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I have enormous respect for the work of the Institute for War and Peace Reporting. They work in conflict regions to teach the basic principles of journalism to local journalists, including citizen journalists. They really do get right in to the most difficult situations, and have access to knowledge on the ground that western media organisations often lack. I worked closely with their office in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, where Michael Andersen did a great job.

The fact that IWPR accesses direct first hand knowledge of what really happens during conflicts, almost certainly holds the key to the death of Jackie Sutton. She was killed for something she knew. The official Turkish story that she killed herself in the airport in despair at missing a connecting flight, is risible.

I cannot claim to any idea at present what it was she knew that caused her to be killed. It follows from that I do not know who killed her. But the speed of the Turkish authorities to promote a suicide narrative must in itself raise suspicions.

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  • lysias

    One thing that Talbot does say about Harvey is that another CIA man in the Rome station saw him get on a plane to Dallas in November 1963 (in an interview on Democracy Now! he said more specifically “early November”.)

  • Dave Lawton

    @Trowbridge H. Ford

    “Never heard of Gaby Rado, but Frank Olson jumped out of a window because of a drug overdose while the Agency’s Manchurian Candidate experimenters were trying to make him into one.”

    I doubt very much he was given a overdose of LSD.Maybe a under-dose.A under-dose
    would just make him paronoid,this is what happens when you don`t take enough,you need
    about 1000 to 2000 micro-grams to move into the cosmic steady state.

  • ------------·´`·.¸¸.¸¸.··.¸¸Node

    you need about 1000 to 2000 micro-grams to move into the cosmic steady state.

    Dangerously high dosage. Wouldn’t recommend above 500 mics. No more than 150 mics first time.

  • ------------·´`·.¸¸.¸¸.··.¸¸Node

    ^^ Although tolerance is a factor in the short term. I’ve known people take it daily, doubling the dose for the same effect, eventually taking huge amounts.

    But if you ain’t taken it for a few weeks, over 1000 mics is dangerously strong.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    See that Tricky Dick’s personal physician didn’t dose up drowsy LBJ with LSD while returning to the Texas farm on Air Force One.

    Gave him instead dilantin for his angina, though not recommended for traveling by air, especially at high altitudes, and for people who are prone to fall asleep.

    Lady Bird had to settle for this after having to wait for the plane to land so that the media would settle for him having died back on the old ranch.

  • RobG

    Since we’re on the subject of psychopaths (an ever present theme on blogs like this) howabout a trip down memory lane. Here’s Ann Coulter, on Fox News, 19th March 2011, famously telling us all that radiation is good for us (this was one week after Fukushima first blew)…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EMOalmfJD4

    Whatever happened to Ann Coulter?

    Did they nail down her coffin lid so that she couldn’t get out?

    By contrast, the Washington Post was famously reporting this earlier during that first week of the disaster:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/nuclear-crisis-deepens-as-third-reactor-loses-cooling-capacity/2011/03/14/ABk6rQV_story_1.html

    (note what they say about reactor 4 spent fuel pool).

  • Mary

    A traitor departs these shores to join Bain and Co in NY.

    Ex-health secretary Andrew Lansley to advise firms on healthcare reforms
    Tory peer blamed by many for increased privatisation of NHS takes part-time role with Bain & Company ‘leading a discussion on innovation in healthcare’

    Rajeev Syal and Solomon Hughes

    20 October 2015
    Andrew Lansley, the architect of the coalition government’s efforts to privatise parts of the NHS, has taken a job advising corporate clients on healthcare reforms despite David Cameron’s pledge to close the “revolving door” between Whitehall and the private sector.

    The management consultants Bain & Company took on Lord Lansley in August. The newly ennobled Conservative peer also plans to become an active associate of a “strategic communications consultancy” set up by his wife and will advise on health and social care.

    His appointments will raise eyebrows because Lansley, who was health secretary for two years until 2012, is still blamed by many in the health service for the Health and Social Care Act, which critics said increased the privatisation of the NHS.

    /..
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/oct/20/andrew-lansley-advise-firms-healthcare-reforms

    That last sentence should read….’is blamed by many in the health service for the Health and Social Care Act, which critics say has increased the privatisation of the NHS.’

  • Hieroglyph

    That’s interesting about Milne. He’s the new Ali Cambell! Without the war-crimes bit, one hopes. My guess is Milne got sick of The Guardian’s coverage – especially Wintour’s – and left before he was sacked. Personally I’m happy that JC isn’t playing the media game, and isn’t too worried about pissing off the established players, but Milne is a smarty guy, could do a good job. I hope he doesn’t try to change JC though, I really can’t be arsed with the glib soundbite and sharp-suit culture of Nu Lab.

    As to Olson, I always rather assumed he was pumped full of LSD, and told firmly that all his family would be killed unless he either joined MK Ultra, or tested LSD flight out of that handy 10th Floor Window. Or, was just pushed by burly CIA dudes. Who knows? Well some people do, but they aren’t telling.

  • lysias

    Bain & Co.:

    Sir Jack Lyons and “the Guinness Four”[edit]
    Sir Jack Lyons, whom Bain hired to help build its consulting practice in Britain, admitted to receiving more than $3 million in fees from Guinness for “advisory services”. His company, J. Lyons Chamberlayne, was also under investigation for accepting another $480,000 from Guinness linked to improper share buying. Bain fired Lyons in January 1987; he was later charged (along with Ernest Saunders, Gerald Ronson, and Anthony Parnes). The four men became known as “the Guinness Four.” All men were convicted but Lyons was not imprisoned due to ill health. He lost his knighthood and was fined £3,000,000 plus £1,000,000 prosecution costs.[15]

    Due to Roux’s resignation and Lyon’s swift termination, Bain & Co. was never accused of any wrongdoing in the Guinness affair.

  • Dave Lawton

    @Node “But if you ain’t taken it for a few weeks, over 1000 mics is dangerously strong.”

    How do you know it is dangerous? Did you dematerialize ?

  • lysias

    The newly victorious Justin Trudeau and Canadian Liberal Party campaigned on ending first-past-the-post:

    MAKE EVERY VOTE COUNT

    We are committed to ensuring that 2015 will be the last federal
    election conducted under the first-past-the-post voting system.
    As part of a national engagement process, we will ensure that
    electoral reform measures – such as ranked ballots, proportional
    representation, mandatory voting, and online voting – are fully
    and fairly studied and considered. This will be carried out by a
    special all-party parliamentary committee, which will bring
    recommendations to Parliament on the way forward, to allow
    for action before the succeeding federal election. Within 18
    months of forming government, we will bring forward legislation
    to enact electoral reform.

  • lysias

    If Russia is willing and able to interfere with U.S. military communications, why on earth would it agree to leave Israeli communications alone? I am most skeptical of the Thierry Meyssan story.

  • Mary

    On Medialens following the Lansley link.

    Following in Alan Milburn’s footsteps.

    October 20, 2015, in reply to “Lansley receives his reward for privatising the NHS”

    Although I’m not a huge fan of Tariq Ali’s latest book, I do think his comments on Milburn made me chuckle:

    Young Alan was a scruffy, no-good ultra-lefty flirting endlessly with far-left politics, and not just the politics. He worked in a radical bookstore, in downtown Newcastle, called ‘Days of Hope’ after Ken Loach’s wonderful BBC plays. Why trade-union activists who visited the shop dubbed it ‘Haze of Dope’ we will never know. Might the haze have kindled Milburn’s interest in health?

    What we do know is that when he sold out he did so in style, bidding to outdo even Blair and Mandelson in their appreciation of neoliberal politics and big money. This was no easy task, and unsurprisingly he failed. But he didn’t do too badly. After a five-year spell as health secretary he collected his debts with alacrity, becoming a director of Covidien, which describes itself as a ‘$10bn global healthcare products leader’.

    He is also a member of Lloyds Pharmacy’s Healthcare Advisory Panel and sits on the European advisory panel of leading private equity firm Bridgepoint, which specializes in … you guessed it, health care investments. Milburn declared his income from these juicy appointments as over £30,000 a year from Bridgepoint; over £25,000 from Lloyds Pharmacy; nothing listed for Covidien, and over £20,000 as an advisor to Pepsico.

    Excerpted from The Extreme Centre, pp. 46-47. ‘

    Tariq Ali has omitted Milburn’s interest in Alliance and other companies.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1486532/Labour-orders-MP-to-keep-quiet-over-Milburn-scan-deal.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10593106/Poverty-tsar-Alan-Milburn-makes-a-million.html

    Alliance perform MRI scans in my local hospital. Goodness knows how much NHS revenue goes to them.

  • lysias

    Jackie Sutton had suffered from PTSD, so I suppose it’s not absolutely impossible that she killed herself. Daily Mail: The last moments of former BBC journalist before she was found hanged are revealed in CCTV footage from within the Turkish airport where she died:

    In the article, which had been intended to be a video life story for the women’s online magazine, Ms Sutton told how she suffered post-traumatic distress disorder in 1995 after spending five years in Eritrea which she described as a ‘life-changing’ experience.

    She said: ‘I was detained as a spy and deported and many people fled the country.

    ‘I got (a scholarship) to do a PhD at Leeds University, but my mother had been diagnosed with breast cancer, and I think I had PTSD from the detention so I was unable to cope.

    ‘Now there would be counseling, but back then I was given Prozac (anti-depressants) and told to soldier on. I took Prozac for a month, but it had some seriously weird side effects so I stopped.’

    If, on the other hand, she was murdered, I wonder if the CCTV footage shows who did it.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    In 1995-6, I started having a cyclical pattern of seizures which no one could explain, and I too thought I might die, only to suspect that the CIA, at the instigation of Clinton’s head of OMB and Chief of Staff Leon Panetta, was trying to kill me for sinking allegedly Nixon’s Presidency. (See the special issue of Probe magazine in January 1996 for evidence.)

    Fortunately, I fled from Portugal to Sweden where the process petered out.

    In short, a lot of things can change in a generation, and it seems to have occurred in Sutton’s life.

    There was no working CCTV in the woman’s toilet, so I suspect that her killers will never determined, like in so many unwitnessed murders, like those of Willie McRae, Olof Palme, Gareth Williams, Gudrun Loftus, Alexander Litvinenko, etc., ad nauseam.

  • lysias

    To get to the woman’s toilet, one presumably had to walk the halls of the airport. And that’s where the CCTV footage might show something.

  • giyane

    The UK state tortures, militants backed by Western states torture. The US tortures, militants even in their own back yard backed by the US torture. What is the purpose of all this torture? To make the tortured hate those who trust and depend on the state. Cui bono? Organisations that operate outside the state to whom the tortured persons gravitate.

    Torture creates divided personalities, where one side of a personality is attracted to justice and bringing the state to account, while the other side is attracted to outlaws who take advantage of the criminality of the state.

    In the case of Jackie Sutton and looking at her well lived-in face, I would say that she had enough psychological strength to deal with the post traumatic stress disorder induced by her imprisonment and observe her condition sufficiently objectively to win the intellectual battle against the Muslim Extremist Zionists USUKIS and all their vassals and move on victoriously to deal with the other shit that is poured on women in South American pro-communist countries.

    This was not a lady about to kill herself, but one who was so ideologically absorbed by her subject that she had failed to notice that Turkey has, like Saudi Arabia, become a rogue state. She expected to find danger in Iraq, who wouldn’t, and then in South America, who wouldn’t?. But she was not expecting it in Attaturk airport in a secular, holiday Muslim transit hub.

    Erdogan is wrestling for power, not with the Kurdish in Eastern Turkey but with US stooge Fethullah who he wants to extradite. Presidents and Prime Ministers are Knights and Bishops. They get taken. We are pawns. We are dead meat. This cartoon says everything about his fate:

    http://www.voltairenet.org/local/cache-vignettes/L120xH161/arton189047-b7ea2.jpg

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article189047.html

  • ------------·´`·.¸¸.¸¸.··.¸¸Node

    How do you know it is dangerous? Did you dematerialize ?

    I know that it would be dangerous for me. There’s a strong possibility I wouldn’t be able to find my way out again. It’s been touch and go at far lower doses than that.

    Acid is in a class of its own. I’ve seen quite a few people come unstuck cos they thought it was just another party drug. It needs to be treated with respect, huge respect.

    If you’ve taken 2000 mics you’ve been somewhere I’ve never been. Congratulations, but I believe most people would risk their sanity with that dosage.

  • Jives

    Who controls the CCTV at Istanbul airport?

    Cctv can be altered and distorted anyway.

    Cui bono?

    Think.

  • giyane

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article189043.html

    Lysias:

    “If Russia is willing and able to interfere with U.S. military communications, why on earth would it agree to leave Israeli communications alone? I am most skeptical of the Thierry Meyssan story.”

    Was this the story?

    It’s most observant of you to notice that Israel is apparently using Russia military power independently from its alliance with USUK. What we appear to have now is RussiaIS.

    That’s what leads me to conclude that the Syrian war is a concerted USUKISRussiaChina effort to a/ lure the Islamists by sex/money/false ideology ( and some ) to a remote corner of the world, b/destroy them, and c/ leave Syria open to Israeli ( by which understand USUKISRussiaChina ) territorial expansion.

    It’s a lot easier to jam MSM than jam C4i.

    hello..hello..Lysias…can you hear me?

    Fucking google’s jammed CM’s blog..

    The only knowledge of Islam the jihadists have is from the CIA handbook written by agent Zawahiri.

  • Dave Lawton

    @Node”Acid is in a class of its own. I’ve seen quite a few people come unstuck cos they thought it was just another party drug. It needs to be treated with respect, huge respect.”

    @Node I agree,Weight for weight it is equivalent to an atomic bomb.There is a requirement to study certain spiritual practices before embarking on such a journey.
    On the other hand “ It`s Just a Ride” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgzQuE1pR1w

  • Mary

    An interesting e-mail sent to Medialens ref Kids Company, Yentob, Children in Need and the BBC.

    BBC censorship and Children in Need
    Posted by The Editors on October 21, 2015, 8:17 am

    From: DG
    Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 8:09 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: BBC censorship

    All day there has been a BBC Have Your Say on the Kids Company fiasco, and now all 178 comments have vanished. Many were calling for Alan Yentob to be sacked from the BBC, and for once the moderators were letting the comments stand. Has Yentob pulled strings to get the comments removed?

    Interestingly one poster who had apparently tried an FOI request to find out how much money Children in Need had given to Kids Company referred to:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/about/glossary
    Third paragraph down.

    I followed the link and it states:
    “The BBC’s commercial subsidiaries, such as BBC Worldwide Ltd are separate legal entities and as such are not covered by the Freedom of Information Act. Other subsidiaries include BBC Children in Need and the BBC Pension Scheme.”

    If I am reading that correctly it is saying that Children in Need is a commercial business and not a charity.

    So no more money from me then…

    Cheers,

    DG

    ~~~~

    A whiff of Common Purpose about the KC/Yentob fiasco. Remember Sir David Bell’s ‘connections’. He was the CP chair. Now no less a person than a bishop of the CoE is chair of the trustees. CP is well embedded.
    http://www.commonpurpose.org.uk/about/statement-from-chair-of-trustees-bishop-tim-stevens

    The KC founder was an attendee on a CP ‘course’.
    http://www.cpexposed.com/graduate/batmanghelidjh-camila

    Creepy.

  • nevermind

    Thanks for the interview link Herbie and the recollections Hugh A, it was very helpful, she seemed to have been a methodical person, comes over as warm and approachable.
    A diary would shed light on her last minutes if she has taken her own life, she would not have left so sudden without leaving words for her relatives/partner.
    The fact that the bombing of the peace demo went to the heart of the Turkish state, that it has rattled all the old doors open again which were shut at one time or other, its democracy shattering impact must make us think a little more.

    Who told the police that there would be a dangerous incident? why else were they absent?
    Did western agency know of this bombing in advance and how did they got the message?
    Its

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