This article was published on the Sun’s website at 2.50am, that is hours after the Manchester bombing.
It was updated at 09.50am, long after the decision to suspend electioneering. I am not going to link to the article, but the comments below it from the public are unanimous.
I pray that the vile people at the Sun have miscalculated, and in future the Sun will be as welcome in Manchester as in Liverpool.
Tell you everything you need to know about your disgraceful rag and those you champion. You really are all in it together.
Corbyn listens…..as he was doing decades ago to members of our society troubled by the situation in Northern Ireland
Where is thr coverage of the Tory MP who was actively in the IRA?
Why not question our government’s relationship to the Saudis? Corbyn does.
Distasteful reporting at times of national sorry re Manchester
Read this and see if you still feel the same about Corbyn & McDonnell :
http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/jeremy-corbyn-and-john-mcdonnells-pious-homilies-to-the-peace-process-will-not-wash-they-wanted-the-ira-to-win-31550428.html
There’s more of the same from other sources.
The ‘Tory MP’ you’re referring to is a Tory Councillor. She was a teenage IRA gun-runner who was romantically involved with the IRA head at the time. She wrote a book about it all. Amazing to think she’d end up a Conservative councillor in the U.K. decades later!
Another solid piece, albeit from ‘the most right-wing man in Scotland’ according to Craig’s hysterical description of the BBC Scottish leaders debate t’other day :
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/jeremy-corbyn-should-not-be-allowed-to-rewrite-the-history-of-his-support-for-the-ira/
A man genuinely worthy of admiration, the amazing John Hume :
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/john-hume-the-politician-who-made-peace-possible-1.2469785%3Fmode%3Damp
A great legacy: peace – but I note John Hume came under harsh criticism by those with closed minds and hidden agendas when he was in the process of trying to bring peace to Northern Ireland. It’s interesting that Nelson Mandela was cited as one of Hume’s heroes: I think The Sun and Thatcher considered Mandela to be a terrorist at a time when the British establishment accepted apartheid as a reasonable system of government in South Africa. It’s so easy to stir up past hurts: so hard to deal with the violent results. The Sun sells papers by having something eye-catchingly shocking on its front pages – and that’s how Rupert Murdoch profits. We, the British public, have to deal with the hatred The Sun loves to stir up. Murdoch has interfered to an unacceptable degree in every one of our general elections since Thatcher’s day. This recent vilification of Corbyn and McDonnell (at a time when we’re dealing with the shock and pain of the Manchester attack) is typical Murdoch, throwing filth at our Opposition leaders – not because, as an American-Australian, he cares about our society, but because he wants a government that will further his business interests. I want a peaceful and fair society – and believe the best chance of having that is under a Labour Government led by Corbyn.
The Sun is a loathesome despicable rag, I totally agree. That’s a separate issue from Corbyn & McDonnells effectively trying to stymie the Anglo-Irish agreement. I really wasn’t aware…it’s unforgivable. And the outright dishonesty of presenting themselves as peace-brokers! The gall of it.
I’ll still vote for my local Labour MP on the 8th, he’s not a Corbynite, but Christ that’s shocking behaviour from that pair.
It just struck me that all this essentially comes from the nations state, the very idea of it. Without this who would want to attack who?
You would not want to attack a bunch of individuals unless one associated them with the group idea of a nation state, or similar entities. And of corse without all the funding & arms these gangs within our society get they could not cause the massive relative chaos they do for “other” states…
This is why I think (though no doubt with best intentions) Ed Snowden is so contradictory in his attitude. The truth is none of this will ever end while some cut the world up into little bits, really only ever done for the advantage of a few who claim this gives them some rights over others within an arbitrary space on the earth.
So no Craig, i think fundamentally your on the wrong side of history. And the way you think things “should be” never did exist in the positive light you have portrayed it in. Ie finding some representative we like to use great power for us.
The changes we NEED are way beyond these sticking plasters, that are again really only ways for a few to believe they are helping while actually only helping themselves. And my feeling is this short experiment with states have proven itself a colossal failure. The fact some don’t see just tells me it’s in there advantage not to.
It’s a wonder you didn’t say that people were urinating on the bodies and picking the pockets of the dead. Utter scum Sun reporters…………….
Absolutely disgusting………………This just proves a) the bias of these papers and b) how heartless and low-life they are.CHILDREN AND OTHERS HAVE DIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So Diane Abbott said “every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us”.
Just the sort of person you’d want as Home Secretary of, erm… the British state, then.
All depends doesn’t it. Though I think states are fundamentally illegitimate there are degrees of harm i.e. worse and better.
Some accumulate central power and some can help distribute it via (for instance) the distribution of wealth, the major embodiment of power in this system that individuals can use to act. Just as corporations do that own the political system at present.
Sigh, Not that I would expect the simple minded to understand such nuance, but maybe someone more intelligent reads this reply to that crude remark.
Utterly disgusting
Disgusting article at such a time. Have you no shame?
Re. Ball @ 12.19
Yes as I understand the first Irish nationalist Wolfe Tone was a protestant. As in Scotland and Wales the biggest self-government tradition in Ireland were constitutional nationalists and they hoped to get Home Rule as their reward for supporting Britain in WWI. But their volunteers died in the war, leaving a smaller violent tradition relatively stronger and politically stronger after the ‘Easter Rising’.
The nationalists were ready to do a deal and have a devolved Ulster within an United Ireland, but this was opposed by the sectarians who wanted a United Catholic Ireland ruled from Dublin. The failure to get agreement led to the Ulster revolt and the separate but linked Irish civil war between the nationalists (Fine Gael) and sectarians (Fianna Fail). After a period the sectarians became the government of the Republic and had a territorial imperial claim to the North.
The more recent ‘troubles’ in the North was due to de facto communist civil rights campaign for ‘catholic rights’. Nothing in itself wrong with that, but it was communist in the sense the civil rights campaign only referenced catholic rights and was seen by the protestants as a Trojan horse campaign similar to the Czech view of German Sudetenland rights.
A genuine civil rights campaign recognises that everyone has rights and need to be negotiated to get a settlement. It was when the catholic sectarians recognised the orange tradition and withdrew the territorial claim you got the peace process.
That said after a period any war becomes the reason for the war and original grievances are forgotten to be replaced by new ones and the big change that helped progress matters was ironically 9/11, as the US agreed to stop funding the terror groups in return for UK backing their neo-con ‘war on terror’!
Dave,
Still so wide of the mark I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. You should seriously stop posting about something you have no clue about.
You claim the ”first Irish nationalist was Wolfe Tone” a Frenchman as a retort to pointing out some of the most celebrated people of the Irish Independence movement were made up of Anglo Irish protestants. Fuck me.
Charles Stewart Parnell, Isaac Butt, ‘Sir’ Roger Casement, Joseph Gillis Biggar, James Connolly (Scottish), Padraig Pearse’s father was English. Tomas Clarke (English), The United Irishmen who fought in 1798 were founded by Protestants.
Civil rights in Northern Ireland only referenced Catholics because they had NO RIGHTS under Protestant control. No access to housing, limited access to public transport, limited access to education, no jobs in the civil service, no access to the justice system. An apartheid state.
And you blame the Catholic community for having the audacity to defend themselves when the ‘noble’ orange mobs started burning them out of their houses. You’re nuts chap. The orange men knew if the demographics kept changing in the nationalists favour like it is today their grip on power was finished. So they started killing people. These are historical facts. Take a night off at the lodge and read a history book not written by a WASP. Education is a good thing.
Civil rights in N.I 2017 = Nationalists welcome and integrate asylum seekers, Unionists burn them out of their homes. Nationalists vote for Gay rights, the DUP veto it. Nationalists fly the EU flag in their communities, Unionists fly the swastika and Confederate flags. These are facts.
No claim has been withdrawn. ITS CALLED THE BORDER POLL. A vote on the island reuniting. That’s democracy. No one recognises the ‘orange’ traditional: all it does is cheer about fenian blood. Its pathetic embarrassing shit, that most English people are repulsed at.
9/11 had nothing to do with funds stopping. The Good Friday agreement was signed in 1998. The peace process up and solid. There was no reason to raise funds.
35 million Americans claim Irish heritage. 10% of the US population. Its probably double that in the UK. There will always be massive support in both countries to remove that imaginary, divisive line on a map. The island will be reunited whether the Orange cavemen like it or not.
Its not a retort its me agreeing protestants played a big part in the promotion of Irish nationalism, but it was a nationalism that included the green (meaning catholic) and orange (meaning protestant) traditions as represented in the flag. It was the failure to secure that difference in the constitutional settlement due to catholic sectarianism that led to an on-going civil war only symbolically ended when Paisley and Ahern shook hands at the Boyne as a symbol of a shared history rather than of conflict.
How low can you go?
YOU ARE A DISGUSTING PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A SO-CALLED ‘NEWSPAPER’.
The S*n is a vile disgusting gutter rag run by parasites and weasels , you have no real journalists , this is NOT journalism !
This is a disgrace and I hope I see you and all of you involved with this toilet paper gone as soon as possible !
Your anti-Jeremy Corbyn cartoon and content is not acceptable. The job of your ‘newspapers’ is to share news not promulgate propaganda to promote your own political wishes and bias. Frequently out-of-context items and downright untruths are unacceptable at every level.
This same vile, mendacious filth was in the Daiily Record too, don’t forget that shower of sh–e. The Torygraph are making Corbyn-IRA noises too. Clearly a concerted effort from the sick and evil propagandists to use the blood of children to help their insane quest to stay in power.
Vile tory paper. Undemicratic attempt at brainwashing. People are brighter than to fall for this non humour by a soiled paper tycoon. Hes clearly fearful that his easy ride is coming to an end
I commented condemning the article and stating I’d reported it to IPSO. I didn’t read a single one agreeing with them (29 when I looked) and later in the day they disappeared altogether. I truly hope this backfired on them
Outrageous, I cannot express how bias and vile your newspaper articles and so called cartoons are about Jeremy Corbyn. This is a disgusting use of misreporting, which is extremely false and misleading. Yet again Hilsborough comes to mind. I am not taken in by your vile lies and gutter snipes but as you well know , there are many people that are!
Scumbags
Disgusting, nauseating, but not really surprising.
The lowest of the low and Tory party are just as complicit in this type of gutter press
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Annie. An intelligent lady with sensible arguments.
Id feel a lot safer if we had people with this approach heading up our so called services.
I didn’t think that this disgraceful publication could sink any lower than it already had until yesterday. Sickening.
Just 33 minutes before the Manchester bomb went off, The Sun had posted an article by former IRA member Sean O’Callaghan headed ‘Jeremy Corbyn might not have planted a bomb but he made it easier for those who did, says former IRA man: IRA men and women derived great encouragement from the solidarity openly displayed by the Labour leader and John McDonnell’ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3623936/jeremy-corbyn-might-not-have-planted-a-bomb-but-he-made-it-easier-for-those-who-did-says-former-ira-man/). I really do have to wonder just what The Sun was up to.
It begins to looks very much as though The Sun have been part of somebody else’s co-ordinated strategy. From the article:
“Useful idiots, agents of influence and fellow travellers.” A sentence heavy with terrible irony.
Sean O’Callaghan was a British agent within the IRA like so many others.
Puts his opinions, that’s all they are, into perspective. Was he paid for that article?
I’m not a resident of the UK but in Australia where i live we have the same media with the same Rupert Murdoch. Rather than waste my words on that arsehole i’d rather send my thoughts to the victims and families in Manchester.
Its difficult to say so publicly but you can sense a disproportionality in the state response that feeds a scepticism about the whole event. Its intention beyond suspending the election campaign is to promote a backlash mentality requiring a May rather than a Corbyn. But as the Zac Goldsmith’s campaign also managed by Crosby showed a hostile campaign is not necessarily a winner as an alternative appeal for calm is also a vote winner. And as the Jo Cox event showed, outraged headlines do not necessarily alter how people intend to vote.
Its just the rattling of the paper as people do a natural thing with it. that gutter press release just lights up the fires of labour hearths. Sucjos and psycophants with nothing else of any use to anybody to say.
Why O Why aren’t the SUN (and others) saying what should really be said.
What about the failure, the utter failure of our security services to stop this ? No blame for them ? They are responsible for the security of this country aren’t they?
Yet it’s proposed that we give them more powers to snoop on citizens via MASS surveillance that obviously removes from the ability to target know possible threats.
Instead shouldn’t they fired or face some kind of trial? Blood is on their hands yet again.
Typical bile and hate from the Sun! Is this supposed to be journalism?
The disproportionate state response to these events is evidence of collusion, because its a crime under existing legislation to glorify terrorism. And yet immediately the event happened its described by the state as terrorism with extensive coverage about terrorism in the MSM.
And yet when it involved the IRA the Government response was to starve the terrorists of the oxygen of publicity, but now they promote the terrorism narrative despite it being a crime under anti-terrorist legislation to do so!
Manchester, emulate the city at the other end of your ship canal and boycott the Sun. What Liverpool did after Hillsborough you can do after The Arena.