Dear President Ahtisaari,
I had the pleasure of meeting you on a number of occasions over the years, including when I was British Ambassador to Uzbekistan, and I recall your genuine concern for democracy and human rights in a region where they are sadly neglected.
Like a great many people in Scotland I was shocked that CMI is employing Jim Murphy. Of course, in a democracy there are always losers as well as winners in elections, and both are genuine and valid participants in public life. It is not the fact that CMI employs a politician who has been so recently, comprehensively and humiliatingly rejected by his national electorate that will do any damage to CMI. In a sense I think it does you credit.
What shocks many people here is that Mr Murphy is by any standards a dedicated warmonger. He was a major and important proponent of the invasion of Iraq, and is the strongest of supporters of the massive increase of Britain’s nuclear arsenal, in breach of the Non Proliferation Treaty.
Mr Murphy is a member of the Henry Jackson Society, which as you know is a body which exists to promote United States neo-conservative foreign policy in its most aggressive sense, and openly and actively supports and condones extraordinary rendition and the use of torture by the CIA. It has supported every single military action by the USA since its formation, and defends United States exceptionalism in international law, including US non-membership of the International Criminal Court.
Mr Murphy’s belief set is therefore fundamentally at odds with the stated aims of CMI. Indeed, his employment by you can only lead to the suspicion that CMI’s stated objectives are not its real objectives, and that like Mr Murphy and the Henry Jackson Society your overriding goal in the regions where you operate is to promote the interests of the United States.
As you are funded by charitable donations and by governments, I think some explanation of your employment of Mr Murphy is in order, particularly when you have employed him as a conflict resolution expert in the Caucasus and Central Asia when he has no relevant experience of conflict resolution at all, virtually none of the Caucasus, and absolutely none of Central Asia.
I was the Head of the UK Delegation that negotiated the Sierra Leone Peace Treaty, and certainly under no circumstances would I let Jim Murphy anywhere near that kind of negotiation.
With All Best Wishes,
Amb (rtd.) Craig Murray
” The Paris event clearly demonstrate once more the pressing need to stop interfering in other countries affairs ”
Too late. We already have. The real question is how do we defend ourselves from further outrages.
Kempe
It’s not too late, if we as a nation do something really stupid, we should learn from our mistakes and try something different the next time, that is progress.
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”
From Ben Weed-Smoker
“Mary; I’ve been reading a lot about turmeric. Fresh is best but hard to find and if you want to grow, the rhizome is slow. Cuttings, not seeds. I don’t think the hype on this is overblown. Total cancer killer.”
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I believe it might have been George Orwell who first said that political nutters tend to also hold extremely nutty ideas on matters of health and vitality.
And of course there’s the famous General Jack D Ripper in Dr Strangelove as well, isn’t there….
“RoS As you were saying on passports and the miraculous discovery of same”
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Thanks for that link Mary, the miraculous finding of passports in these events, is aimed at solely apportioning blame.
It is in the eyes of the security services, of whichever country an event unfolds, irrefutable proof, of the attackers nationality, a nationality the security services choose, in order to fit their goals.
“Here is Gilad Atzmon”
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Actually, not.
Here is Mary, again posting (well, actually, cutting-and-pasting) something she’s only quarter-digested from someone she thinks of as one of the good guys.
Take some time off, Mary, you know it makes sense!
Mary wrote:
“If the trolls on here really cared about the victims, they should be seeking the truth as the rest of us are attempting to do.”
Time and time again when there is a terrorist outrage you feverishly start cut and pasting every source you can find seeking to point blame in the direction of western governments without showing the slightest concern for the victims – you really are a hypocritical fraud of the first order.
Solidarity with the French people! United we stand, divided we fall.
Republicofscotland
“Thanks for that link Mary, the miraculous finding of passports in these events, is aimed at solely apportioning blame.
It is in the eyes of the security services, of whichever country an event unfolds, irrefutable proof, of the attackers nationality, a nationality the security services choose, in order to fit their goals.”
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So who do you think the killers were, RoS?
Mary
SOLIDARITY WITH THE FRENCH PEOPLE !
Remember – it’s OUR future and OUR way of life!
Perhaps those seeking to put this all down to our security forces, might just question given the degree of conspiracy this would take why said security forces haven’t closed down their stream of drivel – which would be pretty easy to detect and deal with if they so wished?
“Mary; I’ve been reading a lot about turmeric. Fresh is best but hard to find and if you want to grow, the rhizome is slow. Cuttings, not seeds. I don’t think the hype on this is overblown. TOTAL cancer killer.”
So that explains why no one who eats curry never gets cancer? So much for scientific method.
Is it coincidental that the Paris event occured very close to the G20 summit which will be held in Turkey on 15th and 16th of November, and the main topic of discussion is the response to terrorism.
G20 Turkey 2015. The 2015 G-20 Antalya summit will be the tenth annual meeting of the G-20 heads of government. It will be held in Antalya, Turkey, a southwestern city, which is the most visited destination in Turkey and the tenth in the world, on 15-16 November 2015.
Much encouraged by the relative silence. Let haddakok and anon have a conversation amongst themselves. They really do enjoy one another.
The Usher Hall is now blue, white and red. Edinburgh Castle’s lights will alternate blue, white and red from 7-7.17pm and will then be turned off for an hour.
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12243127_10153823176739416_5027355970953609370_n.jpg?oh=7670b6f748247ad5b9d2d6695ea4c688&oe=56B60AA0
It will be held in Antalya, Turkey, a southwestern city, which is the most visited destination in Turkey and the tenth in the world
I didn’t realise ROS had taken a job with the Turkish Tourist Board. Just a guess but I suspect rather more people visit Istanbul.
Hypocrisy very seldom reaches a higher pitch, than listening to the speech of a mass murderer condeming other murderers.
In this particular instance it’s Barack Obama’s lamentation over the French victims.
Obama in full flow says “This isn’t just an attack on France, but an attack on humanity, and the universal values we share.”
This crocodile tears speech, wouldn’t look out of place coming from Tony Blair, a fellow mass murderer.
Anon1
Are you aware that everything you accuse me of applies equally to you in the opposite direction? If there hasn’t been a single conspiracy theory I didn’t believe, has there been a single one that you did?
And if it is obvious in which direction my open mind will swing, is it not equally obvious which way yours swings?
The irony is, you probably think of your position as more rational. But actually it isn’t. Conspiracies and false flags undoubtedly exist so to deny them all a priori is more irrational than to believe them all.
I recommend you keep an open mind like me.
Resident Dissident
“Perhaps those seeking to put this all down to our security forces, might just question given the degree of conspiracy this would take why said security forces haven’t closed down their stream of drivel – which would be pretty easy to detect and deal with if they so wished?”
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The fact that malcontents, ideological saboteurs and stooges for Britain’s enemies are allowed to post their poisonous drivel on the internet is the best evidence that Britain is not the fascist state claimed by those same malcontents.
It is not enough that these people are known – they should also be made to pay the correct price for seeking to undermine the state and the collectivity.
Events in Paris are terrible and so its difficult to separate thought from feeling. Will there be autopsies on the assassins and is will they any drugs they may have taken?
Resident Dissident
“I didn’t realise ROS had taken a job with the Turkish Tourist Board.”
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There’s no inconsistency there, Res Diss.
After all, he’s also an Englishman living in England (by his own admission!), yet poses on here as the Number One supporter of Scottish independence. 🙂
KOWN
You pose as a man of the middle, a dispassionate observer and objective sifter of the evidence.
But, in reality, you are exactly as described by Anon1.
And also a shyster, as your intervention of the OED definition of “egregious” revealed.
The BBC has wheeled in Huw Edwards to Paris for extra gravitas on the Six O’clock News. Their Ms Katya Adler late of Tel Aviv and now their Europe Editor is elaborating on last night’s events. Ominously she concluded by warning us that ‘there might be another attack just around the corner’.
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The US killed the ISIS leader in Libya today. He was of Iraqi origin.
Libya IS head ‘killed in US air strike’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-34823466
breaking news
There is much lust for blood in the air of our thankfully still beautiful world.
It might have been better had KOWN waited for evidence, which might or might not be discovered before suggesting the horrible possibility which he raised because you can cause a lot of upset and confusion to innocent people. Habba you usually use reason not intimidation. KOWN if you were right in your suspicions then given the horror of events would it not be wise to keep quiet.
‘Habba you usually use reason not intimidation.’
Are you having a laugh Fwl?
Analyse what he and the others in the his grouping say to whom. Then ask yourself why.
“It is not enough that these people are known – they should also be made to pay the correct price for seeking to undermine the state and the collectivity.”
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I think you’ll find the treacherous ones are those who push the war agenda, and those who back it up along with the likes of you and other pathetic propagandists.
Undermine the state, I think you’ll find it’s the state that’s undermining its people, in many forms from removing disabled and sick folks benefits, so much so the UN are investigating it, and the mass deaths surrounding it.
Trying to negate workers rights, which our forefathers fought for, introducing the Stasi styled Snoopers Charter, trying to negate the ECHR for a British one, and we all know how that will pan out.
Retaining WMD’s which can’t realistically speaking ever be used, whilst we spend obscene amounts of
taxpayers cash on them, meanwhile food banks grow almost exponentially.
Not forgetting illegal wars like Iraq.
Mary – the quote from Gilad Atzmon says we don’t even know who the enemy is. I would like to suggest the reason for that is that the enemy lives amongst us: multinational limited liability corporations. They are monsters created by humans and now totally out of control. Despite all the PR, they have one aim and that is to maximize profits – everything else is bullshit. Of course they are run by humans but those humans have to be total psychopaths in order to successfully fulfill the corporations’ unending hunger for profits. As these businesses have acquiered such financial clout that they can bribe, blackmail and buy governments, hence the installation of improbably pathetic characters at the head of governments such as Cameron and Hollande. Life in the West has become completely dependent on them; the internet, our computers and often livelihoods depend on them. I don’t know the answer – maybe just to live an love and not let them grind us down. Eating food from local farms or the garden helps as does making do and/or repairing but even that is becoming harder.
“The BBC has wheeled in Huw Edwards to Paris for extra gravitas on the Six O’clock News. Their Ms Katya Adler late of Tel Aviv and now their Europe Editor is elaborating on last night’s events. Ominously she concluded by warning us that ‘there might be another attack just around the corner’.”
How is this extre sneering showing concern for the victims.
Solidarity with the French People!
I wonder if the troll would like to extend her solidarity to the Lebanese people, the Palestinian people, the Syrian people, the Iraqi people and all victims of bombs and bullets or will her Zionist-racist instincts not allow her to do so?
I keep hearing about ‘solidarity’ in France. If you mean solid agreement on grief and mourning, sobeit. But if you are suggesting there is any substantive agreement on the future course of action it’s just another false hope.
November 14, 2015
What Preceded The Islamic State Attacks In France – Some Links (Updated)
This happened last night: At least 120 dead in Paris attacks, Hollande declares emergency
Gunmen and bombers attacked restaurants, a concert hall and a sports stadium at locations across Paris on Friday, killing at least 120 people in a deadly rampage that a shaken President Francois Hollande called an unprecedented terrorist attack.
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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/11/terror-attacks-in-france-some-related-links.html#more
The Islamic State claims responsibility (English version) for the attack.
But who weaponized and financed the Islamic State or prior organizations in Syria and Iraq from which this terror attack grew?
followed by a list of Monsieur Hollande’s activities in the ME over recent years
KLOWN
Without any evidence you decided from the outset this was a ‘false-flag’ and you expect me to give your theories equal validity to what every authority, expert and journalist is saying as events unfold, that Islamic State carried out this atrocity. That is not maintaining an open mind, fella. Your theories are not worthy of equal consideration. That would be to give undue credence to a nutter on the Internet. I might as well entertain the idea that the little green men came down from the moon and did it because otherwise I wouldn’t be “Keeping an open mind”.
Now kindly fuck off and come back when you have something a little more concrete than your ‘gut feeling’ that the French government just slaughtered hundreds of its own people.
“I am shocked. Shocked, to learn that there would be blowback”
-Hollande-