For those of you who believe that we have a diverse media, I present without much comment these tweets between Murdoch, Guardian and Independent television employees. It is interesting that their two less famous sympathisers who are included in these exchanges are both primarily motivated by support for Israel. Simon Myerson’s twitter ID self-describes him as “Ocean_Going Zionist QC”. Tomas Doran’s twitter ID self-describes him as “Friend of the Jews.” Of course Freeman, Daisley and Cohen have all been specifically cited on this blog in the past for their dreadful anti-Palestinian propaganda. All of these people are also fierce opponents of Scottish independence.
It is not the content of the twitter spat that is important – it is the links between these mainstream journos who pretend to represent opposing views, but combine to attack anybody who actually does so.
Resident Dissident, I’ve left an important reply to you on a previous thread:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/02/hillary-clinton-is-the-guardian/comment-page-9/#comment-579479
Resident Dissident, 9:30 am; who do you think Hadley Freeman was referring to?
I bigged Hadley up once. But she’s clearly evidenced she has an empty head.
I suspect if the media did there job most would take it as seriously as they do when one of their favored people come under attack. Then they line up to show how preposterous things are (even when it’s not, and real crimes have taken place)..
I may think Craigs a bit wrong, quite wrong, often. But he’s no way near as duplicitous, blind and stupid as those in the press.
‘Job depends on not understanding’. .
Craig Murray
20/02/16 10:02pm
A small point, but it is interesting that this Marina Hyde has no idea how to spell “breath so bated”.
Not impressive in someone pretending to be a journalist. I think I’ll point it out to her, see if I can get her to ban me like Joan Smith did.
Kind regards,
John
Craig Murray
20/02/16 10:02pm
Oh, Hyde has deleted her own comment from her Twitter feed! Well, well, well.
I’ll see if I can point it out on everybody’s Twitter feed that she sent it to.
Kind regards,
John
Resident Dissident, 9:30 am; who do you think Hadley Freeman was referring to?
I haven’t a clue – the whole of the male sex?
Resident Dissident, so what was your meaning in your 09:30 comment? I do wish you’d be more direct. Maybe I’m a bit autistic or something, but I often fail to understand.
Any friend of zionist is a friend of the World, however bizarre their behaviour;
The court rightfully sentenced Ahmed to life imprisonment, which should mean the four years old Ahmed is the record holder for the youngest lifer in the world! No you did not misread, no it is not a typo; Ahmed’s crime spree started when he was just a one and one half year old, he committed all before his second birthday Bloody hoodlum best place for him in jail!!! Do they have nursery section in the Egyptian Jails?
Fedup, there was a genuine people’s uprising in Egypt. As subsequent matters were developing the US intervened, backing their favourite party and supporting a coup . Craig documented that; can you find the link?
CM,
Sometimes I really do believe that one should not give any oxygen whatsoever to these ‘self publicists’ and ‘non-entities’.
Indeed, I’m thankful to Private Eye in its satire directed at the likes of Hadley, Hyde and Cohen via utilising the name ‘Polly Filler” and Phil Space’, which sums up these cretins in a nutshell, airheads one and all.
My one major critique of these folk is the fact that they exist only in the ‘London Bubble’ and have zero idea of life in the UK outside of their little bubble. They do however each share an high opinion of themselves, hence their requirement to utilise platforms such as twitter to pump themselves up.
In a nutshell, empty shells just sprouting off their masters desires and as such, propagandists of the worst kind. They certainly are not journalists that’s for sure.
John Spencer Davis
Thank you. It is interesting Marina has deleted her comment. She challenged me to point out her original comment to which I referred in an earlier posting, but I could not find it again. She then tweeted the same recipients I had referred to gloating about it. Now she has deleted that second tweet, but only after I got the screenshot of it above.
There are two possibilities. The first is that I imagined her original tweet and blogged about it, maligning her. The second is that she deleted it. But it is strange she would have to hand precisely the same recipients again and be able to join in their twitter thread about me.
It is however a possibility the original mistake was mine.
Fedup
20/02/16 11:42am
He was in such a wild rage, six custody officers were unable to drag him into court…they had forgotten his breakfast M&M’s that morning.
Kind regards,
John
Clark the original genuine uprising was stifled soon as it started!!!! Convict Morsi currently awaiting his execution; the deposed President was the democratically elected president the Egyptian chose, but soon after the whole course of the Egyptian economy went south and the sabotage of that economy paved the way for the torturer in chief al Sisi to become president.
Arab spring was another colour revolution that went wrong and had to be put right soon after!!! These Arabs you cannot trust them even with a seasonal revolution!!!! They went and chose the wrong chap, didn’t they?
Or you can pay me a thousand quid a week and I will agree to post daily on whatever interests Giyane.
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Craig, the world has moved on. Fifty thousand a year won’t get you much in the way of good bigos these days.
However, I am tempted to crowdfund just such an enterprise as it seems the best way to let the world see how morally bankrupt that ME state is.
Wot no M&Ms?
ROFL John if we don’t laugh we will start drying, surreal is no longer holding, seems the world is on a bad acid trip, not that I have had an experience of such, but I should imagine it ought be similar to the Zeitgeist.
Aha, I found the offending pearl:
Anon1 23.19 yesterday, …”Anyone who seriously considers themselves to be a Muslim does not integrate into this society.”
Anyone who seriously considers themselves to be a Muslim will serve God all day long, whether they serving customers with a friendly joke, or caring for sick patients ( as many do ) or by dealing patiently with customers whose car/electrics/plumbing etc may need money spending on them and using one’s interest in the truth to advise them through very technical decisions.
It has long appeared to me that British society has veered off into Thatcheristic sel-interest. I see Islam as a way of carrying on in a straight line after the rest have swerved off the road following the swivel neo-cons.
yes I do find it hard to integrate with swivel neo-cons, but I’m giving it a go, aren’t I?
MerkinScot
Craig maybe pitched his suggestion of £1000 p.w. to me knowing I’m as a low-paid electrician who has lost a lot of puff recently.
This job which is done at night so the office dwellers don’t have to see real work being done in front of them, requires you to propel a heavy toolbox on each shoulder, in hat, boots, gloves goggles, mask across huge sites, up stairs in cold windy spaces of construction sites.
Whoever invented our system of extraordinarily rich colonial capitalists representing coal-miners needed their head testing. Bread and circuses, otherwise known as tax credits, have returned the UK to the original concept of fat capitalist owning the workers. The fat cats want to extract all remaining vestiges of socialism , but are unable to do so so long as we remain protected by EU law.
The BBC were presenting Boris this week as some kind of people’s tory who us dafties could follow like lemmings to our own destruction by leaving the EU.
Craig: “It is however a possibility the original mistake was mine.”
Your humility is one of your endearing qualities, and I’m not just saying that because of your cheap day-rates, Craig.
giyane
I view Islam much like Christianity. The central organized core?…I don’t want or perhaps need to go into it. But as practiced by people? It has many positive aspects, originating as many do from other things. Ie Christianity- Jesus – Jesus like anyone who seems too stand out was part of a scene…
The questions many religions are concerned with aren’t really separate from things many think about, practice. Sadly how organized forms with conformity, blindness, subjugation and oppression are used to control people and gain perceived power, much like how modern politics perpetuates itself…..
I will say though, last I heard people face nothing leaving Christianity. It’s clearly not that simple, but many frankly horrific things do exist in Islam, I don’t single it out because most what we are seeing atm is totally unrelated.
Marina
The 1.8 marina was a much better engine than the 1.7 Ital. Expecting a second baby, I bought an overhead cam Ital to replace our beloved Ami 8 Citroen. The Ital used to eat a litre of oil every 100 miles, owing to a twisted head gasket. A minor problem Rover later built into their 800 range.
2 dodgy gifts our government has made to the People’s republic of China, Rover cars and a stock exchange.
“The ancient Poets animated all sensible objects with Gods or Geniuses, calling them by the names and adorning them with the properties of woods, rivers, mountains, lakes, cities, nations, and whatever their enlarged & numerous senses could percieve.
And particularly they studied the genius of each city & country, placing it under its mental deity;
Till a system was formed, which some took advantage of & enslav’d the vulgar by attempting to realize or abstract the mental deities from their objects: thus began Priesthood;
Choosing forms of worship from poetic tales.
And at length they pronounc’d that the Gods had order’d such things.
Thus men forgot that All deities reside in the human breast.” Blake.
The forms have changed. But the region is just the same in the Uk, especially but not limited to atheists, bankers, blogs, etc. So that’s my focus.
Uphill
The unacceptable parts of Islam are not religion but politics, or lying as I prefer to call it.
Through various devious means, such as brain-washing and torture, the West is trying to make Islam so revolting nobody in the West would ever think of embracing.
They are running very scared indeed. But bolting a catalytic converter, cat, onto a faulty engine design, as Rover did, will not solve the problem. It consumed the smoke from the oil. To me, Christianity is a religion which has been distorted like the twisted block of the Ital engine.
The West wants to deflect their fundamental design flaws onto Islam. Create political islam, set up daesh, and now recruit Asian non-Muslim thugs against Russia from the former colonies of the former soviet union:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article190333.html
There is only one design of human that works, the one made by the Creator and set out by a succession of prophets to explain, peace be on all of them equally. The one for our time is Muhammad SAW.
Uphill
If you can once convince humanity that good or harm is being done to them by inanimate objects, i.e. animinsm, you can play politics with them, i.e. lying, and they will always blame the dead things.
If you can only persuade them that God delegated an atom of power to a human, you can convince them that obviously God would delegates some power from that human, to lesser humans like a pope, a priest, a Mulla or a King.
ironically one of the most purist of anti-animist doctrines, wahabism in Saudi arabia, is also the one that makes the strongest claims for divine authority, for the power of Kings, and for the right of its followers to excommunicate those who don’t agree with them =takfir.
Bollocks and bullshit, smoke and mirrors, magic and heresy.
You can fool some of the people some of the time, but no-one has quite found a way of selling bullshit all the time to all comers.
If Syria is a civil war, it is not a civil war between civilians. It is a civil war between the lies and heresy of saudi Arabian Wahabism + the lies and heresy of Western capitalism, on the one side, and the truth and hope of islam + the truth and hope of socialism on the other side.
The swivels and their equally swivel saudi partners are losing at the moment , so time for a quick tea-break cease-fire.
Just having a lot of oil money, and a lot of banking sorcery, doesn’t mean your stupid ideas are going to win, Mr Cameron, Adel Al Jubair, Bibi, O’bum.
Anon1
19 Feb, 2016 – 10:33 pm
With the crucial difference being that Israel is not an apartheid state. Go there and find out.
In any state in which Muslims are a minority they will willingly separate themselves. This country being a case in point.
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“…willingly separate themselves…” ???
Read what follows below and, if you can, demolish the points made by Saree Makdisi, a professor of English and comparative literature at UCLA, is the author of “Palestine Inside Out: An Everyday Occupation.”
You may be assisted by your Zionist friends; Habbabkuk, Resident Dissident et al.
The International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid was adopted by the U.N. General Assembly in 1973.
According to Article II of that convention, the term applies to acts “committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them.” Denying those others the right to life and liberty, subjecting them to arbitrary arrest, expropriating their property, depriving them of the right to leave and return to their country or the right to freedom of movement and of residence, creating separate reserves and ghettos for the members of different racial groups, preventing mixed marriages — these are all examples of the crime of apartheid specifically mentioned in the convention.
The Jewish state (for so it identifies itself, after all) maintains a system of formal and informal housing segregation both in Israel and in the occupied territories. It’s obvious, of course, that Jewish settlements in the West Bank aren’t exactly bursting with Palestinians. In Israel itself, however, hundreds of communities have been established for Jewish residents on land expropriated from Palestinians, in which segregation is maintained, for example, by admissions committees empowered to use ethnic criteria long since banned in the United States, or by the inability of Palestinian citizens to access land held exclusively for the Jewish people by the state-sanctioned Jewish National Fund.
Jewish residents of the occupied territories enjoy various rights and privileges denied to their Palestinian neighbors. While the former enjoy the protections of Israeli civil law, the latter are subject to the harsh provisions of military law. So, while their Jewish neighbors come and go freely, West Bank Palestinians are subject to arbitrary arrest and detention, and to the denial of freedom of movement; they are frequently barred from access to educational or healthcare facilities.
One of the key components of Israel’s nationality law, the Law of Return, for example, applies to Jews only, and excludes Palestinians, including Palestinians born in what is now the state of Israel. While Jewish citizens can move back and forth without interdiction, Israeli law expressly bars Palestinian citizens from bringing spouses from the occupied territories to live with them in Israel.
Lies and fallacy:
[…] Clinton has been much more than a bit player in the Syrian crisis. Her diplomat Ambassador Christopher Stevens in Benghazi was killed as he was running a CIA operation to ship Libyan heavy weapons to Syria. Clinton herself took the lead role in organizing the so-called “Friends of Syria” to back the CIA-led insurgency.
http://off-guardian.org/2016/02/18/analysis-hillary-clinton-and-the-syrian-bloodbath/
After treading the wrong side of a fine line for a while I am certainly convinced Britain should exit the EU.
Reaching that decision has been difficult because strength resides in unity and peace resides in harmony. To explain, I myself remain horrified and distressed over the carnage and havoc brought to Syria by the Western alliance. In a Syrian numbers game the figures are execrable.
Knowing that Britain is neither in or out of the EU, neither committed or ‘any way the wind blows’ is one thing, however a Britain bleeding the EU to collude or cooperate with the US is away from the axiom of truth; indeed this rings the very same principles I am resolutely with Craig and others who call for Scotland’s autonomy and self-rule.
Anon1
19 Feb, 2016 – 10:36 pm
“On the other hand, any state in which Muslims are the majority they will try and exclude the minorities.”
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Anon 1, Palestine was a majority Muslim state in 1947. J-ws 630,000; Christians 143,000;
Muslims 1 million,181thousand.
They lived in relative harmony until the J..ish-Zionist-terrorist gangs came along to claim the land for the J-ws
“And the majority of people in Scotland oppose Scottish independence as well”
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Fred.
You mean frightened into opposing Scottish independence.
Then promised mediocre powers that can’t be fully used, and restricted by a detrimental fiscal framework that still hasn’t been finalised.
Of course Fred there are those who would’ve vote no even if Westminster had razed Scotland to the ground, the retarded O/O and the die-hard loyalists, most are poor and uneducated, a fawning lumpenproletariat army of anti-Scottish advancement.
Scottish independence is the only way forward.
@Mark Golding,
Having secured my own eligibility to vote in the forthcoming EU referendum, I’m afraid I shall be following your lead and voting for an exit, however, my opinion has been hugely influence by the growing tide of neoliberalism within the corridors of power in the Commission, the influence of warmongers within the EU and the imposition of austerity on numerous Euro Zone member states, despite the populations of said states being vehemently opposed to said economic prescriptions. As such, one cannot talk about democracy and the EU and it’s existing structures in the same breath without realising the massive democratic deficit that exists, particularly when we consider the leader of one of the member states that engaged wilfully in tax evasion is now head of the Commission.
And then there is TTIP, which more or less seals the deal for me. No. No, No.
“You mean frightened into opposing Scottish independence.”
No. That isn’t what I said and it isn’t what I meant. Wise enough and strong enough to oppose the Nationalists.
“No. That isn’t what I said and it isn’t what I meant. Wise enough and strong enough to oppose the Nationalists.”
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It’s not about the nationalists many people voted for independence and didn’t support the SNP, you still don’t get it Fred, and you probably never will.
Tell me Fred, what’s “wise” as you said about denying a country the full use if its powers.
What’s “wise” about letting another countries parliament supercede your own on many matters including defence and foreign policy.
What’s “wise” about letting a political party with one MP in your country and that virtually no one voted for make decisions for Scotland’s citizens.
What’s “wise” about letting a foreign country and its ally the USA place nuclear weapons and submarines on its soil effectively painting a giant bullseye on Scotland.
I could go on but it would be wasted on you, truthfully there’s nothing “wise” as you say about voting no. Infact it’s stupid and inward to not have all the levers of power, which would allow Scotland to move in whatever direction best suited its people.