The sentencing of a 15 year old Blackburn boy – 14 at the time he committed his thought crimes – to life imprisonment is grossly inhuman. It is not quite as evil as the decision of the appalling Saudi regime to crucify and behead a child dissident, but it is recognisably a product of the same world view. History books will look back on this era as one of astonishing state cruelty.
As I have posted repeatedly, Islamic terrorism in the UK is virtually non-existent. It has killed precisely one person in the last decade. As a massive security industry employing many, many thousands depends for its very existence on this tiny threat, the work of the government, media and security services in exaggerating the “danger” is unceasing and increasingly desperate. It is based on an endless series of stories of thwarted terrorist plots.
The most famous was the liquid bomb plot which in fact had no bombs and no air tickets, and where the traces of “suspicious chemical” found in baby feeding bottles was Milton baby bottle sterilising solution. Then there was the ricin plot with no ricin, and the Manchester “Easter bomb plot” where the “bomb ingredient” found in a kitchen was an ordinary bag of sugar.
In the event of the absence of any terrorism, the focus has shifted to thinking about terrorism, and the result has been the conviction of a series of fantasists who can be held to “prove” the terrorist threat. Of these the very saddest is the State’s crushing of this young child. He had no bombs, owned no weapons, harmed nobody. He was however the “mastermind” behind the dreaded “Anzac Day Beheading Plot” where jihadists in Australia did… nothing whatsoever. Nobody attacked anybody. Some people texted about it.
Aha! But don’t we realise that, but for the tens of billions we lavish on the security services, somebody in Australia definitely would have got beheaded by someone? It was only the arrest of a schoolboy in Blackburn that prevented beheadings in Australia, just as it was only the execution by drone of two men in a car in Syria that prevented something absolutely awful from happening in the UK, somewhere by someone, somehow. “What they are yet I know not, but they shall be the terrors of the earth.”
I don’t understand how stupid you have to be to buy into this stuff. But then I don’t understand what a vicious callous bastard of a judge you have to be to sentence a child to life imprisonment. He is doubtless a very disturbed child and probably very unpleasant to deal with. But he did not harm anyone; pretending he could have is part of the charade of the security state.
I also do not understand why the child’s beheading fantasies get him locked away for life, yet it is apparently OK for the Saudis to behead and crucify anyone they like, and still be grovelled to by the entire British establishment, up to and including the monarch. So far as can be ascertained, the Saudis behead more people than ISIL and for identical reasons, yet I see no Conservative demands to bomb them. One interesting result of the Russian bombings in Syria is that the media are for the first time openly publishing that the CIA and Saudis are funding and arming some of the most dubious combatant groups in Syria.
The power players in all of this, on all sides, are cruel men. Justice Saunders in a British court has just proven that includes the British establishment.
“And nobody has noticed.” Well, we’ve noticed of course. It’s the poor sheeple who do not realise that the farmer and sheepdog are working as a team. And when the black sheep Cedric suspects they are working together the other sheeple call him a ‘conspiracy theorist’. Bring them on!
Is this true? One wonders at such an intelligent bottom to be so discerning and yet to be sat upon!! Any links for this gem?
While on the subject of beheading, Richardson, of Berridge Green, Edgware managed to nearly decapitate his girlfreeind and gets six years for his handy work
In all probability he will spend three years and be out to get on with his life, whilst poor lass is busy pushing daisies for an eternity.
This girl’s “fantasy” about killing her mother had nothing to do with her killing her mother. Make sense? Welcome to Craig’s blog for anti-establishment conspiracy theories, terrorism apologia and anti-semitic updates.
http://time.com/4035870/danish-teen-isis-mother-murder-lisa-borch/
Anon1
2 Oct, 2015 – 2:06 pm
“As you have posted repeatedly, Islamic terrorism in the UK is virtually non-existent. It has killed precisely one person in the last decade.”
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“Looks like the security and intelligence services are doing a good job then.”
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A man seen sprinkling powder in Trafalgar Square was asked what he was doing. He replied he was using his magic powder to deter elephants.
There are no elephants in trafalger square…
Get the message Anon!?
@John Spencer-Davis
Not all suicide bombers have been Muslims.
Some young Palestinians do it who have seen so many family members murdered that they feel they haven’t got much in this life to lose.
Mr Scorgie
I believe you’ve adapted that little squib from another one which had something to do with a professor cutting off a frog’s legs. Am I right?
Surely the definition of terrorism must involve armed actions against civilians? The Woolwich murder was of a soldier.
Doug the powder was an effective magic anti elephant dust, did you get the name of it, I need it for me leak patch? 🙂
These cretins will hang onto the flimsiest of the excuses.
The link jemand the racist miscreant has forwarded with;
Because the girl had been “watching” get it “watching” I say again ISIS beheading videos!!! The full story of course in the independent
Trouble is the girl is a blonde sort and not of the Muslim kind, hence the summary from some other source. What has this to do with any of this thread is only a mystery. Internet is awash with violent clips, and ISIS have no monopoly of violence.
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O/T Now US is formally asking Russia to stop bombing the Syrian opposition! ie they are good terrorists!! Our sons of bitches!
Jemand
2 Oct, 2015 – 2:40 pm
“ I don’t think the same applies in my part of the world. I’ve called cops “fucking nazis” to their faces and they’ve never charged me.”
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Perhaps they know you’re a fantasist Jemand and they feel sorry for you.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was charged with using ‘weapons of mass destruction’, which refers to pressure cooker bombs that Tsarnaev and his brother allegedly set off during the 2013 Boston marathon (3 people were killed, and Tsarnaev was given the death penalty earlier this year). When such language is employed you know that you are living in Dystopia-Land. Likewise the entire city of Boston was put in lockdown and there were para-military forces on the streets, which included snipers and numerous property searches without a warrant (and you might have noticed the para-military forces present in the aftermath of yesterday’s shooting in Oregon).
What often comes across in arguements, such as the one in this thread, is fear, fear of the Muslim bogeyman that’s been conjured up.
Whereas what you need to fear most are your own governments.
I’ll tell you something: it’s a fucking strange way to fight a war, to willingly allow your enemy to carry out wall-to-wall propaganda on your own patch, to your home market.
Who owns Youtube? Google.
Who certifies beheading videos? Rita Katz’s “Search for International Terrorist Entities” organisation.
Well, former Mossad boss Ephraim Halevy did say after the 2005 London bombings that “profound cultural changes will have to come about“.
Fedup
02/10/2015 6:13pm
Thank you for your encouraging words.
I think about it, because just because I happen to reject the notion that Western powers, including the UK, meddle in world affairs for benevolent reasons, that doesn’t make other powers any the more virtuous. It makes me angry, to contemplate that old men in positions of leadership will extol the virtues of martyrdom to younger and less powerful men and women (and boys and girls). It strikes me that the younger people are being conned. If martyrdom is so wonderful, why don’t the people who have already had their life on this planet go first?
“Lets face it, our dear leaders and great leaders are always sending our boys and our heroes to fight without so much as breaking into a sweat or missing a meal, or suffering the awful constipation that the food packs bring about.”
That’s quite true. On the other hand, I haven’t noticed that our leaders are quick to say that those who choose to obey orders to fight will immediately enter Paradise when they die and that this is a glorious thing. They present the matter as an unpleasant necessity. This does not appear to be the case with Islamic leaders.
Here are some verses from the Holy Qur’an on the matter:
Qur’an (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.”
Qur’an (9:111) – “Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.”
All right, Mr Elderly Imam. You first, then.
No?
Why not?
…You see?
Kind regards,
John
Meanwhile, Lord Jenner is likely to be considered unfit to stand trial…
Although I’m completely and utterly opposed to terrorism of any fashion, I can’t help but think that there could be far more terrorist acts carried out in Britain than have actually occured.
I say that knowing the sheer volume of activity the UK has undertaken in the Middle Eastern, and North African region, over the last 100 years and in some countries cases, even longer.
Looking back at just recent events which involved British forces, in one way or another including Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and now Syria. When you look at our actions in these countries of late, then compare the amount of domestic terrorism you can’t help but be surprised, at how tolerant the Muslim community has been.
Of course I’m not saying that, it might not change in the future.
If we continue to enforce our modern day crusades across the Middle East, there may come a time when, tolerance within the UK, could result in a unprecedented wave of terrorism, I sinerely hope that doesn’t come to fruition.
Catalan secession was not an issue during the Spanish Civil War. Catalan autonomy was. It had been granted by the Soanish Republic. It was opposed by the fascist Franquistas, who eventually ended it after they won the civil war. At which point, they did their best to suppress the Catalan language. ¡Una, Grande y Libre!
But it had already been rendered a nullity by the Communists once they established control over the Spanish Republic and suppressed the other leftist parties with which Orwell sympathized, and which up to then were the basis of the autonomous government of Catalonia.
And I repeat: Orwell showed in his writings (after the Communist suppression) support for Catalonia and those other leftist parties.
He wasn’t faced with the issue of Catalan secession, but, if he had been, it’s easy to imagine where he would have come out.
N_
02/10/2015 6:58pm
I understand that, of course. It is highly distressing that people have suffered to such an extreme extent that they are ready to sacrifice their lives willingly to try to make things better for others. I am in no way attacking the motives of those who do this, because I recognise that they are in an extraordinary situation.
I just cannot get my head around the idea that a seventy year old man could bless a twenty year old boy or girl and send them out to die in such a manner. Surely the automatic human instinct, if one truly believed what one purported to believe, would be to go oneself.
Kind regards,
John
“Meanwhile, Lord Jenner is likely to be considered unfit to stand trial…”
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Cue: Lysias ?
@Fred – “the laws on conspiracy and incitement have existed for a long time both in common and statutory law“.
I don’t think there was a statutory offence of conspiracy in England and Wales before the Criminal Law Act 1977, but I may be wrong. There were certainly common law offences: Cato Street, Angry Brigade, etc.
Even though Janner (BBC still is calling him “Lord Janner”) will probably be found unfit to stand trial, there will apparently still be a trial of the facts. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34422016
My replies to Fedup’s abuse have been deleted by the spiteful moderator. Note how Fedup’s abuse remains along with those of Doug Scorgie. Unfortunately, I cannot return the insults because that would result in the deletion of my comments. I suspect that these selective deletions are intended to drive me off.
It’s a pity to see people being attracted to this blog under the impression of it being a platform for free speech on a wide range of topics not effectively canvassed or probed by the MSM. Instead, this blog is a facade, a front for anti-semitic hate-speech and a bug-light for anti-social weirdos.
What chance does Craig have of continuing to receive invitations to speak at various engagements when there is a growing realisation that his blog enthusiastically embraces anti-semitism? Given the often irrational overreactions to the charge, isn’t this blog’s record of anti-jewish hate-speech even more damaging for the truth of it?
Craig’s many political enemies will use any reason to silence him on speaking about things that embarrass them. I should expect them to relish using Mary’s many posts as longterm recurrent evidence of anti-semitism.
It does seem a particularly severe sentence for even the nastiest boy. However there is no doubt in my mind that those who promote or practice terrorism should be severely punished, and that should include the terrorism practiced today by some of our security services against innocent citizens. These Stasi style Zersetzen programs, that I write about, have under various names been going on for 50 years now and it is time that we had politicians with enough integrity to put a stop to this nonsense.
Domestic Extremist
02/10/2015 7:16pm
But it looks very likely that the judge will rule that a trial of the facts can proceed. Which has (at least) four immense advantages over the previous state of affairs:
– The alleged victims of Lord Janner will be able to testify about the ordeals they say they went through, under oath and for public record;
– Lord Janner’s representatives will have an opportunity to test this evidence through cross-examination;
– All the relevant evidence can be marshalled together in one place by prosecutors, defence and the presiding judges;
– A jury will have an opportunity to reach a public conclusion regarding the credibility of the accusations made against Lord Janner.
I am very glad that the case looks as if it will go ahead in this way.
Kind regards,
John
John your passages sound as though they are a pep talk delivered as a speech by the general before sending his troops into battle.
The simple fact is religion is politics (queen is the head of the church and she appoints archbishops, cant get more political than that). Further, politics is about getting rid of your opposition by hook or crook.
Republicofscotland 2 Oct, 2015 – 7:17 pm has hit the nail on the head, as N_ 2 Oct, 2015 – 7:11 pm, and RobG 2 Oct, 2015 – 7:08 pm. Further, given that suddenly IED (improvised explosive device) came to dominate the Afghan war, Barrel bomb has come to dominate the Syrian war.
The fact that self defence these days is verboten and illegal (resistance to occupation is the right of the occupied)however the Heath Robinson firecrackers became to be the most deadliest of the weapons. Barrel bombs are the current weapons of mass destruction. As RobG has pointed out pressure cookers are also weapons of mass destruction.
Therefore considering the art of black propaganda it should comes as no surprise to find misdirections galore to get the great unwashed ie we the people distracted and focused on tertiary issues; “the cult of death”!
Recollecting the wild animal parable, perhaps should be apt at this time.
Is it too ridiculous to ask the obvious question “What if a violent act resulted from this boy’s encouragement to commit a murder?”. Is there an intelligent reply to that question? Does anybody have any information that indicates that there was no reasonable probability that it could proceed?
Jumping off topic for a moment my apologies. Today I was rather disappointed to read that Jeremy Corbyn, has shelved plans to scrap university tution fees. It was one Corbyn’s major policy statements, that won him huge support amongst students and young people.
I understand the decision was met with derision in Scotland, as a same old Labour, promise but don’t deliver tactic. Mr Corbyn better watch out that he doesn’t single handedly take the blame for U-Turning on campaign promises.
I’m reminded of a comment made by now dead ex-Italian premier, Giulio Andreotti, when he said of the Italian voters, “I’m blamed for every bad thing that’s happened in Italy, since the Punic wars.”
Fedup
02/10/2015 7:46pm
I don’t mean them to sound like that. I feel like I have a responsibility to say what I think, whether it’s popular or not, and whether I am profoundly mistaken or not. If I am, I welcome the opportunity to be corrected.
Kind regards,
John
As a matter of accuracy, Orwell said this of his motivations:
“…. I was making preliminary arrangements to leave the POUM militia and enter some other unit that would ensure my being sent to the Madrid front.
I had told everyone for a long time past that I was going to leave the POUM. As far as my personal preferences went I would like to have joined the Anarchists” (Homage to Catalonia; Ch.VII).
In the same Chapter Orwell makes clear that to be sent to Madrid he would have had to join the International Column, and confesses, “If I had been in better health I should have agreed there and then”.
@Jemand
2 Oct, 2015 – 7:48 pm
Popular culture, and in particular television, is awash with violence and murder.
Should we prosecute writers and producers, etc, for glorifying such horrors?
Craig
‘I don’t understand how stupid you have to be to buy into this stuff.’
I know, it beggars belief.
‘But then I don’t understand what a vicious callous bastard of a judge you have to be to sentence a child to life imprisonment.’
Yup, just like the judge who sentenced some bloke to six months in prison for stealing a bottle of water during the Tottenham riots, and whose forebears sentenced a starving peasant to penal transportation for stealing a rabbit.