Yesterday’s revelation that Prince Charles sees Cabinet Office memoranda denied to most ministers did not spark as much public outrage as might be expected. Part of that is because of the view that, by and large, Charles is a fairly decent old stick with some surprisingly progressive opinions.
The problem is, of course, that with a monarchy you have no choice what you get. The defence deployed yesterday across all media was that this is a longstanding practice, in place for many decades. What they did not tell you is that it was instituted at the insistence of the Prince of Wales who was the future Edward VIII, and at the very least sympathetic to fascism. Strange how the media omitted that bit, don’t you think?
I am given to understand that William has very much the private political opinions you would expect from an extremely rich and not very bright person educated at St Andrews University, that strange foreign neo-con enclave perched on the Neuk of Fife. The only university with not one but two professors on the board of the Henry Jackson Society.
We are about to go into WW3.
People need to understand this.
Forget the trolls/vermin.
You have to think about whether you want to live or die.
‘Charles is a fairly decent old stick’? Methinks not; ‘fairly decent old sticks’ don’t connive at their ex’s murder.
I recommend ‘How They Murdered Princess Diana: The Shocking Truth’ by John Morgan; he has written 8 odd books on Princess Diana, and though I have only read the one above, he has the whole shooting match in there.
As already reported in some of the MSM, an SAS guy (I don’t remember if he was still in the military, or ex) said that the SAS were involved in the assassination; Morgan adds to that info.
More info about John Morgan is available at: John Morgan Biography – https://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/johnmorgan
The last I heard he was close to death.
I don’t know how many of the commenters and readers of this bog have read either or both of Craig’s books, but if you haven’t you’re missing out on a good and very informative experience. I’ve read the both; in one he tells how a lady of his acquaintance was ‘on a promise’.
When the time was virtually upon them, Craig was getting something out of the freezer, and his shoulder slipped out of it’s socket, and he was in serious pain. The woman was very piqued, and later made a public spectacle of herself, by denouncing Craig and his ‘reputation’ as phony, and purported to believe he was faking the pain to get out of the tryst.
Well, in the early hours of Wednesday, I fell over and dislocated my shoulder. I can certainly agree with Craig about the pain level: it’s excruciating. Getting your ‘leg over’ is the last thing one would think about!
Compare & contrast this with the Assange situation;
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/millionaire-businessman-cleared-raping-teenager-7018414
No DNA evidence iro Assange results in EAW, yet DNA evidence here is written-off and case dismissed !!
Whether you think St A is good or not, you must see that your proposal would remove for ever the chances of any ex-state-school people to benefit from the superior appeal the place has for impressionable employers. And, indeed deprive them of valuable early exposure to the rich arseholes who will very likely be positioned above them in the promotion ladder.
It would be much more sensible to ban that refuge of brain-dead businessmen, golf, and finance the building of engineering laboratories on the Royal and Ancient course. The quality of local employment would improve – golf only requires poorly paid ground maintenance and catering staff – the innovations flowing from the facility would benefit the nation, and, relevantly, engineering does not encourage upper-class twats doing History of Art* in order to claim that they have a degree. Indeed, without wishing to seem stereotypical, it only attracts a few twats, and even fewer of them are upper-class.
*Or Media Studies
I am available for consultation on reforming education policy. For a fee.
They probably let Charlie boy read cabinet minutes or whatever in the hope that it will restrain his loonier impulses to assert what is totally at odds with government policy.
Anyhow, what’s it matter what the PoW reads? He has no executive authority.
The trouble with the monarchy is that it is geriatric. In an age of extended life, we are faced by the probability of an endless succession of senile monarchs.
Obviously what’s required is a new succession action that establishes a retirement age of, say, 67 years, which would just cut Charles out of the line altogether and hand things over to William, a pleasant fellow who sensibly keeps his opinions to himself.
@Ba’al Zevul
🙂
Ba’al – hope those who have reason to fear get to feel your hot breath and swish of your tail soon. x
Macky : @Node, you certainly know how to push somebody’s button !
I’ve been out all night and just returned. I guess the comment(s) you refer to must have been deleted. So sorry I missed them. Since the subject of my post will still be on-topic tomorrow, I’ll update the content and post it again, unless Israel stops being a genocidal racist fascist state in the meantime.
yesindyref2
To an extent I am winding you up. But there is a generally acknowledged problem with St Andrews refusal to take seriously the Scottish government’s targets on university access for people from less privileged backgrounds. It really is a problem that almost 50% of St Andrews Scottish students are from private schools, compared to 6% of the general population.
I don’t really believe all state funding should be cut. But in view of St Andrews utter failure to acknowledge there is a problem – and you seem typical of that attitude – I think some sanction is needed.
@Craig
Yes, there’s a problem. St Andrews (and Edinburgh and Aberdeen) have been told they should take more disadvantaged students. All universities in Scotland have “made progress”, but St Andrews and others think that discriminates against the middle classes, even though they have made progress themselves. So you can’t win whatever you do.
The long-term solution is perhaps already in progress with the CfE which is definitely giving many students more confidence in themselves compared to kids from even 10 years earlier, but that will take time. Another thing that’s neccessary is to tackle poverty. Well, that’s generally true anyway.
Problem with private schools is they do concentrate and have facilities to push educational success, which is why their success rate for uni entrance is higher. Shrug. But you get similar from even state schools, where parents can either afford, or do without, to pay for their kids to get tutoring.
There’s a lot of work to do, and yes, not recognising there’s a problem would be an obstacle. At the same time, universities do rely on extra funds via research funding and overseas students, and that needs them to have recognised excellences, so they risk losing that if they drop entrance requirements – though there’s no evidence “disadvantaged” students do any worse, if given the appropriate help to catch up.
Solutions won’t happen overnight, but continued pressure is neccessary.
Evil men.
Evil if ever there was.
and your proud of it, of yourself…
Who are you to have authority over me and my life. Never. NEVER.
Take whatever gang you can muster. It’s still a gang. “government’ ‘legitimacy’ you know where to put that don’t you.
You support torture, STILL…
It is a curious fact that, at least on the male side, successive generations of British royals struggle to find the wattage sufficient for even the dimmest illuminations. The subject would make a worthy study for the nature/nurture brigade.
Trump appears to be doing well but can anyone demystify this business of 1287 delegates required to get nominated business,in February 2016? Please.
St Andrew’s, Oxbridge etc deliberately and illegally discriminate against State educated students. The intake should be 80 State/ 20 Private. To reflect society. Oxbridge is funded 22 to 1 of all other Universities. Gets massively more funding, for the Privileged few, who seem to learn nothing at all.
Labour/Unionists were means-testing loans which prevented many working class pupils, with straight ‘A’ from going to Uni. Not enough financial support. That has been sorted. Many students from poorer backgrounds, do not go from school to Uni. They go to Uni as mature students 20%. Mature students do really well. Not everyone wants to go to Uni straight from school. They want to experience the world first. Many 16/17 year olds are taking up good apprenticeships or going to college HNC/HND getting better skilled jobs. 10%+ of people have additional needs, not enough is done to adapt the workplace for their skills. Teacher training should include (10%) modules on additional needs training to help to develop skills.
Peeling potatoes is like your blog with random peelings flying off everywhere. You need a bin to catch the stuff. Put the kitchen waste bin (the bigger the better) next to the sink, take the lid off the bin so you have a large empty space and peel over the bin, (or join the army as per Uzbek’s excellent response).
PS on main topic: clearly royalty are a quirky feature of our constitutional life, but HM has done a good job. Many a priest seeks to step beyond the ritual of his job, his ego enters and the ritual loses its magic. The Queen seems good at her ritual and at keeping her ego out. The family provide the nation with merriment. Overseas others are astonished at how our tabloid press treat our royals and wonder why their own national press is so tame. Therefore our Royals act as sort of scapegoats allowing us to think that we have a very open and free media (which we have to some extent – we seem to be self censoring out of a sense of keeping on the right side of things for our own best interests) but at the same time they are a sort of ferment for others abroad encouraging them to lobby for more open media in their countries. The main issue about the Royal family is really just that the PM and Secretaries of State have the Royal Prerogative and this appears to in effect neuter Parliament with the effect that the US has a better system of checks and balances. Anyway I know my lowly place and hopefully its not peeling potatoes so I will say no more.
Frank White: From now on, nothing goes down unless I’m involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it’s my turn.
Who cares? They’re only humouring the paid help. England has been a republic with an executive president since 1688.
Georgi Dimitrov said
“Fascism is an open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, the most chauvinistic, the most imperialistic elements of the financial capital… Fascism is neither the government beyond classes nor the government of the petty bourgeois or the lumpen-proletariat over the financial capital. Fascism is the government of the financial capital itself. It is an organized massacre of the working class and the revolutionary slice of peasantry and intelligentsia. Fascism in its foreign policy is the most brutal kind of chauvinism, which cultivates zoological hatred against other peoples.”
but really, fascism is the state and the state is fascism.
Craig
Sorry to say so but this is not one of your better posts. I shall forgive you by thinking it was in the way of a space-filler, designed to put an end to the bickering which had unfortunately started again on the previous one thanks to the usual trouble-makers.
And now to substance.
1/. “Yesterday’s revelation that Prince Charles sees Cabinet Office memoranda denied to most ministers did not spark as much public outrage as might be expected. Part of that is because of the view that, by and large, Charles is a fairly decent old stick with some surprisingly progressive opinions.”
And mainly because most rational people would accept that it is normal – and sensible – that the next Head of State should be up to speed on govt matters. All the more so because given the advanced age of the Queen Prince Charles is likely to become Head of State sooner rather than later.
BTW, the Prince of Wales (later Edward VII) was also given increasing access to state papers as his mother grew older.
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” The defence deployed yesterday across all media was that this is a longstanding practice, in place for many decades. What they did not tell you is that it was instituted at the insistence of the Prince of Wales who was the future Edward VIII, and at the very least sympathetic to fascism. Strange how the media omitted that bit, don’t you think?”
Firstly, see above. BTW, we are talking bout state papers – the “Cabinet Office2 which so exercises you did not exist at the time of Edward VII.
Secondly: why do you find it strange that the media “omitted” to mention that the future Edward VIII first asked for access to state (NOT Cabinet Office) papers? He was not the first successor Head of State to have been given access to them. Nor is a newspaper story supposed to be a lesson in constitutional history, especially when the historical facts “omitted” seem pointless and irrelevant. However, if you do think that they are relevant, please tell us why given that Edward VIII had next to no influence in state policy in the 1930s.
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“I am given to understand that William has very much the private political opinions you would expect from an extremely rich and not very bright person educated at St Andrews University, that strange foreign neo-con enclave perched on the Neuk of Fife.”
So what? Even te Monarch is allowed his or her political opinions. The key word is PRIVATE. I do not see the negative connection you seem to be making between the Head of State’s private political opinions (whatever they are) and the fact he is allowed access to state papers before accession. Feel free to explain.
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“The only university with not one but two professors on the board of the Henry Jackson Society.”
For Heaven’s sake, Craig. How many professors are there at Aberdeen University? And, as a matter of interest, did either of them teach Prince William in the subjects he read when up?
Just a little more on Charlie:
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2015/12/17/prince-charles-hates-isis-let-him-prove-it/
And Andrew’s even worse.
“Enoch Powell even suggested that the pederast Mountbatten was offed because of the nuclear policy of the US.”
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Sound like the sort of conspiracy theory Lysias would run with.
Further comment unnecessary, I think…
Paul Barbara
“I recommend ‘How They Murdered Princess Diana: The Shocking Truth’ by John Morgan; he has written 8 odd books on Princess Diana, and though I have only read the one above”
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Around eight books on the subject, eh?
That says it all, doesn’t it.
Craig and especially YesIndyRef2 have made some interesting points about the number of public school educated children attending Oxbridge (and perhaps others).
It’d be interesting to discuss this question further in this blog but as thigs stand the chances of being able to do so rationally and without diversion from the Old Trolls and Eminences and their hangers-on are slim.
Perhaps a special thread started by Craig and some really ruthless moderation?
I have a number of ideas as well.
1) For potato peelings find a MODern scullery maid.
2) If you do not buy the papers you may miss out in for example the excellent Times’ Obituaries, which today include diplomat and ringmaster if the Egyptian state circus Hugh Leach, wickie Barrie Meyer and Licio Gelli. The latter ends”All us becoming a reality little by little, piece by piece.”
3) There are some fans if Russia here, but I do not know if Mr Abromivuch is amongst the regular readers. If he is then you played a blunder not filing a defence on the constructive dismissal claim, there has always been a synergy between Chelsea and S Wales so how about monastic orders for the interim manager? Mr Monk?
Maybe the keywords here are oil and the energy sector.
As with University of Edinburgh, the university is heavily tied to the industry one way or the other.
http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/careers/students/careerdecisions/careersa-z/energy/
Energy
Ed Milliband said “We think the environmental industries in Britain can generate about an extra 400,000 jobs by 2015” source:BBC website. Currently, however, the majority of jobs still are in fossil fuels.
“Fossil Fuels/Oil and Gas – While there may be various alternative energy supplies available for some tasks such as electricity, there is currently no viable substitute for oil, making it the single most-used source of energy, ten times the energy produced from all other sources. There is a massive global industry involved in oil and gas exploration, extraction and production. Global players with opportunities for graduates include oil companies such as BP, Shell and ExxonMobil. Oilfield service companies, such as Schlumberger and Halliburton provide specialist services to oil companies to aid the exploration and extraction of oil but do not directly extract oil and gas themselves. In the UK much of the oil/gas industry is based around Aberdeen.”
Ex CEO of Halliburton is our old friend Dick Cheney who is currently involved with the advisory board of Genie oil along with that rascal Rupert Murdoch and friendly banker Lord Jacob Rothschild, the company is currently involed in oil exploration on Golan heights.
Another finacier Rothschild, Nat along former Goldman Sachs banker Julian Metherell are areinvolved with a different company Genel oil.
Genel Energy plc is an oil company with a registered office in Jersey and field office in Turkey. It has its exploration and production operations in Iraqi Kurdistan with plans to expand its activities into other Middle East and North African countries.
Genel Energy was created in 2011 as a result of the reverse acquisition of Turkish Genel Enerji by Tony Hayward led investment company Vallares.
Tony Howard was educated at the University of Edinburgh.
University of Edinburgh continues to have links to the British Royal Family, having had the Duke of Edinburgh as its Chancellor from 1953 to 2010 and Princess Anne since 2011.
Associated people include 3 Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom, 2 currently-sitting UK Supreme Court Justices. wiki
Present Prime minister of the UK recently pushed for so called air strikes on so called terrorist organisation ISIS whose supplies of oil to mafiaosi had been hit by Russia. Who recently lost a plane via Turkey airstrike.
Just my opinion and maybe this all coincidental?
However back to St Andrews University;
If you need help in energy field they give this advice:
“Networking is particularly important and can help you succeed with your applications. If you have been in contact with someone working for the organisation then you have extra information for your application. Use social media sites such as LinkedIn, Twitter and Facebook (many organisations have their own page) to connect with organisations. Recent St Andrews graduates have gone on to work for RWE npower, SSE, BP, Baker Hughes, P Exploration & Operating Company Ltd, Docherty Consulting Ltd, Maersk Qatar. Alumni can make extremely useful contacts, giving you an “edge” with your applications and interviews.”
http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/careers/students/careerdecisions/careersa-z/energy/
And if you want experience:
Many large companies offer summer internships for students in the penultimate year of their university course. Students on postgraduate courses are also often eligible to apply for these. Internships typically last eight to thirteen weeks Applications open early in the autumn and closing dates are usually between December and March.
Oil and Gas – Examples of companies that offer summer internships include:
BP, Mott MacDonald, Shell, ExxonMobil and Schlumberger,Chevron
Internships specific to Earth Science students
Wood Group – will recruit interns from all years and disciplines across a wide range of business areas.
PwC Oil and Gas Academy – in 2014 PwC ran a 3 day programme for undergraduates interested in Oil and Gas business careers.
Skills required: Ability to think commercially.
However, some folk may beginning to think uncommercially.
Over 30 students have begun an occupation of the University of Edinburgh’s finance department in protest at Tuesday’s decision by the university court not to divest from fossil fuels.
However, insisting that the university remained committed to a change of investment policy, senior vice principal Professor Charlie Jeffery said: “Our commitment is to engage before divestment, but the expectation is that we will bring about change by engagement.”
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/may/13/students-protest-against-edinburgh-universitys-rejection-of-divestment
At the end of the day the following quote still appears to hold :
New York Evening Mail, 23 Jan. 1918.
“Consider: the university professor. What is his function?
Simply to pass on to fresh generations of numskulls a body of so-called knowledge that is fragmentary, unimportant, and, in large part, untrue. His whole professional activity is circumscribed by the prejudices, vanities and avarices of his university trustees, i.e., a committee of soap-boilers, nail manufacturers, bank-directors and politicians. The moment he offends these vermin he is undone. He cannot so much as think aloud without running a risk of having them fan his pantaloons.
True to the form of any settler, the settlements are being expanded!
First Mary goes, then it is the turn of the blog owner whose ownership is in dispute and before long he is told/ordered what to write about!
Then of course comes the zionist only threads, and zionists only replies, and soon after the only “Jewish blog” on the Internet is busy defending itself from being pushed into sea or the sewers or whatever, in the face of overwhelming hatred from all other blogs!!!
“Trump appears to be doing well but can anyone demystify this business of 1287 delegates required to get nominated business,in February 2016? Please.”
How The Republican Establishment Can Keep Donald Trump From Getting The Nomination
By Michael Snyder, on December 13th, 2015
It is going to be much more difficult for Donald Trump to win the Republican nomination than most people think. In order to win the nomination, a candidate must secure at least 1,237 of the 2,472 delegates that are up for grabs. But not all of them will be won during the state-by-state series of caucuses and primaries that will take place during the first half of 2016. Of the total of 2,472 Republican delegates, 437 of them are unpledged delegates – and 168 of those are members of the Republican National Committee. And unless you have been hiding under a rock somewhere, you already know that the Republican National Committee is not a fan of Donald Trump. In order to win the Republican nomination without any of the unpledged delegates, Trump would need to win 60.78 percent of the delegates that are up for grabs during the caucuses and primaries. And considering that his poll support is hovering around 30 percent right now, that is a very tall order.
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/how-the-republican-establishment-can-keep-donald-trump-from-getting-the-nomination
Trump is a diversion. A side show. He has shaken up the Establihment.
The wealthy from elsewhere now have to pay £9000+ for the privilege. Not enough to pay the full cost but a contribution.
Fedup (10h50)
That was an egregiously silly post. The subject I suggested (not ordered) may not interest you – perhaps because even you might find it difficult to tie some of your oet obsessions into it – but it might interest others. Are you trying to tell Craig that he should NOT post on it?
Fool!
jkick – I think it would be safe to guess that any university with a geology/earth sciences department not currently boasting good connections with the energy (and mining) industry, is in full panic mode and reallocating the space the department occupies. Who else, apart from academia, employs geologists?