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154 thoughts on “How Many Tories Can You Fit Round a Small Table?”

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  • Ben

    Is Craig deluded, or pathologically stubborn?

    Can’t an issue in the UK be related to other important occurrences in this Wide World?

    Apparently, I digress again.

  • RobG

    Here’s a thought experiment:

    If Mélenchon becomes President of France, and Corbyn becomes the prime minister of the UK, what are all the psychos and loons going to do?

  • cynicus

    I hope the vacant chair isn’t for bull-riding Babe Ruth – described an hour ago on Newsnight as a “big beast.”

  • M. Velein

    Please in the future explain your exhibits more fully for the general audience. Does the photo show the BBC’s crisis hotline for Jimmy Savile sodomy victims?

      • Zebedee

        Oh yes and as it says here:

        https://grousebeater.wordpress.com/2014/12/30/the-strange-case-of-craig-murray/

        “He’s got a big mouth, self-opinionated, a sulker. [sic] Meaning, he has empirical evidence for his views, is prepared to voice protest, and shows annoyance if rebuffed. The accusation is one usually made by somebody opinionated.”

        As observed today when Craig says:

        https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/04/the-cottonwool-election/

        “When I assure you of things, you should believe me. I do not use such language unless based on direct knowledge. Please revisit that entire article: I promise you it is worth reading.”

        P.S. Craig, when requesting something it is considered good manners to end with a question mark.

        • Zebedee

          Oh yes Craig, fancy answering some real questions? You and I are about the same age (You’re a year older to be exact) so why did you voluntarily join the FCO when, by the age of 13, I had decided there was no way I was going to do nuclear physics because that would involve me making WMDs for our imperial government?

          Is it because you were too thick to see that we have an imperialist government?

          I can only conclude the answer to that to be “Yes!”

          • glenn_uk

            Society exists, and the world exists. The FCO must exist, for our government to function in it.

            There’s more to nuclear physics than making bombs – what about the medical applications, and generating electricity? That’s on-going and decent, conscientious people are needed to make it work properly.

            I hope you see the analogy you presented works both ways.

          • Deepgreenpuddock

            Very harsh, very self regarding comment. What 13 year old is a fully realised moral being? Oh yes-how about the Guru Maharaj, of the erstwhile ‘Divine Light’, who is now in his dotage and wanders around somewhere in California.
            I would put it to you that the reason you did not become a nuclear scientist is that you couldn’t do the maths. That isn’t an insult,btw. It applies to 99.99% (or thereabouts) of the population.
            I did maths to 2nd yr uni level btw-and I realised that I was bumping into my ceiling (forcefully) all through that year. It was a relief to bow out with dignity distinctly frayed, if mostly intact.

          • Ba'al Zevul

            DGP – I deeply sympathise. It was the cosine formula which did for me, much earlier in the process. (Well done on getting beyond A level). Your comment has reawakened my interest in working out why it is that maths appears to be so effortless for some, and such a roadblock for others of similar apparent ability.

          • nevermind

            Thanks for your personal Daily Wail assessment and splurge here, you sound like Zebedee’s doggydo when wallowing in moral self aggrandisement for not becoming a nuclear scientist.

            What, if you are actually Scottish, have you got to say for a positive development of Scotland here?

            Just coming to bitch and bumble? fear not space will be given to all here, we adopted cyber stalkers and mediocre misogynists such as Habby, there’s plenty of space for your wee little ‘splurgy’ here, you never know, Fred and Anon1 might even adopt you.

        • John Spencer-Davis

          “P.S. Craig, when requesting something it is considered good manners to end with a question mark.”

          Craig’s sentence is phrased in a perfectly acceptable manner. You are determined to find fault, no matter how petty and ridiculous your nitpicking, aren’t you?

      • John Spencer-Davis

        Your question implies that because Craig fell for a fully adult young woman, he does not care about victims of paedophilia. That is a disgusting and shameful thing to imply.

    • M. Velein

      Aha, Zebedee, I take it you’re the bald fellow in the photo. Everyone seems to be shifting uncomfortably about on their buttocks.

  • Herbie

    The Tories shouldn’t win an election in a time of austerity.

    It’s the Lib Dems. The spoiler party.

    They’re the real problem.

    They’ll need to shore up the neoliberal vote, now that the Blairite faction are incapable, and UKIP have been dissolved.

    It’s time people saw these Lib Dems for the political frauds they are.

    • Habbabkuk

      It’s curious to call the Lib Dems the “spoiler” party, isn’t it.

      Of course, they “spoil” things for those who hate the idea that anyone other than the Socialists should form the government.

      But they certainly don’t “spoil” things for the democratic process as such.

      People who seem to believe that there should only be two parties are not much better than those who believe in one party systems.

      I hope Herbie doesn’t belong to the one party crowd.

      Although that would certainly explain a lot.

      • nevermind

        The Lib dems aren’t the spoilers they could have been had they any idea of the implications of a refere3ndum that did not go their way, but after a weeks of speed dating, being hurried up by the offshore enthusiast in the City of London, they barely could raise their wrists to abstain from the issue then.

        This shows us that the Lib Dems had no clue whatsoever of the implications, that they were desperate to go to bed with the Tories and begotten by their big ideas, the perks and power.

        Now they are claiming that the wind has always blown in the direction their flag is waving today, and tomorrow? ah well lets see what the gullible voters will let us get away with.

        3000 jobs sold down the drain in London, EU business that will now be done by Frankfurt, Milan, Paris, Berlin or Warsaw. But wail not ye Zebedee’s, more food distribution centres, they are not banks, will open and soon every 2 out of 8 working people will live in low wage poverty, thats taking back control over the increases in suffering.

        • reel guid

          “…EU business that will now be done by Frankfurt, Milan, Paris, Berlin or Warsaw.”

          It would be good to add Edinburgh to that list.

        • Sharp Ears

          They colluded in the despoliation of OUR NHS in the passing into law of the Health and Social Care Act, 2012. One of their MPs was even one of Lansley’s ministers – Paul Burstow. Long gone and forgotten. Anne Milton (now dep chief whip) and Simon Burns were the others.

          Did anyone see the first episode of this series on Ch 4 last night?

          ‘That reflected the most disturbing fact of many put forward by this documentary. The NHS is haemorrhaging its future: one in every 10 junior doctors is currently quitting over the demands of a system that’s been pushed to breaking point. That is not only a shocking waste of talent and training but an indictment of those who should be ensuring that the taxpayer money poured into their education pays off in the long run.

          Confessions of a Junior Doctor balanced politics with human stories, and it rang with a truth of experience that no politician’s waffle could hope to counter.’
          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/04/19/confessions-junior-doctor-review-must-watch-anyone-cares-nhs/

          ‘Destabilize. Demoralize. Dismantle.’ That is the Tory mantra.

          • Stu

            Anyone who lived through 2010-2015 and believes that the Lib Dems are a progressive option is a fool or a Tory in denial.

          • michael norton

            or
            Tony Blair – Peter Mandelson – Jack Straw – Neil Kinnock

            Troughers

    • D_Majestic

      They are active and as you say they are the problem, Herbie. I speak from personal experience.

  • Herbie

    This is amusing:

    http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-90337/TS-1171142.mp3

    Bill Gates has invested a few of his billions into a pedagogic system known as Common Core, to be rolled out in public schools across the US.

    Common Core has been attacked for turning children into robotic processors of information, rather than thinking human beings.

    Chris Kendall phones Bill Gates old posh private preppy elite school to see whether they’ll be using Bill Gates’ Common Core.

    • Habbabkuk

      Interesting to see that the above commenter appears to be against billionaires dishing out some of their billions for philanthropic purposes.

      Perhaps he would prefer them to keep every last cent for themselves and their family.

      I imagine that would, on balance, give him even more to complain about.

      Habbabkuk says : be positive about philanthropy, don’t be a wrecker.

    • Stu

      I am skeptical about any political action involving wealth hoarders.

      However Common Core seems to be a positive to response to the Charter School movement which should be opposed at any opportunity. Our current predicament is summed up by a movement driven by billionaires to ensure that poor children are not properly educated.

  • Seersuckers

    Its Bolshevism 2.0 all right, the original Russian version came with its trotskys, the US version now has its chucktoddskys,madcows and mahers, and the UK version its nickrobinsons,sopels and kuennsbergs. You gotta hand to the shull though, regional accents and esler is as well taqqiya as he could ever be, albeit the deep throat give away of the gay cohorts at the Beeb. But really now its all about Bolshevism 3.0, about david milliband, has he completed his tutelage in kissingers charity across the pond, and what will be its next subterfuge? Will it be in time for the upcoming GE?

    • Habbabkuk

      “…of the gay cohorts at the Beeb.”
      __________________

      Homophobia?

      PS – I got deleted for merely asking whether former President Hugo Chavez had been gay.

        • D_Majestic

          Yes- but that was item specific, not items general. Do you have a brain? This was to H.

      • AliB

        Would it matter if he was? What exactly is the point you are trying to make other than show yourself as being abnormally interested in someone’s sexuality.

  • reel guid

    Former Tory MP Mary MacLeod, who lost the Brentford & Isleworth seat to Labour in 2015 has put her name forward for the Tory nomination again this time.

    Londoner Mary has Scottish parentage, was educated at Glasgow University and according to Wikipedia is a member of the Church of Scotland. After losing her seat two years ago she was appointed an advisor to David Mundell.

    If MacLeod returns to the Commons, Mundell loses in DCT and the Tories fail to take a rural seat off the SNP could she be Mundell’s and Davidson’s recommendation to Theresa May as Scottish Secretary?

    • Habbabkuk

      Asking that sort of question shows once again that you are one of the most original and deep thinkers currently posting on this blog.

    • Stu

      The Tories have impressively deep roster of Scottish MPs in English seats.

      I think it’s something like 14 or 15. Alberto Costa would my guess.

  • Frank Hovis

    Although I visit this and other sites fairly regularly, I don’t as a rule post comments but the pedant (and cartographer) in me has led me to break with tradition after I read this comment by Zebedee in response to Republic of Scotland:

    [“Only Scotland is tiny, well according to the BBC’s weather map that is”

    The technical term is “Mercator Projection” but you no doubt prefer to think of it as a conspiracy against Scotland.

    Allow me to reassure you that it is simply a matter of translating a globe into a flat map that is easy to use. And no, Marcator wasn’t an English Tory but a Flemish geographer and cartographer. No conspiracy there RoS.]

    It’s not possible for the BBC weather map to use the Mercator projection because Mercator is a “Cylindrical” projection and if you notice, when they zoom out to show more than just the British Isles, the map becomes more and more spherical and shows the poles. With cylindrical projections, the further you move away from the equator, the greater the distortion of the features and at the poles, the distortion becomes infinite and therefore it is impossible to depict them using cylindrical projections. Hence Greenland and Northern Canada and what you can see of Antarctica on a Mercator map look ridiculously large. The BBC map most probably uses an Azimuthal equal area projection. So in fact if the map were a Mercator map, this would have the effect of making Scotland look larger than it really is compared with England, being further away from the Equator. Hope this clears things up and I also hope some of you are still awake after all that.

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