BBC Bias 763


I am involved quite extensively in the making of what I believe to be a valuable independent documentary. It is based on George Ponsonby’s excellent book London Calling, and has the working title How the BBC Stole the Referendum. We have already done a few hours filming of my contribution.

The film is being directed by Alan Knight. It still requires some finance, having raised over £12,000 so far from crowd sourcing. If any readers of this blog can make a contribution, it would be gratefully received. I vouch for the good faith and commitment of the production team, though I am not in any sense connected with the management or finances.

I should like to ask for a couple of other bits of help as well. Can anybody find the BBC footage of the appalling Gavin Esler puff piece for the “Vote No Borders” PR campaign. The BBC broadcast it repeatedly on every TV news programme on 2 May 2014, but seem to have managed to erase all trace of it from the internet. It might also be useful if somebody could take a little video footage of the company nameplate of Acanchi Ltd at 24 Chiswell Street, London, EC2Y 4YX. Footage of the nameplate, the street sign and a little of the surroundings, just to visually establish it is in London. The technical quality of that little bit of video is not terrifically important.

UPDATE

See Gill R’s comment below. The company may be at Unit 311 Business Design Centre, 52 Upper Street, London N1 0QH. If anyone can easily get to either address and see what they can film it would still be helpful.


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  • Tony M

    Publick Occurrences Both Foreign and Domestick

    The BBC was always the government’s mouthpiece, it commandeered the airwaves, with some pressure put on ‘upstanding’ Reith, before, during and forever after the General Strike of 1926, the former private company it was became a state broadcast propaganda corporation, financed by a tax or license extracted by public extortion. To the 1984-85 miner’s strike, when they consistently mis-reported events. And on.

    They are out and out Court stenographers. And there’s no point saying both ‘sides’ complain so they must be getting it about right, when one of the ‘sides’, on any issue, but especially notably on a certain one, which the BBC get 180 degrees wrong every time without fail twisting facts inside out, is completely astroturf as far as the eye can see, confected in order to make exactly the argument: if both ‘sides’ complain they must be getting it about right …

    In addition to all the examples mentioned above, Syria, Ukraine, Turkey, South-Stream etc. didn’t persons unknown drop a bomb, during the affair in Georgia miles from the conflict, but close to an existing, fortunately deeply buried gas pipeline.

    Lunatic policies pursued, brinkmanship, false pride, chaos the desired result.

    Orwell’s Big Brother Corporation, from an insider who worked there, was no allegory.

  • Ishmael

    Tony M

    Yet, are they fooling anyone but themselves? Confusion and faith maybe, can’t change truth can it.

  • John Goss

    Ocassionally the BBC gets something right. We did not hear much from the BBC while he was being tortured but here Victoria Derbyshire interviews somebody who ought to be very bitter. My personal thanks to all who supported his campaign. Perhaps all the trolls who had faith in Guantanamo (I remember a long match with Habbabkuk until he finally conceded that he did not support torture) would like to apologise to this good man – Shaker Aamer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekgd9cEouFM

  • lysias

    And Orwell was writing about the BBC during World War Two, which is usually supposed to have been its golden age.

  • Ishmael

    Did you believe him john.

    “would like to apologise to this good man – Shaker Aamer.”

    I don’t know (as i’v never met either and don’t want to now) witch would be more likely to apologise for something, him or Craig.

    Maybe it was just a joke you added on.

  • glenn_uk

    Ishmael: “Chance for another dig at Mary Glenn, How noble of you. Maybe the reasons are exactly the reasons she gave[…]

    Plus some of the same from Macky.

    When are you two going to take the blinkers off? Why do you believe that certain posters are entirely above criticism? I didn’t mention Mary either – both of you assumed that. Now why might that have been?

    Personally, I feel constructive criticism of those with whom you broadly agree is very helpful. Clearly, you two have no understanding of this, because either someone is 100% correct, wonderful good and clever, or they are 100% wrong, stupid bad and evil.

    In this binary view (the George Dubbya Bush view of the world, if you will), you make the same tragic mistake as is played throughout humanity on a daily basis.

  • Ishmael

    I think that’s a load of shit Glenn. i’v better things to do than unpack it.

    But I think my post’s in this very thread prove you wrong. With your strange theory. Maybe that’s you.

  • glenn_uk

    Ishmael (again): “I don’t know that Craig’s ever written about Israel and Palestine issues.

    You don’t, huh? In the tens of thousands of posts you’ve drivelled out here, you’re saying you’ve never noticed a single post by the host on the subject. Fascinating. Before demonstrating a certain lack of attention on your part, shall we say, you might have typed the words “Israel Palestine” in the search box at the top, and got results like these:

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/04/israeli-criminals-no-longer-welcome/

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/07/more-dead-children-in-palestine/

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/04/the-apartheid-israel-poison-is-out/

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/11/palestine-and-the-assange-test/

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/11/palestine-can-now-join-the-international-criminal-court/

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/12/palestine/

    And so on. The list is extensive. Are you just lazy with a poor memory, Ishmael?

  • Herbie

    “And Orwell was writing about the BBC during World War Two, which is usually supposed to have been its golden age.”

    I’d have thought its Golden Age was during the 70s/80s.

    It wasn’t much different then to what we now call alternative media.

  • Habbabkuk (combat the dingbats)

    Mr Goss

    “Perhaps all the trolls who had faith in Guantanamo (I remember a long match with Habbabkuk until he finally conceded that he did not support torture) would like to apologise to this good man – Shaker Aamer.”
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    Err…sorry, but I’m puzzled. Why should I apologise – did I put him into Guantanamo?

    As for my “conceding finally” : as I recall it, you chose, on the basis of no evidence, to keep repeating that I supported torture in general. There was as little need to deny that as there would be for you to deny that you habitutally expose yourself to young women in the park were I to accuse you of that.

    ++++++++++++++++

    But anyway, Mr Goss, I suggest you cleave to the new, saner and cleaner line of discourse on here and avoid the insults. You could make a start by dropping the word “troll”, it’s gone out of fashion here.

  • lysias

    Well, we already knew from Seymour Hersh’s articles that it wasn’t Assad’s government that used the sarin, but now we get confirmation from a Turkish MP: RT: EXCLUSIVE: Sarin materials brought via Turkey & mixed in Syrian ISIS camps – Turkish MP to RT:

    Islamic State terrorists in Syria received all necessary materials to produce deadly sarin gas via Turkey, Turkish MP Eren Erdem has told RT, insisting there are grounds to believe a cover up has taken place.

    The main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) member, Erdem, brought up the issue for public discussion in parliament last week, citing evidence from an abruptly-closed criminal case. He accused Ankara of failing to investigate Turkish supply routes used to provide terrorists with toxic sarin gas ingredients.

    “There is data in this indictment. Chemical weapon materials are being brought to Turkey and being put together in Syria in camps of ISIS which was known as Iraqi Al Qaeda during that time,” Erdem told RT.

    We already knew about the case from Turkish media at the time the sarin was discovered in Adana, Turkey: Today’s Zaman: Report: Police foil al-Nusra bomb attack planned for Adana (May 20, 2013).

    The RT story is now being reported all over the place in the Turkish media, as a google search on “erdem sarin” will reveal. Here, for example, is Çağdaş Ses: Eren Erdem: IŞİD sarin gazını Türkiye’den aldı [Eren Erdem: ISIS got sarin gas from Turkey].

  • Ishmael

    lol, 7 ok, i’m ‘proved’ wrong. Even though I qualified my remark.

    Gland I got you doing something useful Glenn.

    🙂

  • Habbabkuk (combat the dingbats)

    Glenn-UK

    To be fair to poor Ishmael, I thonk he meant to say that Craig has never specifically devoted an entire thread to Israel/Palestine. I don’t know if that’s accurate. But it is certainly accurate to point out that he slips Israel/Palestine into threads dealing with other questions. Not often very pertinently, but that’s just my opinion of course.

  • Squonk

    Fred,

    That will be a neat trick for the USA to start exporting LNG in any significant quantity seeing as how the US is still a net gas importer (pipeline from Canada) as of the most recent EIA annual data for 2014. Although production is up in 2015, like oil, that production rise is going into reverse now with production 0.5% lower than the same week last year.

    Annual http://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_sum_lsum_dcu_nus_a.htm

    Latest weekly snapshot http://www.eia.gov/naturalgas/weekly/

    Looking ahead at the EIA’s projections for 2016 dry natural gas production is estimated to average 76.26 billion cubic feet per day but consumption is estimated to average 76.66 bcf/day. So if and when production ever exceeds US consumption then maybe it can become an exporter in any quantity.

    Shale oil and gas is not as magical as the US media would have you think. There’s a lot of smoke and mirrors.

  • John Goss

    People who are still excusing what happened to Shaker Aamer should hear what the torturers at Bagram, Kandahar and Guantanamo did to him even though the interview is an hour and a half long. I would like to meet him, a very intelligent man, much more intelligent than some who come on this blog with their bigotry. Ahmed Errachadi, a former detainee who wrote about his experiences in “The General” reported how because of his knowledge Shaker was called “The Professor.”

    This is how happy a man is to be home in England, a very touching account reproduced courtesy of Reprieve, whose director, Clive Stafford Smith did so much to secure his relief.

    https://www.facebook.com/107485499287/photos/a.397846964287.176672.107485499287/10153801411159288/?type=3&theater

  • Habbabkuk (combat the dingbats)

    Fedup

    “The lines of bollocks “authored” by the resident cyber settlers post their triumph; running Mary off (so these think).”
    _________________

    You should not call the contributions of your fellow-Eminences “bollocks” – it’s not very polite of you and out of tune with the generally more restrained tone of contributions in the last couple of days.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Hence although there is no debate of any sorts that is ongoing and the place is as empty as a church on a Friday night.”
    ___________________

    More than a slight exaggeration, surely? Lots of people posting as far as I can see and anyway you musn’t equate “debate” with the sort of slanging matches to which many of the posts from a certain Person used to give rise.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Just sayin’, Fedup.

  • John Goss

    It was not an insult Habbabkuk and I agree that you have cleaned up your act since those days, which might make you feel sympathy for a man abused by ours and the US secret services.

  • Republicofscotland

    “Republic of Scotland… where does one begin?”

    _____________

    Yes indeed Suhayl where does one begin, well we could begin with the implication that somehow a Fenian is someone you bring over to irk someone else, it kind of reminds me of the 50’and 60’s when British society portayed a Jamaican next door neighbour as irksome.

    Linking to a Fenian site, doesn’t quite let you off the hook does it now.

  • Habbabkuk (combat the dingbats)

    With great respect, I would not necessarily take what appears in the first link offered at 15h42 as gospel. The state standing behind RT has its own agenda in the region and that report neatly fits that agenda.

  • Habbabkuk (combat the dingbats)

    “..and I agree that you have cleaned up your act since those days”

    ______________________

    You’re still at it, eh… :).

    Poor show.

  • Republicofscotland

    “That’s certainly ringing true as far as I’m concerned. Meanwhile, over on another thread, RoS is busy trying to portray all Muslims as terrorists and murderers, even as he castigates you here for some apparent slur against Muslims. Very odd, not to say confused, behaviour.”

    _________________

    I see Glenn UK has given up defending his position over on the other thread and reverted to outright lying, why am I not surprised.

    It would appear to some commentors that discussing Muslim crimes against other Muslims and other faiths, in their own countries is taboo.

    Cry’s of Islamophobia have come thick and fast especially from the triumvirate of Macky, Fedup and Glenn UK, when I mention the human rights records of Iran, Saudi Arabia, or Bahrain, it would most definitely appear that lateral thinking has taken a back seat and been replaced by extreme PC thinking.

  • lysias

    Look at what Trump is saying about Syria: Politico: Trump: Hillary’s killed ‘hundreds of thousands’:

    Donald Trump seemingly laid fault for the rise of ISIL and the Syrian civil war directly at the feet of Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton on Sunday, claiming the former secretary of state “killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity.”

    Trump, appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” shocked host Chris Wallace with his comments.

    “She is the one that caused all this problem with her stupid policies,” he said. “You look at what she did with Libya, what she did with Syria. Look at Egypt, what happened with Egypt, a total mess. They don’t back — we don’t back any of our allies. You look, she was truly, if not ‘the,’ one of the worst secretary of states in the history of the country. She talks about me being dangerous. She’s killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity.”</blockquote<

  • Ishmael

    In a country where Israel does not really exist in the media, this is a tiny amount of coverage. If the pages where all devoted to such a conflict, so what?

    It ‘means’ nothing. Yet you lend yourself to these vicious and brutal attacks. A constant bombardment to who? People you don’t really know…

    You presume to psychoanalyse them, justify yourself, and yes I do have my own basic assessments. And if I find someone to be, whatever, I largely try to ignore them. This is why it bugs me what I said about Craig, I shouldn’t have bout it up again, but circumstance not really changing…Anyway.

    No, your the ones who asses people in order to attack them. To try. And you’ll use anything it seems. And there is no remorse, no let up. So who is judging more here?

    If I think someone is messed up, I may try and prevent damage to others, but to them personally I try to leave them to it. In fact the only reason Graig got some focus from me….etc.

  • Tony M

    Anyone estimate the likely size of the exclusion zone in all directions – I’d guess the size of Wales – around giant floating tankers of LPG, birds flying past probably drop out the sky. Imagine (if enough of them existed, but they don’t and won’t ever) convoys of them across the Atlantic. One spark is enough.

  • Herbie

    “I would not necessarily take what appears in the first link offered at 15h42 as gospel. The state standing behind RT has its own agenda in the region and that report neatly fits that agenda.”

    The report quotes Turkish MP Eren Erdem as its primary source. His party is the main secular opposition.

    Let’s ignore his claims because it’s in RT, says habby.

    Idiot!

  • Republicofscotland

    China’s human right record is appalling, (cue the triumvirate to cry bigotry or racism), in this instance plain clothed police violently manhandled reporters. The reporters were trying to access information on Pu Zhiqiang, and the vague trumped up state charges against him.

    Sky News has filmed police in China forcibly clearing the streets of witnesses as one of the country’s most prominent human rights lawyers goes on trial in Beijing.

    Friends and supporters of Pu Zhiqiang attempted to hold up placards defending him, and chanted “Pu Zhiqiang is innocent”, before being set upon by security forces in plain clothes.

    We saw one woman being dragged away by the throat.

    Journalists were pushed and aggressively manhandled. At one point I was shoved – deliberately – in the face. Another reporter was thrown to the ground.

  • lysias

    That Erdem made the charges in the Turkish Parliament last week is being reported independently of RT.

    ABNA: Turkish MP Accuses Ankara of Supplying Sarin Gas to ISIS Terrorists:

    The main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) member, Eren Erdem, brought up the issue for public discussion in parliament last week. He accused Ankara of failing to investigate Turkish supply routes used to provide terrorists with toxic sarin gas ingredients.

    And the Turkish media reported on Erdem’s speech in the Meclis (Parliament) already last week, before the RT article: Cumhuriyet: Eren Erdem’den Meclis’te AKP’lileri kızdıran konuşma [Eren Erden’s speech in the Meclis [Parliament] attacking the leaders of the AKP] (Dec. 10, 2015).

  • Squonk

    Just on a technical point, LNG is Liquefied Natural Gas (methane) as in “mains gas” at home. LPG is Liquefied Petroleum Gas (propane/butane) as in Calor gas and LPG car etc.

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