I shall also be speaking at the Hope Over Fear rally in George Square on Saturday.
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I am surprised no-one has congeratulated Crabbbakuk on the eeligance of his prose, though. Mullet over, chaps.
“Corbyn is evidently getting under the CIA’s skin.”
Is this a fish joke?
Jezbollah is such a no-hoper that the CIA might as well have created him themselves.
BREAK WIND
20/09/2015 5:30pm
I like your posting and links and would like to see more.
I am particularly inspired by the principle of “the permanent sovereignty of peoples and nations over their natural wealth and resources”, which in effect gives the people of every nation the right to tell multinationals, for example, to get lost.
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/3164
Kind regards,
John
Ba’al Zevul
19 Sep, 2015 – 8:57 pm
Say what you like about the SNP, they have been the focus of the independence movement since WW2. The only focus, if you discount the advocates of violence and marginalised fascists in splinter groups – excluded by the SNP. LibLabCon have always fought independence tooth and nail.
The SNP did the wilderness years and the doorstepping, and they have the formal organisation which the recent influx of people disillusioned by the UK political system (many of whom will disappear if Corbyn manages to present a realistic alternative within the Union) simply don’t have.
Most of the experience on the nuts and bolts of obtaining independence is held within the SNP: people who are serious about it have had no other organisation to join. Historically, the SNP has welcomed all shades of reasonable opinion, sometimes with only the desire for independence in common. From tartan Tories to tartan Trots…both epithets have been used by their opponents, incidentally.
Therefore I see it as entirely logical that a public meeting on independence relies on SNP speakers.
But if you think otherwise, this is probably not the place to change anything: contact the organisers with your suggestions. If you are actually pro-independence, that is.
Having a functional quote facility on here would make for much more coherent discussions.
I’ve rarely read such a slippery post. You have made a somewhat ludicrous straw man of my position. Indeed your apparent lack of understanding or knowledge of the broader (i.e. non-SNP) independence movement illustrates my point.
MerkinonParis I’m pleased you found the meeting rewarding. I’d be interested to know how much criticism of the SNP took place.
Mssr. S-D, Corbyn has a script to hand if he wants to keep the City of London pedo regime in conniptions:
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/UniversalHumanRightsInstruments.aspx
The NATO Pact exists to struggle against this binding body of law. In the form of Charta 77 and the Helsinki Final Act, it undermined the Warsaw Pact, and since that time its subversive potential has greatly increased. Read this riot act to the public, and the UK as we know it will cease to exist.
Israel ranked 4th in world as most highly educated country, above UK and US which sandwich Korea in 6th place (2013).
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/top-10-educated-countries-2013-uk-514300
“Good to see that The Guardian is attacking the Daily Mail’s article about the numbers of Syrians fleeing the chaos in the Middle East.”
While it is true that there has been something of a surge in Syrian refugees since the Eurostat figures were published and after continued Islamic State gains, the Mail’s central premise remains true – that the majority of these ‘refugees’ are in fact economic migrants. Now you might say we should invite the world’s poor to settle here but Angela Merkel had to back down pretty quickly on that one.
And as even the Guardian concedes, many of those who are claiming to be Syrian refugees are in fact travelling under false documentation, because is easier to gain asylum if you are a Syrian refugee. [See link]
They are playing Europe for fools. Doesn’t just about every one of them claim to be a “doctor” or “engineer”, some visibly still in their late teens/early twenties? And they are young, fit men of fighting age so why are they turning away from their country and fleeing? Is there nothing in their own land worth fighting for? For I would suggest arming them and turning them around to fight for a worthwhile cause. There are Brits out there, some ex-military but from all backgrounds, fighting with the Kurds, moved by the barbarity of Islamic State. What is is with these people that they can’t put up a fight? Why are they leaving their wives and children at home, where they say it is unsafe, and claiming asylum not in the first safe country they reach but in the wealthy economies of northern Europe?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/08/growing-concern-over-trade-in-fake-and-stolen-syrian-passports
“There was certainly plenty of debate centred round the need for the people who live in Scotland to rid themselves of the corrupt, fascist Westminster establishment.”
They could start by getting rid of the SNP MPs who criticised other MPs for having second jobs, who swore no SNP MP would ever have a second job, then got second jobs.
http://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scottish-mail-on-sunday/20150920/281556584620856/TextView
Robert Crawford
“That o’halibut knows his plaice, he can winkle them out, the welk.”
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Not really a substantive post, Robert, more of a plaiceholder.
The results of the Greek general election are coming through = on an electoral district basis -as I write (actual results, not exit polls).
It appears that, fairly consistently across the electoral districts,
– SYRIZA has a comfortable lead over New Democracy
– the neo-fascist party Chryssi Avgi is in third place (with around 9%, as compared to SYRIZA’s 34% and New Democracy’s 29%)
– the left-wing party Laiki Enotita (a break-away party from SYRIZA, wishing to reject the 3rd auterity package) might just find it difficult to meet the 3% bar for getting members into Parliament.
In my haste to “do a Mary” and bring you this information, I omitted to say that it is by no means clear at this stage whether SYRIZA will be able to govern alone or whether it will again have to seek a coalition partner or partners.
Habbabkuk predicts that whereas the 3rd austerity package will be pursued, it is likely that – as a gesture of goodwill, the other Eurozone members might be inclined, at the appropriate juncture, to put in place some measure of sovereign relief. In ascending order of probablity: a haircut for Member States and the ECB: a haircut for private holders of Greek sovereign debt; an slight easing of the interest rates and an extension (and/or a delay in the start) of the repayment periods
They would, however, be unwise to do so before the forthcoming Spanish and Portuguese general elections.
Another
An easing of interest rates and/or a delay in the repayment schedule would of course, taking into account the time value of money, amount to the same thing as a haircut in the principal owed. But it would probably be more acceptable to the publics of countries like Germany.
“But it would probably be more acceptable to the publics of countries like Germany.”
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That is absolutely right.
For the moment, just a nod and a wink, a whisper in Tsipras’s shell-like ear. And then, after the elections I referred to.
It’s a win-win! 🙂
“But it would probably be more acceptable to the publics of countries like Germany.”
To say nothing about not triggering credit default derivatives that are held all over the place and might trigger all sorts of chaos.
FT: Syriza secures clear victory in Greek general election:
It is now virtually certain that the previous govt coalition of SYRIZA and ANEL (right-wing, nationalist party) will form the next Greek (coalition) govt.
I would bet a few shekels that Mr Meimerakis, the leader of New Democracy, will share the fate of Sir Alec Douglas-Home, UK Prime Minister in 1963-4. Ie, he will be ousted as ND leader before any of us get much older.
Not as certain as the FT, however, that Mr Tsipras’s victory will be “likely to galvanise sympathisers including Spain’s Podemos and Jeremy Corbyn, the hard-left leader of Britain’s Labour party.” (for reasons which it would be otiose to go into here)>
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And with that, over and out on Greece for tonight.
I am shagged out after a long squawk. Hence break in posts.
Craig Murray
20/09/2015 9:32pm
I prescribe a long hot bath and a long deep sleep – works for me.
J
re MI5
I recall that there has been considerable indignation in these columns recently about the number of people (allegedly) working for MI5.
There have been references to 3500 people (although it was not clear whether that figure referred to operatives only or to the total head-count, ie including admin and so on…).
I wonder whether this number is in reality excessive for a country with the population size of the UK or out of proportion when the size of the armed forces and the police (and never mind the size of the public sector in its entirety) are borne in mind. How does it compare, I also wonder, to the size of MI5’s equivalents in other West European countries such as France, Germany and Italy?
“I am shagged out after a long squawk. Hence break in posts.”
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No problem, Craig. It’s Sunday and we seem to be getting along quite well! 🙂
How about a post of the UK education system one of these days?
A rather importsnt issue (cf in this connection Mr Goss’s post, above).
O/T
Exaro says the IPCC is investigating 13 new claims of police cover-up of VIP paedophiles and has had a further 18 claims referred to it which are awaiting evaluation.
The majority stem from allegations made by retired Met officers – presumably not nutters or publicity seekers, then.
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5670/ipcc-launches-13-more-probes-into-paedophile-cover-ups
Kind regards,
John
Good article on the paedo hysteria at Exaronews in the current Private Eye, John, if you are interested. Page 8.
Habbabkuk (scourge of the Original Trolls)
20 Sep, 2015 – 9:41 pm, said:
“re MI5
I recall that there has been considerable indignation in these columns recently about the number of people (allegedly) working for MI5.”
Can you actually explain why a totally unaccountable and shadowy organisation like MI5 exists in this day and age? (Special Branch have always done a far better job)
I mean, what do you people actually do, aside from subverting democracy and the rule of law, and protecting the totally vile and corrupt Establishment?
Repeat: what do you people actually do, apart from wasting huge amounts of tax payer’s money and actively covering up for the most heinous criminals?
When the Westminster child sex abuse stuff does finally see the light of day, MI5 will be the first in the dock.
And, of course, that’s why…
Anon1
20 Sep, 2015 – 10:02 pm, said:
“Good article on the paedo hysteria at Exaronews in the current Private Eye, John, if you are interested. Page 8.”
I think I’ve explained before why certain posters, who some call trolls, never give links on this board (it makes it much easier to discover their IP address, etc).
I’m gratified that someone has cross fertilised this thread with Mi5, I am happy to join in pissing them off on this one as well.
Just a thought go to the Mi5 website to find how many we employ, 4000
3000 terrorist suspects
1000 shit house cleaners
So, let’s have some hyperlinks from Habba, Anon1, et al.
The freedom and democracy software awaits.
Don’t worry Craig we are all playing nicely
I regularly provide links, RobG. One to the Guardian on the last page.
What do you want to do with my IP address anyway? Put it up against a wall and have it shot?