The Dysfunctional United Kingdom 2388


Recently an Angus mother of three infant children was separated from them and jailed for ten months for over-claiming £10,000 per year in benefits. Meanwhile the Duke of Westminster evades £3.6 billion in inheritance tax through a transparently fraudulent use of trusts which “have the option” to give the money to someone else instead.

The United Kingdom is a socially backward and sometimes vicious polity, an island which prides itself on the state enforced conservatism which allowed it to evade intellectually motivated reform and retain a historical legacy of gross injustice and privilege.

For historical reasons land reform is an immensely popular cause in Scotland, and one of so many areas where SNP timidity is a deep, deep disappointment. The fact that they are covered in buildings does not make the vast London estates of the Grosvenors any more acceptable than the unnecessarily empty Highland estates where golden eagles are destroyed so the chinless wonders, hedge fund managers and sheikhs can blast away at tame grouse.

The late Duke of Westminster is characterised as a “philanthropist” by mainstream media even though the percentage of both his income and his wealth he gave to charity was less than most ordinary people’s mite, myself included, and I am willing to bet that what he did do, was tax-deductible. That a parasite who sat on £9 billion of unearned money in a country where disabled people commit suicide from poverty, and who got two O levels from Harrow, was Prince Charles’ closest friend, cuts through the lying propaganda about the Royal family we are constantly fed.

The political class have a deliberate will not to enforce inheritance tax on the super wealthy. They have a political will not to tackle landlordism, which as it affects both residential and commercial tenants is a fundamental malaise of the British economy. Neither problem is technically difficult. The problem is that the political class as a whole are in the pockets of the super-wealthy, promote their interests and ache to join them.

Which is why in the UK it is important that the threat to them posed by Corbyn is maintained, and why in Scotland it is essential that the SNP membership now push their own leadership into bold action on fundamental land reform and Independence. To call the current SNP approach to both issues desultory would be excessively polite.

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  • bevin

    I asked Anon 1 to explain his often repeated assertion that ‘to live on benefits in the UK is to be among the 1% of richest people on earth.’

    His reply is thus:
    “Anon1
    August 18, 2016 at 07:28
    So poverty is relative. In this country we have obese people visiting food banks.

    “No I know well what things are like in “foreign parts”. I have a lot of of experience of real poverty I doubt you have seen the like of. You wouldn’t know “austerity” if it bit you in the fucking arse.”

    In other words he confesses that his assertion is inaccurate. That he is lying.

    I am unsure whether this means that he will stop repeating this claim, which is an insult to our intelligence and a libel on humanity. But it should do.
    As to the silly insults contained in the latter part of his ‘reply’, the interesting thing about them is that they are obviously based on nothing in the way of evidence at all. Anon 1 knows nothing about me, where I live, how old I am, what I do, where I have come from and where I am going: neither praise nor insults from him are worth anything. He writes from ignorance, without shame. His views should be discounted as those of an amateur ideologist, full of shit, sounding off like a flatulent animal.

  • Doug Scorgie

    Anon1
    August 17, 2016 at 19:51

    LOL. It’ll never happen. The little Bravehearts simply don’t have the balls to vote for their independence in the same way the UK did.
    ……………………………………………………………………………….

    I don’t think it will happen either but it will be nothing to do with Scottish voter’s balls (or ovaries) but rather a compromise between Theresa May and Nicola Sturgeon i.e. devolution max.

    I also suspect that Brexit will not happen.

    • Habbabkuk

      For once, Mr Siorgie, I’m inclined to agree with you (last sentence).

      What would you feel about that (ie, Brexit not happening)?

  • Republicofscotland

    An interesting article on Caroline Elkins, and her book Britain’s Gulag, which chronicles the savagery and violence perpetrated by the British on the Mau Mau of Kenya.

    Elkins tells us how she discovered top secret documents that showed over 300,000 men women and children were detained in British Gulags in Kenya.

    Elkins received terrible abuse over the claims in her book, unlike Niall Ferguson, who writes warm and fuzzy books on how British colonialism, was a good thing.

    The article points to a cover up, over the treatment of the Mau Mau by the British forces in Kenya.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/aug/18/uncovering-truth-british-empire-caroline-elkins-mau-mau

    • bevin

      It is not insignificant that Ferguson was born in Kenya. He must have imbibed the White Highlander’s ideology with his respected mother’s milk.

    • Loony

      Ah The Guardian – only 57 years late in its reporting.

      Enoch Powell nailed this in a House of Commons speech in 1959.

      • Habbabkuk

        Actually, Loony, if you’re referring to the Hola camp killings – indeed a terrible event – then that has been public knowledge for quite a while and certainly for a long time before the 57 years/Guardian you’re sneering about.

        When you think about it, it has been public knowledge since at least the speech by Enoch Powell to which you yourself refer.

        But I do understand that you probably weren’t even a glint in your father’s eye in 1959…….

    • Habbabkuk

      Well, the Mau Mau were hardly angels either, were they.

      But it is true that Mau Mau terrorists killed very, very many more black Kenyans than white ones – mostly black Kenyans who refused to join the Mau Mau movement.

      And, of course, it is also true that yesterday’s terrorists are often perceived, decades afterwards, as noble freedom fighters.

      I do hope that various “commenters” here will remember that next time they mention the King David Hotel.

      • Republicofscotland

        “Well, the Mau Mau were hardly angels either, were they.”

        __________

        Habb.

        Oh well that makes it alright then, why didn’t I think of that explanation. I suppose going by your logic, we could apply that to other British colonies, such as the extinction of the indigenous Tasmanian folk by the British, those Tazzy were getting just a bit to rowdy for there own good.

        https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/the-tasmanian-genocide/

        I suppose the terrible handling of the Boer’s was all their own making, I mean if only those bloody Boer’s would’ve vacated their diamond rich lands, when the British told them to, there would’ve been no reason to put them in concentration camps where many died of disease and hunger.

        We hear a lot of anger and sorrow from quarters, and rightly so about those that were rounded up and put in concentration camps, more recently, yet I’d imagine the Boer’s suffered greatly at the hands of their oppressors, just as those who suffered greatly at the hands of a German madman and his henchmen.

        Do please try and think before trying to justify colonialism.

        • Habbabkuk

          And, by the way, RoS, to equate the Hola camp (and other detention camps) with the Soviet GuLag is rather silly, wouldn’t you agree?

          It is about as silly as comparing Israel’s actions in the Est Bank and Gaza to the Nazi Holocaust, wouldn’t you agree?

      • Alan

        “I do hope that various “commenters” here will remember that next time they mention the King David Hotel.”

        Let us never forget the atrocity committed at the King David Hotel.

        • Habbabkuk

          I’m sure that there’s no risk of that, Alan, as long as you and your fellows are drawing breath 🙂

          • Alan

            Do you think they will reopen The H Blocks to keep Islamic prisoners in?

            I haven’t got any fellows; I am unique, “The One and Only”.

    • nevermind

      Thanks for the reminder RoS, another stark reminder why Osborne walked out of negotiations to regulate these tax havens UNDER BRITISH JURISDICTION. With that I’m saying that the judiciary who well knows about this crass hypocrisy, is part and patrcel of it, very likely getting preferential treatment throughout these isles.

      The only positive thought is that in a few hundred years they become virtual tax havens, under the waves.
      The depositors in these so sceptred isles are the ones who are especially scared that the status quo will fall under JC, and that their perfidious hoarding of stale money might come to an end.

      what then!

  • RobG

    With regard to what Habba said on the previous page…

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/08/dysfunctional-united-kingdom/comment-page-7/#comment-619447

    … about my ‘musings’ that terror attacks like the one that occurred in Nice aren’t real, last month was the 15th birthday of Media Lens. It’s founders, David Cromwell and David Edwards, said this in a fundraising editorial…

    “We began Media Lens, not because we believed high quality broadsheets were offset by a morally debased tabloid press; not because the ‘left-leaning’ liberal press was fine, but the Tory press was dreadful; not because the press as a whole was biased on some issues, or plagued by ‘churnalism’. We started Media Lens because the deeper we looked into almost every issue, the more we found that the truth of corporate media performance was actually breath-taking, jaw-dropping, sci-fi surreal. We found that the entire system had evolved and been designed to systematically filter out, reject, marginalise, mock and ignore just about everything and everyone that threatened the elite-run, state-corporate status quo.”

    http://medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2016/824-fifteen-years-of-media-lens-an-appeal-for-support.html

    I guess I’m not the only one here who would wholeheartedly concur with that. In otherwords, never assume that the mainstream media are telling you anything near the truth (it goes without saying that you shouldn’t trust politicians further than you can spit), and as such you should question everything.

    This does not show disrespect for the victims of what we are told are terrorist attacks. If anything, seeking the truth honours them.

    I will remind folks that the only reason there was an official enquiry into 9/11 (albeit a phony enquiry) was because six wives of the victims (the so-called ‘Jersey girls’) made enough noise and didn’t let up until Bush & Co agreed to an official investigation of 9/11.

    Without this there would have been no official investigation into one of the most seminal events in modern history, and we would have all gone marching off to war regardless.

    • Martinned

      I will remind folks that the only reason there was an official enquiry into 9/11 (albeit a phony enquiry) was because six wives of the victims (the so-called ‘Jersey girls’) made enough noise and didn’t let up until Bush & Co agreed to an official investigation of 9/11.

      And then it was discovered that 9/11 was an inside job?

      But seriously, can we please apply Occam’s razor before reaching for the tinfoil hat conspiracy theories?

      • RobG

        This thread will probably be deleted if there’s too much mention of 9/11. The point I was trying to make is that six wives from New Jersey didn’t just accept the propaganda that was spoon-fed to them by the media.

        I’m sure you’re aware that there is a comment thread for 9/11 on this board.

        • Martinned

          I assumed the massive levels of sarcasm I employed would be enough to keep the thread from going off topic. Like you, I only meant to use it as an example.

        • glenn_uk

          But you know we _did_ actually go right off to war anyway, of course? The Commission – riddled as it was with stooges (they wanted Kissinger to run it at first!) – heard evidence in secret, didn’t swear in the main witnesses, allowed Bush to testify only on condition of Cheney answering for him, and reached no meaningful conclusions. Nobody at fault, nobody guilty except the terrorists who are conveniently all dead.

          Apart from that sort of thing, the Commission was a great success.

      • bevin

        I’m not sure about an “inside job”, the US Empire is so Byzantine in its webs of power centres, many of which are in constant conflict with each other, that defining ‘inside’ is difficult.
        But try this: the principal conspirators, as identified by the 9/11 Report, were introduced into the USA, supported financially and in regular contact with the Saudi Embassy when the Ambassador was Prince Bandar bin Sultan, whose wife paid the said conspirators thousands of dollars.
        Bandar was an intimate of the Bush’s, an investor in W’s Oil speculations and known in the family as Bandar Bush.
        These dots are so close together that they come close to joining up themselves.

        • Alan

          That’s the nature of conspiracies, there is always somebody out to get you. Oops! Of course that may be cutting a bit too close to the bone eh, Habba old bean?

        • Alan

          Didn’t you once suggest that should you ever become moderator that you would delete responses such as you just gave?

          Please feel free to answer honestly, as in “Yes”.

  • Alcyone

    So what do people here (Lurkers please comment), think of Shari law in general and in ‘team GB’ 9can’t stand that term, surely someone can come up with better next time?)? I did ask our friend Node earlier but I think he slinked away without a reply.

    “There are, in fact, two separate legal orders functioning [in the UK], of which one currently operates in the ‘shadow of the law’,” she concludes.”

    “Sharia courts in Britain lock women into ‘marital captivity’, study says
    Exclusive: Academic with unprecedented access to Islamic divorce hearings says courts fail to report domestic violence”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sharia-courts-in-britain-lock-women-into-marital-captivity-study-says-a6761141.html

    The article is from end 2015, so still highly relevant. Why is it that we don’t hear much about this subject of Sharia. Anyway, I hope Anjem C is reating comfortably in I hope a high-security prison now.

    • oblivious

      I don’t think Muslims have their own police force, unlike another group who have Shomrim. If we have to put up with these mindless thugs who use tasers at the drop of a hat, so should they. The boys in blue having to go to Israel to be trained also sends out an ominous message about how they plan to police us in future.I suppose they could train them how to take an eight year old’s bicycle off her or teach them howto stand there like planks while some Palestinian toddlers are being abused and threatened by ‘settlers’. Why are you making a fuss over Sharia law Alcyone? It’s never going to affect you.

    • Martinned

      There are, in fact, two separate legal orders functioning [in the UK],

      There are lots more than that. The FA have their own courts too, for example.

  • Alcyone

    Now the surprise of all:

    ” Most European Muslims want sharia

    by Ingrid Carlqvist
    Dispatch International

    A majority of the Muslims in Europe want sharia should have precedence over the secular laws of their European host countries. This according to a new study by WZB Berlin Social Science Center where Muslims in six countries interviewed, including Sweden. A study that should concern Western politicians, according to the researchers.

    The study posed three questions to the immigrant Turks and Moroccans in Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Holland and Sweden:

    Do you think sharia is more important to you than the laws of the country you live? (66%)
    Do you mean that there is only one legitimate interpretation of the Koran that should apply to all Muslims? (75%)
    Are you saying that Muslims should return to their “Islamic roots”? (60%)
    Those who answered Yes to all questions be referred to as “consistent fundamentalists” – and these represent 44 per cent of those questioned Muslims in Europe. The fundamentalist attitudes are as common among younger Muslims among the elderly.”
    https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2015/11/28/most-european-muslims-want-sharia-not-european-laws/

    • Alan

      “Now the surprise of all:

      ” Most European Muslims want sharia”

      Why is that surprising? Conquerors always enforce their laws upon the conquered.

    • Republicofscotland

      Alcyone.

      As Habb often says, what do we know about the Muslim Statistics webpage, well clicking on its about page, sets alarm bells ringing.

      Things might not be what the seem.

      If only Krishnamurti were around today, he could pen a whole book on the subject, and give countless laborious speeches on the matter, of why the about page lacks any kind of information.

      • Habbabkuk

        “As Habb often says, what do we know about the Muslim Statistics webpage..”
        _________________

        With great respect, “Republicofscotland”, I don’t think I’ve ever said that about that webpage.

        Possibly because I was unaware of it until today.

        Please keep up.

        • Republicofscotland

          My apologies Habb, I should’ve said certain websites that YOU find dubious, after a first cursory glance, on the about page that carries scant information.

          I believe the Muslim Statistics website, and in particular its about page falls into that category.

    • Clark

      We need to decrease Saudi influence upon mosques. It’s Saudi Arabia that’s trying to take over all Islam with their petrodollars (look up “petro-Islam”), and their interpretation is awful. Trouble is, the US has undertaken to support the Saudi Arabian state “religion” in return for a secure supply of oil – the Quincy Agreement, 1945.

      It isn’t a proper religion, it’s a power structure with brutalising enforcement, and a projection of Saudi power. Very useful for neocon foreign policy, but violent and repressive.

    • Martinned

      Do you think sharia is more important to you than the laws of the country you live? (66%)
      Do you mean that there is only one legitimate interpretation of the Koran that should apply to all Muslims? (75%)
      Are you saying that Muslims should return to their “Islamic roots”? (60%)

      You do realise that a “consistent Catholic”, say, would also answer yes to all three of those questions?

      • michael norton

        On the wireless, the other day, a woman witness, said they tazered him multiple times, then because he was unresponsive they started kicking him.

          • Paul Barbara

            Are you sure he was a nutter? I hadn’t noticed him posting on here before he was murdered.

        • Alan

          Yes! And they shot Jean Charles de Menezes dead on Stockwell Station and got away with it after pumping bullets into him as he lay helpless, and got away with it. You seriously think this will be any different?

          • Kempe

            Police have just settled compensation to the family of another man who died after being Tazered. He’d soaked himself with petrol and idiot copper thought firing 50,000 volts into him would be a sound idea.

            As usual the police are refusing to admit they did anything wrong and disciplinary action is being taken against anybody.

      • nevermind

        It does not say ‘suspected’ criminal investigation, it quiet clear about it and there have been witnesses apparently.
        I heard one woman on channel 4 saying that the ‘officers were kicking the man on the ground’.

        If this is true, what did the other officers do? stand round and watch? clap? or make encouraging noises?
        privileged goons who also must be a little daft to think that nobody in this close was watching them.

  • Clark

    Hello all, I’m sat on top of a coach in the crew camp at the festival, having just re-established just needed reinitialising, no idea why. The festival site is coming to life with the stall-holders arriving, stages set up, sound and lighting systems being rigged, generators humming. We’ve had lovely weather, really hot and sunny after cloudy starts. The gates open tomorrow; here’s hoping… I’m unlikely to have time to look at this blog again for a bit. Hey, I just heard a bass guitar or something, the first sound system must be up and running…

    • Clark

      “…having just re-established the Internet connection”. God I hate “Touch-to-Click”. Can’t even find a way to disable it on Windows 8.

      • Clark

        “…having just re-established the Internet connection. I’m up here because I assumed that the satellite dish would need realigning, but the connection just needed to be reinitialised, no idea why”

    • Republicofscotland

      Clark.

      Have a nice time I hope the weather holds out, by the way, it’s good to sense a cheerful note in your writings, long may it last. ?

      • Clark

        Well it’s a good meadow; thick, lush grass which should handle a fair amount of rain. The vehicle lanes get churned up, though, which can present problems.

        • RobG

          Have a good one, Clark, and I’d gladly swap the ‘fair amount of rain’ where you are with the drought in my neck of the woods.

          The rabbits here are all staying doune the hole to escape the high temperatures and my political rants.

        • Paul Barbara

          The last time I had a decent time out in the fields was at the three-day protest in Watford during the Bilderberg ‘Conference’.

          • Clark

            Mud’s good fun for some of the punters, I suppose. Crew like me will be here a week after the festial’s finished, taking everything down and packing it all away. Meanwhile we live in tents.

            The rain’s just started and the gates have just opened. Far from ideal.

  • Mick McNulty

    Although we’re the 51st state of America and have been since Wilson left Downing Street the US hasn’t had the courtesy to make us another star on Old Glory. But maybe that’s because 51 is a bit of an awkward symmetry? Yeah….I’m going with that….that or our politicians are ass-licking sell-out toadies.

  • Habbabkuk

    Why should Anon! feel sorry for you, Alan? Please explain.

    ++++++++++++++++++

    I note, by the way, that you have not reacted to my observation that you are part of the 80% of the UK population who are doing quite well and enjoying a good standard of living.

    Not that any of the other Loquacious Ones have either……

      • Habbabkuk

        That is a fair point and is it not a sign of the vibrantly free and democratic society the UK is that such people are allowed the freedom of the internet without let, hindrance or sanction?

      • Republicofscotland

        Not forgetting far right Muslim/refugee hating crackpots as well, I wonder if those symptoms are a sign of resenment due to self inadequacies?

        I wonder what Freud would’ve made of that?

      • lysias

        “Self-hating” is a word that people without conscience like to use about people who have consciences.

  • Habbabkuk

    This is for you, Alan (and others).

    “Elvis Presley – Are You Lonesome Tonight w/lyrics”

    But don’t forget, you’re never really alone on here.

  • Habbabkuk

    It is well known that true Communist believers have always been prone to smear their opponents as “fascists”, “racists” and so on.

    That is no less mendacious and deceitful now than it was in the unhappy days when the USSR existed.

  • Paul Barbara

    @ Habbabkuk August 18, 2016 at 20:28
    ‘Probably yes. But then I’m not the Head Moderator yet, am I.’

    Such a thing! Why not apply at Mike West’s ‘Megabunk’? Admittedly, you’d have a heck of a lot of competition, the job’s so well remunerated.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    The Saker, is one of the most intelligent and honest bloggers I have ever come across – and his book is well worth buying cos it is massive and highly readable. He is a former? Military Analyst of Russian descent born in Switzerland, but who lives with his wife and family in Florida. He likes to remain anonymous – for fairly obvious reasons – if you read what he writes – but when he was outed by someone a few years ago – with a crap photo of him – but his full Russian name…He posted a very good photo of himself with a pint of beer in his hand and his beautiful wife kind of slightly blurred out – and asked his blog readers – should he try to remain semi-anonymous – or go full frontal?

    I have massive respect for Craig Murray – but I have never nominated him for World Journalist of The Year in any year Yet (but if he gets 9/11 as the Saker has – he may be in with a shot in the future)

    (John Ward of The Slog is doing extremely well this year – and he hasn’t got 9/11 either – its O.K. – I do understand a bit of psychology and cognitive dissonance)

    The Saker was interviewed today by some Russian Newspaper or Website whatever published in English – and he said this as well as a lot of other things…

    “The Saker: The US operations in Syria are really no different from what the US did in Afghanistan over 30 years ago. The US has been using various types of Takfiri crazies in many wars (Chechnia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, etc.) as what I call “foot soldiers for the Empire”. The only thing that changes is the label these forces operate under: whether “freedom fighters” or “moderate opposition”, they are still in reality only al-Qaeda or ISIS, and at the end of the day they are all one and the same: Takfiri crazies, managed by western special forces, paid for by Wahabi (Saudi) money and engaged against all those who refuse to bow to the Empire. Political reasons have forced the US to engage in a pretend war against Daesh just because it does not look very good when the 911 false flag is blamed on al-Qaeda while at the same time the USA are using all their power to prop-up, organize, protect and manage the very same al-Qaeda. Furthermore, there are some pretty clear signs that there is more than one US foreign policy now: there is a White House foreign policy, there is a Republicans in Congress foreign policy, there is a Pentagon foreign policy and, of course, there is a CIA foreign policy. And these various actors rarely pursue the same goals. This kind of “executive chaos” is a surefire sign that the top of the Executive Branch has been tremendously weakened and that various actors are now taking major political decisions in their own hands.”

    Personally, I give that 10/10 – and that is just part of the interview…

    Can you imagine any of the braindead American Zombies Representing the US State Department – and that is the best they can find..They are The PR – Jesus …they are not very good. Even I could do better than that – except no one outside of the UK would be able to understand my broad Lancashire accent (unless they were addicted to Coronation Street)

    “Sputnik International interviews the Saker”

    http://thesaker.is/sputnik-international-interviews-the-saker/

    Tony

    • Paul Barbara

      They did the same thing in South and Central America, and the Caribbean, except instead of Wahhabis they used drug gangs and military coups, generally spearheaded by military trained in places like the ‘School of the Americas’ (renamed now, but still going strong).
      Agree the Saker is a good source.

    • Herbie

      Excellent analysis.

      But easy enough once you understand who the major players are.

      This is all related to the relatively recent emergence of oligarchs openly fronting their own political movements.

      Across the board.

      When the real power emerges from the shadows, you know things are bad.

      • Habbabkuk

        “This is all related to the relatively recent emergence of oligarchs openly fronting their own political movements.”
        _______________________

        In which way, exactly. Herbie?

        It all sounds very ominous.

        Please share your info for the benefit if those of us who do not share your broad geopolitical insights and knowledge.

        Thanks.

    • Paul Barbara

      What a racist video! It shows blacks being ‘parachuted’ into the West – but wait a sec, most of them look West Indian – and weren’t they brought in under extreme duress as slaves? It shows masses of people coming from Africa and Asia into the West – but didn’t we rape and pillage their countries (and continue to do so) first? Are we not creating a massive influx of refugees by invading and bombarding their countries?
      Are you unaware that the PTB are planning mass human culling, principally of Blacks Coloreds and Asians, but also most of the Whites as well (they don’t need nearly so many slaves, whether waged or not, as so much infrastructure has now been laid, and machines can do most of the work – we are just ‘useless eaters’)?
      But, ‘divide and rule’; create discontent, then manage it by scapegoating ‘the other’, like they did with the Sunni/Shia hostilities (and the backing of one group over another has been practiced for centuries, it’s not a recent phenomenon.
      Yes, ‘Endgame’ is a good video, but unfortunately you’ve chosen the wrong version – try ‘EndGame’ by Alex Jones (he has lost a lot of support recently, and has always been a bit ‘iiffy’, but when he’s good, he’s good.):
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho

      I am NOT a fan of Jones, though as I said, he has put out some good work.

      • Chris Jones

        Might there be a little bit of programmed self flagellating white privilaged white guilt for crimes of empire done centuries ago by a 1% sick elite that have nothing to do with you going on here perhaps? Just a little? Divide and rule is the prevailing theme I agree, and it’s the George Soros and Rothchilds of this world who are the ones behind this mass genocidal plan. But it is still a genocidal plan to genocide the people of Europe however you put it. A million or more illegal immigrants (economic migrants) will be entering Europe from north Africa every year from now on if the treacherous European and UK politicians get their way. This makes a cruel mockery of a sensible needs based immigration policy. The far gone progressive media willl label anyone that opposes their own genocide as racists and bigots of course – we should embrace our servitude and destruction in order to not upset the Guardian reading red trousered hipsters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZhD8S6o5s

        • Paul Barbara

          Sure, started centuries ago, but continuing to this day. As for ‘economic migrants’, you fail to address the FACT that most of the wave of immigrants is coming from countries we and/or our ‘partners in crime’ have been bombing. And do you blame them? Do you think they should just stay in situ to be bombed and crucified and have their throats slit by ‘our’ mercenary ‘Islamic’ (or otherwise) thugs, and ‘grin and bear it?

          • Chris Jones

            I don’t blame or hate them no. But if you do some further research you’ll find that only around 20% are genuine asylum seekers from war torn countries – the others have been paid and helped to flood Europe illegally with sums of money from the USA and other places that they could never find otherwise. In most cases the asylum asylum seekers were also able to find safety in neighbouring countries such as Turkey but were encouraged to carry on travelling to Europe by financial incentives encouraged by western countries (including Turkey). George Soros has demanded that the EU borrow £10 billion pounds to pay these individuals – that money will be borrowed from – you guessed it-Rothchild owned banks. Imagine all that lovely new debt and interest, further bankrupting and enslaving Europe. The best way European countries can help those genuinely flleeing war is to send large funds to safe neighbouring countries so that these people can be given shelter and asylum at a place nearest to their own countries.

          • Chris Jones

            @ Martinned, 14.22 Yep, you said it. They own nearly all of the central banks of the world. And Israel. But it’s all just a crazy conspiracy theory of course

          • Martinned

            [The J*ws] own nearly all of the central banks of the world.

            Yup, you caught them. Silly us for believing what it says in s. 1 of the Bank of England Act 1946…

            Transfer of Bank stock to Treasury
            (1) On the appointed day—
            (a) the whole of the existing capital stock of the Bank (hereinafter referred to as “Bank stock”) shall, by virtue of this section, be transferred, free of all trusts, liabilities and incumbrances, to such person as the Treasury may by order nominate, to be held by that person on behalf of the Treasury;

          • Martinned

            [The Rothchilds] own nearly all of the central banks of the world.

            Yup, you caught them. Silly us for believing what it says in s. 1 of the Bank of England Act 1946…

            Transfer of Bank stock to Treasury
            (1) On the appointed day—
            (a) the whole of the existing capital stock of the Bank (hereinafter referred to as “Bank stock”) shall, by virtue of this section, be transferred, free of all trusts, liabilities and incumbrances, to such person as the Treasury may by order nominate, to be held by that person on behalf of the Treasury;

          • Chris Jones

            @Martineed

            Who mentioned anything about Jews? Try to control your obsessions and fetishes.

            You forgot to mention the Bank of England Nominees Limited company – a wholly owned subsidiary of the Bank of England, a private limited company with 2 of its 100 £1 shares issued. The objectives of the company are:

            “To act as Nominee or agent or attorney either solely or jointly with others, for any person or persons, partnership, company, corporation, government, state, organisation, sovereign, province, authority, or public body, or any group or association of them….”

            This company is very special as its protected by the official secrets act, its Royal Charter status and is exempt from the normal disclosure requirements that other companies have to comply with to meet section 27 of the Companies Act 1976.

            It is said that the reason being is that the major players in the world of finance including the Queen of England and other Royal families use this company to purchase shares and remain anonymous. It is a fact that the Governer of the Bank of England doesn’t move a finger without permission from his Rothchild masters.

            Let’s not forget either that 97% of the money in circulation is created by the high street commercial banks – conveniently also tied to the Rothchilds and their affiliates and subsidiaries

            The Rothchilds also own the Federal Reserve of the USA together with other banking families. It’s a private central bank not a national bank.

            Do you still wish to doubt this open conspiracy with childish detractions and insinuations?

        • Habbabkuk

          “it’s the George Soros and Rothchilds of this world who are the ones behind this mass genocidal plan.”
          ____________________

          Yup, it’s those pesky J***s again!

          +++++++++++++++++++

          BTW, I found some fairies at the bottom of my garden this morning – would you like them?

          • Chris Jones

            Again , where exactly were Jews mentioned? This habit of trying to create your own distraction narrative and cheap insinuation so you can attack the facts is getting old guys – it’s very well worn by now

        • Paul Barbara

          He is highly dubious, but he has put out some very good information, and spread it where it wouldn’t have got spread without him.

      • Chris Jones

        It does though demonstrate how much people in the west have been brainwashed with white guilt and anti white sentiment that you watch a video clearly demonstrating that there is an attempt at genociding all European nations and yet you decide to be more incensed by how ‘racist the graphics’ used in the video are in your view. Cognitive dissonance much?

  • YKMN

    As people/ai-machines above hinted, the sovereign USA seems to be in 4 minds about the worldwide problems that it is apparently causing: according to Washington Post http://www.libyaobserver.ly/news/us-says-cia-asset-libya-khlaifa-haftar-no-longer-america%E2%80%99s-silver-lining-libya

    However, Prague Monitor seems to be ‘typing on message’ + ‘all caused by Putin’ meme, Brexit/EU-fall is supported by kgb (probably true) but isn’t the rest of the article just the inverse of actuality?

    http://www.praguemonitor.com/2016/08/19/kremlin-uses-zeman-secret-services-spread-influence-study-says

      • Ba'al Zevul

        …Nicola Livingston of the Glasgow Jewish Representative Council said “the protest would “hurt” the community…

        And there’s the solution to everyone’s problems. All the Gazans have to do is tell the Israelis that the continuing blockade will ‘hurt the community’, and everything will be rearranged to suit them.

        Community (Declension):

        We are a community
        You are a group
        They are terrorists.

      • Habbabkuk

        As I have pointed out before – and shall keep pointing out – to call Israeli action in thr West Bank and Gaza “genocide” is inaccurate and extremely silly.

        Moreover, whether advertently or inadvertently, it is disrespectful of what are generally acknowledged to have been modern genocides (Armenians, Hoilocausr, Ruanda…).

        You are diseased ganglion, Node.

    • Habbabkuk

      Almost as courageous as standing outside synagogues hissing at those who enter, eh, Baal?

    • YKMN

      but football is rather the sort of thing that Lord Reith would have approved of , to keep the annoying populace quiet,

      (as PM Thatcher’s team was planning sport/news agenda and I guess whoever in charge now has a degree from Bradford University in Media Manipulation, and has done a high-vis risk-assessment of this forum)

    • Martinned

      Yes, well, if you’d read about that in any other newspaper than the Express – and I use the word newspaper very loosely there – you would have known that that list was drawn up by some person in no way affiliated with the EU institutions. Of course, the Express has a well-known track record of not letting little details like that bother them, but I wonder why you felt the need to repeat this nonsense in a thread that has nothing to do with the EU.

      • michael norton

        Martinned, the thread is about the Dyfunctional U.K. or great Britain,
        G.B. have been doing astonishingly well in the current Olympics, partly down to the talent and deadication of British people but, perhaps more importantly the functioning of G.B. to make it happen.

        now although I believe that the State of the U.K. is doing fairly well, it is going to do even better when we have loosed the shackles to the drowing corpse of the hated E.U.
        The E.U. is very dysfunctional – look at Greece and how the E.U. have shafted them, removed their dignity, their hope.

        • Martinned

          1. I ask again, “hated” by whom? Very few people actually have that level of commitment to their dislike of the EU. Most just like sticking it to HMG.

          2. Team GB did well because they exploited ignorant poor people through the National Lottery to sink enormous amounts of money into professional sports. I’ll leave it as an exercise for the reader to decide whether that’s an appropriate thing for a government to be doing.

          • michael norton

            Very well, since you insist.
            Hated by the Greeks.
            Hated by half the people in the U.K. who are desperate to release the shackles to the drowning E.U. corpse

            not of course hated by the family Kinnock
            who have done “very” well out of it.

          • michael norton

            Not of course hated by the family Blair
            who have done “very” well out of it

          • Node

            Team GB did well because they exploited ignorant poor people through the National Lottery to sink enormous amounts of money into professional sports.

            That and banning Russian track and field athletes. Let’s ban US athletes too next Olympics and win even more medals.

          • Martinned

            Greeks overwhelmingly want to stay in the EU, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

            As for the UK, like I said, you seem sadly mistaken about the extent to which your passions are shared by your fellow citizens.

          • Node

            That’s always the discussion: why not legalise doping for everyone?

            The problem with that is the enhanced athletes would nearly always win, therefore an athlete would HAVE to take drugs to be successful. If there were two Olympics, one ‘drug-enhanced’ and one ‘clean’, I’d probably prefer to watch the ‘clean’ one because the ‘drug-enhanced’ one would inevitably lead to health-damaging levels of doping which would make me feel guilty for encouraging.

            Here’s an alternative suggestion. We could apply anti-doping legislation equally to all countries rather than use it for political purposes.

          • Martinned

            Here’s an alternative suggestion. We could apply anti-doping legislation equally to all countries rather than use it for political purposes.

            Works for me. But you realise that means enforcing it against Russians too, right?

          • Node

            Works for me. But you realise that means enforcing it against Russians too, right?

            equally
            ˈiːkw(ə)li/
            adverb
            adverb: equally

            in the same manner or to the same extent.

      • michael norton

        MedalTracker.eu was produced by the Berlin-based agency Euro Informationen, which works for both the European Commission and European Parliament.

        • Martinned

          I’m sure they do. I’m sure they work for lots of other people too. But neither Institution asked them to make this. I assume it’s a clever bit of self-promotion.

          • michael norton

            A double murderer who posed as a refugee to enter the UK illegally is to be extradited, back to Albania

      • Republicofscotland

        Ah the Express newspaper, possibly the most anti-Scottish on the market.

        Though the:

        Herald, Times, Telegraph, Daily Mail, Huffington Post, Daily Mirror, Daily Record, Scotsman, and a dozen others come a close second.

        As for the Olympic games, I don’t really watch them, my country isn’t at the games, perversely however several of its athletes have won medals, but in the annals of history their wins will be remembered as British medal winners.

  • YKMN

    A warm welcome to Michal Koudelka, new head of the Czechia secret squirrels – he tells us the following (correct me if I’m wrong trolls, thanks)

    28 NATO MS
    BE, CAN, DAN, FRA, ISL, ITA, LUX, NL, NOR, POR, UK, USA, GR, TUR, DE, ES, HU, CZ, PL, BG, EST, LAT, LIT, ROM, SVK, SLV, ALB, CRO,

    28 EU MS
    A, BE, BG, CRO, CY, CZ, DAN, ES, EST, FIN, FRA, DE, GR, HU, IRL, ITA, LAT, LIT, LUX, MLT, NL, PL, ROM, SVK, SLV, ES, SWE, UK

    so that’s 33 EU+NATO MS, (32 not including CZ) who between them have just SEVENTY intelligence agencies – an average of 2.2 each

    compared to Michal’s much larger dataset (*) of 106 agencies in 67 countries – an average of 1.5 each (but that includes the NATO +EU data)
    so (106-70) = 36 agencies in (67-32) 35 countries – gives the rest of the world’s nations around one intelligence agency per country. . .(excluding those axis of evil bunch that no-one talks to, presumably)

    Here in military industrial complex led NATO/EUROLAND we have therefore on average more than double the number of secret squirrel agencies protecting us from terrorizm by stealing our data & factually (*) historically killing their/our own actual citizens, that in my naïve analysis is actually causing terrorizm!. Thanks Michal Koudelka

    (*) data from
    http://www.praguemonitor.com/2016/08/19/new-czech-intelligence-chief-wants-recruit-new-people

    (*) recognised by the Italian presidente del Consiglio Giulio Andreotti (PM) on October 24th 1990, when he spoke in parliament of a secret NATO designed ”structure of information, response and safeguard”

    (*) Although ‘closed’ they were still kicking around at least 15 years later!; that is according to auntie BBC on Friday, 1 July, 2005
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4640247.stm
    Italian state radio RAI later reported that the two arrested men may have had links with Gladio, the Italian branch of a secret paramilitary network set up in post-war Europe with the backing of the CIA.

  • michael norton

    The Dysfunctional United Kingdom

    This is an area, we really are dysfunctional – keeping dogs under control, almost weekly another person is either killed or gets life changing injuries inflicted by dogs.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-37129134
    A three-year-old boy has died after he was bitten by a dog in Essex.

    Police said it happened at a property in Parker Way, Halstead, at 17:40 BST on Thursday.

    An air ambulance was called to the scene and the boy was airlifted to Addenbrooke’s Hospital in Cambridge.

    Essex Police said a 29-year-old woman had been arrested for allowing a dog to be dangerously out of control. The dog has been seized by police and placed in kennels.

      • michael norton

        There have been two humans killed by dogs in the last week, in the United Kingdom

        • Node

          There have been two humans killed by dogs in the last week, in the United Kingdom

          How many in the previous 51 weeks?

          • glenn_uk

            “How many in the previous 51 weeks?

            Not deaths, perhaps, but how many injuries? How many people were menaced – deliberately or otherwise? How many people have to put up with incessant barking from someone’s lovely dog?

            How many people have been revolted or inconvenienced by dog-shit, which dog owners apparently think is a delight for everyone else?

            But never mind any of that, eh? The rights of dog-owners trumps all.

          • glenn_uk

            Quite right, RoS. And news of all these deaths got a collective “Meh” from the Establishment.

            If one of these deaths had been caused by a bone-fide terrorist, there would have been howls of outrage that this good, honest, decent citizen (if not hero) had met an untimely demise from these enemies of our righteous way of life.

          • Node

            Not deaths, perhaps, but how many injuries? How many people were menaced – deliberately or otherwise? How many people have to put up with incessant barking from someone’s lovely dog?

            How many stings didn’t result in death, how many had to run away squealing and flapping their arms, how many irritated by persistent buzzing and bumping at the window?

            How many people have been revolted or inconvenienced by dog-shit ….

            How many pints ruined, picnics abandoned, pounds spent on getting wasp nests removed?

            ….. which dog owners apparently think is a delight for everyone else?

            Really? And you think that helps your argument?

            But never mind any of that, eh? The rights of dog-owners trumps all.

            I’ve made no mention of dogs’ or anybody else’s rights. I’m putting hysterical headlines about isolated tragedies into proportion.

          • Republicofscotland

            Thank you a Glenn, you are quite correct on the terrorist thing, it would be wall-to-wall coverage in media.

            However as you rightly add, thousands dying at the hands of DWP action can’t be blamed on terrorism, or refugees or Muslims, so it’s not that newsworthy a story.

            The UN were supposed to investigate IDS’s handling of the treatment of disabled people, I don’t recall what the verdict was.

          • glenn_uk

            Makes it pretty obvious that the government isn’t really that concerned about the life of every citizen. If five people were killed by religious freaks every day for just one week, the entire country would be on lockdown indefinitely.

          • fred

            In 1926, when records began, there were 4,886 deaths on Britain’s roads. By 1966 it was 7,985 when the numbers started falling to 1,713 in 2013.

      • nevermind

        death due to traffic, idiots, drunk/drug drivers, tractor drivers, bus drivers, sleep and those I forgot to mention, roughly 3000-3500?per annum.

        close all roads, quick, do not let London/ please add your choice of town/city, drivers loose on our rural roads.
        Yes Ban ladders altogether, they are far too dangerous.

        • Ben Monad

          Are you trying to reason with canine bigots? They don’t like children with poopy diapers either because they are so sensitive to hygiene issues. In fact, a bigot has but one sphincter for conducting all their business.

          • glenn_uk

            Perhaps you could abuse such people, with mocking references to their grief over the loss of a parent some more, Ben. What a stupid, heartless lout you are.

          • Alcyone

            Glenn, I’m surprised you’re even able to decipher Ben. Sometimes I feel he’s on another plane to the rest of us.

          • Ben Monad

            It’s amazing to me that you pre-frontally challenged geeks have hooked up without some genetic link, or so i should assume. Have you checked one another’s genealogy for intersects? I would start there.

          • glenn_uk

            Alcyone: I was only able to decipher Ben because he’d made it so personal.

            Having made an off-hand couple of comments about my general dislike of dogs – not to Ben, who wasn’t here at the time – Ben decided to weigh in about my dead father, making ugly jeers and profane, obscene comments about me and you, Alcyone.

            Not content to post such miserable filth here and have it deleted (because of his lack of decency and common humanity), he posted it up on Squonk’s.

  • michael norton

    J****h man stabbed in France, attacker shouts ‘Allahu Akhbar’
    https://www.rt.com/news/356472-france-rabbi-stab-strasbourg/

    The perpetrator was detained by police and taken into custody for questioning. Witnesses say that the attacker was between 30 and 40 years old. According to the Journal du Dimanche publication, the attacker had a history of psychiatric problems.

    So far, the prosecutor has only confirmed that a man has been arrested, without releasing further details regarding the case.

    • michael norton

      A J*w wounded with a knife, the author arrested

      A J****h man was injured with a knife, on Friday morning in Strasbourg (Bas-Rhin).

      According to our colleagues of Latest Alsace, the victim, a pensioner of 62, was wearing a yarmulke at the time.

      The perpetrator, aged thirty years, was arrested.He has a psychiatric history.

      According to several witnesses, the assailant reportedly shouted “Allahu Akbar” when hit, but police did not confirm this.

      The victim was hospitalized but his life is not in danger.
      http://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2016/08/19/un-juif-blesse-au-couteau-l-auteur-arrete

      • michael norton

        O.K. let us see if it is allowed in the original French Language

        Un homme de confession juive a été blessé au couteau, ce vendredi matin, à Strasbourg (Bas-Rhin).

        Selon nos confrères des Dernières nouvelles d’Alsace, la victime, un retraité de 62 ans, portait une kippa au moment des faits.

        L’auteur de l’agression, âgé d’une trentaine d’années, a été arrêté. Il a des antécédents psychiatriques.

        Selon plusieurs témoins, l’agresseur aurait crié “Allahou Akbar” au moment de frapper, mais la police ne confirme pas ce point.

        La victime a été hospitalisée mais ses jours ne sont pas en danger.

  • YKMN

    Dangerous-dogs: I guess wild dogs in Syria eat much human carrion nowadays. Walking around Saudi in ‘peacetime, there was always a danger from packs, except around the Dong-Ah construction camps, for some reason. Probably serious dog-lovers as a nation.

    An accurate, contextual, critical cartoon on the tragedy of Syria here in the formerly respectable Guardian :-

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2016/aug/18/martin-rowson-on-syrian-airstrikes-cartoon

    The previous Wednesday Rowson’s cartoon also ‘hilariously’ combined Owen Smiff & ISIL/IS/ISIS(Da’esh) , apparently.

    It is absurd, makes a mockery of “comment is free” that the formerly respectable Guardian does not allow comments on the two recent cartoons, just on the one from Tuesday about Southern Rail, or the one from Monday about Sports Direct. That’s a real dogs-dinner of “Control the Communications Channel”

    • Ba'al Zevul

      Hell, the only valid response to a Rowson cartoon would be another cartoon done with equal strength and feeling (virtually impossible, I’d say). I agree with him about 95% of the time, which is as good as it ever gets; he’s allowed an opinion too. If he worked for the Times, I’d buy that instead.

    • Habbabkuk

      “It is absurd, makes a mockery of “comment is free” that the formerly respectable Guardian does not allow comments on the two recent cartoons,2
      _____________________

      May we take it from your aggrieved tone that you were one of the unsuccessful commenters?

      Seriously though, aren’t you twisting the “Comment is free” label just a little?

      You must know that it is not a standing open invitation to everyone who feels like venting to have their vents published in a national newspaper, surely?

      However, I believe The Guardian should guarantee publication of any vent (provided it is withing the law) against payment of a small fee. It would, in this way, increase revenue and discourage venters whose desire not to spend would doubtlessly outweigh their desire to see themselves in print.

      • Alan

        So basically, you have hopes of becoming head moderator on the Guardian as well as here? Aren’t you supposed to aim for something with an “ology”? Won’t your mother be disappointed?

        • Habbabkuk

          Alan

          I realise you crave my attention (you feel lonely in the evenings) and I do respond to you as often as I can because I’m a kind sort if guy. But you must realise I do have more unhealthy commenters to whom I must pay attention and so I have to inform you – with sincere regret – that I shall not be able to respond to you any more for the rest of this evening.

          • Alan

            Ain’t that a shame Habbakook, because, for a change I’ve decided to log on early evening to bless you with my full attention. Of course, I suspect you will do the usual and go off-line.

  • YKMN

    ace02468bdf13579 [ASCII]

    This is the currently newsworthy identification string used in (nation state) malware where a target (terrorist, journo, politico, citizen) requested a website – their remote website connection was intercepted, redirected, stuffed with malware “as much malware as possible” aka “WHACKED” and then they have another tool, Oh Joy , “MAGIC SQUIRREL”

    the logs show use against Pakistan NTC VIP division and Lebanese Hizballah data, the logs do not show the other billions of targets. . .

  • Republicofscotland

    What do we make of this, is it genuine? Or is it a propaganda photo by the anti-Assad forces aimed at us, in order to feel disgust at Assad, and allow our forces to become deeply involved in the Syrian debacle? You decide.

    Interesting snippets from the article, that should get one thinking, especially the last sentence.

    The photo of Omran captured a single moment of suffering but the children of Aleppo are subject to bombing 24 hours a day. You have a city under siege, no children are in school, and the reason they aren’t is because the concentration of children in a single area would create a target for the bombers – that is just how bad the situation has become. Schools and hospitals have become active targets. It could not be more brutal.”

    “The image of Omran is a still from a video filmed and circulated by the Aleppo Media Centre, an anti-government activist group.”

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/how-a-photograph-of-a-dazed-and-bloodied-boy-put-syria-back-in-focus.21352

    • Paul Barbara

      There is no reason to suspect the photo is not genuine.
      There is plenty of reason to suspect why it is being put down to Assad & the Russians; aren’t the ‘Moderate Rebels’ bombarding Aleppo with heavy artillery and rockets, including ones employing chemical weapons?
      Why do we not see such pictures, and worse, from our arms purchaser Saudi Arabia and it’s ‘Allies’ barbarous attacks on Yemen?
      Or on victims of US drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan and anywhere else they fancy bombarding?
      Or on the Gaza victims?
      Huh; we have a free press, they cover what their CEO’s choose!” Our MSM is not biased. How dare you! We are not Russia!

      Note, there is NO comment facilities on the National’s article; maybe they just don’t do ‘comments’.

      But above all, and this really makes me bloody angry, why does NO ONE, not Corbyn, not Watson, not McDonnell, not StW, no one, respond to the extremely important info I have stuffed under their noses re the source of the conflict? My own ‘Labour’ MP, Fitzpatrick, has refused to bring the info up before Parliament, and wouldn’t even check the links I sent ‘him’.
      Here is just SOME of the info: ‘Former French Foreign Minister: The War against Syria was Planned Two years before “The Arab Spring”: http://www.globalresearch.ca/former-french-foreign-minister-the-war-against-syria-was-planned-two-years-before-the-arab-spring/5339112
      ‘General Wesley Clark: The US will attack 7 countries in 5 years’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUCwCgthp_E
      There are other versions of the same two people giving the same interview to other sources.
      NO ONE WANTS TO KNOW.

    • Brianfujisan

      Hi RoS

      yes the Photo is real, i was watching the video last night, there was another younger boy, and a little girl ..

      I wonder Why, and Who, decided we should be seeing this now on the MSM…as of course it’s been going on for years… to Silence from msm.. and the same thing in Yemen, as yet another MSF hospital bombing demonstrates..

      the wee Syrian tots video –

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZw3VpGPqM4

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