Labour and Tories were neck and neck on 32% in the Mail on Sunday Survation poll on 25 June, the day before the Blarites launched their coup against the “unelectable” Corbyn. Before Corbyn became leader, Labour were consistently between 7 and 12 points behind on Survation. That Corbyn has done so well in popular opinion and in elections, is remarkable considering the Blairites who dominate his own parliamentary labour party have been conspiring and briefing against him from day one.
The coup “rationale” is based on two lies – that Labour was struggling in the polls, and that an early general election is imminent.
Whoever becomes the new Tory Prime Minister, there is not going to be an early general election. No new Tory PM will throw away the 30 seat gain over Labour the Tories will get from the new Boundary Commission Review.
The new PM will have 3.5 years in Downing Street with a working Commons majority. As I predicted, the temperature of debate in the Tory party has cooled almost completely. Their leadership contest is genteel. People who were accusing each other of outright lies and appalling behaviour just one week ago, are now all chummy together again. The Tories care about power above all else. They have it and won’t risk it.
An incoming PM has never been under an obligation to call a general election; since the Fixed Term Parliaments Act they are under an obligation not to do so. By genuine coincidence, Theresa May just said almost exactly that just after I typed it.
Of one thing I am absolutely sure. The public contempt for the political class which was behind much of the Brexit vote, is growing into a still stronger movement as the unedifying naked power seeking of all the right wingers, Labour and Tory, unfolds in plain view. I suspect if Corbyn holds on there is a chance the public mood the mainstream media is unanimously attempting to whip up against him, may surge to support him strongly, due to intense dislike of the politicians and so-called journalists who are hounding him.
Have a look at Another Angry Voice on Angela Eagle. If anyone can post a link I’d be grateful.
http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/is-angela-eagle-more-electable-than.html
Angela “Walking” Eagle if you please. ;O))
I agree – no early election is on the cards.
The Brexit vote will be allowed to go stale while the Tories choose their next leader. Corbyn will undoubtedly win another landslide if he cannot be somehow kept off the ballot for Labour leader.
What then? Will the Blairite hyenas skulk away, be cowed into line or rally for another go in 6 months time? Interesting times. Meanwhile Rome burns.
If the Labour Party has any sense it will amend the rules on the selection of candidates such that constituencies will have the right to select which candidates they want prior to an election. This would most likely lead to the “Blairite hyenas” skulking away to the obscurity that is their true place in history.
All this can be achieved at the next party conference in September, when all the new members who joined to support Corbyn will have full voting rights for the first time.
Are you joking – where many constituency parties have barely a couple of hundred members of whom only a very few (usually the hard left) are actually active?
Surely the public will not allow a Prime Minister who has not been democratically elected to oversee withdrawal from the EU?
Unless we’re saying not only will there not be a General Election, but Article 50 will do not be invoked either…?
The replacement to Mr Cameron as Prime Minister will not have been elected any more or any less democratically than any other Prime Minister.
As you probably know, Prime Ministers are not directly elected by popular vote.
Not quite like an elected president, but almost all came as part of a package. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom
Article 50 should have been invoked on June 24th. It has now been kicked into the long grass where it is likely to remain. I think the EU should accept the referendum result itself as constructive notice that Article 50 has been triggered.
EU legal experts have already advised that that would not do. Notification has to be by way of a formal letter or a formal declaration, much as the Leavers would wish otherwise.
British governments are never democratically elected. FTPT guarantees minority rule.
We were talking about the way the PM is chosen.
Uppity Types..Habb even you must have something inside..For Gods sake Man
Brian
I am struggling to make sense of your last few posts, which seem to address me. What are you attempting to tell me?
Well said Craig. I hope he holds on. There are all sorts of chicaneries going on right now. What gall these Conservatives have. I got an e mail from my Conservative MP before the referendum suggesting I vote against staying in the EU, giving immigration as the reason. After I heard Boris Johnson saying that the result didn’t reflect an anti immigration stance, not believing my ears,I looked at the email again. Ah, it talked of control of immigration. Weasel words! Easily mistaken for ” let’s stop immigration”, but could actually only mean ” let’s stop letting people with criminal records enter the country”. I have no doubt that the lack of clarity was deliberate! Now, with the connivance of the press and TV, you’d think the most pressing political problem of the day was what to do about Jeremy Corbin. When he actually has more support at the grass roots than any of them! How do they get away with it? How can they be stopped?
Whilst I agree – Corbyn needs to stay & it is very likely that he will – there is one area in Craig’s comment piece that may not be quite correct, the Tory majority. As we know, the police are investigating somewhere between 15 and 25 tory seats for electoral fraud. There is a real possibility of there being new by-elections in some/many/all of these seats. this will erode the Tory majority. The problem the tories face is this: they need a 60% majority to call an election before the end of the fixed term. What happens if their majority is gradually eroded to the point where they do not have one. What happens if they get booted out and a coalition gov formed. We are heading for interesting times in the banana kingdom that is the UK.
The only addition I would make to Craig’s analysis – with which I agree (except for e last couple of lines on Mr Corbyn, which I would call optimistic) – is to suggest that all politicians, not just the “right-wingers”, seek to obtain power and once they have obtained it. to hang on to it. What is the essential purpose of politics in a democracy if not power?
Craig – I hope you are going to post substantively on Brexit – or not – in due course as a change from focussing on the travails of the Labour Party and on a second Scottish referendum?
On Brexit itself, as I have consistently said, the establishment will never allow it actually to happen.
100% agree on this. How they will avoid it is less obvious but they have many ways. After 3 months contemplation the vast majority of Brits will realise they don’t want to lose the benefits of EU membership so the new Tory head boy will be able to get away with any slight of hand. A free vote in parliament, a stern fatherly ‘we know best’ speech… I don’t think they’d risk another referendum but they could even get away with that.
Whatever happens – they won’t leave the EU. I wonder what odds I’d get were I a betting man?
I assume the markets have recovered because they realize Brexit won’t happen.
Lysias you should be a lot more familiar with the rigged operation of the markets, and their undue and overemphasised role in our politics. What is the knock on effect of market sliding on the UK population? Zealch, zip, nothing!!! The share ownership in UK is a couple of shares of utilities, and BT in addition to the old banking shares that went bust and landed the share holders with huge losses.
Therefore the role of the markets in UK are of no consequence to the people whom own a negligible number of shares, hence it is of no consequence for the population, also it should be noted that the ludicrous claims of pensions and insurance companies owning shares which totals a whole 17% of the shares, this clearly indicates a further irrelevance of the markets to the UK population.
Thus to see the market movements and the song and a dance about it all, it only conveys the dismay of the Oligarchs whom play around and end up losing money and then try and claw it back through various rallies in the markets. That is not forgetting the various other agents; plunge protection teams and the computer cut off points.
I think you are right – and certainly hope so.
“Brexit may never happen, says US Secretary of State John Kerry
US Secretary of State quoted as saying there are still ‘a number of ways’ Britain could avoid Brexit”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-john-kerry-leaving-the-eu-may-never-happen-despite-eu-referendum-a7108811.html
It is the case that there are powerful forces who will seek to prevent Brexit from actually happening. However, for the moment these forces have lost control and it is not clear that they will succeed in their aims.
Focus will move from the UK and onto France and Italy. There are growing popular movements in both countries and for so long as Brexit is “in play” these movements will continue to grow. There does not appear to be any credible plan to overtly dump Brexit – and even if there is, it may not be enough. A European banking crisis cannot be forestalled for ever and it is obvious that Central Banks are now firing blanks.
Soon it will be time for European humanitarians to demonstrate their humanity by once again smashing their iron heel of oppression into the faces of the Greek people. Kill a Greek and prove your liberal credentials does not seem like much a rallying cry.
Craig forgive me..Where Do ye Stand For Indy reff……. Numbers on Streets..Yes ..We Have More …And Ta I have just finished yir book …When i can’t put a book down… My friends at Squounk Say thank Fuck
Isn,t it the case that the driving force behind the “Corbyn putsche” are the Portland Group/The Fabian Society both rabid right wing entities,backed by the HSBC and other large corperations,Corbyn and his supporters should “out” them,and their local labour branches toss them out.
I agree.
Couldn’t the government repeal the European Communities Act 1972 and sort out the treaties later to follow the democratic will of the people?
I know that is your view, Craig. What I am interested in is whether – given the figures, their geographical distribution and the risks inherent in referendums (at least referendums with such questions) – you would view such a development favorably or not.
Remember what the outcome of a referendum on (for example) capital punishment after a couple of particularly savage child murders would be likely to be.
Craig
I note that non-answer and shall press you no further, in the hope that you will do the right thing in due course. Because I am sure that you know it will be the right thing.
Yes, and if you are right about Chilcot then Corbyn will soon be sending the fat Blairite lambs to market for meat.
The Blairites won’t be done after that.
The problem is that if Corbyn wins the leadership election, then the most disgruntled careerists will likely spin off another SDP (for much the same reasons as the last one – because they’re upset at losing their ability to choose the next Labour leader). It won’t do much in the long term – there’s not really much room for another party in that particular space, between Labour, the SNP, Plaid and the Liberals all hovering around there somewhere – but it’ll probably be enough to sabotage Labour’s chance in the next GE, thus, in their view, ‘proving’ that the Blairite theory of politics – that the only Labour votes to be had are ones pulled from the Tories by lurching rightwards – is right.
We’re about to see a whole bunch of those jeering traitors that the Labour Party sings about every year…
I can’t see a Blairite break away party making much impact. What would it stand for? Who would vote for it?
It would stand for the rights of the political classes everywhere to choose the Political leadership of this country regardless of the wishes of the actual party membership, and regardless of the ability to create some sort of support base among the population. And probably a grab bag of other Blairite stuff too, for appearances sake.
As for who would vote for it – same people who would vote for the SDP in the 80s – i.e. Middle class people who actually believe what the news tells them for a couple of years. Then after that, nobody. Nobody at all.
It would also last sufficiently long for the Tories to remain in power for another 10 years or so, until they’d done enough damage and become sufficiently corrupt for the population to finally have enough of them.
The situation today is different from 80’s i think.
Then the idea of moderate middle-of-the-roaders were attractive to many people repulsed by the right wing militancy of Thatcher and the leftwing militancy of Foot.
Today it is the opposite. The public are repulsed by the London “moderates.” They’re splitting to the left and right to get rid of them.
> Then the idea of moderate middle-of-the-roaders were attractive to many people repulsed by the right wing militancy of Thatcher and the leftwing militancy of Foot.
That’s maybe the myth peddled by the media then and Blairites now, but when it comes to internal Labour Party politics, it’s utter bollocks. The ’81 leadership election was won by Healey only by a sliver, because he got the Trade Union bloc (i.e the biggest union leaders) and the Parliamentary Party vote, whilst Benn got a *massive* majority of the party membership, who comprised only 30% of the total, then. Despite that, the SDP did cut into the Labour vote in ’83.
> Today it is the opposite. The public are repulsed by the London “moderates.” They’re splitting to the left and right to get rid of them.
The politicians who’re piling on Corbyn at the moment mostly don’t see things that way.
Denis Healey won the leadership election in 1981?
Have you perhaps left out a six-letter word?
Sure did. This comments section needs an ‘edit’ button so I can fix the brainfarts.
You forgot UKIP
lots of people voted for them at the last general election 3.8 million votes
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Has anyone noticed the Anti Corbyn Channel (beebeecee) and it’s constant anti Corbyn drivel?
This morning on the beebeecee they had rolled out the “dissenters” in labour who had the ludicrous notion of Ukip will be eating into the labour vote!!!! Who the heck is briefing these morons?
But it’s true that UKIP has seduced disaffected probable Labour voters in deprived areas. I don’t think that’s baseless. However, if the propagandists were honest, they’d acknowledge that this was as much as anything due to Blair’s immigration non-policy. See here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3466485/How-Blair-cynically-let-two-million-migrants-Explosive-biography-reveals-PM-s-conspiracy-silence-immigration-debate.html
Blair made the rod for their back. Ironic, eh?
Corbyn is approaching his Dunkirk moment. I sincerely hope he uses Chilcott to stuff the Blairites and launch a clarion call to the left to back him and replace blue labour with candidates who are in tune with labour voters. Some multi cultural sacred cows will have to be slaughtered if they are to have any chance of defeating UKIP next time.
Some multi cultural sacred cows will have to be slaughtered if they are to have any chance of defeating UKIP next time.
While that’s true, I don’t see either faction in Labour wanting to wield the humane killer. OTOH, UKIP will have to polish its image considerably if it has aspirations to be the butcher.
The London elite just hasn’t the least idea about how to talk to the provinces (or large parts of London).
The fact that Ms Eagle is a lesbian will doubtless be spun to suggest that all Corbyn-supporters who oppose her are misogynistic homophobes, just as, after the Labour MP’s murder, they smeared all Brexiteers with being nazi nutcases and all supporters of Palestine as being anti-semites.
Identity politics is, mercifully, dying in plain sight.
They would have more chance wit Eddie the Eagle
Many a true word is spoken in jest. ! 😀
Boris has gorn, thank god 🙂
Pycrete? Are you perchance taking the mock out of Habbakuk? ;o))
I would never dream of such a despicable act!
On the other hand you might google a failed ww1 naval project 🙂 🙂
Sorry wwII ..
You mean Dieppe (18 August 1942)?
19 August 1942
CM,
Not too sure Tory Leadership Election will remain genteel now that Gove has stabbed BoJo in the back and entered the ring, seems like the media have already decided Ms May will be the new Tory leader, and as you suggest she’s already stated that she’ll hold no early election and will a trigger A50, hence UK Brexit from EU.
As it stands now, it would seem the Labour Party plotters have shot their load too soon in their attempt to overthrow the duly elected leader of the Labour Party, it would seem the fear of an early election and the losing of seats had a cascade effect on many a Labour MP’s now threatened by a pincer movement from the Tories and UKIP, particularly in the Labour heartlands – if no election threat all exposed as the traitors and cowards they are.
This before we get to Chilcot’s damning Report next week, which is bound to inflict maximum harm on the Blair faction at the heart of the Coup.
So, the question is, how long can Corbyn hang on and what impact all this will have on any leadership bid by Eagle, given she was all for war with Iraq and voted against an enquiry under Brown, hence her voting record alone is quite deplorable and hardly inspiring to the average rank and file member.
The fundamental problem with your analysis is that you seem to think the Blairites are acting in good faith when they say they believe Corbyn’s leadership will lead to the party being wiped out in an election.
After all the bye-elections, the local elections, the mayoral elections, the opinion polls, that claim is completely untenable.
Surely the only plausible explanation is that they are scared he will win. If he does, their careers will be over. And that is why they are panicking.
I think a lot of voters want to give Corbyn a chance to have his say on the Chilcot report as leader of the Labour Party on 6 July. No wonder so many Blairites are trying to get him out before then. Hang in there, Jeremy Corbyn! .
boris has all been an in man an actor of sorts during lovely kit marly marlowes time a queens man.
that is what we have actors on the stage these acts do not die with a knife in the eye in deptford
because they are loyal.
boris not running is was expected stalking horse pantomime for a may man like david cam another israeli firster ohh how mark regev loves this play.
the best way to destroy a movement is by infiltration boris flip away from europe was a farce corbyn into europe was a sick joke we are being guided herded here bbc tell s us democracy democracy daily the mother of all what rot.
farage another player from a different house group was sidelined his ideas taken over by boris then run into the ground.
nigel is for the boston brakes again alas man of steel with an israeli first backbone may has it.
westminster is owned by mossad via blackmail who knows what mi5’s position is what did they do about saville and his ilk nothing.
in or out we are mere rabble in the house watching the perverts and moral degenerates on stage ignoring and moaning while bestile crimes go on.
The final rationale that the Blairites will give to excuse their complicity in the imperial attack on-and devastation of-Iraq, will be that they did it to establish democracy.
It will be a difficult position to defend, next week because they are attempting on two fronts to dis-establish democracy in the UK.
They are attacking it within the Labour Party. Habbabrief’s contempt for internal party democracy indicates the line they wlll take: the only Constituency Parties with large memberships should be disqualified because those members are ‘hard’ (or as we say, ‘real’) socialists. No doubt they will push for open primaries of the sort that served democracy so well in the US this spring.
But most notably they are fighting it in the form of the Brexit referendum. They have no intention of allowing the electorate to pull the country out of the EU and this will work to Labour’s advantage.
It is very likely that the Tories will re-unite quickly-at the top. But in doing so they will lose a great deal of their grassroots support which will be up for grabs. Much will go to UKIP, but more will be lost to apathy and some will go to Labour if Corbyn pursues the principled course of saying “The People have spoken. ”
It will be his “Speak for England” moment and, as in 1940 it will be voices from the Tory backbenches who will be urging him to do so.
It is at that point that Tory nerves will fail. They will enter into coalition talks- the SNP will reveal its true (predominantly blue) colours- and the Blairites will stampede to return to the government benches.
This will leave Corbyn with about 50 MPs -more than he has had with up till now- and an unassailable political position. The Council elections, every bye-election, will lead to Labour victories. There will be rallies and meetings regularly; the CLPs will expand again, as membership becomes a real participation in the political process, rather than an expensive Fan club for tone deaf celebrities.
Assuming no sudden urge to slash his wrists or disappear on long solo swims, leaving aside the likelihood of bloody car accidents, such as that which ended Mr Polanski’s cinematic tribute to Blairism, Corbyn will find himself the most popular politician in England and Wales, and perhaps Scotland too as Union ceases to imply Tory rule. And the 2020 general election will be a Labour landslide.
And that is probably why a General Election will not be long postponed . They will want to nip the resurrection of the Labour Party in the bud.
Happily their strategies are in the utterly incompetent hands of the Portland Group, the Fabians, the geniuses behind Blairism and Cameron’s recent debacle. With enemies like these, friends are just icing on the cake for the Corbynites.
What I can’t for the life of me understand is that the PLP have had a whole since their undemocratic, political suicidal coup. In that time they have yet to field a viable candidate (considering some have been planning this for 9 months) for a leadership challenge or found a solution to their playground bully tactics.
If Corbyn when’s a members vote again he will likely win, what would they do then- another vote of no confidence? Or change the rules so only certain members of the party can vote (much like they tried last time).
That should read *a whole week*
Whenever the next election, I’m sure we’d all be grateful if the Conservatives made efforts not to miscalculate their election expense returns. It’s a trivial and tedious matter I know in the scheme of things but getting little details like this right so re-assure me that the system isn’t criminally corrupt.
sorry Jake, it is and that is the end of a long string of manipulations by the main party politicians. Intimidation, cheating, bullying, its all present in the FPTP system.
One of the greatest fraud is done via postal votes. It is normal for Conservative councillors to print out the download from their local council and hand them out like sweeties. Especially to the elderly. Of those people enabled as such, many feel grateful that this nice man has shown them a way to vote from home, that they don’t have to go down to the ballot box.
They are automatically handed out to conservative voters. Millions were handed out for the Brexit vote and thats one of the reason why so many people , who changed their mind half way into the debate and wanted to change their vote, had already send their votes off, got over and done with….
Ireland has no postal vote, people who are disabled and can’t attend polling stations are visited on voting day and make their mark and post it into a ballot box, nobody is forgotten.
I’m not surprised why people are turned off by politics, it has been hijacked.
This is the sort of thing which helps build support for Brexit- increasing Defence budgets against an invisible enemy at a time when pensions are being cut and drugs to treat cancers are too expensive to purchase.
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/06/30/472891/EU-NATO-Mogherini-new-armed-force
The Labour Party fully embraces fratricide. Conservative politicians jockey for position. Plans are afoot to avoid implementing Brexit. Scottish Nationalists seek to leverage Brexit to advance the cause of independence and the EU seeks to move forward with or without the UK.
As most of the people involved in the foregoing are characterized by idleness, incompetence and corruption it is little surprise to see that they are all most probably looking in the wrong direction.
All their plans and all their scheming can all be blown out of the water at any moment. Deutsche Bank proud holder of “The worlds most systemically dangerous financial entity” is once again crashing back to record lows. Deutsche Bank along with its $57 trillion book of derivatives could explode (or implode if you prefer) at any moment,
Oh how wonderful the EU is to allow and foster the growth of such a toxic business. What a huge mistake not to vote in favor of this.
Loony
“The Labour Party fully embraces fratricide”
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As I have pointed out a couple of times very recently, that is correct but is nothing new.
I believe I wrote “think 1931, think the 1950s, think the 1970s, think the 1980s”
I am glad to note that you seem to agree with me.
Habb.
It was Edward Heath that remarked.
“I don’t often attack the Labour party, they do it so well themselves.”
Well remembered, RoS 🙂
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Which in turn reminds me of an on-topic anecdote from the post-war Atlee govt’s time (possibly apocryphal but still good): a friend of Ernest Bevin said to Bevin about another Labour politician (it may have been Herbert Morrison) “he’s his ow worst enemy”. In reponse to which Bevin is supposed ti have growled “not while I’m alive, he ain’t!”
Enjoy.
Touche. ?
The Brexit vote has shown us the disconnect between our elected representatives and the people. Politicians,Journalists and the BBC are no longer trusted. They have been exposed for the liars and manipulators of the truth that they are.
Nowwhere is this more evident than in the Labour Party where the attempted coup against Jeremy Corbyn by 178 Labour MPs’ is not reflected in the grassroots of the Party.
Jeremy Corbyn needs to clean house of the Blairites and their ilk and rebuild the Labour Party as a real social democratic opposition to the Tories
By supporting Remain the Labour Party missed their opportunity and have lost support to UKIP.
The Brexit vote has shown us the disconnect between our elected representatives and the people.
alas the connection in years has been via rape actuality of the innocents by the elm house dolphin sq zionist vampyre.
desperation in labour ranks for corbyn removal is all about the joke chilcott whitewash.
if corbers does not suffer boston breaks,fall off a scottish mountain or john smith heart attacked he will have much to say on liar blair war criminal friends of israel have tony and his back.
men with beards crack skull all the time in bath rooms then slip into coma.
corbyn needs to lay low for a few days avoid bedrooms,hotel rooms and bathrooms.
Mossad Murder in Dubai – Complete Timeline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8ajRErIOsc
how many natural deaths in bedrooms
Michael Clayton – Tracking Shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMG8SVrqstg
Also to avoid getting naked into sports bags.
I live in Wallasey. Angela Eagle’s constituency. I am giving serious thought to joining and becomng active in the Labour Party. Perhaps I, and others like me can make a difference. If enough people are angry enough, perhaps we can deselect her.
I encourage you to do so, Paul. Have you signed the petition calling on her to resign?
https://www.change.org/p/labour-party-angela-eagle-to-resign-as-member-of-parliament-for-wallasey
the eagle brothers are goddess and only want the best for israel and the empire of the city of london we do not want a local in out dispute to turn into an antisemetic rant or position do we.
What?
Here’s an inspiring photo to kick start Michael Gove’s election campaign!
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/27/gove-and-johnson-strike-a-pose-in-clean-for-the-queen-campaign#img-1
Boris Johnson has decided not to run for leader of the Tory party, and therefore has ruled himself out of running for PM. However Michael Gove, who was thought to be Johnson campaign manager is now running.
I also find it interesting that Michael Gove’s wife sent a e-mail that found its way into the public domain, that stated Rupert Murdoch didn’t particularlylike Johnson, and that Michael, wasn’t to trust Johnson unless a firm job offer was on the cards.
I find it quite remarkable that Johnson, one of the leading voices from the leave camp, is not in the runing to become PM. Maybe Johnson realses the magnitude of the task ahead, and feels he’s not up to it.
Elswhere Theresa May said on BBC news that her campaign slogan is “she’s the right person for the job.”
I don’t know. As I was saying yesterday, I can see how you’d expect that the popular uprising would hurt the pro-Remain Labour more than the mixed-view Tories, and I can see how a new Tory PM might make the same calculation, notwithstanding the polls. If a General Election resulted in the Tories getting a majority – any majority – while the opposition was evenly split between Labour and UKIP in England, plus the SNP in Scotland, etc., that would be a serious improvement over the position they’re in now.
Not to mention that a new PM might want to offload some unfriendly fellow Tories…
So, Grove is the Brexiteer, who is to fall on his sword ?
Makes sense. Very “Pro Leave”.
And isn’t really very “New Britain”. Even when amongst the “Eton Boyz”, he actually looks worse !
So, when this “Bretixt” fails, the (Leave) General Public will be wanting blood.
So, he gets sacrificed at the altar….
…..and enter (stage right) Boris “….with a yib, a yab and a yibber de dee”
I see the anti-semitism accusations have resurfaced. It makes Craig’s predictions look right.
Unless he was misquoted, it was a singularly stupid thing to say.
The next shoe to drop, after the issue has been put front and centre by Chilcot, is going to be the extremely hawkish Election campaign which Clinton is likely to be running throughout the Autumn.
The context is going to be the renewed war in Syria, the US and Turkey having cheated throughout the ‘ceasefire’ the Al Nusra forces are now not only re-equipped (6000 tons of new arms from the US) but under the command of Turkish officers in the field.
Clinton is going to be calling for a No Fly zone. And the Blairites will be too. Already Russia is being squeezed militarily, so is China. It maybe just a ‘game’ for electoral purposes but it is one that could easily spin out of control into a Sarajevo style crisis and will most certainly include the deaths of another 100,000 or so Syrians and Iraqis plus the uprooting of a million or more potential refugees. Add Libya to that and, in all probability, hundreds of thousands of Greeks fleeing north too.
The challenge to Corbyn and Labour is to push back against the warmongers and turn exit from the EU into exit from imperialist adventures at Washington’s passing whim.
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Theresa May was a supporting to remain on the EU….. How can she be the next prime minister ????
Billmon also says she supported the Iraq war. Is that true?
She said (or her “ad team” are saying) she was “border line” Remain.
A little bit pregnant and all that !