I wish a speedy recovery, both physically and mentally, to the people stabbed at Leytonstone tube station. It must have been horrifying.
The following comments are in part predicated on a presumption that the media reports of the incident are broadly true. This comes with a serious health warning. At this stage after another tube station incident, we were universally assured that various official “sources” and “eye-witnesses” had affirmed that Jean Charles leapt the barriers and ran through the tunnels, wearing a bulky jacket with wires sticking out. All of those turned out to be absolute lies deliberately spread by the Metropolitan Police and the Home Office.
But assuming this time the account of his shouting about Syria is not lies, what we can see from video is that a single man in a very silly hat, armed with a very small knife indeed, can carry out a vicious terrorist attack with apparently no need for planning at all. Not even planning enough to get a less tiny knife from his kitchen.
Because, sadly terrorism is easy. As I stated recently, if I were crazed enough to want to kill somebody tomorrow, and did not care how I did it, who I killed or if I died myself, I could kill a few people without too much effort or planning. That is why the continual propaganda about “seven foiled ISIS terrorist plots” or “4,000 active Islamic terrorists in the UK” is quite simply untrue. If all those terrorists existed, they would not be so entirely unproductive. What the authorities do catch continually are fantasists, often children, boasting and “plotting” online about being terrorists. That is quite a different thing. It is worth noting that nobody has been charged over any of these seven foiled ISIS plots. Strange that, isn’t it?
As for the man in the silly hat, I fear he is mentally unstable. That is no comfort to his victims. The truth is, of course, that it is always the little people who get hurt. None of the 1% who foment, promote and profit from war have ever set foot in Leytonstone Tube Station. But their agenda is forwarded today. By its continual acts of violence and repression, the neo-con state eventually goads a mentally unstable person into a nasty, vicious and pointless act. They then use that act to justify more wars and repression.
For the security and armaments industry it is a very profitable cycle.
Pretty pathetic attempt at covering up, Lysias, when the DM is reporting what Farook and Malik\ were repeatedly doing on the days just before the massacre.
“I don’t see how he (Assad) was ‘exploiting ethnic and secular tensions’. Each faction or group, even before the postively democratising reforms Assad Jr. made, was represented in the executive, with for example Sunni and Shia and minorities’ representatives were given major cabinet/ministerial posts. I didn’t see any other candidates competing with Queen Lizzie in an election for our head of state.”
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From Wiki.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashar_al-Assad
The Assad regime has described itself as secular, while experts have contended that the regime exploits ethnic and sectarian tensions in the country to remain in power. The regime’s sectarian base relying upon the Alawite minority has been noted.
He was confirmed by the Syrian electorate twice in 2000 and 2007 in referenda that did not include any opposing candidate.
So Tony M. What are basing your above assumptions on.
Mary
“Phil I am not jumping to any conclusions. I am putting up reports with links.”
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Again, that’s rather flabby, isn’t it, even evasive and therefore dishonest.
The point is surely this: the reports with links that you repost all go, curiously enough, in the same direction, ie to support your non-conclusions. You do not provide reports with links which go in an oppositie direction.
One could therefore be forgiven for thinking that you have in fact reached conclusions but are unwilling, for some strange reason, to put them forward as yours.
Some would, I suppose, just dismiss most of your stuff as innuendo.
Assad’s regime is not just supported by the Alawites. The Syrian Christians (10% of the population), who feel protected by Assad, very much fear an Islamist victory in Syria. With very good reason, considering what happened to the Christians in Iraq after Saddam’s regime was toppled. And I understand other religious minorities like the Druze also feel protected.
Ishmael to Nevermind
“Feel free to apologize if you can.”
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It is not in Nebelmind’s nature to apologise. It’ probably a missing gene or something 🙂
Nothing stops the Resident Inquisitor from putting up his own links making the points that he wants made.
Except that, strangely, he never posts any links. Any more than he ever says anything about his mysterious past.
“It’s all Saudi in the end.”
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That’s a most interesting comment which illustrates, pithily, a great truth: conspiracy theories and fantasies, although they usually appear complicated in their detail, all repose, in the last analysis, on a simple belief like the one offered by our Transatlantic Friend.
Other good examples are: It’s all Israel in the end, or It’s all the J..ws in the end.
It’s a little bit like how children think, isn’t it.
Fuck you both, Habby and the arsehole he’s just quoting and ‘looking into’. I apologise if there is something to apologise for.
primitive Arseholes who can’t quote as to which comments they are answering to, should fucking learn to be proper arseholes like Habby, deep dark and stinking like a HELL HOLE.
moderate that if you wish, I could not care one iota
alshsharij
Republicofscotland
“Assad who brutally cracked down on the Arab Spring uprisings ( though they were orchestrated by the West as usual) only came to power in Syria due to his brothers death in a car crash.”
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For completeness, we should add “and due to his father having been the boss man for some decades previously”.
Perhaps it’s case of “Le roi est mort, le Dauphin est mort, vive le Roi!”
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(Cue Lysias for a spell-check, merci beaucoup!
Looks like it’s not just the resident Islamophobe who objects to criticism of Saudi Arabia. Only this time it’s, strangely, associated by the new critic with anti-Semitism.
Rich, that.
The establishment really is protective of Saudi, isn’t it?
He doesn’t know how to cut and paste a URL yet Lysias. He will need further training.
We have just passed the 4th anniversary of his arrival on this blog. Just here to divert and distract. There is significance to the targeting. The question on why he is tolerated here has never been answered though.
And war and killing is so funny, hence the Reaper reference. Sick and sick making.
“Probably lots of people in the U.S. spend a lot of time at shooting ranges.”
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A rather *tentative* comment from someone who is supposed to be an American and lives in the US?
Mary – He brings light comic relief, for me at least…….
Not all of us spend time at shooting ranges.
I don’t find war funny.
Does Cameron’s old-Etonian cabal not comprise a very narrow sectarian base, I’d say so. The Alawite 10% were not over-represented in the Syrian government prior to this trouble Syria has with its neighbours from hell shitting on their doorstep, and their powerful and despicable friends, in what has become a fight for our liberty too, the non-Alawite elements have taken an even bigger role. But if we take a UK population of 60 million, Cameron’s say 10 in number Old School chums, his closest most powerful kitchen cabinet is an even narrower base. Friends and family only. I’m afraid you’ve been caught RoS, regurgitating neo-con propaganda, or are at least ill-informed and spectacularly inconsistent and hypocritical.
And wriggling.
“Except that, strangely, he never posts any links. Any more than he ever says anything about his mysterious past.”
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That’s an attempt to divert, of course, but I shall respond because it’s a good illustration of loose (and, underlyingly, authoritarian) thinking.
If I have never said anything about my past, it is illogical to characterise that past as mysterious.
A better example of a mysterious past might be – for example – someone who claims to have studied at Oxford but then refuses to answer the rather innocent question “at which college?”.
Or, to take another example, someone who claims service in the navy but then coyly mentions service in the US (army) garrison in West-Berlin.
In reality, my past is not mysterious; it is mysterious only to our Transatlantic Friend.
And that, while evidently important to Our Friend himself, hardly seems a good enough reason to call it “mysterious” in itself. Unknown might be a better word.
Lysias
“I don’t find war funny.”
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Few people do, I imagine.
I also imagine most people – including yourself – don’t like the idea of killing people either.
Tell us – for how long were you a US Navy officer?
I have never been a member of the U.S. Army. I have never said I was ever a member of the U.S. Army.
A posting of mine a while ago in which I said I once had dinner in Admiral Canaris’s house in Berlin/Dahlem, which was then the house of the U.S. Air Force Commandant in Berlin, seems to have escaped the Resident Inquisitor’s notice. That commandant had earlier been a hero of the Berlin Airlift.
Why does the Resident Inquisitor suppose that the U.S. garrison in Berlin was all Army?
Those who have military experience have the most reason to hate war.
Not so much rich as richly indicative of the mindset of ConspiraLoons.
Cursory re-reading will make it clear, I think:
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“It’s all Saudi in the end.”
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That’s a most interesting comment which illustrates, pithily, a great truth: conspiracy theories and fantasies, although they usually appear complicated in their detail, all repose, in the last analysis, on a simple belief like the one offered by our Transatlantic Friend.
Other good examples are: It’s all Israel in the end, or It’s all the J..ws in the end.
It’s a little bit like how children think, isn’t it.
What I should have said was: The establishment and its lickspittles really are protective of Saudi, aren’t they?
“Why does the Resident Inquisitor suppose that the U.S. garrison in Berlin was all Army?”
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So the writer of the above is saying that the US garrison in West-Berlin included a US Navy presence?
Yes Lysias. That accounts for so many ex servicemen (and women) in America and here with PTSD, problems with alcohol dependence, family breakdown and ultimately homelessness.
It would do the troll good, if he lived in this country which he doesn’t, to go along to help at CRISIS. It originated as Crisis following the film release of Loach’s film, Cathy come Home and became Crisis at Christmas in a disused church in Lambeth back in the 70s. It is now a major charity helping the homeless who are increasing in number. We did a few Christmases in Lambeth.
http://www.crisis.org.uk/pages/what-we-do.html
Hasbarakuk
No he seems to be saying Air Force. But there were always Marine detachments there, too. Are the dots getting close enough?
Glenn
Sad to see you have joined forces with the conspiratards and other loony left on this blog, Glenn.
Britain is in no way like Nazi Germany under Hitler. It’s interesting that you choose to lay into me rather than David Halpin following that comment.
Perhaps my comments are a little too close to the bone. Maybe you are more loony than I thought, Glenn?
Bevin
“But there were always Marine detachments there, too.”
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Not too sure about that, Bevin.
But anyway the Marine Corps is not the US Navy and Our Friend claims to have been in the US Navy.
And claims to have been part of the US garrison in West-Berlin.
And has gone to ground, it seems, in the fa
“Does Cameron’s old-Etonian cabal not comprise a very narrow sectarian base, I’d say so. The Alawite 10% were not over-represented in the Syrian government prior to this trouble Syria has with its neighbours from hell shitting on their doorstep, and their powerful and despicable friends, in what has become a fight for our liberty too, the non-Alawite elements have taken an even bigger role. But if we take a UK population of 60 million, Cameron’s say 10 in number Old School chums, his closest most powerful kitchen cabinet is an even narrower base. Friends and family only. I’m afraid you’ve been caught RoS, regurgitating neo-con propaganda, or are at least ill-informed and spectacularly inconsistent”
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Tony M.
Yip just as I thought assumptions, and wafflings about Cameron and his cabinet, and kitchen but no real evidence.
It’s a tried and trusted strategy, using religion or social injustice to divide a society, which allows a small sect to rule, you’re not going to tell me that Assad is the only Middle East leader to exploit that particular angle.
Unless of course you want to tell us about Cameron’s livingroom or toilet, as you’ve already mentioned his kitchen.
Bevin
“But there were always Marine detachments there, too.”
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Not too sure about that, Bevin.
But anyway the Marine Corps is not the US Navy and Our Friend claims to have been in the US Navy.
And claims to have been part of the US garrison in West-Berlin.
And has gone to ground, it seems, in the face of what I thought was a rather simple question, viz.
“So the writer of the above {ie, Lysias}is saying that the US garrison in West-Berlin included a US Navy presence?”
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Anyway, I’ve exposed the Mysterious One sufficiently for one evening. More next time he pipes up too much for his own good.