I have enormous respect for the work of the Institute for War and Peace Reporting. They work in conflict regions to teach the basic principles of journalism to local journalists, including citizen journalists. They really do get right in to the most difficult situations, and have access to knowledge on the ground that western media organisations often lack. I worked closely with their office in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, where Michael Andersen did a great job.
The fact that IWPR accesses direct first hand knowledge of what really happens during conflicts, almost certainly holds the key to the death of Jackie Sutton. She was killed for something she knew. The official Turkish story that she killed herself in the airport in despair at missing a connecting flight, is risible.
I cannot claim to any idea at present what it was she knew that caused her to be killed. It follows from that I do not know who killed her. But the speed of the Turkish authorities to promote a suicide narrative must in itself raise suspicions.
It seems to me that the Turkish hard state would be most unlikely to kill a British journalist and representative of a US organisation which broadly seems to be promoting soft power US interests in the region) in this way in the middle of a public site in Istanbul without prior authorisation from the CIA. And that would only be given if some very major revelation was to prevented.
Of course, all of this is speculation. But it is necessary to speculate.
Are airports the worst places for going missing without a trace? Every airport is bristling with CCTV systems and in all probability facial recognition, not forgetting the mandatory guards equipped with all manner of instant death constructs.
To go missing would not be possible, to be found unconsciouses and transported to local hospitals is too much of a faf on, and pretty suspicious. Next best option is murder and then the usual reports of suicide. Hence the chap who locked himself in the holdall he had placed in the bath, obviously didn’t want to mess up his tidy apartment! Kelly racked with guilt about talking to Gilligan about bLiar’s war of choice cutting his wrists with a blunt small pen knife. Deepcut barracks personnel found with two bullet holes in their skulls (clearly the dead individual was still able to shoot himself/herself again after death).
Evidently silence in death is the optimum outcome of these suicides.
I’ll just link back to this:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/10/ancient-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-557827
Could have been anyone, and add Abadi to that list. And stress that while Turkey’s application for RU membership has been blocked for decades on the grounds of its human rights record, with particular reference to journalists, Erdogan was in discussion with Merkel -who was indicating that the Turkish application could be helped on its way if Turkey would keep those awful brown people from swarming across the EU borders. Murdering a human rights worker from the EU in a public place on Turkish soil would have been more than a little counterproductive for Turkey. Three Russians found (or ‘found’) the body. She’d previously expressed the fear that Daesh, who had murdered her predecessor, would get her too. Abadi’s facing human rights protests in Baghdad, with undercurrents of Arab Spring, despite his promised reforms, and Sutton was active in Iraq. The PKK have been enthusiastically reheating their war against Turkey. Could have been them.
The Turks may well come clean on this one eventually, but one might guess that the suicide story was cooked up in a hurry because, whoever did it, the implications were too embarrassing. If Turkey didn’t do it – and it had little reason to, or less – it certainly looked like Turkey. As our astute team of Turkophobe commentators has already deduced.
Lysias
19/10/2015 10:30pm
It is curious that this involvement by the UK did not come out when the higher Swedish courts reviewed this matter.
“The Swedish Court of Appeal (confirmed by Sweden’s Supreme Court) made a finding in 2014 that the prosecutor in the case had breached her duty in the Assange case by refusing to progress the case by questioning Assange in the UK for 5 years.”
https://justice4assange.com/Cambridge-Union-Statement-Fact.html
Possibly the prosecutor did not wish to admit any influence from the UK. Or maybe it made no difference anyway.
Kind regards,
John
SAP Suckers:
“Then we must ask, Is Turkey perhaps jibbing at its Syrian-war logistic duties? ”
I seem to remember Turkey got conned by UK[USIS] before. Around 100 years ago.
…EU membership… fat finger.
Agree broadly, Suhayl.
Optimum outcome is silence in death after a death that all sensible observers will recognize as murder. Effects intimidation.
Her murder is just an example apparently of the ongoing covert war of NATO, the European Dialogue, and Israel.
Ba’al
I love Turkey. I’m no Turkophobe at all. But anti-Kurdish propaganda is about as convincing to me as Anglo=Saxons complaining about Celts. The Assyrians were around long before Ghengis Khan arrived from China. Lessons for Scots here.
Fedup
Hi. Turkish Airport toilets are constantly manned by male/female attendees.
Lots of toilets in Turkey have attendants sitting outside the entrance who collect small amounts of money from people who enter.
Is this true of the toilets at Istanbul (Ataturk) Airport?
Should have written Mediterranean Dialogue.
Suhayl
Erdogan is a nutter, not sure why, something to do with Turkey being a hub for East-West relations, the loss of empire, wanting to have influence with the west, doing the USUKIS’s blood-thirsty dirty work of extracting Iraqi oil, and not being able to win an election. Macbeth? with Mr Macbeth getting in before Lady Macbeth?
Lysias
Airport toilets are the only free public toilets in Turkey that I have seen. There is no-one outside collecting money, just frequent cleaning staff presence.
Interesting though that the Russian Times is the only media outlet that I can find so far to have mentioned an alleged past history of “PTSD” in relation to this activist/journalist. Now, that in itself might be interesting, just allowing the idea to be seeded, as it were. As in, was it the Russians? They do tend to specialise in mysterious and sudden deaths of various kinds. But if so, why? We don’t know enough about what she did to be able really to speculate properly – I’m aware that I am just using a sort of scattergun approach.
Huh? A crapshoot post? Why is this more than a personal interest?
Wrt NGOs, yes, I know many do good work and are staffed by dedicated and courageous people of whom I am in awe. So is the World Bank. Indeed this is another aspect of the tragedy.
That ought not to blind us to the larger geo-strategic picture nor to the use, predominantly by the USA, of NGOs (and World Bank) as – by definition -soft political instruments in furtherance of its power. Their dislocation from the (hard political power) of the military and the fact that so many good people work for and with them is what makes them so very effective and penetrative.
Airport toilets are the only free public toilets in Turkey that I have seen.
There’s a particularly shitty one at a cafe which doubles as a dolmuş stop near Elmalı, S of Korkuteli.
No minder – they probably make up the difference with the small portions. Avoid.
Guano
“The great ancient historian Ernst Badian once commented to me how many leading historians had worked in military intelligence.” (from our Transatlantic Friend)
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Aren’t you interested to know which leading historians had worked in military intelligence according to Lysias’s interlocutor, the “great ancient historian Ernst Badian”?
I would find it strange if Lysias’s interlocutor has named no names during that exchange and even stranger if Lysias had failed to ask the great ancient historian.
But perhaps he’s making it up again.
Thanks for all the brain storming.
Should we be asking ourself whether the two are connected, the peace demo bombing and her death, my first thoughts as they are close together and could fit the time span to find out the real culprits. If she had discovered who really bombed the peace demo, or whether this was known by western agencies? then this could have been a plausible paranoid cause and definitely a reason to take her out.
Why paranoid? because the lack of police at the demo was noticed and people started to make inquiries, a frantic situation if you want to stop this coming out, imho.
shot me down with a logical feather please, just trying to tie bits of string together.
Good point, Nevermind. Could well be, who knows? The bombing of the peace demo was most likely to have been done by the Turkish hard state. Anyone with hard evidence of a link would be likely to meet a rapid and sticky end.
I tend to agree, Suhayl, Turkey has as much form in false flagging as the rogue state has shown in the past, dare I say the two have a common criminal history and connections.
We shall not find out tonight, but there are two lines of links,in my thoughts, the Russian link, which if the propaganda keeps gettign shriller, will stick out….
or the cover up of the peace demo massacre by Erdogans men, more people have died since and Ms. Sutton might have struck a hornets nest.
I shall have a close listen as to what my pillow thinks about it all.
Another angle not explored so far, is the possibility of a turf war. In this case, there are more suicides on the way.
Barzani in Erbil is also a frequent killer of journalists. It will be interesting to see if the most recent will last, the head of the Change/Goran party who revealed how many 1000s of barrels Kurdistan sells every day without paying its municipal employees, teachers etc,.
Barzani uses specially long-bearded Islamic parties/salafis to spy on Kurdish citizens, a haram activity for the power-hungry if ever there was one. As always knowledge is power. We are not allowed to reveal anything about them, or we get executed, but they want us to know they know everything about us.
In the Zio fraternity, help is only a phone call away. Islamic State terror is making billions daily for USUKIS. Or as the spook at Birmingham airport said to me: over there with all that’s going on who knows what’s really happening.
Chief culprits are Winston Churchill for acquiring Mosul and Israel from Turkey, Mrs Thatcher for sending money to Saddam Hussain, Cameron for thrashing Libya releasing terror and weapons into Syria.
These shite do countries like we do the washing up. 14 million homeless refugees, half a million dead, reckless theft of fossil fuels, are all in a days work for David Cameron.
or David Evilshite , as he should be called.
Suhayl
“Turkish hard state” i.e. the zionist nuclear core, same as our one and everywhere else in the free world.
Free and unfree world
Nevermind, may your pillow be both beatific and munificent.
Fedup, turf war, yes there’s a thought.
Giyane, you are a good (and brave) egg. I didn’t know that about Barzani allegedly killing journalists. There are no good guys, it seems. Or at least the good guys are all either dead, drowned in a macabre version of ‘Club Med’ or else are cowering under the volcano.
Fedup
Excuse me but I see only two sides in this turf war, us the people and them the zfw’s.
In us I include all normal truth-seeking citizens of the world, and in their side I include all of political Islam, false-flag terror, neo-nazism, world banking etc etc.
It’s our turf. We own upwards to the heavens and downwards to the centre of the earth as caliphs, as God-given earth defenders. We are at war with the zfw usurer/usurpers. When they murder us we rally against them to close the gap in our armour. Jacky Sutton was one link in our collective humanity against their greed. RIP.