the hell are you getting this stuff, RobG? Sorcha Faal?
http://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/3523105-151/coastal-fishing-for-salmon-begins-early
A very small selection from the last few months, and all from the mainstream media. There’s no conspiracy theory here. The conspiracy is that MSM have now just about stopped reporting it.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/07/31/fish-kills-hot-water-pacific-northwest/30949551/
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Another-dead-whale-winds-up-on-Pacifica-beach-6420596.php
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/may/08/california-stranded-sea-lions-pacific-ocean
http://www.alaskapublic.org/2015/07/13/haines-sees-a-spike-in-birds-needing-rescue/
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/1/scientists-fear-toxic-algae-bloom-continues-to-spread.html
http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Four+whale+deaths+week+baffle+scientists/11285810/story.html
PS. here’s the latest piece I can find (15th September) from National Geographic…
“It’s been three years since millions of sea stars from Alaska to Canada and down to Baja, Mexico started wasting away into gooey white mounds. And although the destruction wrought by this disease shows no signs of stopping, the pace of the die-off has slowed…”
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/09/150915-sea-star-wasting-disease-epidemic-update-oceans-animals-science/
The above piece talks about sea stars, but fails to mention that west coast fish stocks have also all but been wiped out, and seals, sea lions, whales, etc have also been dying in unprecedented numbers (see the links in my previous post).
RobG: The lack of upwelling is something to do with Fukushima? (Sealions)
“The main contributing factor that we’re looking at right now and talking about with the biologists and climatologists on the Channel Islands [a major sea lion rookery] is the lack of upwelling. We haven’t had the strong north winds that drive the currents that create it, and because it hasn’t materialized – it’s moved the prey further and deeper from the moms that are foraging.”
Makes sense to me. If it doesn’t to you, take a look at the effect of upwelling deep waters on critical nutrient availability.
Ditto the birds, although the Alaskan piece doesn’t seem to be entirely about marine species, and comes to no firm conclusions about the cause…. and very likely at least some whales – though no-one really knows. Overfishing will be a contributory factor as it has been in the North Sea, and everywhere else. I remember seeing dozens of dead puffins one year, and I’m sure this is ongoing, as a result of the sandeel fishery.
The seastars – every species from time to time encounters a mutation of an organism or virus to which they have no natural immunity: think SARS or Ebola. Resistance usually develops in the descendants of the survivors and this appears to be happening. Toxic algal blooms: could account for a lot of the other reports. And a regular natural phenomenon.
Conclusions: upwelling being suppressed by El Nino results in warmer than usual coastal- US waters. Nutrient supply from deep (colder) water is inhibited. All sea life suffers.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.html
Blame climate change, perhaps, this is an exceptionally intense El Nino. But it’s sod-all to do with Fukushima, and the fact you can supply seven recent MSM links on demand rather argues that it is getting reported. I concede that the MSM is remarkably poor on reporting environmental issues, but most MSM personnel have arts degrees, not science ones.
Ba’al, it’s toxic algae blooms, it’s hot water, it’s cold water, it’s more often than not a ‘mystery disease’. It’s everything except Fukushima and manmade radioisotopes, which never gets mentioned. Don’t you think it’s a bit strange that with these unprecedented Pacific wildlife die-offs, the fact that there are three full size commercial nuclear reactors in complete and ongoing meltdown on the coast of Japan, which has been going on for more than four years now, is never mentioned in these news reports?
Likewise, with my previous link to a National Geographic piece about sea stars being wiped out on the west coast: don’t you think it’s a bit strange that they don’t put it into context by mentioning all the other sea creatures that are also being wiped out as well?
The Oregon newspaper you linked to is owned by a corporation called Western Communications, which owns lots of titles in Oregon and California. Go look them up.
And welcome to The Matrix.
(and just be glad you don’t own real estate on the west coast)
Ba’al and Rob, I suspect that this is complex. Think what will have happened. Those reactors contained hundreds of tonnes of nuclear fuel, probably more than the total that would be used in a global nuclear war. The I131 is ferocious and will have affected billions of organisms right across the food chain; almost certainly there will have been a huge die-off, also combined with death caused by chemical toxins backwashed into the ocean following the tsunami. But the I131 decayed into and joined the other somewhat less radioactive Fukushima fallout years ago; together they are now causing a slower rate of death and further disease, and mutation, and will continue to do so for many decades.
The effects of all this will be working their way through the food chain, but life is robust, adaptable and opportunistic, so some species (maybe that toxic algae) will be taking advantage of the changes.
Documenting, quantifying and understanding all this obviously amounts to a major undertaking, but of course it’s unthinkable that cover-ups and perception management would be less than fully pursued, especially by the pro-nuke lobby, who generally aren’t peace-and-nature-loving hippies.
And yes, there’s also global warming, boosting El Nino too. But the Pacific nearly devoid of life? I’m not convinced yet.
I think there’s enough other stuff to worry about, RobG, for which hard data exists. If you can beat hypthesis (a), that the events in the NW Pacific are due to known variations in ocean temperatures, with hypothesis (b),that the events in the NW Pacific are due to Fukushima, based on detailed observation and analysis, fine. Until then it is at best speculation. Don’t think it holds up very well thermodynamically, either. You may care to check whether three melted and well sub-critical reactors, even dumped entire in the sea, can generate temperature changes of the order of degrees, thousands of miles away. Your hypothesis: you do it.
Me, I’ll go with the official version, endorsed, incidentally, by George Monbiot, and wonder if by any chance you work for the coal, oil or renewables industries…
RobG Not discounting your assessment, however don’t you ever suspect the methods of counting the populations of the various fish/animals/birds/flora and fauna. keeping in mind the misanthropists agenda whom would sanction a human cull rather than lose a particular species of rat!
Fact that life is a struggle against death and extinction, we cannot be surprised by the numbers of species that are dying out, although the cause of these deaths somehow invariably end up in implicating the human beings and humanity. Matrix perhaps is far more sinister that you take it to be?
Clark, Ba’al and Fedup, you all make very interesting, and debatable, points.
Please don’t think I’m bowing out when I say that my time zone is an hour ahead of the UK; ie, it’s late where I am and I’m going to bed. I’ll look in again in the morning.
I’ll just leave you with the thought that in 1986, Chernobyl was touted as a major disaster; and it was, and continues to be. However, the No.4 reactor at Chernobyl was one third the size of any of the reactors now in complete and ongoing meltdown at Fukushima, and Chernobyl was a partial meltdown where the fission process stopped and it was contained within ten days (albeit at huge loss of life).
They can’t put a sarcophagus over the three Fukushima reactors because there are complete meltdowns and the fission process is ongoing, and continues to pour into the Pacific Ocean 24/7.
There’s never been a disaster like it in human history.
I know, I’m a cheery soul.
More BS from the Telegraph.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11877539/Jeremy-Corbyns-shame-over-Queen-slur.html
The Counter Culture strikes again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOFm6a8LytU
RobG: “There’s never been a disaster like it in human history.”
Actually, there is a very much more serious and on-going disaster, and it’s going to make all our current concerns look very trivial indeed. Don’t worry about the date on this link, it’s regularly updated:
http://guymcpherson.com/2014/01/climate-change-summary-and-update/
We are comprehensively screwed. If anyone is unaware, we’re currently living in one of the more fast acting extinction events which has beset this planet. Cash in your ISAs, enjoy life while you can – there may be a lot less of it than you thought.
Musta been 5,000 of us there .. Some great speeches, and a wee bit of decent music.
Here be This Blog’s Host –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s-b4jPFOMw
Thanks Brian. Good on you. You should have included a shot of the mobile phone user. Presumably he wasn’t there to listen to the speakers.
Mary
There where Two of them…I Noticed the False Hoodie Right away… Corner of his eyes were always on me..And I was Watching Him.. And he was Not the Telephone Cnt