Hilary Benn is very serious about his power grab and has been laying the ground for it very carefully. On 18 November BICOM – the British Israeli Communications and Research Centre – published this:
Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn told a Labour Friends of Israel (LFI) lunch yesterday that relations with Israel must be based on cooperation and rejected attempts to isolate the country.
Addressing senior party figures in Westminster, Benn praised Israel for its “progressive spirit, vibrant democracy, strong welfare state, thriving free press and independent judiciary.” He also called Israel “an economic giant, a high-tech centre, second only to the United States. A land of innovation and entrepreneurship, venture capital and graduates, private and public enterprise.”
Consequently, said Benn, “Our future relations must be built on cooperation and engagement, not isolation of Israel. We must take on those who seek to delegitimise the state of Israel or question its right to exist.”
It is worth reading the next article BICOM published. Brigadier General Michael Herzog, head of strategy for the Israeli defence Force, sets out a strategy for Israeli interests in Syria which dovetails precisely with what Benn and Cameron were pushing in the Commons. Note that Herzog says an overall diplomatic solution is not realistic and rather de facto partitioning of Syria suits Israel’s interests. Therefore there should be no waiting for diplomatic progress before western military action.
With his abandonment of any pretended concern for the slow and agonising genocide of the Palestinians, and his strident support for Trident, Benn is embracing the Israeli establishment and the British military and political establishment. In return, the Tories roared his speech to the rafters, while the media, and especially the Genie Energy linked media, are boosting him to the Labour leadership.
The United Kingdom has, temporarily, an opposition leadership which is not controlled, Zionist, neo-con and in the pocket of the arms industry. Benn has positioned himself very carefully to offer himself as the vehicle for the entire establishment to move to correct this aberration.
Mark, I think it’s fair to say that you and I both know that the neo-con psychos are marching us all off to World War Three.
Pepe Escobar now publishing on RT site. Latest piece well worth reading: How Russia is smashing the Turkish game in Syria.
Uh oh. From Guardian’s live coverage of Oldham:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/469784/Britain-conscription-Russia-World-War-Three-Syria
I don’t know what age most of us are but perhaps we could sign up to nice ‘ Winston ‘ Cameron’s Home Guard . [ Lo Zuccone aka Habba could ‘ fight them on the beaches ? ]
Also from Guardian live coverage:
Phil 1035
” I think labour will keep the seat due prominently to the high asian population (wont vote for UKIP who are likely to be 2nd). Also Jim Mcmahon is generally highly regarded for his work within the council. That being said, i believe the majority will be very small. Low turnout and i think the fact labour opposed airstrikes may be seen negatively here…..”
Wow, thats exactly what the Guardians saying now that it seems Labour will not actually be swept away by the tide of anti-Corbynism in Oldham
Great post Graig..Thanks
Mary
Don’t you dare.. KEEP POSTING.
Ahh Some Mention of Balfour Earlier… I have a book on the Subject.. Signed By Professor Norman Finkestein.
Re Hillary –
As students and staff members of the University of Leeds, we wish to make it clear that any vote for further violence in the region is done without the support of the undersigned from your constituency.It is not to late to change your mind and vote no to airstrikes…
In February of this year, students from Leeds University Amnesty International met you to discuss Shaker Aamer. During this discussion you asked us for our position on the conflict in Syria and Iraq. Although the situation may appear to have changed, then as now, we remain resolutely committed to ensuring the safety and protection of civilian lives across the world. It is our firm belief that British airstrikes over densely-populated civilian areas will hinder rather than assist in this. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights recently published that 653 civilians have been killed in Russian and Western airstrikes. On Thursday (November 26th) that number included five children killed by French airstrikes on a primary school in Raqqa; we will not allow British bombs to increase that death toll.
When the votes are cast on Wednesday for yet another Middle Eastern campaign, consider the following words from one of the wisest politicians to have graced the Labour Party: ‘There is no difference between a stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. Both kill innocent people for political reasons.’ Please heed these words of wisdom with the utmost diligence.
Yours peacefully,
See a full list of signatories here…
http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news/dear-hilary-benn-mp-eleventh-hour-plea-on-bombing-syria
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/western-firms-plan-to-cash-in-on-syria-s-oil-and-gas-frontier-6c5fa4a72a92#.f8wraomre
Every cloud has a silver lining………for some .
I’m read today that insulting the president is a crime in Turkey. That’s our ally. Thank fuck it’s not a crime in the UK or Australia, I’d be in real trouble. As would about 20 million other people. Erdogan is a cock, as well. Arrest me.
Turnout 40% apparently, thought it could’ve been lower.
Liam Young @liamyoung 47s47 seconds ago
The Guardian is reporting that Labour will win 62% of the vote in Oldham, beating UKIPs 23% – that unelectable Jeremy ey?
The establishment was certainly counting its chickens before they hatched, wasn’t it?
Lysias – the UK ‘duty and honour’ SAS & special services from Erinys International and some others landed in north of Latakia for a trek to liaise with militia in Akçalı behind the NW rat-line and the advancing ba’ath brigade and ISF – I expect some fierce fighting with RAF pilots using laser Brimstone this time to knock out the ‘terrorist’ (yeh right)heavy stuff while Russia works to support Syrian troops and others fighting Turkmen in this area.
It’s a fuckin mess with the proxy SAS closing on the 7th Air Assault Mountain Division in an area crucial to happy days and the joy of avoiding the fate of Libya and Iraq.
I still get terrible visions of complete devastation; a vision Mr Benn would have no chance of witnessing in his mind and feeling.
If labour win this (seems that way now), i wouldn’t read too much into. It was a no win situation. Labour always have a healthy majority around here. The competition has been pretty poor as well. The torries have never really tried here and UKIP are on a downward spiral IMO. Hell even the Lib Dems get votes round here…….
“carrot and stick”
Interesting that these are the tools with one which encourages animals. Horses and donkeys generally.
Animal husbandry. Animal Farm.
There’s a bit of a clue there.
Anyway. It was obvious from Benn’s time in Blair’s govt that he wasn’t like his father politically.
He was much probed about it by media when first appointed, and declared their differences.
Called him a “naughty parent”
His father was very proud of him that during the expenses scandal he was one of the lowest claimers.
Welled up in tears he did, looked to heaven, and said, “he’s a good boy”. Done me job, God.
Kate Burley went all gooey and maternal as well.
Always the carrots with Old Tone.
Much missed.
Glenn
‘Radicalized US Muslim clashed with his Jewish co-worker over religion two weeks before he and Pakistani wife killed 14 at office holiday party using huge arsenal of weapons and pipe bombs’
Outraged. Disenfranchised.
Labour wins with majority of 10,845.
Phil – “If labour win this (seems that way now), i wouldn’t read too much into. It was a no win situation. Labour always have a healthy majority around here.” – Pure Guardian. Dont be too downhearted Phil. Sooo close!
Glenn
‘Radicalized US Muslim clashed with his J3wish co-worker over religion two weeks before he and Pakistani wife killed 14 at office holiday party using huge arsenal of weapons and pipe bombs’
Outraged. Disenfranchised.
Im fairly happy with the result, i prefer labour to UKIP. I also think Mcmahon will be a good MP who has already done a lot of good for the town (although he did mess OAFC around too much). It is a reduced majority though. Will wait to give it a proper read through tomorrow before making any judgements on that though.
jasongorman @jasongorman 3m3 minutes ago
Get it while it’s hot – this Mirror doom-mongering about #OldhamWest sounds pretty hilarious now http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/oldham-west-election-labour-braces-6949526 …
Alcyone: “Glenn, so a handful of “books” are behind this whole game/ It’s laughable!”
No, no – not at all. Jesus. Those books (referenced in another thread, thanks for reading that, though) are the outward expression of what these far-right fundamentalist Christian fascists intended, and in putting a intellectual face on it, hoped to persuade society at large. At least, that part of society that counts, as far as they’re concerned.
Anon1: “Outraged. Disenfranchised.”
Ah, give it up. Why do I waste my time? Why even pretend to be engaged in any sort of intellectual discussion? Get out of here, you’re a miserable excuse for a rabble-rouser, and pretty obviously a rather contrived, silly alter-ego put-up of another correspondent here anyway.
Doesn’t mention that the male shooter spent some time in Saudi earlier this year, where he met the other shooter, who became his wife when he went back to California with her.
What was that about it being bad to criticize Wahhabism?
BBC: Jeremy Corbyn hails Oldham West and Royton by-election victory:
And some here — and elsewhere — were predicting either a defeat, or a great diminution of the Labour vote.
Has anyone got some garlic and a stake?
We just can’t keep him lying down.
Support for Isis stretches ‘deep into parts of Muslim societies,’ says Blair
Former prime minister warns of large-scale terror attacks in Europe as he praises MPs for voting for airstrikes in Syria and says Isis ideology ‘has deep roots’
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/04/support-isis-parts-muslim-societies-tony-blair
Friday 4 December 2015 01.26
BLiar was sounding off in the Library of Congress. It was the 7th Kissinger lecture. Who was paying him this time?
The lectern was named as the John W Kluge Center.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kluge At one time, the richest person in America. Now deceased.
BLiar can sniff out the money at the greatest distance known to man.
Deep roots amongst the rancid dregs of western think-tanks.
I know it’s a little off subject however; let’s not forget that Benn like so many others in the Labour Party abstained from voting in the 2nd reading of the Welfare bill back in July. He’s shown again here that he indeed runs with the fox and hunts with the hounds. Also if you take all the congratulations, back slapping lauding of the other pro bombing speakers there was little content to his speech, for me Anyways.
Alllove
Meanwhile the scores are in for yesterday’s efforts from the RoP in spreading the peace & lurve around the world:
☆ 6 dead after two female suicide bombers detonate themselves in Waza, Cameroon.
☆ 2 gays hurled from a roof in Raqqa, Syria.
☆ 1 Russian hostage beheaded by Islamic State fanatics in Raqqa, Syria.
Tomorrow is Friday so expect worse…
Unusually prescient of you, Anon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34982154
Amnesty International has described “an unprecedented wave of executions marking a grim new milestone in the Saudi Arabian authorities’ use of the death penalty”.
So what is behind the rise of executions? A lack of transparency in the Saudi legal system makes it difficult to know.
Headchoppers. Don’cha luv ’em? Riyadh must be worth a Brimstone or two, eh?
Is it this Dana Fwl?
From a comments section.
‘He kind of reminds me of this USA legislator.
Dana Tyrone Rohrabacher
Sometimes he is on his game, but for the most part he has 10 screws loose.
Should watch some of his statements, it is hard to believe he actually has held office since 1989, but he keeps changing district when his term is up.
Washington Politicians, who would have thought there is someone that sounds almost exactly like Robert Parry (or his main comment maker Abe) serving in Congress.’
You didn’t tell us what was said.