For those of you who believe that we have a diverse media, I present without much comment these tweets between Murdoch, Guardian and Independent television employees. It is interesting that their two less famous sympathisers who are included in these exchanges are both primarily motivated by support for Israel. Simon Myerson’s twitter ID self-describes him as “Ocean_Going Zionist QC”. Tomas Doran’s twitter ID self-describes him as “Friend of the Jews.” Of course Freeman, Daisley and Cohen have all been specifically cited on this blog in the past for their dreadful anti-Palestinian propaganda. All of these people are also fierce opponents of Scottish independence.
It is not the content of the twitter spat that is important – it is the links between these mainstream journos who pretend to represent opposing views, but combine to attack anybody who actually does so.
Well, I’m unionist and anti-Zionist.
“Have your say” on what I think to help maintain my privileges in strict accordance to arbitrary, and often not so arbitrary, rules.
What makes you think your narrative is so special? You crush diversity at every opportunity.
Cue the nodding dogs.
There has been no comment on the Hillary thread from our resident hasbarists about this Salon story about eminent Israeli-American sociologist Amitai Etzioni calling for flattening the city of Beirut because Hezbollah is there. So let me repeat the link here. Prominent American professor proposes that Israel “flatten Beirut” — a 1 million-person city it previously decimated.
I’m not surprised they all oppose Scottish independence very few in the media don’t.
As for those media hacks who fervently support Zionist/Israeli ideology. Its a way for less than mediocre journalists, of which they are plenty, and so called political bloggers to appease, and climb up the greasy pole of advancement.
Their sole purpose as a sell out, is to berate or ridicule anyone who presents a different perspective, like you do Craig.
Oh no not another Twitter spat.
“Tomas Doran’s twitter ID self-describes him as “Friend of the Jews.”
Oh no. The shame.
Anon1
I am a friend of the Jews myself. I have goodwill for all people. As you well understand, but pretend that you do not, Doran is in fact signalling a fierce support for the state of Israel, as a glance through his twitter stream indicates. Stop being disingenuous.
It is not the content of the twitter spat that is at all important – it is the links between these mainstream journos who pretend to represent opposing views, but combine to attack anybody who actually does so.
Incidentally this posting sparked a massive denial of service attack involving many thousand IP addresses.
To judge by his name, Tomas Doran is Irish. So he is indeed a shame, a shame for the Irish (like myself), eine Schande für die Iren.
C.M. writes: “it is the links between these mainstream journos who pretend to represent opposing views, but combine to attack anybody who actually does so”
Far-right, racist, xenophobe, etc., etc.
Highly amusingly, Marina Hyde emailed me angrily refuting my contention that she was in cahoots with Daisley, Kamm, Freeman and Cohen in bad-mouthing me and asking me to produce evidence.
She then immediately sent the triumphant tweet above to her mates Daisley, Kamm, Freeman and Cohen!
Any point typing a comment when they just get deleted? We don’t seem able to focus on the blood guts and trauma of Syria. Just tweets from people I don’t have a receiver (TV) to know about, and obituaries, and sweet fa cameron trying to pretend he isn’t up to his eyeballs with recruiting UK youngsters for Daesh.
not impressed.
Giyane
If you want a blog about the subjects that interest you, go and start one.
Or you can pay me a thousand quid a week and I will agree to post daily on whatever interests Giyane.
Otherwise, I was under the impression this is my blog and it has no pretension to universal news coverage. If the subjects don’t interest you, nobody is forcing you to be here.
“Highly amusingly, Marina Hyde emailed me angrily refuting my contention that she was in cahoots with Daisley, Kamm, Freeman and Cohen in bad-mouthing me and asking me to produce evidence.
She then immediately sent the triumphant tweet above to her mates Daisley, Kamm, Freeman and Cohen!”
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So someone doesn’t know how Twitter works.
When referring to Israel I believe it should be preceded by “the apartheid state of” because that is what it is. South Africa before Mandela needed such an epithet to be attached to let everybody know just what kind of a state it was. Likewise the apartheid state of Israel today.
Amazing that Etzioni should actually call for flattening Beirut.
From his Wikipedia entry:
But there’s something about foreign-borm Jewish academics in Israel. Samson Option:
Craig, why would I want to study cat’s vomit? i.e. the public comments of arsewipes
Giyane,
Well you don’t have to. I don’t want to read millions of blogs. But I don’t feel compelled to visit them and leave comments saying that I don’t want to read them. 🙂
I am just trying to point out how much these people are in cahoots. There are still a great many people who believe that the mainstream media gives a genuine range of opposing opinion, as opposed to being an elite class absolutely in cahoots.
“When referring to Israel I believe it should be preceded by “the apartheid state of” because that is what it is. South Africa before Mandela needed such an epithet to be attached to let everybody know just what kind of a state it was. Likewise the apartheid state of Israel today.”
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With the crucial difference being that Israel is not an apartheid state. Go there and find out.
In any state in which Muslims are a minority they will willingly separate themselves. This country being a case in point.
And Etzioni’s university is not calling him out for calling for flattening Beirut. George Washington U. Refuses to Condemn Professor’s Call to ‘Flatten’ Beirut With Extreme Weapons.
On the other hand, any state in which Muslims are the majority they will try and exclude the minorities.
Anon1
If the Arabs in Israel “willingly separate themselves”, why has it been necessary for the Israeli state to pass hundreds of pieces of legislation providing for specific ethnic or religious discrimination?
Can you come up with any justification that was not used by the proponents of apartheid South Africa?
Oh come on, Anon1. You managed an honest quote from me in the last thread, see if you can put down an honest thought in this one for the first time in your life, instead of spluttering away in this fashion.
Israel isn’t an apartheid state? Do me a favour.
Provide an example of a Palestinian check-point, stopping Israelis while Palestinians go freely on their way.
Provide an example of a Palestinian-only road, along which not only do Israelis have no access, but on which Israelis have to queue before they can even cross it – often for hours – in case a Palestinians driver wants to use it.
Show an example of where Israelis are humiliated by Palestinian guards. Perhaps where Israelis are forced to dance and play music to amuse the guards, in order to gain passage.
Show Palestinians school-children writing their names on missiles destined for their victims. Serious military hardware, we’re talking about here, not bottle-rockets.
Bonus prize if you can find a single Israeli official stating his recognition of a Palestinian right to exist.
Lysias:
“To judge by his name, Tomas Doran is Irish.”
And Hillary Clinton’s father was Welsh!
As to Etzioni’s call to “flatten Beirut” (as if they hadn’t tried that already a couple of times) there is also Mordechai Keller, another Israeli “intellectual”(recently invited to speak at Hunter College) who suggests that Palestinian women ought to be raped to deter terrorist attacks.
Israel just isn’t a very nice place. Few countries ruled by fascists are.
“With the crucial difference being that Israel is not an apartheid state. Go there and find out.”
Have you been to the settlements? Have you read about Palestinians being kicked off their own land, had their houses bulldozed so nice new ones can be built by Israeli settlers who stole the land. What planet do racists live on?
“What planet do racists live on?”
One where race is real.
O/T as yet unconfirmed reports are indicative of the Turkish forces attacking Syrian villages.
However keeping in mind the statements of Xavier Bettel prime minister of Luxembourg; “Turkey should not count on Nato backing her, if she attacks Syria”.
Are we sleep walking to WWIII?
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It is part and parcel of these parasites modus operandi to get form a group and then with backing of the group daring each other on, attack their perceived enemies in the wider world. As ever their IQ is not all that high as their contemptuous transactions are telling!
You should have noticed the same operational mode in this blog with respect to certain operatives whose allegiance to zionistan is a badly kept secret as per their denials!!
You protest too much None of these people are remotely important, and none of them have articulate views based on experience or reason. They all belong to that most superficial and redundant of categories – the opinion columnist. In other words, for ludicrous sums of money, they have to manufacture an opinion on some news topic of the week, and grind it out in turgid prose, as if your view is of any import to anyone. It is the most self-deceiving of genres, in that it gives rise to the most self-inflated sense of their own importance, because they have a platform to pontificate to the rest of us, who they imagine wait on their every word. At one time, maybe a few columnists like this had some influence, or could write well. Nowadays, with blogs and websites, opinions are two a penny, and are of little relevance to most people. The blogs which thrive are written by people whose opinion is less important than the quality of their writing and research – old fashioned journalistic values, which opinion columnists ignore completely. At least Marina Hyde can be funny, the rest of them are dull, self-important nonentities who lucked out with feeble editors and, like Cohen, have been churning out the same tired old claptrap for years. They really don’t matter, and aren’t worth your time.
Anon 1
“On the other hand, any state in which Muslims are the majority they will try and exclude the minorities.”
This is simply untrue. Syria, for example, has an ancient and vibrant Christian community. So do Egypt and Lebanon. So did Iraq before 2003.
Jews, Christians, Druze and various sects of muslims have long lived in peace in the region.
Two persecuting powers, the wahhabis and the zionists (who have taken great pains to kill Jewish culture in the region, using terrorist attacks to provoke persecution in some cases) have always relied upon the support of the US and its clients.
The case of Syria is particularly clear: there not only shia and Christian minorities but most sunni utterly reject the wahhabi salafists that the “west” arms and pays. There have been several appalling massacres in recent years and the governments that you almost always support must bear much of the responsibility.
Ian,
Thank you. That was very well said.