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  • Paul Barbara

    To those who blame Russia for the Clinton emails, and who allege Julian Assange and Wikileaks never publiish anything against Russia, get a load of this: ‘Julian Assange:
    ‘……We have published about 800,000 documents of various kinds that relate to Russia. Most of those are critical; and a great many books have come out of our publications about Russia, most of which are critical. Our [Russia]documents have gone on to be used in quite a number of court cases: refugee cases of people fleeing some kind of claimed political persecution in Russia, which they use our documents to back up……’
    http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-secrets-of-the-us-election-julian-assange-talks-to-john-pilger

    • kief

      Are we the labor to search, individually times many wo/man hours for your precious citation?

      Fucking Christ man!!

      • Paul Barbara

        You have been granted free will; you don’t have to search for diddly=squat.
        My post was in refutation of those on this thread who have claimed that Wikileaks hasn’t published any anti-Russian infromation.

  • Paul Barbara

    ‘Anti-Trump Protesters Are Tools of the Oligarchy’: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45828.htm

    ‘Who are the anti-Trump protesters besmirching the name of progressives by pretending to be progressives and by refusing to accept the outcome of the presidential election? They look like, and are acting worse than, the “white trash” that they are denouncing.

    I think I know who they are. They are thugs for hire and are paid by the Oligarchy to delegitimize Trump’s presidency in the way that Washington and the German Marshall Fund paid students in Kiev to protest the democratically elected Ukrainian government in order to prepare the way for a coup.

    The organization, change.org, which claims to be a progressive group, but might be a front, along with other progressive groups, for the Oligarchy, is destroying the reputation of all progressives by circulating a petition that directs the electors of the Electoral Collage to annul the election by casting their votes for Hillary. Remember how upset progressives were when Trump said he might not accept the election result if there was evidence that the vote was rigged? Now progressives are doing what they damned Trump for saying he might do under certain conditions.

    The Western presstitutes used the protests in Kiev to delegitimize a democratically elected government and to set it up for a coup. The protest pay was good enough that non-Ukrainians came from nearby countries to participate in the protest in order to collect the money. At the time I posted the amounts paid daily to protesters. Reports came in to me from Eastern and Western Europe from people who were not Ukrainian but were paid to protest as if they were Ukrainians.

    The same thing is going on with the Trump protests. CNN reports that “for many Americans across the country, Donald Trump’s victory is an outcome they simply refuse to accept. Tens of thousands filled the streets in at least 25 US cities overnight.” This is the exact reporting that the Oligarchy desired from its presstitutes and got.

    I hope no one thinks that simultaneous protests in 25 cities were a spontaneous event. How did 25 independent protests manage to come up with the same slogans and the same signs on the same night following the election?

    What is the point of the protests, and what interest is served by them? As the Romans always asked, “who benefits?”

    There is only one answer: The Oligarchy and only the Oligarchy benefits.

    Trump is a threat to the Oligarchy, because he intends to stop the giveaway of American jobs to foreigners. The jobs giveaway, sanctified by the neoliberal junk economists as “free trade,” is one of the main reasons for the 21st century worsening of the US income distribution. Money that was formerly paid in middle class wages and salaries to American manufacturing employees and college graduates has been re-routed to the pockets of the One Percent……’

  • michael norton

    Germania does not like, want or need The Donald – they fear him or they fear their past.

    One newspaper headline exclaimed “Gott im Himmel!”, another “We’re in mourning”. Another minister described the result as
    “a nightmare from which we can’t wake up”.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37936207
    sensitive little souls are they not.

  • bevin

    “…A conscript army, as in the UK during WW2, means the involvement in fighting of a substantial proportion of the male, able-bodied population: see it as a form of taking on the responsibility of one’s own defence.
    “That is very different from the case of a very small proportion of the population (what proportion of the military-age population do the armed forces currently represent?) taking on the task of defending the great majority of the population…”
    This is nonsense: conscript armies are badly trained, badly paid and badly equipped compared with the smaller professional ‘regular’ armies. Unlike the regulars the conscripts have neither an aptitude for military duties nor a desire to engage in them. They are also unable, a regulars are, to plan families and careers around their service.
    There is no justification whatever for favouring professional soldiers over those compelled to serve, often with profound misgivings as to the competence and priorities of those who direct them.
    These opinions-attributed by the political illiterate Habbabkuk to Trotskyism- were shared by my late father who served as an officer in the British Army for almost forty years. Like most regulars he had a great deal of respect for National Servicemen but was always concerned that their relative lack of discipline and experience of combat meant that they often ran risks which veterans avoided.
    There is also the consideration that by definition conscripts serve in dangerous times whereas many professionals spend long periods of their careers without going into action.

    • Alcyone

      He is right. Except he failed to call Hillary out on her non-policies into the future. We know her history–other people’s Blood and Sweat. And now it’s her Tears. Hillary, Life is a Great Leveller. And also Hillarious for we are having the last cackling guffaw.

      Now all we want to see is your head shaved and trade a jumpsuit for your pantsuits.

    • Paul Barbara

      @ Ba’al Zevul November 14, 2016 at 08:40
      I don’t make him, or you, right. It’s not the fault of ‘The Left’, because the so-called US ‘Left’ has been co-opted.
      And whilst he is right in calling for debate, he should be aware that Jill Stein and others were barred from debating – by a stitch-up where a joint Repugnant/Demoprat ‘Committee’ decide on an impossibly high barrier (15% of the votes, as given by three national polling organisations, before a third Party is allowed into the Debates. As Third Party cCandidates get virtually nill MSM publicity, and most of what they DO get is hostile, it is practically impossible (unless one is a billionaire, or backed by one – in which your politics are going to be Status Quoi politics). Whilst I hope for some decent stuff from Trump, I won’t hold my breath; like Obomba, he may well break every pledge or statement of intent that he has made.
      But still, KNOWING what I KNOW of Killary Hildabeast, just getting rid of her was an accomplishment worthy of the highest praise.

    • kief

      it’s amazing that so many don’t see the irony in his campaign, in his rhetoric, in his indefatigable and relentless effort to offend as many as possible, that this was all a strategy to prove a point.

      You can’t go too negative on a campaign. Now, I feel, he will bring out the real Trump. Maybe not everyone’s utopian concept, but a genuine man on the street like BREWSTER’S Millions. Richard Pryor is President.

  • michael norton

    Sorry, I’ve got that partially wrong.

    Five hours after the Nice attack, French President François Hollande announced an extension of the state of emergency
    (which had been declared following the November 2015 Paris attacks) for a further three months, announced an intensification of the French military attacks on ISIL in Syria and Iraq, and suggested the attack might have been Islamic terrorism.
    So I must have missed an interime extention,
    can anyone who lives in France tells us what they think of all these extentions of state of Emergency in France,
    is it really about terror or is it about getting control of the agenda and keeping control.
    Dangerous times indeed for democracy in France.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    See that America has really been busy over the weekend, laying more waste in the Pacific and here at home.

    The earthquakes in New Zealand are just the continuing culmination of the ones that the Pentagon started back in December 2004 in the Aucklands Isles and off Aceh to punish the Muslim states like Malaysia, and pushed with the Tohoku one off off Japan to change its anti-Washington government a few years ago.

    The Pacific ring of fire is ablaze, and will only get worse with loony Trunp, doing it for nothing, probably out of his penthouse.

    And things are getting so bad domestically that the media is putting a lid on reporting it, claiming that it is just the hired work of thugs like me. And things will only get worse with deporting millions of undocumented residents, women who need abortions, and thugs like me.

    America is going to become the leading exporter in the world of its problems.

    • Trowbridge H. Ford

      And Megyn Kelly has lifted the lid on Trump’s bribery, claiming that he tried to bribe her and other reporters to soften their coverage of his campaign.

      That’s where the $800,000,000 campaign funds started going, but where did the rest of it go?

  • michael norton

    What we don’t want is what Tony Blair weants
    What we don’t want is what Nick Clegg wants
    What we don’t want is what Nicola Sturgeon wants
    What we don’t want is what David Cameron wants
    What we don’t want is what Barak Obama / Hillary Clinton wants
    What we don’t want is what Francois Hollande wants

    any patterns emerging yet?

  • michael norton

    O/T
    Labour M.P. Jo Cox was shot and stabbed to death for a “political and/or ideological cause”, the Old Bailey has heard.

    Thomas Mair, 53, allegedly murdered Mrs Cox outside her constituency surgery in Birstall, near Leeds, on 16 June.

    He shouted “Britain First” as he carried out the attack and researched a “far right” online publication in the weeks leading up to the killing, jurors were told.

    Mr Mair, from Birstall, denies murder.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37978582

  • michael norton

    As I said a couple of days ago
    expect crude to drop.
    It is now lower than before BREXIT MEANS BREXIT
    $43.63 / tub

  • michael norton

    What, however, is very curious is the complete lack of interest from Fleet Street in the Austrian poll. Its significance may well be even greater than that of the Italian referendum, since Austria plays a pivotal role in the refugee disaster because of its place on the map; and the current leader in the opinion polls has shown an interest in an idea which must be giving nightmares to Mr. Juncker and the purists of the doctrine of free movement of peoples. His idea is to create a ” union within a union” to operate a more restrictive asylum policy than the rest of the EU. Its members might be Austria,Hungary,Croatia and the Czech Republic,thereby, and incidentally,beginning to fulfil the late Dr.Otto Hapsburg’s dream of rebuilding the Austrian-Hungarian empire. In other words, could this Austrian election lead to the next phase of the refugee crisis? Is its role to be a catalyst for the implosion of the European Union?
    http://reaction.life/populist-tide-might-sweep-away-eu/
    BY Robert Salisbury

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    NOTES ON HOW TO SPOT A FASCIST

    1. If he looks like a reincarnation of El Duce

    2. If he keeps his plans secret

    3. If he parades around like a peacock

    4. If he says all kinds to things so he can do whatever he wants

    5. If he bends by bribes all the rules to help out.

    6. If he tries to attain a new order
    __________

    A quick guide, settle on whatever Donald Trump does

    • michael norton

      GREECE hopes Barak Obama visit will boost chances of debt relief???
      http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-obama-greece-idUKKBN1391SC

      Obama, on his last trip to Europe before handing power to Donald Trump in January, will discuss the debt issue and the continent’s migrant crisis with Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, but his visit will also trigger protests by leftist groups and trade unions that have long seen the United States as an “imperialist” power.

      If I was Greek I’d tell him to FUCK OFF, if it wasn’t for the policies of Obama, the awful troubles in Syria would be considerably less.
      Which would have meant, very much fewer refugees landing on Greek islands.

    • Trowbridge H. Ford

      Surprised that Machon didn’t mention the Mediterranean Dialogue which is intended to make it Israel’s tool at the expense of what the EU wants.

      Could be how fascist Trump settles the problems.

    • kief

      So they want to update NATO with an EU strikeforce?

      Preparing for a Trump USexit.

      Imagine the increase in cost to each nation.

      • kief

        Now that does not mean the US have given up the ancillary rights. No doubt we will supplement the minimalist navy now extant in the member states. Academi is available and I’m certain you can get a fleet of missile frigates by the hour at rates based on the petrodollar.

        • Trowbridge H. Ford

          I hear the cheering from Jerusalem, the new capital of Israel.

          Accordng to Obama, fascist Trump has shown his colors by confirming no weakening of NATO. once he becomes POTUS.

          • Mark Golding

            What does a Donald Trump presidency mean – What did the Obama presidency mean? Was it Change, transformation, advancement or revision?

            The short term answer to that question will depend on whether Trump & co have the insight to take advantage of what I call the ‘survival split’ in the ‘deep state’, the permanent government, the UK Peerage and the intelligence apparatus; Those concerned about their own survival who use soft power or economic means to ruin and break their enemies and competitors in lieu of barbarism, bloodshed and burning.

            In truth Trump gained because that split opposed the increasingly risky games of a venal NeoCons power elite that has lost it’s cover, increasingly exposed by events, facts, learning, information and by whistleblowers such as Craig Murray, Julian Assange and more; ordinary people sick of terror, shock and awe.

            Crucially ahead of closing the door on these brief thoughts may I ask every good person to consider these venal Neocon elite and see their will to continue to push fanatic Islamism, to go on consuming our earth, to violate life itself with biowars, epidemics, terror attacks and false flag.

            Interestingly from a true hearted source, the flea in the ear is Rudy_Giuliani prepped by Kidon to enable ‘rub out’ should Israel be hindered… and Trump knows that.

  • Sharp Ears

    Theresa speaking at the Guildhall tonight to the vulture capitalists, gangsters in charge and chancers.

    ‘Tonight Theresa May began to bring things back to earth in the prime minister’s traditional speech at the London lord mayor’s banquet. Not for the first time, she gave an interesting but flawed speech. To her credit, Mrs May at least understands that Mr Trump’s election was caused in part by some voters feeling left behind by the unfairnesses of the liberal global order. She gets it about the downsides, in ways that too few politicians can emulate. She sees the need for politicians to understand and respond to that kind of anxiety. And she grasps that the overarching public policy question for western countries in the early 21st century is how to give voters the confidence that globalisation and liberal values work for them not against them.

    The questions she posed in tonight’s speech are important and serious. The prime minister is attempting to resolve the tensions that exist between the nation state, democracy and globalisation in the modern age. This is more important than speculating over whether Mrs May will be Thatcher to Mr Trump’s Reagan. But Mrs May’s problem is that she does not have the answer to her own big public policy question, especially in the destructive context of Brexit. The trick is to effectively manage globalisation. Ideally this would be done in as democratic a way as possible. It involves responsive controls over capital, goods and labour within the frame of liberalised trading relations, within which governments work together to set rules that businesses must follow. But that is not the answer towards which Mrs May’s Brexit-dominated government is groping its way. She is right about the goal – to manage globalisation in ways that preserve liberal values and that work for everyone – but she does not know how to get there, above all because Brexit makes that task infinitely harder.’

    The Guardian view on Theresa May and Donald Trump: questions but no answers
    Editorial
    Monday 14 November 2016 19.55 GMT
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/14/the-guardian-view-on-theresa-may-and-donald-trump-questions-but-no-answers

    This is written in the past tense in the Guardian……eg ‘she gave an interesting but flawed speech’ but she is speaking live on the news channels as I write. Therefore they are using a copy of the speech.

    She sounds both unconvincing and dull.

    • michael norton

      Rumen Georgiev Radev is a Bulgarian Major General of the Reserve and President-elect of Bulgaria.
      Radev served as Commander of the Bulgarian Air Force. He won the 2016 presidential election, as an independent candidate supported by the Bulgarian Socialist Party, defeating GERB candidate Tsetska Tsacheva in the second round.
      Radev is considered a pro-Russian politician.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumen_Radev

      Blimey, it looks like all the cards are falling in a way which will please Vlad Putin

  • Sharp Ears

    My final post about Remembrance Day.

    VIDEO: THE CENOTAPH 2016
    on 14/11/2016

    Every year on Remembrance Sunday, Veterans For Peace walk to The Cenotaph in London under the banner “NEVER AGAIN”. We hold a ceremony at The Cenotaph to remember all of those killed in war, including civilians and enemy soldiers.

    We say, war is not the solution to the problems we face in the 21st Century.

    http://vfpuk.org/2016/the-cenotaph-2016/

    ‘The biggest Veterans for Peace contingent ever marches to the Cenotaph on #RemembranceDay, wearing hoodies bearing the Harry Patch quote, “War is organised murder”, and carrying a banner saying “Never Again”. Including a number of U.S. veterans, this year they were allowed to lay their own wreath of white poppies bearing the message “Peace”.’

    Video on the link shows them marching and one singing.

  • michael norton

    The title of this piece is : thoughts on “Making Sense of Trump and What Just Happened”

    I understand Frau Theresa May has given a speech at the Mansion House.
    In this speech she reflects how Brexit, then the election of The Donald is going to change the Western World, the Elite must either listen to the electorate or be removed, that is the essence of May’s speech.
    Yet I mention the lessening of tension between the U.S.A., and Russia, the changing of the guard in Austria, France, Italy, Bulgaria, Moldova,
    most of the incoming administrations welcome the Brexit /Trump momentum and the easing of aggression with Russia.
    Countries now wanting to be more cooperative with Russia.
    Not unreasonable, I would have thought, yet my bit is removed, why, was it too far off topic?

    • glenn_uk

      If it was a quote from the Express, it should always get removed on general principles.

      What’s this “Frau” crap you keep using, as the title for every female politician these days? Bit stupid, isn’t it?

      • michael norton

        I have already told you, that Republic of Scotland started by calling Mrs.Theresa May
        Frau My,
        just continuing with the theme formatted by RoS.
        I hope that is of some help Glenn.

  • michael norton

    What a disgusting firm Ford are.

    US carmaker Ford is pushing ahead with plans to move some production to Mexico despite a threat by President-elect Donald Trump to impose hefty tariffs.

    Ford chief executive Mark Fields said it was “going forward” with its plan to shift production of small cars from its Michigan plant.

    However, he repeated assurances that no jobs would be lost due to the move.

    Mr Donald Trump threatened during the election campaign to impose a tariff on car imports from firms like Ford.

    He said companies which moved jobs abroad would be charged “a 35% tax when they want to ship their products back into the United States”.

    The president-elect also said he would build a wall with Mexico and renegotiate the terms of the North American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta), which includes Mexico.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37994061

    One could ask how moving Ford Transit from Southampton, England, after fifty years, to Asiatic Turkey, helped Ford workers in Southampton?
    It is Globalization, which is killing ordinary jobs in the West.
    This is the main reason Donald Trump is going to be the next President of America.
    How are Ford going to get their cars through the wall?

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Donald Trump gets Chris Christie, his campaign manager, to put together on a national basis, particularly in the Key Rust bBelt states, the corrupt way he got elected twice as Governor of New Jersey, and when it results in Trump getting elected POTUS, he fires him over a long-standing family complaint to hide the vast voter bribing, and no one. especially the media, pays any notice.

    No wonder the USA is such a crap hole.

    • Trowbridge H. Ford

      Don’t understand what you want, Kief, but there is a great article to be written about how Trump stole the election, putting together pockets and lines of unemployment and long-standing grievances in key Rust Belt states along the path of the PennEast pipeline, the imbalances of employment in places like Detroit and Milwaukee, and the problems along the banks of Lake Michigan, thanks to hired pollsters bringing out who the voters might be, and underworld figures making sure that they registered and voted.

      New Jersey Governor Chris Christie could blow the lid off the whole plot!

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Most reassuring to see that America is again run by all white, male Americans.

    And there is no truth in Trump not living in the White House, only waiting for the staff being cleaned out of token whites. It will be all blacks, cleaning the toilets, making the beds, and straightening up after the all nighters.

    Let’s hear it for Jim Crow by the party of Old Abe!

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    See that Trump, after having denounced Christie, and having kicked him to the curb, is unexpectedly seeing him again in this white man’s Bedminster hangout.

    Is Trump already afraid that he might be becoming his ‘Deep Throat’?

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        Gerrymandering constituencies plays a role here, but no one is paying attention.

        See that a Wisconsin court has identified the GOP has undermined Democrat rights by making constituencies which favor its candidates, though The Guardian, of course, makes out absurdly that it didn’t help our Hitler Light getting elected POTUS.

        Any biased drawing up constituences helps the minority party, and this is true not only in Wisconsin but also in other Rust Belt states,

        Elections are basically for local offices, and if the system favors the minority, their voters are more encouraged to vote than any majority, resulting in minority party voters voting tham majority party ones,

        Our Hitler Light has greatly benefited from this systemic bias,

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Loved the media double-talk, especially in the Daily Mail, about why Trump apparently fell out with Christie though there is an unexplained photo of them still seeing one another.

    Seems Hitler Light didn’t like the way Christie handled the campaign, pushed himself to its head during the victory celebrations, and still didn’t approve of the handling of Bridgegate.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Now the Obama administration is lobbying against Hillary Clinton calling for a recount in the election results, especially in the key Rust Belt states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, because of suspected hacking of automatic voting machines because it would interrupt a smooth transition with the Trump machine.

    Obama wants to hold what he has done and attempted over Hitler Light’s head rather than see that a fair result was obtained.

    Some democracy!

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