I have enormous respect for the work of the Institute for War and Peace Reporting. They work in conflict regions to teach the basic principles of journalism to local journalists, including citizen journalists. They really do get right in to the most difficult situations, and have access to knowledge on the ground that western media organisations often lack. I worked closely with their office in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, where Michael Andersen did a great job.
The fact that IWPR accesses direct first hand knowledge of what really happens during conflicts, almost certainly holds the key to the death of Jackie Sutton. She was killed for something she knew. The official Turkish story that she killed herself in the airport in despair at missing a connecting flight, is risible.
I cannot claim to any idea at present what it was she knew that caused her to be killed. It follows from that I do not know who killed her. But the speed of the Turkish authorities to promote a suicide narrative must in itself raise suspicions.
Trowbridge Did you read the link on my comment @ 7.27am? The Canadian author is not impressed.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/10/iwpr/comment-page-1/#comment-557997
Here in a rather frank interview Jackie Suttons, speaks of being detained as a spy in Eritrea.
She also worked for UNESCO, specifically in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan and Iran, Sutton claimed that Iran kept a very close eye on her.
I must stress reading the article Jackie Sutton accomplished many many good deeds in her life, which has tragically been cut short.
http://hercanberra.com.au/cppeople/jacky-sutton-a-life/
No, I didn’t Mary, but I have now.
Seems quite predictable, but anything is better than Harper, much like Obama in the wake of GW’s vast disaster. Better to have someone with a majority than the incredible bickering minorities of the USA.
And you give me yet another chance to correct myself: It;s Dacia and Dacian Viper 2015.
Thanks.
O/T
This made me laugh out loud, the anger has got the better of the lord pencil
pusherdick, ex civil servant come Lord (it is good to be the king) and he has resigned from Labour party, hence giving the game away;What kind an election is it when real people can vote in it? There should be a law against it!!!!
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Mary thanks for the link on Cameron subcontracting his “anti extremist measures” to be drafted by community trust fund (a zionist supremacist vigilante support outfit masquerading as a charity that is not a charity). AT this rate kensset in zionistan will be drafting the legislation to be harrumphed and amened in HoC.
Your (Turko-centric) history is as suspect as your politics; you’ll find that Herodotus mentions the “Carduchoi”, as does Xenophon who relates how the Ten Thousand “spent seven days in traversing the country of the Carduchians”.
Uncle Google – who is impartial in who he helps – informs me:
The Kingdom of Gordyene emerged from the declining Seleucid Empire and for most of its history, it was a province of the Roman Empire[6] and acknowledged the sovereignty of Rome.[7] From 189 to 90 BC, it enjoyed a period of independence. The people of Gorduene were known to have worshipped the Hurrian sky God Teshub.[8]
However, the Seljuks named it, or something like it, Kurdistan. As I said.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7ly4DgtT3LkC&pg=PA140&lpg=PA140&dq=kurdistan+seljuk&source=bl&ots=8DGLdWzhk4&sig=mlKePHutiJRxuxXZu8kwSbhJ4I8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDgQ6AEwBGoVChMIrs-SiJHRyAIVwjsUCh1HuAcz#v=onepage&q=kurdistan%20seljuk&f=false
Nice to see a Russophile getting what it thinks is ammunition from an American neocon rag, btw. One day you’ll know what impartiality means, eh?
Now, back to Jackie Sutton. Any thoughts from a Russophile? That was a very KGB-style hit.
Do think that Dacia has something to do with how the neocons and NATO are trying to stabilize the Middle Eastern part of their empire through the Mediterranean Dialogue.
Think that Ash Carter, that old Crusader, is trying to be like Trajan, starting around 101 AD -1900 years later. The renewed empire includes Turkey and the Black Sea, but only borders on Damascus.
Sounds like leaving everyone outside it, especially the Kurds and the Russians to the Devil.
Oh, Ba’al, KGB assassinations are much exaggerated.
The Agency and MI6 are much more involved, Just ask former DCI Richard Helms et al., and ‘C’ Director Colin Figures et al.
Excellent piece from Media Lens on the grave US assault on the MSF hospital in Kunduz.
http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2015/804-sick-sophistry-bbc-news-on-the-afghan-hospital-mistakenly-bombed-by-the-united-states.html
You might consider writing to Jon Sopel of the BBC to ask him why he said the bombing was a “mistake”, when MSF clearly is of the opinion that it was fully intentional and the huge preponderance of evidence is that they are right. Particularly since the crew of the plane that carried out the assault apparently knew full well that they were attacking a hospital and queried the legality of this themselves at the time.
The BBC really has excelled itself on this issue.
Kind regards,
John
Well it’s clear that Jackie Sutton was an extremely brave, highly intelligent and decent individual. One that I doubt would be phased by missing her flight and decide to hang herself in, of all places, an airport toilet. Let’s hope that her many influential friends insist on a proper investigation being carried out. That may help lay her to rest but not the reason for her murder … who did this and why?
In the link that JohnB posted above Jackie Sutton says ”Late 2006 a British friend of mine in Kabul was handed over to the Afghan authorities on charges of trying to murder a Muslim. He had uncovered corruption involving UN officials which had resulted in the death of three Afghan children and I knew that they were trying to cover this up. I managed to get him out of prison and out of the country, but in the process the Afghan authorities tried to arrest me and put me in prison in his stead.”
It’s clear that any number of people could have benefited from her death and not just the more obvious culprits. The article also mentions that she kept a diary. Has that been recovered or are we going to be told that she managed to eat it before she hung herself?
Sad that this woman who faced death so bravely on numerous occasions, whilst working on behalf of many others, is being accused of killing herself in a toilet because she’d missed her flight. Reports mention her being extremely agitated about missing her connecting flight (no CCTV to corroborate this either?) but if true I doubt missing the flight would daunt her. Maybe her agitation related to knowing that she was being stalked by someone.
Will we ever get to the bottom of this? ‘Eyes rolling’!
A rather comprehensive history of US involvement in Syria….15 years worth.
http://davidswanson.org/node/4950
“At least as early as 2001, the United States had the Syrian government on a list of governments targeted for overthrow.
In 2003, the United States threw the Middle East into a whole new sort of turmoil with its invasion of Iraq. It created sectarian divisions, and fueled and armed and facilitated the organization of violent groups.
At least as early as 2006, the United States had people in Syria working for the overthrow of the government.
The U.S. response to the Arab Spring, and the U.S.-led overthrow of the Libyan government made matters worse. ISIS was developing long before it burst into the news, its leaders organizing in U.S. prison camps in Iraq. The region was heavily armed with weapons from outside the region, primarily from the United States. Three-quarters of weapons shipped to Middle-Eastern governments were and are from the U.S. The weapons of the U.S. military itself and of its allies, such as Saudi Arabia and Iraq, were intentionally and accidentally supplied to new violent groups.
The Arab Spring in Syria was made violent almost immediately, with support for violence from one side coming from the United States and its Gulf dictatorship allies, and from the other side from Iran and Hezbollah and Russia. The Free Syrian Army became one player in a civil and proxy and regional war, recruiting fighters from around the region of “liberated” disaster states. Al Qaeda became another player, as did the Kurds. The U.S. government, however, remained focused on overthrowing the Syrian government, and took no serious steps to halt support for al Qaeda and other groups from U.S. Gulf allies or Turkey or Jordan (steps such as cutting off the flow of weapons from the United States, imposing sanctions, negotiating a cease-fire or arms embargo).
“You might consider writing to Jon Sopel of the BBC to ask him why he said the bombing was a “mistake””
From my reading of the Medialens exchange, it seems that what Sopel is now saying is that this NATO bombing was a mistake because of the subsequent fallout.
He’d initially given the impression that it was a mistake in the sense that they hadn’t intended bombing the hospital.
Cute, eh.
Herbie
20/10/2015 3:08pm
Yeah. In that sense, the Holocaust was a mistake, too.
Kind regards,
John
Larry David on Bernie @ 2:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfmwGAd1L-o
You read it first here!
The latest are pointing to Ankara supplying the Sarine gas to “Syrian rebels”, that these have used in Syria. Was Jacky Sutton about to blow the lid on this?
Off Topic, but relevant into today’s insane world where the cutting edge in the arms race means everything.
This is the “no miss rifle” it locks on and fires for you even on moving targets.
I wonder if it’s already deployed in Syria.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=449_1445346432
The coverage of Jackie’s apparent murder still makes almost no sense.
That she was driven to suicide because she had no money is pathetic. Even I have a few charge cards to purchase a new ticket, like when I was left high and dry by SAS in Rome, only to take that crazy Austrian’s airline back to Stockholm at a very high price.
And all her complaints about ISIS’s foul treatment of women is only enhanced by her killing.
My suspicion is that she was a messenger to inform former Iraqi President Talibani about Washington’s and London’s going along with Barzani’s plan to break up Kurdistan in an independence vote which will only help ISIS and the Dacian realignment.
Kurds may be many things, but stupid is not one of them! they fine well know that any move in that direction and their Kurdistan is over and done with! Regional powers would not stomach that little change. Further in the very unlikely event of the scenario you have forwarded it would have been far more credible for he to be “dropped” in Erbil or any number of other accidents that could befall a person in that area.
The likely beneficiaries are Turks whom had the motive, the opportunity and the means to get rid of her! The question remains what was it she knew? The Sarine gas (WMD) getting handed over to the ISIS terrorists could be one of such a case.
This may be relevant to the Jackie Sutton story –
https://en.cihan.com.tr/en/erdogan-accuses-media-mogul-dogan-of-robbing-country-1898127.htm
The Doğan News Agency released, from unattributed sources, the news that Sutton had hanged herself using shoelaces and that three Russian tourists had found the body. The Anadolu Agency (State-owned), also without naming a source, omitted to mention these allegations.
Also in the link, note that Erdoğan appears to have lost his marbles completely. Expect a draconian press clampdown.
The likely beneficiaries are Turks whom had the motive, the opportunity and the means to get rid of her!
So did everyone else.
Who said anything about the Kurds being stupid?
I just suggested that she, most unprotected, was dropped by someone supporting Anglo-American plans, and Talibani has a big security contingent.
Not as much as Turks!
turks have been pushing for the EU membership and now have Merkel on side and for the news of the Sarine gas getting handed out to the ISIS terrorists would have set their membership bid back for years to come.
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An independent Kurdistan is the last thing any sane Kurdish leader wants at this time. I used the reference “dropped” as in Gaby Rado dropped and as in Frank Olson!
Who said anything about Barzani being sane, and what if independence is being dropped on him?
Never heard of Gaby Rado, but Frank Olson jumped out of a window because of a drug overdose while the Agency’s Manchurian Candidate experimenters were trying to make him into one.
Wonder what Xi thought of the Westminster men in tights and lacy cravats!
Madame Peng is very elegant.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-34574590
Continuing the Turkish assault on media:
“Crackdown on media increases with new detentions, attacks, censorship, report says”
“Many Turkish media outlets continue to face increasing pressure, with growing numbers of investigations into journalists, detentions and arrests for their critical stance against the government, independent press agency Bianet has found.
“Within the past three months, 101 news sites and 40 Twitter accounts were blocked; 178 news reports were censored; 21 journalists and three media outlets were attacked; 88 journalists faced legal action; and 24 others involved in the media, including nine newspaper delivery men, were arrested, the Bianet report said.
It pointed out that all media groups known for their critical views have been targeted by the government.”
http://www.todayszaman.com/national_crackdown-on-media-increases-with-new-detentions-attacks-censorship-report-says_401962.html
Thankfully, Auntie Angela is now bribing Erdogan with all manner of goodies:
https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/brexit-full-extent-of-turkeys-eu-pound-of-flesh-becomes-clear/
Nothing like being at the crossroads of world affairs. Dangerous, dodgy, but oh so exhilarating.
There’s evidence that Frank Olson did not commit suicide, but was murdered. The evidence is discussed in a book I just read, David Talbot’s The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America’s Secret Government.
Looked up Gaby Rado.
Sounds like a decent journalist but it going a bit too far to compare his falling off a roof while drunk, and covering Saddam’s ouster to Sutton’s apparent murder.
lysias he has not heard of “dropped” neither!
Frank’s son tried to get his father’s murderers (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al) for his troubles, he lost everything and last I read, he was living from the back of a car/truck.
Ba’al Zevu; “However, the Seljuks named it, or something like it, Kurdistan. As I said”
You said they were the first to refer to Kurdistan, but the ancient Greek writers were writing about the land of the Kurds at least a millenia before the Seljuks Turks.
Ba’al Zevu; “what it thinks is ammunition from an American neocon rag”
You really are pretty crap at debating; not only trying to play the man instead of the ball, but pretending that the ball doesn’t even exist ! I think you will find that this report of Turkish betrayal was covered by other alternative media outlets;
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/middle-east/article32206167.html
I sympathise as I know this is not an easy time for you, and that your Russophobia must be running at an all time high now that those “ungrateful” Afghans & Iraqis are cosying up to Russia, both to really get the head choppers beat, and to also break free from Western “support”.
Oooh look.
The crumbling Western empire’s other Nazi friend is continuing his assault on media as well:
“Poroshenko Puts the Squeeze on Media, Threatens TV Channel”
“A Ukrainian television channel has published a statement by its former producer, claiming officials from President Petro Poroshenko’s administration banned the channel from broadcasting footage of a handshake the Ukrainian leader exchanged with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin at a recent meeting.
The handshake took place at the start of a meeting in Paris on Oct. 2, but when television channel 112 Ukraina was preparing a report about the gathering, it received a “barrage of calls” from the presidential administration and security services “about the unacceptability of showing the handshake on the air,” former producer Viktor Zubritsky said on his Facebook page Sunday.”
Holding together the whole nexus of gangsters, terrorists, Nazis, thieves, torturers, killers, paedophiles etc, is not going well.
And they think this is a good time to shit on their own populations with austerity.
If these clowns have a plan, it can only be chaos.
Welcome to Weimar, redux.
Quite happy to talk about Olson being murdered even if more was involved than just doping him so much that he jumped.
Interested in knowing if the Talbot book talked about William King Harvey taking over the MC program so much that he got others to set up James Earl Ray, Sirhan Sirhan, and Arthur Bremer as the leading assassins of the 1960s.
Doubt Talbot said anything about their trying to do the same thing unsuccessfully to LHO.
Got so bad under Nixon that his personal physician , a friend of infamous Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, had to take out LBJ when he caused trouble about Nixon’s involvement in the process on his way back to Texas in Air Force One.
America is simply a sewer when it comes to high politics.