Hilary Benn is very serious about his power grab and has been laying the ground for it very carefully. On 18 November BICOM – the British Israeli Communications and Research Centre – published this:
Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn told a Labour Friends of Israel (LFI) lunch yesterday that relations with Israel must be based on cooperation and rejected attempts to isolate the country.
Addressing senior party figures in Westminster, Benn praised Israel for its “progressive spirit, vibrant democracy, strong welfare state, thriving free press and independent judiciary.” He also called Israel “an economic giant, a high-tech centre, second only to the United States. A land of innovation and entrepreneurship, venture capital and graduates, private and public enterprise.”
Consequently, said Benn, “Our future relations must be built on cooperation and engagement, not isolation of Israel. We must take on those who seek to delegitimise the state of Israel or question its right to exist.”
It is worth reading the next article BICOM published. Brigadier General Michael Herzog, head of strategy for the Israeli defence Force, sets out a strategy for Israeli interests in Syria which dovetails precisely with what Benn and Cameron were pushing in the Commons. Note that Herzog says an overall diplomatic solution is not realistic and rather de facto partitioning of Syria suits Israel’s interests. Therefore there should be no waiting for diplomatic progress before western military action.
With his abandonment of any pretended concern for the slow and agonising genocide of the Palestinians, and his strident support for Trident, Benn is embracing the Israeli establishment and the British military and political establishment. In return, the Tories roared his speech to the rafters, while the media, and especially the Genie Energy linked media, are boosting him to the Labour leadership.
The United Kingdom has, temporarily, an opposition leadership which is not controlled, Zionist, neo-con and in the pocket of the arms industry. Benn has positioned himself very carefully to offer himself as the vehicle for the entire establishment to move to correct this aberration.
Glenn_uk
3 Dec, 2015 – 3:15 pm
J. Thomson: Thanks for the info, but here’s the link :
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/could-hilary-benn-saviour-labour-6945915
Currently running at 90% for NO.
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And still at that percentage. Wherever it ends up, I doubt Benn is a serious challenger in the Bigger Picture
Btw, does anybody know what would be the correct process to remove Corbyn, if it were to come to that at some point?
He was elected by the power of Labour members — that is his real base, and therefore I doubt somehow that yesterday’s vote would have eroded that.
Mick 6.04pm
” Mary I have read this blog for four years and the amount of posts you have made defaming Israel and connecting people in power to Israel is innumerable ”
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She has indeed Mick . Your job is to engage ‘ the little grey cells ‘ and ask yourself why so many ”people in power ” have those connections to Israel a tiny State in the middle east ? It’s called connecting the dots and employing some critical analysis . That’s your first task .
PS / Why do you think so many ” powerful people ” keep on having these proven connections to Israel ?
Forgot to say what is it about the Balfour declaration that you, or Hillary don’t understand?
“His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”
‘view which favor the establishment’ it says there, nothing about ‘take over’ or ‘dealing a crushing defeat to all Arabs who live in Palestine’
‘nothing shall be done to prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non Jewish communities in Palestine’ it says. Now look at the civil rights that exist for Palestinians and compare them to their zionist rulers who are not even mentioned, the detention and killing of children and young people, the Apartheid meted out even to jewish believers who don’t agree with Bibi’s rules or are from Sudan or Ethiopia.
It is the arch conflict and the UN made a big mistake, what you say to that?
Mick Say I criticize Israel and I agree. You cannot defend the indefensible.
Same old. Tuesday, 01 December 2015
IOP headlines for 27 November 2015:
Israeli Army positions open fire on Gaza – 7 wounded
2-week-old baby tear-gassed by Israeli Occupation troops
Home contents set on fire during Israeli Army raid – ambulance fired on
Night peace disruption and/or home invasion in 2 refugee camps and 5 towns and villages
13 attacks (2 Israeli ceasefire violations)
21 raids including home invasions
2 dead – 55 injured – 7 abducted (aged 13 to 16)
Economic sabotage
13 taken prisoner – 13 detained – 109 restrictions of movement
http://palestine.org.nz/phrc/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2991&Itemid=44
and
IOP Report {No.1} December 2015 headlines:
2 Israelis found guilty of Palestinian murder
Defend Palestinian children – help to expose Israel’s violation
Juliet Stevenson introduces MAP’s Children of Palestine photo stories
Al Hadidiya: the persecution of a community
EU official calls for International Protection of Palestinians
Occupation settlers threaten to burn to death Palestinian family
Israeli war crimes: Palestinians bring new evidence before ICC
‘Help save my home from Israeli settlers’
http://palestine.org.nz/phrc/index.php
@Mick, yes Skinner appaulded Benn’s speech, doesn’t mean he agreed with it; he was, just like John McDonnell has also stated, impressed with the oratory/performance. You should also remember that Skinner was personally very close to Tony Benn, so perhaps he was being reminded of Tony Benn, a man he loved;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuh8vk3-x60
Anhow I enjoyed this wry twit from Skinner today;
“Those of us who admired and respected Tony Benn were listening for a cock crow after his son denied him 3 times.”
I’m sure Mary has noticed, but whenever an Israeli goes and murders a Palestinian (in an _unofficial_ capacity for a change), the BBC invariably says that the crime was in retaliation for something a Palestinian did. They don’t mention what that the Palestinian might have been provoked by. They never suggest provocation might have existed for any Palestinian action.
Perhaps Benn the Lessor heard some rallies in the US, where they were shouting “Hillary for President!” and got a rush of blood to his head.
During a tv interview Michael Fallon secretary of state for war, was asked do the pilots know their targets yet.
War hawk Fallon replied yes I provided them with the targets to hit.
That really fills me with confidence, knowing that a war hawk has provided the targets for RAF fighter jets, everyone in Syria now has a bullseye on their backs…quick duck down!
Monteverdi,
I think we could debate at length the so called ‘proven connections’ to Israel, especially when Mary, and others, like to conflate Israel / Zionism and Judaism. Although I would certainly support those who read this blog engaging the ‘little grey cells’, especially when Israel is discussed.
Mary,
With regards to defending the indefensible you do and others here do a rather good job – you fixate on Israel and ignore other wrongdoing as a result.
Macky,
No it doesn’t necessarily mean Skinner agreed with the Benn’s speech, but he isn’t usually backwards in showing his disapproval of things… So you take your interpretation and I will take my own. Tremendous tribute, I don’t subscribe to Skinner’s outdated view of politics but it was by far one of the best tributes to Benn Snr. Have you a source for Skinner’s wry wit? I couldn’t find it online?
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/reporter-former-jerusalem
As this thread is about Zionism , therefore Israel , readers may appreciate this fascinating story concerning the ownership of a house in Jerusalem by the New York Times and its former owners , the expelled family of a now well known Palestinian-British academic Ghada Karmi .
Criticizing Israel, it should of course be a daily thing like brushing your teeth, or eating one of your five fruit or veg.
You can do it first thing in the morning or if you feel like it last thing at night. You can do it in groups or solo or even on the telephone.
You can vent your daily wrath about Israel, to a taxi driver or bus driver or even a traffic warden, 99 times out 100 they’ll agree with you, it may even save you from paying a parking ticket.
Wear a Palestinian flag badge, you’ll be amazed at the smiles and thumbs up peoples give you.
Get your weekends off to flyer by mentioning the Gaza Strip over a glass of wine, in a bistro or bar, soon they’ll be queuing up to buy you a drink, it never fails.
Finally don’t be a Israeli bore onced you’ve conversed on the evils of Israel, move on to Obama or Cameron or Putin or Jingping, you can always return to Israel the next day.
@Mick, here’s the Twitter link;
https://twitter.com/BolsoverBeast/status/672330164882300928
(Surely knowing Skinner’s views, you can’t seriously believe that he agreed with Hilary’s speech !! 😀 )
Mick
Who in the hades set you up as an adjudicator?
Now knock it off an stop dishing out advise while supporting the zionist scum. This is British thing you understand.
Tag-teamtastic!
Meanwhile the scores are in for yesterday’s efforts from the RoP in spreading the peace & lurve around the world:
☆ 6 dead after two female suicide bombers detonate themselves in Waza, Cameroon.
☆ 2 gays hurled from a roof in Raqqa, Syria.
☆ 1 Russian hostage beheaded by Islamic State fanatics in Raqqa, Syria.
Tomorrow is Friday so expect worse…
You want to know exactly what happened to the Guardian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGAyJpzJwp4
Starts at 33:00
Macky,
Cheers for the link but Dennis Skinner doesn’t have a twitter account, he is well known to dislike email and social media. (this is the most recent time he discussed that I could find ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rzHKABhsJ8 ) No, I didn’t think he would have agreed, that was my point in a way, Skinner was able to appreciate the speech and its content without seeing it as a nefarious plot against Corbyn or part of a great Zionist conspiracy.
Fedup,
An adjudicator? I don’t consider myself as such, but surely I am as entitled to my opinion of disagreeing with vacuous and repetitive guff as you are to your opinion on the matters discussed here? Or do you not accept people who don’t agree with the prevailing sentiments of the commentators here? I don’t follow your British thing? Care to explain?
@Anon1, are you are lifting your “ROP” stuff from the same Race Hate Site that you once lifted that bogus Islamophobic List that Clark had great fun exposing as nonsense ? 😀
@Mick, I don’t think it’s an imposter account; if it is, then it’s fooling of lot of well known people !
What makes you so sure that Skinner doesn’t think that Hilary is plotting for the leadership ?
Mick 6.57pm
Mary has consistently shown the very DIRECT links between very ” powerful people ” and Israel . Your response appears to me as obfuscation to avoid the simple question I posed to you marked ‘ PS ‘ at the end of my post at 6.25pm . I repeat :
” PS Why do you think so many ” powerful people ” keep on having these proven connections to Israel ? ” .
I ask out of interest as the evidence can regularly be seen on this blog and verified as accurate . I have no desire to debate but am genuinely interested .
RE Philip Hammond, Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, who was the final one to speak in yesterday’s debate: Hammond said this:
“Ultimately there will need to be a ground assault on Raqqa, supported by continued airstrikes.”
Approx, 4.35 into his speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfmvtTMr6Pc
Or see my Hansard link above.
Hammond then was very ambiguous about who would carry out that ‘ground assault’.
If we click on the link provided in Mary’s long list of daily ‘atrocities’ committed against the Palestinians, we find in tiny print another link called “read more”.
If we click on that link we find that details of the rather dramatic sounding incidents copied and pasted by Mary.
Of the three most serious, those of two “killings” and one critically injured, we discover that all three were the result of Arabs ramming their cars into Israeli soldiers and civilians.
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Putin gave a speech today to the Russian parliament. Amongst other things he said:
“Some countries in the Middle East and North Africa, which used to be stable and relatively prosperous – Iraq, Libya, Syria – have turned into zones of chaos and anarchy that pose a threat to entire world.
“We know why it happened. We know who wanted to oust unwanted regimes, and rudely impose their own rules. They triggered hostilities, destroyed statehoods, set people against each other and simply washed their hands [of the situation] – giving way to radicals, extremists and terrorists.”
https://www.rt.com/news/324537-putin-annual-address-terrorism/
@Mick, having seen that Skinner link of yours, then yes, it probably is a fake Twitter account !! Amazed that it’s allowed really !!
This is a good site.
Today in Palestine.
It gives a daily run down of the Israeli army’s beatings assaults and murders, its been a busy December for the old IDF….ho..ho..ho.
http://blog.theheadlines.org/theHead/
PS save it in your favourites.
The truth hurts. Look at this Express story: Labour MPs targeted in Wikipedia bully plot as pages hacked to call them Tory & murderers:
The poor dears. What was that about politics being a contact sport?
“If we click on the link provided in Mary’s long list of daily ‘atrocities’ committed against the Palestinians, we find in tiny print another link called “read more”.
If we click on that link we find that details of the rather dramatic sounding incidents copied and pasted by Mary.
Of the three most serious, those of two “killings” and one critically injured, we discover that all three were the result of Arabs ramming their cars into Israeli soldiers and civilians.”
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At least Mary provides links.
Regarding RoP either put up or shut up, afterall like Habb, you might just be making shit up…there’s a good laddie.
Towards the end Rompuy lies outright about the true nature of the EU and ‘democracy’.
Herman van Rompuy talks about the Bilderberg Meetings
The President of the European Council mister Herman van Rompuy is interviewed about the Bilderberg Meetings.
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=73a_1449164426#g5JVJMuiH8qhgmui.99
Macky, are we supposed to ignore the daily atrocities carried out by Islamic fanatics arpund the world because you consider the reporting of them to be “race hate”? How do you even come to the conclusion that criticism of Islam is “race hate”?
Funny how the people who insist on being able to criticize Islam constantly complain about criticism of Israel.
Anon1: Wouldn’t you agree that the setting up of radical Madrases to turn unstable, disenfranchised Muslims into complete nut-cases, might be a rather bad idea? Would you like to state for the record that our setting them up across Pakistan and into Afghanistan, to stir up recruits for the likes of Bin Laden in his (then) quest against the Russians, might not have been the best idea?
Would you also agree that our good friends the Saudis might be better advised not to do the same right now?