Fox, Gould, Werritty and Israel – Please write to your MP 998

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Now that Liam Fox is back in the Cabinet and Matthew Gould, ex-Ambassador to Israel, in in charge of Security in the Cabinet Office, it is essential to get answers to what happened in at least eight meetings between Adam Werritty and Gould at least some of which involved Mossad – as Cabinet Secretary Gus O’Donnell acknowledged to a parliamentary committee:

Hansard Public Administration Committee 24/11/2011

Q<369> Paul Flynn: Okay. Matthew Gould has been the subject of a very serious complaint from two of my constituents, Pippa Bartolotti and Joyce Giblin. When they were briefly imprisoned in Israel, they met the ambassador, and they strongly believe—it is nothing to do with this case at all—that he was serving the interest of the Israeli Government, and not the interests of two British citizens. This has been the subject of correspondence.

In your report, you suggest that there were two meetings between the ambassador and Werritty and Liam Fox. Questions and letters have proved that, in fact, six such meetings took place. There are a number of issues around this. I do not normally fall for conspiracy theories, but the ambassador has proclaimed himself to be a Zionist and he has previously served in Iran, in the service. Werritty is a self-proclaimed—

Robert Halfon: Point of order, Chairman. What is the point of this?

Paul Flynn: Let me get to it. Werritty is a self-proclaimed expert on Iran.

Chair: I have to take a point of order.

Robert Halfon: Mr Flynn is implying that the British ambassador to Israel is working for a foreign power, which is out of order.

Paul Flynn: I quote the Daily Mail: “Mr Werritty is a self-proclaimed expert on Iran and has made several visits. He has also met senior Israeli officials, leading to accusations”—not from me, from the Daily Mail—“that he was close to the country’s secret service, Mossad.” There may be nothing in that, but that appeared in a national newspaper.

Chair: I am going to rule on a point of order. Mr Flynn has made it clear that there may be nothing in these allegations, but it is important to have put it on the record. Be careful how you phrase questions.

Paul Flynn: Indeed. The two worst decisions taken by Parliament in my 25 years were the invasion of Iraq—joining Bush’s war in Iraq—and the invasion of Helmand province. We know now that there were things going on in the background while that built up to these mistakes. The charge in this case is that Werritty was the servant of neo-con people in America, who take an aggressive view on Iran. They want to foment a war in Iran in the same way as in the early years, there was another—

Chair: Order. I must ask you to move to a question that is relevant to the inquiry.

Q<370> Paul Flynn: Okay. The question is, are you satisfied that you missed out on the extra four meetings that took place, and does this not mean that those meetings should have been investigated because of the nature of Mr Werritty’s interests?

Sir Gus O’Donnell: I think if you look at some of those meetings, some people are referring to meetings that took place before the election.

Q<371> Paul Flynn: Indeed, which is even more worrying.

Sir Gus O’Donnell: I am afraid they were not the subject—what members of the Opposition do is not something that the Cabinet Secretary should look into. It is not relevant.

But these meetings were held—
Chair: Mr Flynn, would you let him answer please?

Sir Gus O’Donnell: I really do not think that was within my context, because they were not Ministers of the Government and what they were up to was not something I should get into at all.

Chair: Final question, Mr Flynn.

Q<372> Paul Flynn: No, it is not a final question. I am not going to be silenced by you, Chairman; I have important things to raise. I have stayed silent throughout this meeting so far.

You state in the report—on the meeting held between Gould, Fox and Werritty, on 6 February, in Tel Aviv—that there was a general discussion of international affairs over a private dinner with senior Israelis. The UK ambassador was present…

Sir Gus O’Donnell: The important point here was that, when the Secretary of State had that meeting, he had an official with him—namely, in this case, the ambassador. That is very important, and I should stress that I would expect our ambassador in Israel to have contact with Mossad. That will be part of his job. It is totally natural, and I do not think that you should infer anything from that about the individual’s biases.

Gus O’Donnell was being examined on his Cabinet Office report into the Fox/Werritty affair, which contained the blatant lie that Gould and Werritty had only met on two occasions. In fact they met eight times that we know for certain, with Gould’s role being:

1) 8 September 2009 as Miliband’s Principal Private Secretary (omitted from O’Donnell report)
2) 16 June 2010 as Hague’s Principal Private Secretary (omitted from O’Donnell report)
3) A “social occasion” in summer 2010 as Ambassador designate to Israel with Gould, Fox and Werritty (omitted from O’Donnell report)
4) 1 September 2010 in London (only one September meeting in O’Donnell report)
5) 27 September 2010 in London (only one September meeting in O’Donnell report)
6) 4-6 February 2011 Herzilya Conference Israel (omitted from O’Donnell report)
7) 6 February 2011 Tel Aviv dinner with Mossad and Israeli military
8) 15 May 2011 “We believe in Israel” conference London (omitted from O’Donnell report)

You can find full details here.

As O’Donnell states, some of the Werritty/Gould meetings happened when Fox and the Tories were not even in power. My own Freedom of Information request for all correspondence between Adam Werritty and Matthew Gould was denied as it would “breach the cost limit”. What is the purpose of the Freedom of Information Act if something as simple as correspondence between two named individuals is refused on grounds of cost.

Astonishingly, the request was denied within one hour of being submitted, and after 11pm!!!!! In reply to a further Freedom of Information Act request for minutes of the meetings between Gould and Werritty while Gould was Private Secretary to Hague and Miliband, the FCO quite literally sent me two blank pages with everything redacted except the date!!!

Various MP’s, including Jeremy Corbyn and Caroline Lucas, dragged out the information bit by bit, like drawing teeth.

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The media were by and large prepared to treat the Werritty/Fox scandal purely as sniggering homophobia. Only the Independent reported the actual story

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Fox’s resignation enabled the media to bury the real scandal, which was Israeli government influence on both Red and Blue Tories.

I therefore request everybody who reads this to write to their MP and ask them to find the following information. Here is a draft you may utilise, but the more you customise it the better:

Dear ……..,

I am concerned about unresolved questions from the Adam Werritty affair, and I should be grateful if you could discover the following information for me.

1) On how many occasions did Cabinet Office official Matthew Gould meet with Mr Adam Werritty, either
a) in a personal capacity
b) in an official capacity

2) Who else was present on each occasion?
3) What was discussed on each occasion?

I have been informed of at least eight such meetings which have been collected together from parliamentary questions and FOIA requests. I am concerned that only two of these meetings was detailed in the Cabinet Secretary’s report into the Adam Werritty affair.

1) 8 September 2009 as Miliband’s Principal Private Secretary (omitted from O’Donnell report)
2) 16 June 2010 as Hague’s Principal Private Secretary (omitted from O’Donnell report)
3) A “social occasion” in summer 2010 as Ambassador designate to Israel with Gould, Fox and Werritty (omitted from O’Donnell report)
4) 1 September 2010 in London (only one September meeting in O’Donnell report)
5) 27 September 2010 in London (only one September meeting in O’Donnell report)
6) 4-6 February 2011 Herzilya Conference Israel (omitted from O’Donnell report)
7) 6 February 2011 Tel Aviv dinner with Mossad and Israeli military
8) 15 May 2011 “We believe in Israel” conference London (omitted from O’Donnell report)

Can you discover why so many of these meetings were omitted from the O’Donnell report?

I should be most grateful for your assistance.

Yours faithfully,

You can write to your MP via this website , though I awlays prefer to send a physical letter to the House of Commons. I should be most grateful for your assistance in doing this, and in spreading this appeal around by social media.

It is to me disgusting that a politician so thoroughly disgraced as Liam Fox should be back in power. Answers were blanked on the actual purpose of the Werritty connection, and I think collectively we should try to do something about that.

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  • RobG

    South Koreans have also had enough of this shit…

    http://www.minplus.or.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=736

    ‘THAAD’ stands for ‘Terminal High Altitude Area Defense’ and is supposedly an anti-ballistic missile system…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_High_Altitude_Area_Defense

    … but because of the missiles it employs it can easily be turned into an offensive missile system capable of delivering nuclear warheads.

    A similar system is presently being deployed in Romania and Poland…

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-europe-shield-idUSKCN0YI2ER

    … right on Russia’s borders (how would the Americans react if Russia based missiles in Canada and Mexico?).

    The totally batshit crazies in Washington are taking us to World War Three, and the Queen of batshit crazies is about to become the next US president.

    If you’re still alive, I’ll see you in the smoking, radioactive ruins of our once beautiful planet…

    • MJ

      “how would the Americans react if Russia based missiles in Canada and Mexico?”

      Or Cuba.

      • lysias

        The evidence that has come out about the Cuban Missile Crisis in the years after makes it clear that JFK would have greatly preferred not to take any military steps against the Russian missiles on Cuba but felt politically obliged to do something. Robert Kennedy told his Russian contact that otherwise JFK might be overthrown in a military coup. And discussions between JFK and others make it clear that he feared being impeached if he did not act.

        They all knew that the Russian missiles in Cuba did not affect the military balance much, that in any case Russia would soon have intercontinental ballistic missiles and submarine-based missiles that could hit the U.S. But it was not military matters that dictated the U.S. reaction

    • michael norton

      ROS good video.
      2/3 of recent immigrants into Germany are effectively unable to read in their own language.
      Most are unemployable.

      not “much” chance of Angela’s notion coming good, anytime soon.

  • ZUp

    Multiple identified sources for US training its Ukrainian Nazi snipers in Poland. Probative evidence of US coercive foreign interference in breach of peremptory norms of international law.

    http://orientalreview.org/2014/04/17/proof-of-polands-participation-in-the-ukrainian-pandemonium/

    http://newswire.net/newsroom/news/00088466-maidan-snipers-trained-in-poland-as-a-favor-to-us-polish-politician-claims.html

    rt.com/news/estonia-confirm-leaked-tape-970/

    After Russia routs NATO in the war they can suss it out in their new winter palace at Nuremberg 2.0.

  • YouKnowMyName

    He felt poor at school?

    Really! Is that an excuse for many ‘killings’?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/the-killing-of-tony-blair-film-review-george-galloway-clare-short-stephen-fry-citizen-kane-iraq-war-a7155326.html
    Blair may be just a “symptom,” but that doesn’t stop Galloway from holding him personally responsible for the “near killing of the Labour party,” the “killing of Iraq” and for making a “huge financial killing” since he left office. Galloway even blames him for the emergence of Isis.

  • bevin

    Talking of ‘useful idiots’ and the the US election here is a link to the Moon of Alabama’s take on the media.
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/07/how-clinton-and-her-shallow-brained-media-do-trumps-bidding.html#more

    And here is an interview with Assange on the idiotic but not very useful Clintonite nonsense that the DNC was hacked by Russia
    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/36965-wikileaks-julian-assange-on-releasing-dnc-emails-that-ousted-debbie-wasserman-schultz

  • michael norton

    France is so deep in the merde, they would be advised to draw in public debt and sack hundreds of thousands of people on
    the public payroll. I do not know why the high-ups running the European Empire
    let the French get away with having their public debt out of control?
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-edf-britain-nuclear-idUKKCN1051XH
    The EDF works council has initiated new legal action to delay the French utility’s decision about its 18 billion pound Hinkley Point nuclear project in Britain but the court will not rule before a board meeting on Thursday.

    EDF has called a board meeting for July 28 that will consider a final investment decision, which unions want to delay as they consider EDF’s finances too stretched to take on a project of this magnitude.

    EDF works council secretary Jean-Luc Magnaval told Reuters the council had filed a complaint with a Paris court, which has scheduled a hearing on the case for Aug. 2.

    “We demand a suspension of the decision,” Magnaval said.

    The works council had already filed a separate procedure to force the utility to release confidential documents about the project.

    EDF, which concluded a consultation procedure with the works council earlier this month, declined to comment.

    • michael norton

      If EDF had their feet held to the fire they would scream that idiot Hollande made us agree against our better judgement.

    • Tony M

      Discredited Friedmanite reasoning I’m afraid Micheal, is it yours or is it from Reuters? Please indicate what is comment and what is regurgitation of some other crank’s uninformed musings, get your attributions sorted. Public spending acts as a multiplier for an economy, it doesn’t compete either for capital, which for a sovereign country is a limitless resource, there is no such thing as public debt, the public can’t owe themselves future tax takes from themselves or their descendants, nor does public spending compete for labour in times of anything other than full employment.

      • Habbabkuk

        Public spending doesn’t compete for capital?

        Ever heard of crowding-out?

        You’re on track for a Nobel Prize if you come out with many more similar statements 🙂

  • michael norton

    The French government hit back on Monday at accusations by a policewoman that the interior ministry had pressured her to change a report into security at the Bastille Day massacre in Nice.

    The allegations came amid widespread anger at the government over alleged policing failures during the festivities in Nice, where 84 people were killed after Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel ploughed a 19-tonne truck into revelers gathered to watch fireworks on the city’s famed Promenade des Anglais.

    Policewoman Sandra Bertin, who is in charge of Nice’s video surveillance network, said she was “harassed” by an interior ministry representative to report that national police had been deployed at two different points at the celebration, in addition to local police forces.

    “The national police were perhaps there, but I couldn’t see them on the video,” Bertin told French weekly the Journal du Dimanche in an interview published on Sunday.

    Bertin’s claims echoed remarks by conservative regional president and former Nice mayor Christian Estrosi, who has accused the government of lying about security at the time of the attack.

    Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve, however, immediately rejected the allegations, saying he would sue for defamation.

    Prime Minister Manuel Valls backed Cazeneuve, describing the scandal as a “political polemic aimed at destabilising the government”
    http://www.france24.com/en/20160725-french-government-hits-back-nice-security-allegations

    It would seem the French Minister of the Interior and the French Prime Minister are a trifle rattled,
    maybe they could offer reasoning as to why Nice was told to destroy footage from cctv?

    • Alan

      Thanks Alcyone,

      “One of the worst things about clinical depression is its cruel circularity. Feeling lousy smothers motivation; loss of motivation leads to inactivity; inactivity makes depression worse—and on and on. There are an awful lot of people caught in that terrible spiral:”

      Too right! I need to motivate myself to make a pot of coffee right now, but is it worth the effort?

      • Alcyone

        Welcome Alan.

        As for the coffee, That could well depend on how good, aromatic your coffee is? And how you make it. I am fortunate to have a lovely cafe close by that does some of the best coffee in London. It comes from an East End roastery that does directly-sourced artisanal coffee roasted daily.

        I think the Italian macchinettas are probably one of the best for making a good coffee at home.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moka_pot

        Enjoy your libation, whatever it is and squeeze the most out of Life. It is not a bitch, though it can i accept certainly appear that way. More on that if you are interested, later. Life is a gift but what a sick society we have made for ourselves.

      • Alcyone

        “Krishnamurti. Oh dear. Who next: Madam Blavatsky?”

        You, my dear friend. You, yourself. 🙂

        (Blavatsky was before, not after. Since you put yourself out as being highly ‘knowledgable, I thought you would have known this elementary fact.)

        • MJ

          My understanding is that Krishnamurti was discovered and thrust upon an unsuspecting world by the Theosophical Society, which was founded by Madam Blavatsky. Look it up.

          • Alcyone

            I don’t need to look it up MJ, thank you very much. I know my history on the subject.

            Look yourself up, have you? I am very suspicious of your ‘knowledge’ and ‘understanding’, and even more suspicious if you know who you are, know your self. Do you?

          • MJ

            If you don’t need to look it up then my original comment should have been perfectly clear.

          • Jim

            Just from memory, I remember reading Sean O’ Casey’s autobiography decades ago. He was pretty merciless in taking the piss out of George Russell (‘A.E.’) and Yeats, who were all in thrall to La Blavatsky’s theosophical BS. Very funny.

          • Alcyone

            MJ, you didn’t answer my questions:

            “Look yourself up, have you? I am very suspicious of your ‘knowledge’ and ‘understanding’, and even more suspicious if you know who you are, know your self. Do you?”

            You seem to have a problem with Krishnamurti. K was his own man and he separated himself totally from the Theosophical Society when he was quite young and even returned every property and donation made to The Star of the East which had been set up for him by the Society.

            What precisely is your issue with Krishnamurti and his ‘teachings’? I submit that K was the Einstein of the Mind. One of the wisest human beings to walk this planet in modern times.

            Despite your proclaimed ‘understanding’, you don’t seem to have read much of his work. Start here:
            http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/index.php

            His one-page biography is here:
            http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/about-krishnamurti/biography.php

            And a further page of “The Core of the Teachings
            Written by Krishnamurti in 1980 at the request of his biographer Mary Lutyens.” here:
            http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/about-krishnamurti/the-core-of-the-teachings.php

            Come back when you’ve better educated yourself and enhanced your ‘understanding’.

          • Alcyone

            “Jiddu Krishnamurti was born on 11 May 1895 in Madanapalle, a small town in south India. He and his brother were adopted in their youth by Dr Annie Besant, then president of the Theosophical Society. Dr Besant and others proclaimed that Krishnamurti was to be a world teacher whose coming the Theosophists had predicted. To prepare the world for this coming, a world-wide organization called the Order of the Star in the East was formed and the young Krishnamurti was made its head.

            In 1929, however, Krishnamurti renounced the role that he was expected to play, dissolved the Order with its huge following, and returned all the money and property that had been donated for this work.

            From then, for nearly sixty years until his death on 17 February 1986, he travelled throughout the world talking to large audiences and to individuals about the need for a radical change in mankind. ”

            I wouldn’t confuse Krishnamurti With Blavatsky for a second.
            http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/about-krishnamurti/biography.php

      • Alcyone

        MJ, you didn’t answer my questions:

        “Look yourself up, have you? I am very suspicious of your ‘knowledge’ and ‘understanding’, and even more suspicious if you know who you are, know your self. Do you?”

        You seem to have a problem with Krishnamurti. K was his own man and he separated himself totally from the Theosophical Society when he was quite young and even returned every property and donation made to The Star of the East which had been set up for him by the Society.

        What precisely is your issue with Krishnamurti and his ‘teachings’? I submit that K was the Einstein of the Mind. One of the wisest human beings to walk this planet in modern times.

        Despite your proclaimed ‘understanding’, you don’t seem to have read much of his work. Start here:
        http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/index.php

        His one-page biography is here:
        http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/about-krishnamurti/biography.php

        And a further page of “The Core of the Teachings
        Written by Krishnamurti in 1980 at the request of his biographer Mary Lutyens.” here:
        http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/about-krishnamurti/the-core-of-the-teachings.php

        Come back when you’ve better educated yourself and enhanced your ‘understanding’.

        • Alcyone

          Ingo, your link doesn’t work and you are at any rate a malicious liar. Anyway, as Craig repeatedly states, tackle the content, not the man. The ball, not the player. Here’s a summary of Krishnamurti’s work, extracted from wikipedia:

          “Krishnamurti called for a radical revolution in the inward psychological makeup of man, claiming it to be the only way to eradicate conflict and suffering in the world, which he saw as absolutely necessary. He described the establishment of ‘total’ psychological order, which would also bring order outwardly in all walks of life. To this end he enquired deeply into the causes of psychological conflict and disorder. His talks largely dealt with the deeper problems of fear, desire and ‘becoming’, to which he associated the fallacy of psychological time. He also pointed out that a verbal understanding of his teaching was insufficient for change and that words and images acted as barriers against direct inward observation. As a result of this perceived need for immediacy in learning, Krishnamurti wrote comparatively little and his published works are largely transcribed from recorded public talks, many of which are available online. However the following summary of his teaching was written by Krishnamurti in 1980 at the request of his biographer Mary Lutyens:

          “The core of Krishnamurti’s teaching is contained in the statement he made in 1929 when he said ‘Truth is a pathless land’. Man cannot come to it through any organization, through any creed, through any dogma, priest or ritual, not through any philosophical knowledge or psychological technique. He has to find it through the mirror of relationship, through the understanding of the contents of his own mind, through observation and not through intellectual analysis or introspective dissection. Man has built in himself images as a fence of security — religious, political, personal. These manifest as symbols, ideas, beliefs. The burden of these dominate man’s thinking, relationships and daily life. These are the causes of our problems for they divide man from man in every relationship. His perception of life is shaped by the concepts already established in his mind. The content of his consciousness is this consciousness. This content is common to all humanity. The individuality is the name, the form and superficial culture he acquires from his environment. The uniqueness of the individual does not lie in the superficial but in the total freedom from the content of consciousness.

          Freedom is not a reaction; freedom is not choice. It is man’s pretence that because he has choice he is free. Freedom is pure observation without direction, without fear of punishment and reward. Freedom is without motive; freedom is not at the end of the evolution of man but lies in the first step of his existence. In observation one begins to discover the lack of freedom. Freedom is found in the choiceless awareness of our daily existence.

          Thought is time. Thought is born of experience, of knowledge, which are inseparable from time. Time is the psychological enemy of man. Our action is based on knowledge and therefore time, so man is always a slave to the past.

          When man becomes aware of the movement of his own consciousness he will see the division between the thinker and the thought, the observer and the observed, the experiencer and the experience. He will discover that this division is an illusion. Then only is there pure observation which is insight without any shadow of the past. This timeless insight brings about a deep radical change in the mind.

          Total negation is the essence of the positive. When there is negation of all those things which are not love – desire, pleasure – then love is, with its compassion and intelligence.”
          — J. Krishnamurti, The Core of the Teaching, October 1980

          Go right ahead and crique it if you have any grey cells.

    • Alcyone

      Thanks Alan. I think equally interesting is the legal review that some families of ex-servicemen are initiating of the Chilcot report. That may well lead to a meaningful, viable case in the courts. Life is long and I hope it proves to be a real bitch for our deeply religious Tony.

  • Alcyone

    Give us back our Democracy Say Labour Members:

    ” Fast facts
    The National Executive Committee of the Labour Party has decided to exclude members of the party who joined after January 12th 2016 from voting in the forthcoming leadership election.
    That means 130,000 dedicated members of the Labour Party are being disenfranchised.
    Harrison Grant, a firm of solicitors, has agreed to take on our case.”

    Appears to be a worthy cause:
    https://www.crowdjustice.co.uk/case/labour-party-membership/

  • nevermind

    More nice words, but not a single solution from Anon.
    “You and your Mutti are a fucking threat to Europe.”

    This off course follows after he first discovered his brexit elevated balls from some days before ” why don’t you go back to Mutti”.

    That phrase so often used against any immigrants to this country, past, present, and listening to his cockyness the first, very likely in future.

    get this into your head mushroom 1, I am not a ‘Mutti’ supporter and your ‘fucking threat’ allegation against me, by implication in your rabid sentence, angry boy, I want you to take back.

    Its fucking threatening language like yours which leads to harassment against EU citizens here, you are a discord monger and a threat to the security of this country.

    • Alan

      Sorry for asking stupid questions, but surely “Mutti” is German for “Mum”? Is there some other meaning I don’t know about?

        • Anon1

          Your ideas about allowing the entire world to come and settle here are a fucking threat to Europe.

        • Alcyone

          Nevermind, one thing you are not is a threat to the continuation of Infinite Stupidity!

        • nevermind

          ‘you are a fucking security threat to this country Anon1’

          She is not ‘meine Mutti’ and what you call endearing has long past. I defend her humanity and thats it.

  • David

    I apologise for being off topic, but this matter is desperately urgent.

    Lindesay Sandiford is a British woman, sentenced to death, for importing cocaine into Indonesia. There was some astonishment at the sentence of death because it had not been called for by the prosecution. I think that all the appeals procedures have now been exhausted, and ominously, the Indonesian government have, according to the Guardian, indicated that they are about to resume executions of those held on Death Row. Whilst I am sure that the Foreign Office has been involved as this tragic case has unfolded, in my view, an urgent effort is required by our Government to ensure that this woman is reprieved. I am not trying to minimise her offence, although heaven knows that the taking of cocaine in the UK seems no longer to be a big deal, does it? Neither am I suggesting that having broken the laws of Indonesia, she should go unpunished. But to me, the death penalty is the very essence of barbarianism. Simply put it is just murder. Life is sacrosanct, or it should be, and if we lower ourselves below that ideal, how can we ever seriously act to make unacceptable the violence and war which are engulfing the world?

    Please find it in your heart to have compassion for this poor woman, probably no more a sinner than the rest of us, who is going through an unspeakable ordeal, with probably an unspeakable end, and support this petition:-

    Click this link to sign the petition:
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/162973/sponsors/03GX6lT2jSj9nzVFhEKe

    My petition:

    Intervene NOW with the Government of Indonesia to reprieve Lindsay SandIford

    The severity of the sentence was greeted with shock because prosecutors had not recommended the death penalty for Sandiford. The ruling was also condemned by the British government and anti–death penalty campaigners. It’s also contrary to International Law, which we should uphold and enforce!

    Guardian articles , 28 April 2016,and 14 June 2016. Wickipaedia entry “Linsay Sandiford. Numerous other press reports in all reputable newspapers and international media

    • Node

      I clicked the link but was greeted by this message from UK Government and Parliament:

      We’re checking this petition
      5 people have already supported David Bernard Rawlings’s petition.
      We need to check it meets the petition standards before we publish it.
      Please try again in a few days.

        • David

          Thank you both for trying. I will see what I can find out about the link. I am hope more people will find it in their hearts to do show compassion for this lady.

          • Node

            Upon investigation elsewhere on the same website, it looks like this is a routine measure that all petitions have to go through :

            How petitions work

            1. You create a petition. Only British citizens and UK residents can create or sign a petition.
            2. You get 5 people to support your petition. We’ll tell you how to do this when you’ve created your petition.
            3. We check your petition, then publish it. We only reject petitions that don’t meet the standards for petitions.
            4. The Petitions Committee reviews all petitions we publish. They select petitions of interest to find out more about the issues raised. They have the power to press for action from government or Parliament.
            5. At 10,000 signatures you get a response from the government.
            6. At 100,000 signatures your petition will be considered for a debate in Parliament.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Nothing about the latest madness over here – the leaking of the DNC’s campaign to make sure Bernie never becomes POTUS.

    Of course, the cover up has all the indications that Hillary is behind it since it is blamed on Putin who she claimed in her book is a power.hungry maniac who will stop at nothing.

    If Putin knew that the Democrats could be so stupid, he might have hscked it as leaders have interfered in the politics of other countries for far less, but it just seems like a convenient attempt at a helpful cover up.

    Sure that there are leakers in the DNC, like strong Sanders supporters, who would leak the information, once they knew.

  • Alan

    Habbabkuk said on July 26, 2016 at 10:32

    “I bet Stalin shat his pants when he was first informed of the success of the Manhattan project.”

    LOL I thought you would know about this stuff. “We”, as in the British, sent some scientists over there to help with the project, including one Klaus Fuchs, a committed communist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Fuchs

    Stalin knew all about the Manhattan project

    • Trowbridge H. Ford

      Stalin knew about the Anglo-American scientists going ahead with the Manhattan Project, thanks to the spying by Soviet agent “K’ aka Peter Wright who later took over its counter intelligence in MI5.

      Stalin was almost shitting his pants at the end of WWII, worried that Washington would drop its atomic bombs on the USSR.

      He was most relieved when Truman told him that they would be dropped on Japan.

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        I really suggest that posters read David Holloway’s Stalin and the Bomb which shows that the Soviet leader found out about the West going ahead with making the bomb while it was desperately trying to stop the sinking of its aid ships which Peter Wright was the developing by demagnetizing ships. (p. 75)

        He was the only person on the inside of both programs.

        Interesting that Christopher Andrew got round who ‘K’ was by conflating him with his handler,Vladimir Bukovsky in his history of the KGB ( p., 693)

        Little wonder that Andrew was given the task of writing the official history of MI5!

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    • Ba'al Zevul

      Your saying so don’t make it so, as many here recognise. However, I call irrelevant ad hominem, and if the mods choose to take the appropriate action, that’s cool too.

  • michael norton

    The Lovely Suzanne Evans gives up all hope of UKIP leadership bid
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36892561

    UKIP ex-deputy chairwoman Suzanne Evans says she has given up hope of becoming the party’s next leader – but insists she will not “give up” on UKIP.

    Ms Evans, who is currently suspended from UKIP, said she would “very much like” to run but a “handful of people at the top” had ensured she could not.

    Ms Evans’ six-month ban for bringing the party into disrepute – claims she has dismissed – means she cannot stand.

    She said she would back councillor Lisa Duffy to succeed Nigel Farage.

    Ms Evans said UKIP needed to “break free of its hard-right image and set itself firmly in the common sense centre-ground” and also conduct some “internal reform”.

    Shades of NuLabour Party Politicking?

  • michael norton

    After criticisms of police shortcomings over the Nice attack on 14 July, French anti-terrorist police moved with commendable speed to close down this hostage situation in a Norman church.
    ROP
    Observers have pointed out that FRANCE and other countries are now moving more quickly towards what is called tactical intervention – overwhelming armed force aimed at minimising the period during which terrorists or armed criminals can threaten the public.

    The selection of a church by the attackers, whom IS refer to as its “soldiers”, crosses a new red line in the grim history of recent attacks on continental Europe. The murder of a defenceless 84-year-old priest in this attack will have further inflamed public opinion.

    News that one of the attackers was on the French government’s terror watch-list, known as the S list, will prompt many to question its purpose if he can remain at large to carry a knife into a church.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36892785

    So The FRENCH are not going to mess about any longer after twenty months of Horror, they will now be shooting to kill first.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    I shall now repost the link to the newly-rediscovered Adam Werritty – central to this thread’s topic, of course – in the event of an accident happening to my first attempt.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3693749/Fox-celebrates-bubbly-old-pal-New-Trade-Secretary-attends-party-ex-associate-linked-previous-downfall.html

    New International Trade Secretary Liam Fox celebrated his government comeback at a Commons champagne party attended by the friend and former associate linked to his previous Cabinet downfall.

    Dr Fox and Adam Werritty were among a noisy group who downed eight bottles of bubbly on the Commons terrace, with at least one cork being popped into the River Thames.

    The event took place within an hour of Dr Fox, 54, being given a key Brexit role in Theresa May’s new Cabinet.

    • Republicofscotland

      Well Trowbridge here’s more info to confuse and muddle.

      A Turkish newspaper claims retired US Army General John F. Campbell, was behind the coup.

      According to Yeni Safak, Campbell “also managed more than $2 billion in transactions via UBA Bank in Nigeria by using CIA links to distribute among the pro-coup military personnel in Turkey.”

      Of course it could be a ruse by Erdogan, the psper is a staunch ally, Erdogan may be hoping that the US will hand over Gulen, to appease Erdogan.

      The US does need Turkey well the base at Incirlik anyway to fly the opium from Afghanistan into Europe.

      • Ba'al Zevul

        Yeni Şafak is pretty well Erdoğan’s company magazine. Campbell has since 2009 been the acting director of the Office of the Historian in the State Department. He was previously (to 2007) US Ambassador to Nigeria. On the face of it he seems to be a pretty unlikely financier for the Turkish coup. I can’t find any prior connection with Turkey. But the report seems to give the pro-Russian outlets a lot of pleasure. And it gives Erdoğan a bogeyman to blame for something, at the very least, he knew was coming and had prepared for.

        We might ask, also, how much money a miltary takeover actually requires. It doesn’t have to buy arms or secure comms – it just draws them from stores or breaks into the armoury. The planes are sitting on the runway. Another problem occurs when you look at this from the US POV. The last thing the US needs is an unstable Turkey. Remember Gülen is an Islamist as much as Erdoğan is. And remind yourself that Erdoğan is a strongman: Turkey after a coup would inevitably fragment into warring factions: the coup didn’t have even a majority of the military behind it, and if Gülen was the mastermind, he’d be eaten alive by other contenders for the throne. He’s in his 80’s and politically naive. Certainly Erdoğan is far from the ideal democracy-and-apple-pie global market man the US would like to boost its influence and buffer the ME against Russia, but he’s the only one in sight who can keep the Turkish act together for now. So it would make considerably more sense to assume that the US was keeping its NATO ally’s government informed as to developments on the coup front. And to assume that implicating the Yanks is simply a smokescreen. There are other possibilities, true, but taking Erdoğan at face value probably isn’t one of them.

        But then, I’ve got a dirty mind.

  • michael norton

    Juncker the Ostrich
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/25/juncker-vows-eu-open-borders-always/
    Juncker: No Matter How Bad Migrant Crisis, Terrorism Gets, We’ll Never Give Up On Open Borders!!!!!!

    Jean-Claude Juncker
    has vowed that no matter how bad terrorism or the migrant crisis gets, the European Empire will never give up on open borders.

    I can’t understand how these twerps can continue to think it is business as normal,
    how many terrorist attacks over two years do they need before open borders become closed borders?

  • Manda

    A tweet by Craig, on point, like your blog which is one of the few sanctuaries from the madness in corporate media..

    “I was called “unpatriotic” by FCO line manager for protesting about UK collusion in torture. Owen Smith can stuff his patriotism test.”
    https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/757936085871824896

    Hear hear! Who bothers to read his ramblings anymore? I bailed out months ago, too much of it stomach churning.

  • Ben Monad

    Jaysus h. How many times can the same message be repeated?

    Apparently well beyond 700.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Feel obliged to return as the EK514 crash looks just like the one of Aisiana Flight 214 at SFO which was caused by firing a hand-held laser from one of the cabin toilets.

    It’s becoming the best way to bring down airliners.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    If the crash of EK524 was an act of sabotage, the most likely suspects would be right-wing Hindus who hate the liberal Kerala state whose followers eat meat, and work in large numbers in the UAE.

    If the crash had killed all the passengers, survivors in Kerala would think twice about doing so.

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