I genuinely cannot believe what I have just seen on the BBC national UK news. A report on the general election in Scotland in advance of tonight’s Scottish Leaders’ Debate. I know we have become used to the unfettered Tory bias of the BBC, but this was at a level of propaganda which has left me seriously disturbed.
In the 6 minute piece, four different BBC presenters told the viewer that the election in Scotland is dominated by the issue of a second independence referendum – which is not true, but is precisely the way that the Scottish Conservatives are trying to frame the debate in every single one of their leaflets and broadcast appearances.
They then had a piece by Sarah Smith from Kelso – a walk from the border with England and the second most Tory place in Scotland. Why choose somewhere so entirely unrepresentative? Then in Kelso they found an “independent” journalistic commentator to explain the situation to us. This “independent” journalist was the Conservative’s arch Conservative, Alex Massie of the Spectator, of Murdoch’s Times and often of the Daily Mail, possibly the most right wing man in Scotland.
Did the BBC introduce Massie as a Conservative, or at least as from the Spectator, known to be the Tory house magazine? No. They passed him off as an independent journalist. Did they balance him with another commentator who was not a raving Tory nutter? No. Did Massie’s contribution count against the time allocated to the Tories in the broadcast under election rules? No, he was “independent”. What did he tell us? Why he confirmed exactly what four different BBC presenters told us in the piece, that this election is all about the second Independence referendum. Exactly as the Conservatives say. Because nobody in Scotland ever thinks about anything else, obviously.
You are not going to believe this. Even as I type, at 18.24. a fifth BBC journalist has just told us tonight’s debate will be about “that fault line in Scottish politics, a second Independence referendum.”
This insistence on framing the entire debate in Tory terms, of trying to ensure that the metaphorical battle takes place only on Tory chosen ground, is disgusting. The second referendum has already been initiated by the Scottish Parliament after the SNP and Greens won a majority of both seats and popular vote in the last Holyrood elections. That is where the competence to initiate the referendum lies.
The BBC approach would at least have a certain honesty if they were saying that, as this election is, according to the BBC and the Tories, all about a second referendum, therefore if the SNP wins in Scotland there should be one. But that is not the terms in which they are framing it. What they have told us, in terms, is that should the SNP win less than 90% of the seats, that represents a rejection of the second referendum. Yes, that really is the BBC narrative, day in and day out, again and again and again, here in Scotland.
Just to complete the intellectual dishonesty of the snivelling hacks, the same people who characterise 35% opinion poll showings for Corbyn in England as total disgrace and failure, characterise 25% poll showings for Ruth Davidson in Scotland as the most sensational victory and triumph.
Of one thing I am sure. After Independence, the Imperial Broadcasting Corporation at Pacific Quay does not need to be reformed. It needs to be immediately closed down on day one, and every single employee needs to be handed their P45. Every single last one. Anybody who has worked in this obnoxious state propaganda organisation can have no part in building a new society.
Unless they have another vocation, like shovelling horseshit. I have never seen so many horses in Scotland as featured in the BBC report from Kelso. Tally-ho boys, what?!
It is so odd that the BBC is not even trying to moderate their bias. It is becoming both ludicrously obvious and also worrying because how do they think they can actually get away with it. I fear that they may in fact have judged the mod correctly.
The situation also extends to the most disgraceful political commentary I have ever heard on BBC Radio 4 I herd a snatch of the one o’clock news programme and it consisted of the most disgusting denigration of Jeremy Corbyn-such as making reference to him ‘soiling his pants’. It was not in any way clever or funny-it had descended into a straightforward stupid schoolboy abuse of the lowest quality imaginable. It was straight character assassination and utterly disgraceful.
I can only assume that the movement in the polls is creating an anxiety in these people. Is it an act of desperation . I am not a Labour party member or even supporter , but the media presentation of the election has plumbed depths of tendentious squalor unimagined even a few weeks ago.
“I herd a snatch of the one o’clock news programme and it consisted of the most disgusting denigration of Jeremy Corbyn-such as making reference to him ‘soiling his pants’.”
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I didn’t catch that. Can you – or anyone else – tell us whom that expression came from? The name, please. Thanks.
https://twitter.com/equalityjustice/status/866336352048119808
Mark Mardell according to the above made that reference.
Mark Mardell on The World this Weekend on radio 4 at 1 pm today. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08qxfcq#play At 35 minutes 23 Mark Mardell said: ‘One cynic told me expectations are so low, IF CORBYN TURNS UP AND DOESN’T SOIL HIMSELF, IT’S A SUCCESS’. Utterly disgraceful ….
Thanks for that- I was in the car going to a shop and only caught a very small snippet, but the soiling expression was just one element of an outrageous series of puerile insults.
I suppose my point would be that it is all very well to make such comments -it’s a rough old business but if there has to be the opportunity to reply- but there was not even a token attempt to provide an alternative perspective.
Thank you, Caroline. So it would appear that Mr Mardell was using something someone else said.
(Just for the record. One can of course argue that Mr Mardell could/should have used a different quotation with the same general thrust).
Deepgreenpuddock:
I heard that piece by Mark Mardell on The World This Weekend on BBC R4 (21/5/17). The point of it seemed to be to claim that Corbyn was a dupe of the hard left, Seamus Milne in particular. Looks like ‘they’ need to get the boot in because of the disastrous Tory manifesto. On the 6 p.m. news BBC R4 were running a Sky News story about Corbyn and the IRA. Expect more Crosbyite dead dogs about Hezbollah and Hamas.
On 20/5/17 heard one continuity announcer ask listeners to phone in to Any Answers ‘now that the winter fuel allowance was to be means tested’. And there was me thinking that the election was meant to determine whose policies were to be implemented.
Again FranzB your last paragraph gives me something I had not spotted. Many thanks once more. Interesting that a Tory victory is apparently a ‘Done deal’, then. Watch this space, as the saying goes.
It is beyond doubt that the day after the GE – if the number of SNPs remains at the present number or not too far below it it – La Sturgeon will be claiming that the outcome represents the clearest possible mandate for a second independence referendum.
number of SNP MPs
Regretable and true. Spin at its best.
Terrible.
An Augean stable situation. Where is Hercules when he’s wanted?
Pacific Quay situation very similar to Pugin’s Palace SW1A 0AA.
Sharp Ears – Visited Plymouth Hoe recently and exactly the same thought crossed my mind – never mind the Armada Drake – where are you now when we need you most: ” Cap’n are thou sleeping down below”?
Hello Craig, I can see you annoyance, but to sack the whole BBC appears a bit extreme. I live in NZ and basically we no longer have national public TV service. It’s absence is intensely antidemocratic. In comparison your having even the BBC is something to be intensely grateful for. I am regularly made envious by the programmes and political debate you can find on the BBC whereas everything here is truly infantile. You mightn’t need to do this if the BBC board of governors actually reflected opinions of the general citizenry, and not those of a very richly endowed clique. It all comes from the top and the cosy relationships between politicians and privilege and media. Perhaps as many as possible of those commenting here and agreeing with you could write a formal letter of complaint about the broadcast. I think misrepresentation of Alex Massie would be the firmest ground. If your statements about him are correct, then to present Alex Massie as “independent” is demonstrably wrong and the BBC should be made to defend themselves.
Hi John. We actually don’t have a public broadcaster either. We have a propaganda outlet called the BBC which is publicly funded.
It depends where you come from. What about here, for instance?
https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/
Undoubted, persisting and troublesome proof of the left wing bias of the BBC.
Perhaps the problem is that we are all retreating from the middle? That we can echo our disgruntlement in forums like this, where they reverberate and crescendo, to such an extent that one becomes as unreasonable and as prejudiced as those you are criticising? I make the observation as Craig insists the BBC, employer of 23,000 people, producer of series upon series of excellent programmes in drama, music, science, current affairs etc, earner of hundreds of millions of pounds overseas, should basically be blown up, Guy Fawkes fashion, to deal with a political issue that could be dealt with rather less emotion and a bit more reason? To be replaced with what? Be careful what you wish for, Craig.
I’m afraid I don’t consider myself biased and prejudiced John for simply expecting the BBC to meet the requirements of its own Charter. The conduct of many within it is quite disgraceful. As such I believe the BBC is no longer fit for public funding.
John. . you are so right. . .
Hi John, i agree with you about sacking everyone at the BBC being harsh and highlighted the fact that many people who work there are far removed from the journalistic or editorial staff. Craigs response was at once patronising, ie explaining his background which i was well aware of having read some of his books, then rather sinister repeating his assertion that all employees should be sacked and that under the new order they could reapply for there old jobs. He even used the example of the bricklayers building the gas chambers which i though was a bit inappropriate. I replied that how kind that would be of him, but how about those on low paid jobs. How would they survive in the interim. He has yet to reply. I was trying to be helpful as the article was something i would have posted on social media and thought that he may have changed the article to refer to journalistic and editorial staff but i am not holding my breath
I have replied to you again above. There are plenty of unemployed qualified people who would love those jobs. Why is it more moral to give the job to someone who used to work at the BBC, as opposed to giving it to someone else who also needs a job? Genuine question.
Just so there is no misunderstanding Craig are you really saying Canteen worker, who may have sold Sarah Smith a bun or a cleaner who may have cleaned a toilet where Jakie Bird had a dump should lose there jobs? A simple yes or no please, not a politicians style answer.
Yes.
I want to close down the entire organisation and replace it something very much smaller. I don’t just want to rebrand BBC as SBC and tweak the propaganda.
To be recalled that it was the Conservative Greek govt of Antonius Samaras that closed down the Greek state broadcaster ERT.
(Now reopened but I don’t know if the former technicians and canteen workers got their jobs back)
Antonis Samaras
Your anger is justified, if your total purge is not – quite. Like many people who grew up in the 1950s I was a passive consumer of BBC news and current affairs, secure in the ‘knowledge’ that it was the world’s gold standard for quality and integrity in broadcasting – until 2014.
First, we deal with the Union, then we come for the BBC.
You remind me that t seems very likely that the BBC is not what it was.
Since we’re in the political field, I today learnt to my considerable surprise that Labour MP Dennis Skinner – aka the Beast of Bolsover – is 84 years old.
Is he standing for re-election at the General Election?
Diverting?
Hope so. 85.
The BBC manipulated things so that much of a Westminster election debate dwelt on devolved matters. Ruth Davidson was allowed to get off the hook to a great extent, although Sturgeon did quite well in bringing it back round to reserved topics.
They have went even further with the debate.
They had a nurse who claimed to be using food banks and was attacking Sturgeon and was allowed to speak three seperate times. Twitter claims that she is married to a Tory councillor and that she works for BUPA not the NHS. This may or may not be true but what is undeniable is the same woman was in the audience for BBC QT in Edinburgh two weeks ago and was siiting next to Tory councillor who happened to ask a question.
In the reaction room afterwards repulsive unionist toady Jackie Bird couldn’t stop gushing about the plant nurse. Disgusting.
Cheers for this Stu. Metron Media strikes again!
Did you see the actual debate Craig? It centred mostly on devolved matters and involved a lot of aggression from Davidson early on. It was also made by the same Media company that does QT which kind of explained the nurse in the audience who openly attacked Sturgeon.
BBC’s landmark headquarters is £110m over budget as building projects top £2bn
The BBC has overspent by an “astonishing” £110 million on its refurbishment of Broadcasting House, pushing the cost of its three latest building projects past £2 billion.
25 Feb 2010 –
The development is four years behind schedule as a result of “weak governance” and poor planning, and its budget has spiralled to £1 billion, according to a damning report by the National Audit Office.
A further £188 million was spent on the BBC Scotland headquarters in Pacific Quay, Glasgow, £62 million over budget. Moving Radio Five Live, BBC Sport and three other departments from London to the “MediaCity” site in Salford, Greater Manchester, will cost £877 million.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7317281/BBCs-landmark-headquarters-is-110m-over-budget-as-building-projects-top-2bn.html
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McQuarrie’s been moved up to become Director, Nations and Regions on the new BBC Board which replaced the BBC Trust. £250k pa
http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/managementstructure/biographies/macquarrie_ken
The new ‘director’ is Donalda MacKinnon. £170k pa http://www.bbc.co.uk/corporate2/insidethebbc/managementstructure/biographies/mackinnon_donalda
The ‘Culture Secretary’ was Karen Bradley an ex Deloitte and KPMG operative so extremely well versed in the nation’s culture, media and sport activities.
The UK is a fascist state.
@Craig
A suggestion/solution you might pass on –
I recall shortly after the murder of Jo Cox and the initiation of the challenge to Corbyn as the Labour leader, hot off the heels of a heavily orchestrated smear campaign to label the man an anti semite, there were calls by Angela Eagles (before she got swiped aside by Mr Pfizer) for the both of them to sign up to a pledge or contract to run a clean and fair campaign (the irony). A poor attempt to make Corbyn look bad backfired by team Corbyn and co using it to hold their opponents to account for their smears and lies, while also trying to limit the amount of them.
I would suggest that the SNP or Labour campaign teams purpose a similar pledge, contract or commitment with the media over bias and their coverage.
Call them out on their bias, by making them sign up. Make sure (minus the Cons, UKIP & BFirst) all the other party are ready to sign up to it when its initially announced, turn it into a domino effect and put the likes of the BBC, Sky and any print journalist that wants access to their candidates backed right into a corner to commit or have no access. The irony and look on Laura K’s face having to sign such a pledge would be hilarious in its own right.
As a sign of the commitment have all candidates wear a ‘fair coverage’ badge and anytime the bias starts being raised up candidates point to the pledge, take the interviewer to task or walk away from the interview. Make it blatantly obvious to the public there is a serious campaign of bias in favour on the Tory party.
I doubt you would have any trouble getting Labour, SNP, Plaid, Greens, Libs all committed which leaves the Cons/Kippers pissing in the wind.
Cut the legs from under them.
Well, if they are all saying this election is about independence, and we win, they have justified the dissolution of the Treaty of Union.
Bye Bye Union. 🙂
Seems a bit unfair to sack the majority of BBC employees who don’t work in the news.
Main news of the day was the Middletons at Englefield House. For a short time the late William Benyon employed me refurbishing the decomposing books in his inherited and thus not to his own taste library. One of three who stood up to Mrs Thatcher on poll tax. I saw many blue posters for his son Richard in Wiltshire last weekend. Will he have the nerve to whisper the old mare in no 10 a few bits of handy advice, like his papa? Hope so.
Richard Benyon is a leading member of the grouse shooting lot and did everything he could as an environment minister to frustrate efforts to end the wildlife crime which underpins that squalid industry.
More on Benyon.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/05/broederbond-election-game-can-play/#comment-679019
Just typical BBC supporting the Tory propaganda machine. The sooner this lot are out of power the better. TV licenses are being paid to listen to this shameless lot. I hope and pray that the SNP are successful in the forthcoming election and stick it up to this lot!
The borders..representative of Scotland?
Thank you, Craig. I usually try to avoid watching BBC news and have done so since being so disillusioned by the reporting of the independence referendum and indeed by its coverage of Scottish politics in general. My brief lapse, when I watched the item you described, reminded me of why I had given up in the first place and I resolved to avoid any further lapses – I’ll use the time saved to read your blog instead.
I’m from the other side of the border in Newcastle and even I could see what a load of bollocks it was. Bit like only interviewing fishermen during the run up to the referendum.
Its not Tory but deep state. Did you see the secret services bundle May away from Parliament during the fake Westminster attack, locking everyone else in the House for hours.
A helpful word to those whose BBC it is to plant people in TV debate audiences. Best not to have them on TV shows twice in the space of a fortnight. Best if your plants don’t have their hair dyed bright red so that people easily remember them. Basic really.
Would that be the NHS nurse who isn’t married to a Tory councillor you are talking about?
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/nhs-nurse-confronted-nicola-sturgeon-tv-debate-smeared-snp/
Yes, Fred, that’s the one.
https://twitter.com/alistair_kidd/status/866399519017193473
Interesting that she appeared 11 days ago in the BBC Question Time edition from Edinburgh, sitting next to a voluble man who spoke for over a minute against independence votes. She nodded in agreement and smiled at him and what he was saying. Are they friends?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qfq5b/question-time-11052017
34.55 in
Then she pops up yesterday in the audience at the leaders’ debate. The venue is the same. The Mansfield Traquaire. She is even given a seat in the front row, with her red hair and red shoes, so you can’t miss her.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08rymzw/election-2017-scottish-leaders-debate#group=p05210v2
Then there is the coverage of her on the BBC website which I have outlined.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/05/bbc-news-pure-utter-tory-propaganda/comment-page-3/#comment-679266
She has become a BBC Scotland stooge. How she gets time to do any nursing or visiting foodbanks, goodness knows.
I note the BBC Scotland’s Fatboy Brian Taylor was given first say from the Press Room.
And they jeer at North Korea!
“Interesting that she appeared 11 days ago in the BBC Question Time edition from Edinburgh, sitting next to a voluble man who spoke for over a minute against independence votes.”
She was asked back by the BBC because she didn’t get chance to ask her question on QT.
There is nothing sinister about it.
People have to use food banks for all sorts of reasons, even people with jobs.
I don’t know this person’s circumstances all I know is because she dared stand up for nurses to Nicola Sturgeon she was met with a barrage of nasty lies and abuse from Nationalists on social media.
Right or wrong she should have the right to put her case to the First Minister without having to face personal abuse from the mob.
The abuse she has been subject to certainly makes one wonder about the mindset of some of the Scottish nationalists and their non-Scottish supporters. Not that I would describe that mindset as totalitarian – yet.
Well, Fred, as someone who refuses to condemn John William Buchan for tweeting “somebody should take the Nat bitch out!”, I think your comments on this matter are worthless – unless you want to condemn vile attacks now?
Habbabkuk, the mindset you described are, fortunately a tiny, ignorant minority – on both sides. Fred only condemns one side and quietly supports the unionist extremists’ actions and bile. What do you make of Fred’s mindset?
Who the fuck is John William Buchan? He’s nothing to do with me.
More on the SNP smear campaign.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/05/nicola-sturgeons-snp-tony-blairs-new-labour-heading-crash-landing
Perfect example of your “all that matters” mindset, Fred.
I don’t make personal attacks against you. You are the one who refuses to discuss the issues and attacks the person instead.
Opponents of independence have often complained of extreme online abuse by so-called “CyberNats”, which they say is a feature of nationalist ideology and the divisions created by the 2014 referendum.
https://www.ft.com/content/aace2290-3f06-11e7-9d56-25f963e998b2
More on the SNP smear campaign which you try to counter by launching a smear campaign against me.
Fred, I’m not a member of any political party and never will be. I do support independence, whereas you support the union. However, we also differ in that I condemn anyone, from any party, who crosses the decency line, whereas you do not.
Speaking of state propaganda I settled down tonight to watch the new season of Fargo, to discover it was about….
Russian infiltration into america with a grim looking Russian soldier and everything,
It’s really tiresome – I wondered why season : was suddenly delayed for a year, now here we are watching s shitty (and not very good) politicised Fargo. Boring.
At one time it use to be IRD of the Foreign Office who use to manipulate the BBC.
Sack everyone at BBC Scotland after independence is it? I’m afraid, Mr. Murray, very afraid, that independence may well unleash right wing attitudes such as this. To characterise BBC Scotland as the Imperial Broadcasting Corporation, as you just have, and then to suggest everyone be sacked, is intellectually incoherent. If it has an “Imperial” culture, then it’s clearly a top down organisation and the majority of staff members cannot and should not be held responsible for the culture & attitudes engendered by those at the top of the “Imperial” food chain. You can’t have it both ways. Further, presumably an independent Scotland would have laws which would prevent the wholesale sacking which you evidently now support. Scotland is not Uzbekistan. “Anybody who has worked in this obnoxious state propaganda organisation can have no part in building a new society.” Really? What an extraordinary statement from someone who describes himself as a Human Rights Activist. Shame on you, Sir.
Just what do you propose doing with them? Open a camp?
Don’t be ridiculous. The Bbc is biased, so what? Deal with it by making the case for independence on it’s own merits, as the present First Minister does, as did her predecessor.
Nobody is forced to work there. I would certainly sack them all. They can wander off and, like everybody else in society, look for a job not dependent on the poor license fee payer.
Craig.
” Nobody is forced to work there. I would certainly sack them all.” Really? You do not, cannot, know the circumstances behind each person’s employment in the BBC, or any other organisation. These are people, probably the majority of whom have families to support & not all of whom would agree with the way the BBC is run. So “you” would sack them all. Simply because you don’t like how it’s run? And the legal basis for the sacking? Your assertion of bias may or may not be true, it’s hardly a legal or moral justification for the action you suggest and is undemocratic to boot. Presumably, and I hope you would agree, that an independent Scotland would be a democratic independent Scotland. As such, any allegations of bias should be investigated, perhaps by a parliamentary committee and, if bias can be shown, then appropriate action be taken. But this would not amount to the extreme action you advocate. Your policy reads like UKIP at their worst. “They can wander off and, like everybody else in society, look for a job not dependent on the poor license fee payer.” No one has to pay the licence fee if they choose not to. No, it won’t do. If the the pro-independence side cannot, using the tools that democracy provides, make a positive case & overcome the inertia & institutional bias that has built up over the past 300 years, then it simply means they need to carry on trying. That is democracy. I do not want an independent Scotland to be either fought for, or gained by a lurch to right wing, anti democratic policies such as this. Your threats do the independence cause a disservice.
Roy,
You are entitled to your view. My view is that people who believe the UK will not use the full resources of the state to lie and cheat and distort in every way possible, and that we can win just by being nice, are severely deluded. This is a bare knuckle fight and in my opinion those who mistake it for a Platonic dialogue are doing Independence a disservice. I respect your opinion and you are entitled to it. I am entitled to disagree, and I do.
Of course you are entitled to disagree, I have no issues there & disagreement is how democracy progresses. Is that too Platonic? I don’t think so. What I take issue with though is your (frankly outrageous) suggestion that wholesale sackings take place. This is clearly an unreasonable & likely illegal approach & smacks of right wing, dictatorial, top down, my way or the highway political posturing. The very thing I want to see stopped in an independent Scotland & in all other countries. As for it being a “bare knuckled fight”, it’s a hard, long road to counter 300 years plus of so called “Union”, yes, no doubt about that. However, advocating policies which are undemocratic, counter productive, unfair, unreasonable & highly impractical (they would take on their employer for unfair dismissal & have an excellent chance of success, what has say, a secretary or an IT person in Pacific Quay have to do with BBC Editorial policy?) You need to identify the bias, reform the organisation such that it is clearly regulated & accountable. That, in my opinion, is the root of the problem & it is this that needs addressed. I do agree with a lot of your comments on your blog & I enjoy reading it. On this, however, I think you are way off the mark. But I do appreciate you taking the time to personally engage with me.
Roy,
It most certainly is not illegal. If you close down an organisation, the people in it become redundant. sadly it happens every day, to much more deserving people than those who maintain the state propaganda machine.
Closing down a publicly funded broadcaster on day one of an independent Scotland is one of the barmiest, most counter productive, heavy handed ideas I think I’ve ever came across. Most disappointing. What would be the worlds’ response I wonder? Your idea sounds like the action a military junta would take after a coup de’tat!
What’s next? Get John Maclean of Die Hard to singlehandedly storm Pacific Quay and have them transmit a still graphic showing the Saltire with the words “Standby Citizens” emblazoned thereon? Right wing claptrap and someone of your intelligence and background should know better. In your world, what price Democracy? “If you closedown an organisation” Who is going to close it down? An SNP Government? That’s one way to lose the next election. Would they have the legal authority to do so? Presumably, the status of the BBC in Scotland would be a part of subject to a negotiation between the Scottish Government and Westminster. Reform it, yes, Rename it, yes. Shut it down on day one. Not only is this an ill conceived, short sighted & reactionary response, it is quite frankly, daft.
There is a great Tory Conspiracy. Of the SNP Baaaaaaaaaaaad. When really the SNP are the best Government Scotland has had. The whole GE. Has been turned into IndyRef by the Unionist parties. This GE is a Cover for Teresa May . Realising she cannot face doing Brexit. Ruth Davidson. Is getting together with Kezia’s Labour. And Willie Rennie’s Lib Dems. To have a majority. Against the SNP. The people of Scotland want there Country back. From Westminster’s Government. If we can join . We should be able to just leave. Are we not an Equal Union. Or is some more Equal than other’s.
Not really Mary – the Tories know that they only have to tell the scots they shouldn’t support independence and a majority will vote for the SNP keeping labour out of Scotland, the Tories still in power and the people of Scotland well away from that evil Jeremy’s polices of nationalisation education and social justice.
It’s an easy game. May will never grant another referendum for you when she can dispatch progressive policies so easily. All she has to do is thow around s few condescending insults and you’re all off to the poll booths to vote Scotland – the labour right are also in on this – it’s their job to keep left wing policies out of Westminster, by siding with the Tories again you’re all off to vote snp.
The countries of Britain only have one hope now, and that’s Jeremy corbyn. Once he’s been removed we will enter a very dark phase of British history. Pandora’s box has been opened now.
I saw this,I thought I was going off my head,thank you for letting me know I’m not alone and most importantly,not off my head.!
One of the main reasons Trump won last year’s election is that a lot of people were utterly disgusted by the American media’s shameless lack of balance and shilling against Trump and for Hillary. I shared that disgust, although in my case that was reflected by my vote not for Trump, but for Jill Stein.
Perhaps the British public will react similarly.
Lysias: “… although in my case that was reflected by my vote not for Trump, but for Jill Stein.”
Personally, I hope people won’t be as stupid as you obviously were, when you voted Trump into office.
Unless you were mad enough to think that Stein actually had a chance to win, all you demonstrated was that you were precious enough to cast a “purity vote”, apparently oblivious to the fact that given a binary choice, choosing “I want a pony” is definitely not the grown-up thing to do.
Spot on Craig – outrageous distortion.
I’m glad that this is exposed. These are the. Thoughts that go through my head everyone I watch the news.
The only person I wouldn’t fire btw, is the actor in Gary Tank Commander
They’re afraid of losing their license fees if they annoy the Tories. They’re careerists who put preserving their careers ahead of their professional duty to inform the public.
Hi Tony.
I disagree, partly. Because I became vegetation in India and felt great for it. Meat is a kick.
It’s very easy and nice and healthy when society is set up around vegetation diet (as you know) and we can all do a bit to help it in that direction.
And IMO it makes people far more aggressive that we all pay a price for. Let alone the price generations to follow will pay with the environmental costs. I’m not a fundamentalist who thinks we should not eat meat, but yea.
Laters.
Absolutely agree, Ishmael. People eat meat entirely unthinkingly, because it’s assumed it is necessary. In actual fact, a huge price is paid – in terms of ecological damage, suffering to the animals themselves, and harm to one’s own body.
Yea, it’s a shame many don’t get the chance to try, as it’s not something people can reasonably assess in the short term. Ie “id rather chomp of mean atm” like most would say, but it takes time.
Guess It’s like being a Tory (: .You know they would feel so much better not being one. And society would be much nicer place for eveyone if they didn’t exist.
🙁
I don’t eat meat I think unthinkingly – I eat it because it tastes great. I was a vegetarian for years, it nearly killed me.
“I don’t eat meat I think unthinkingly – I eat it because it tastes great.”
I’m sure every nonce doesn’t molest kids unthinkingly, and does so because they think it’s just great too. That’s hardly a moral justification.
However, if you’re doing it (eating dead animals) out of medical necessity, that’s a different thing altogether. You have my sympathies for having to engage in a reprehensible act, repeatedly, in order to stay alive.
It was all going so well for Theresa… until her manifesto, all 88 pages, hit the buffers. Now this gem.
Theresa May’s election guru Lynton Crosby in tax haven scandal after pocketing six-figure sum
Sir Lynton Crosby’s windfall from a mystery firm came despite the PM’s vow to hit duty dodgers
22:00, 21 MAY 2017
‘Aussie Sir Lynton, who devised the Tory “strong and stable” mantra, is a shareholder and former director of now defunct Rutland Holdings Limited based in Malta, where foreign companies pay as little as 5% in corporation tax.
Latest accounts show it paid out £826,000 in dividends in 2015, when he was working in the UK to help David Cameron win the election.
Sir Lynton, known for his attack dog style of PR campaigning, was due to receive £150,000 of it.’
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She has hired Lynton Crosby’s firm to run her election campaign even though it practises the opposite of what she preaches. Mrs May said a citizen of the world is a citizen of nowhere.
A perfect example is Crosby, an Australian who runs consultancies on three continents and uses tax havens, legally, to bank profits.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-mays-election-guru-lynton-10471574
Geez, she literally seems to have the anti matter of a moral centre.
Im not a citizen of anywhere. It’s all regressive nonsense tbh, imo. Bits of paper constucted for the advantage & domination by a few who manage to convince people we need them. Against overwhelming evidence of unthinkable harm.