UPDATE
The site is just back up at 16.42 on 21 March having managed to slip like the Tardis into another dimension and thus dodge the massive DOS attack we are under. over 50,000 separate IP addresses simultaneously throwing up millions of hits. The attack has not actually stopped and does seem to have a human intelligence changing terms and directing it, which could make for an interesting afternoon. Once our excellent techs get a minute from fighting it, we will post the cloudfare graphs as evidence.
I just thought I might give you a little taste of what it means to your personal life to express dissent from the government line in the UK in 2018. Let me start with this combined effort from the UK’s most popular website, Guido Fawkes, which fanatically supports the government, and the Blairite crew at “The Guardian”.
The red ink is original.
Now it is true that, when I was sacked as Ambassador by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office for blowing the whistle on extraordinary rendition and the Blair government’s misuse of intelligence from torture, I went into a terrible depression and voluntarily spent ten days or so in St Thomas Hospital (not a mental illness facility) for treatment. I have never tried to keep this secret, indeed it is a major part of my memoir “Murder in Samarkand”. It is also true, as I have always acknowledged, that I have had other less serious depressive episodes treated at home and been diagnosed as bipolar since I was 20.
That we stigmatise anybody who has ever had a mental illness, write them off and view their views, on anything, as invalid, is an attitude I had hoped we had moved past last century. Indeed, if this hatchet job was done on anybody writing within the Overton window, then the Guardian would be dedicating editorials to condemning it. We have in fact moved to the old Soviet position, where disagreement with the official line equals mental illness. I quite confess this sort of thing does in fact hurt me – if you cut me, do I not bleed?
The use of the term “conspiracy theorist” has been used to denigrate my views, ever since Jack Straw as Foreign Secretary lied to Parliament denying that the UK ever obtained intelligence from torture and denying the existence of the extraordinary rendition programme, which I was supposed to have fantasised. Anyone interested in this history can watch this series of videos of my evidence to a Parliamentary Committee on the subject. It explains why I start nowadays from a position of being so hated by the British state and its acolytes, and also of course enables you to judge for yourself whether I should be ignored as insane.
Ever since then, the state and corporate media have described me as a “conspiracy theorist”. Even though there is now acceptance that extraordinary rendition did happen and presumably they, somewhere inside, know I was telling the truth. I find people are taken aback to discover, for example, that I broadly accept that there was no US government involvement in 9/11 (other than minimising the Saudi role) and 9/11 discussion is banned on this blog – [warning it still is].
I cannot in fact conceive of a more outlandish conspiracy theory than that the Russian government secretly manufactured and stockpiled novichoks, hidden from the OPCW, and secretly trained assassins, only to blow the whole operation on a retired spy they let out of jail ages ago. Yet nobody calls Boris Johnson a “conspiracy theorist” for positing that.
But the abuse is not confined to what people publish about me. I receive some extremely unpleasant emails of which this is an example:
I do hope Mr Temis can get money back on his anger management sessions. But there has been rather a lot of this, including some by old fashioned mail. which I find myself prodding suspiciously before opening :-).
There is of course an open effort to extend the term “anti-semitic” to embrace any criticism of Israel. It is also particularly used by Blairites to attack anybody taking any position seen as supportive of Jeremy Corbyn. I am not in the least anti-semitic. Jewish people have made a disproportionate, indeed magnificent, contribution to the world in the fields of science, music, literature, commerce and others. That does not alter the fact that Israel is a rogue state when it comes to chemical weapons, the subject currently under discussion. It refuses to ratify the Chemical Weapons Convention and destroy its chemical weapons stocks, and refuses to join the OPCW.
Plainly someone attacked the Skripals. In stating that it is not the case that Russia was the only state who could have done it, I have included Israel amongst other possibilities. Israel might wish to frame Russia for the deed, as Russian actions in Syria have severely conflicted with Israeli ambitions in Syria and Lebanon. But I have never said it was, or was most likely to be, Israel – it could be the CIA framing Russia, it could be a non-state actor entirely (which I am inclined to think most likely – this could come from those close to a victim of Skripal’s treachery, though I still think the Orbis intelligence connection has been overlooked).
Some of the most vitriolic abuse has come from state and corporate media journalists. Falsely categorising me as an insane racist allows them to ignore any challenge to the establishment line on Salisbury and absolves them, in their own minds, from any dereliction of duty in not questioning it.
In a chilling example of the way they move to crush dissent, here a prominent Blairite corporate media journalist, James Bloodworth, attempts to ensure that consideration of other possibilities than the government line is not carried even in the private domain. He harasses and bullies an individual attempting to force him to accept Mr Bloodworth’s version of what I had said, rather than what I had actually said. When Mr Law (who as a lecturer in philosophy presumably has an attachment to intellectual honesty) refuses, Bloodworth sanctions him by pulling out of his literary festival.
It is very difficult to understand what is happening in the UK today, but when the BBC on its flagship news programme holds a discussion of the Salisbury attack under a huge photo-shopped picture of the leader of the opposition in a Russian hat standing outside the Kremlin, it is plain a fundamental shift has happened in society. The Salisbury attack has perhaps taught us something massively more important than any of the stuff about chemical weapons, and that is that Britain is further along the road to becoming an authoritarian state than we had realised.
File under https://consentfactory.org/2016/10/28/the-pathologization-of-dissent/
At present the Foreign Secretary, Rt Hon Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson Con Uxbridge and S Ruislip CFoI, is appearing in front of the Foreign Affairs Committee. He is taking a question from Mr Chris Bryant Lab Rhondda LFoI, who is sitting next to Mr Mike Gapes Lab Ilford S also LFoI. Entertaining. Ch 233 Freeview.
2.32pm
14:32
Johnson says he was “surprised” by the strength of the language in the joint UK/US/France/Germany statement last week, and the support for the UK’s analysis of what happened in Salisbury.
I bet he was!
Yes I heard him say that. 🙂 He should have been called A B de Piffle Johnson.
Sorry to have repeated the news item Mochyn. I did not look back.
Here is the Guardian’s take – starts on page 2 at 14.02
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/mar/21/pmqs-may-corbyn-boris-johnson-brexit-tories-threaten-to-vote-down-brexit-withdrawal-treaty-unless-may-compromise-over-fishing-politics-live?page=with:block-5ab264d9e4b044506eec09df#liveblog-navigation
There is a well done summary of the latest progressions of the case in Moonofalabama.
I allow myself to copy a comment I left there to corroborate a thesis I suggested some posts above:
” Establishing that Porton Down probably lied about having analyzed traces of the fragmentation (!) products of the allegedly used poison raises other questions. Why did they choose such a thorny path? Why didn’t they use ricin against the background of the poisoning of Georgi Markov by a secret service of a Warsaw Pact country? Why not botulinum? Both are by no means traceable to an origin and this enhances a suspicion against FSB or GRU based on the identity of the victims.
A manifest thesis, often brought about, those typical assassination weapons were dismissed because they are useless in a bigger follow-up incident. It is often assumed the use of “novichok” was meant either as precursor or threat with a false flag attack in Syria, but that is against logic. DoS annonced to hold Russia responsible for any weapons grade chemical attack in Syria months ago, also hinting at bringing it to the ICC. They could have used, or can use VX to mimic a “russian” attack in Syria.
But with the EU it’s different! Possible perpetrators in Porton Down and within the British Government had to assume, that they might have to go an “extra mile” in implicating Russia in a chemical attack on the european continent to deny the EU the loophole of accounting it to “Sarin” and “ISIS”.
The preliminary result: A lightning fast postponement of Brexit for 9 month to the end of 2019, to british conditions afaik. Brussels denied them to the UK fiercly even around 8 days before. It’s not all about Russia – at least not directly.”
Wonderful article. I totally agree with your comment re The Guardian newspaper’s attacks on people who have had treatment for mental health issues. One can only surmise that your evidence and testimony terrifies the life out of these commentators.
May you endure these terrible attacks on you.
You have my great admiration and gratitude for your contribution to this matter. Thank you.
The Government is panic-stricken that their attempt to wrap themselves in the Union Jack will unravel – and rightly so. Well done, Craig.
Agree. They’ve clearly gone too far to backtrack now. This is a very dangerous situation.
It is a hard road you have chosen Craig, & I imagine that it might have been easier to take that much more profitable road of becoming a version of Squealer, with the provided trough suitable for the slurpings of those who care little about the truth, integrity or anything else that might distinguish them from a pack of squalid pressitutes.
Thank you for your appearance within the kangaroo court of hysteria. Voices like yours are sorely needed in these times of lies masquerading as truth, issued forth from those who I suggest that only a fool or one wearing very rigid blinkers, would take as gospel without any question.
Good luck & good health.
Sincerely I join. It is difficult for us in Russia to listen to the rivers of accusations from Western politicians and Western media. It is very good that there are people like you. It is good for Western countries and for Russia.
Good luck to you and good health. You are a brave man.
We can empathise. It’s just as difficult for us in the UK to listen to rivers of shit from most of our own government and media.
cambridge anals,bell pottinger,g4s and serco all very kosher companies with the best interests of team gb in mind all of the time.
the good ladies gentlemens and trans folk mp and lord are not traitor.
boris bloater and may day mayday are not insane no jeffrey epstein type video audio jpeg negatives exist that could possibly be used by foreign powers for blackmail.
gchq mi5 and 6 are doing an amazing job they need more monies for more failure the porton downers have a 60 million pound nest egg for
zombie snuff chemi culls.
porton downs full of this stuff shirley it is a no brianer no brainer that they should be using these precious vitamins on the great british brexiteers in the northern zone regions is it not
Has any one posted up this link to Moon of Alabama.
Boris Johnson admitting that Porton Down held the nerve agent alleged to have been used and some names of extremely dodgy Brits from Military intel – now private – with the direct linking of them to this and the false flag chemical attacks in Syria, white helmets and even Christopher Steele.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/russian-scientists-explain-novichok-high-time-for-britain-to-come-clean.html#more
Boris Johnson…
“As for the issue of beneficial owernship, he says the UK is ahead of other advanced countries in having a register of beneficial ownership of companies.”
Britain has no such register. There has been some vague waffle about having one for overseas entities that own property in Britain. It won’t happen.
As for being “ahead of other advanced countries?” the “trust” form of hiding beneficial ownership spread from Britain to most of the world.
Then he immediately says anybody who wants to make beneficial ownership transparent can f*** off:
“He accepts there is an issue with overseas territories, who have different rules. One issue is whether it is right to London to tell them what to do.”
Yeah, right, it would be so bossy, so disrespectful to the memory of Ayn Rand, so bloody well against the natural order, to interfere with money laundering in Bermuda, or to make rich people declare what they really own, as of course is also true in the Crown Dependencies, and for that matter in the City of London and the Stockbroker Belt and…listen, you smelly oiks, you bunch of chavs, are you taking the piss?
de Pfeffel spouting piffle again:
3.15pm
15:15
Johnson says Moscow World Cup will be like Hitler hosting Olympics in 1936
Austin says the idea of Putin using the World Cup as a PR opportunity fills him with horror. He says it will be like Hitler using the Olympics in 1936.
He says he thinks England should boycott the tournament.
And he says it will not be safe for England fans. They will be at risk of violence. And the embassy will not be able to help them.
Johnson says he agrees with Austin’s 1936 Olympics comparison.
I think the comparison with 1936 is certainly right. It is an emetic prospect to think of Putin glorifying in this sporting event.
Johnson says Moscow World Cup will be like Hitler hosting Olympics in 1936.
He says he has thought about this a lot. He mentioned it when he came to parliament, he says.
But he says, on balance, it would be wrong to punish English fans or the team.
He says Austin’s point about the safety of fans is well made.
The government needs an urgent discussion with the Russians about this.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/mar/21/pmqs-may-corbyn-boris-johnson-brexit-tories-threaten-to-vote-down-brexit-withdrawal-treaty-unless-may-compromise-over-fishing-politics-live#comment-113842633
Speechless, utterly speechless.
They should be careful what they wish for. Russia may decide to revoke all UK visas for the duration of the World Cup for security reasons.
The way things are going I think the ordinary English football fan will not be believing the government’s line by then. Russians would be glad to have them and show them how welcoming they are.
Prince Charles and Hillary Clinton have also likened Putin to Hitler in the past few years. None of them seem to realize or care that 28 million Soviets were killed by the Nazis, that it was the Soviets who smashed the Nazis or that those are the first things every Russian kid learns about their country’s history.
Never forget that Putin‘s brother died as a child during the Nazi siege on Leningrad, preumsbly by hunger or torn spart by German granades. Everyone can be sure that Putin snd his familiy NEVER forgot this and, not only therefore, really KNOW what war means. Killary and Charrles sirely don’t….
One person involved in the siege (and honoured with thd „Iron Cross“ for … what?) was later German Chancelor Helmut Schmidt as a young lieutenant. He never said „sorry“ for this part of his biography, instead the „university“ of the German Army was named after him. EVERY grown-up person could have known in 1943 that the siege (with Hitler‘s declared aim to kill ALL inhabitants) was a grave war crime.
Boris Johnson is a disgrace, a complete embarrassment, how anyone would want such a odious man in any government post let alone Foreign Secretary is beyond me.
Johnson also says (on being asked the question. “Was Putin validly elected).
No, of course he wasn’t we all know that, however the Tories bunged the DUP a billion plus quid to retain a majority to keep full power, is there much of a difference?
He actually was validly elected. He would win even if the vote was 100% cast iron fair. The West just finds it very hard to believe that so many Russians vote for Putin.
“He actually was validly elected. He would win even if the vote was 100% cast iron fair. ”
Agent Green.
Well, I have to disagree there, the nearest and most popular candidate after Putin was conveniently barred from running.
As for Putin’s popularity, the wests constant attempts to undermine Russia, has allowed Putin to strong arm Russia power. We in the west helped create Putin’s popularity otherwise he’d not be looking at 20 odd years as president.
the most popular party after Putin is the communists.
All other parties do not get more than 2%
I think you are referring to Navalny who is not popular in Russia – he is popular in the west as he is supported and funded to create disruption. He makes many visits to the EU.
His policies are racist – look at his videos where he calls Chechens cockroaches.
He is beyond the pale.
You need to look at Putin as a politician as his policies appeal to the left ( pensions, maternity benefits for three years,). And the right with stron security policies.
Russians
“…..the nearest and most popular candidate after Putin was conveniently barred from running.”
You don’t mean Navalny do you? There is no indication that he would have been the next strongest. Here are some early polls which show less than 5%. The west has tried to push Navalny as a strong candidate. It would have been better for Putin to have let him run and prove the point but the judges got in the way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Russian_presidential_election,_2018
James.
Popular or not, that’s not the point, it’s the ability to be able to run as a candidate, of which he was clearly not allowed to do.
SA.
Ive heard likes of Johnson and Farage, make odious comments, and quite a few xenophobic comment at the last Tory conference.
However they were not denied the right to run for office.
Navalny has no popularity in Russia. Would probably get 1-2% of the vote.
The communists have been the main opposition for some time. If anyone else was to win, it would be the communists.
Hitler viewed the 1936 Olympics as an opportunity to showcase Germany ‘aryan supremacy’ which is why he was so outraged by the brilliance of Jesse Owens who won 4 gold medals despite being decidely non-aryan in complexion.
How can that compare with the World Cup where noone seriously expects Russia to win the World Cup?
Geet stuffed Boris.
Makes me laugh to think that Jesse Owen would have been told to use ‘black only’ hotels , loos ,cafes ,
and back of the bus yet lauded for the supreme athlete he so certainly was.
Hypocrisy is all around.
Craig , as for that so called journalist who spits his dummy out if you dare to have a different viewpoint , or put forward a variety of possibilities , is best is ignored .
I am utterly disgusted by the MSM and it’s malevolent misleading of the public .I am also disgusted by their bleating about free speech for themselves while they continue to malevolently denigrate and lie.
Can anyone tell me what it means when I try to get on this site that my brrowser is being checked by my ptovider, Safari?
Yes, I just noticed that too. Never experienced it visiting any other site before.
Yes-me too. Never seen it before today at 15.55. I have sophisticated anti-malware, intrusion prevention, etc. So they can eff off. Probably Maybot’s ‘Panopticon’ to keep us all (Her) safe.
I got that too.
Was it something to do with a DDoS attack? I noticed Craig’s site was unavailable for a while.
Yes, there is obviously an ongoing DDoS attack.
Get the BRAVE browser – doesn’t track you either. Much better than safari.
Craig will have activated it to prevent DDoS attacks.
https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170076-What-does-I-m-Under-Attack-Mode-do-
I get a sort of similar notification using a public Wi Fi connection. Where you using one?
when I came to view this site, a message popped up saying ” checking your browser before proceeding to this site” or something very similar and it had an id below the message: “Ray + a numeric string.” It has never appeared before. Maybe we are being watched,!
This time, the message came on again, but then went immediately off.Think you are right, Mary Paul.
I just had it too. Anyway to continue a point made above are all of the Tory Party behind Boris and Teresa. I emailed by Tory MP last week and got a courteous reply from the MP’s PA and I didn’t get a strong message of support for the PM as I often do. The week before last Amber Rudd was urging patience. Has she been cheering strongly for Boris/Teresa? Yes a lot of Tories were whipped up to a frenzy in the House, but I rather suspect some could see that this might unravel and are biding their time.
Maybe ? Come on now…
That’s not much of a response. Actually I am a Brexit voter and do not think that all Tories are evil bastards. I’d imagine there is considerable concern in the Cabinet and the Tory Party about the way this is playing out: itvcould translate into more lost votes for the Tories in (the month of) May.
Rely was to Mary in regards the DOS attack.
Google has changed something within the last few hours, with regards to accessing Craig Murray’s blog. I don’t know what they have done, but I suspect Craig Murray is now on a pseudo “banned list”, and if your IP address has not previously accessed his blog, your connection might well be refused, and if you do manage to connect, your IP address, together with all your browsing history will be logged.
Craig Murray, has put himself on the line, as a man of enormous courage, almost single handedly standing up to this outright EVIL. He should wear his Badge of Courage with honour.
The following message is what I now get. I have not yet tried an IP address, that has not yet accessed his blog, to see if “access is denied”
“Checking your browser before accessing craigmurray.org.uk.
This process is automatic. Your browser will redirect to your requested content shortly.
Please allow up to 5 seconds…”
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry, but I strongly suspect this evil will self destruct in time. Hopefully, it will not destroy the human race in the process. All these bastards should be in jail.
Tony
I’m no techie bu I think that it software that prevents a denial of Service attack. Someone may be trying to take the site/blog down and it has sprung into action? Just my guess.
Ryan, You are probably correct. Hopefully Craig’s ISP will provide details. If it really is Google, then we are all in deep sh1t.
There is nothing for visitors to the blog to worry about as you are just seeing the cloudflare protection mechanisms come into action.
The attack is still ongoing but more targetted blocking is now being used by cloudflare.
Thanks
I just had it too. First time ever in 10 years.
I just now had the same message Tony. Anyone else?
For those getting the “checking your browser” message.
Cloudflare anti DDOS protection, to prevent attacks and bots.
Yep the site was not accessible for a while so maybe it suffered a DDoS attack and this is to prevent it happening again? Just a thought
Nothing being posted now.
It finally worked again.
Continue to publish reasoned comment.
Know that you have support out here and that we are gratefully for people of courage who publish and give us hope in thoughtful, intelligent and moderate journalism.
Craig has just Tweeted this
“DOS attack on our blog. Over 50,000 separate IP addresses used simultaneously generating millions of hits. A state level attack. Will publish cloudfare evidence once we can get back up.”
Must have been the Ruskies. Stands to reason.
Yes. We must immediately accuse them of the crime and give the 24hrs to prove their innocence!
Ryan I had just posted this comment, and came out for a moment and couldn’t get back in for around 15 minutes. I posted this at 14.58pm.
“All the OPCW can know is what was in the sample that the Brits gave them. They can’t know what was used, or whether anything was used.”
N.
Exactly, which opens up a whole barrage of questions. If (and I’ve seen no condemnation of it) Dr Davis is correct, and no nerve agent was used, then how can the OPCW come back with a verdict that implicates Russia in the use of a nerve agent.
Also the sample handed over to the OPCW by Britain, if it’s not a nerve agent then surely the OPCW would admit that immediately in a press statement.
Or a sample of a nerve agent could’ve been handed over to the OPCW, that was synthesised at Porton Down, the attempt could be to pass it off as of a Russian type, bear in mind that the OPCW wouldn’t ask to test any chemical from Porton Down, and then we have to take into account that other nations can create this type of nerve agent as well, and without access to their facilities as well, then how can the OPCW nail down its origins.
The OPCW’s findings one way or the other are going to be very interesting indeed.
Republicofscotland: “Or a sample of a nerve agent could’ve been handed over to the OPCW, that was synthesised at Porton Down, the attempt could be to pass it off as of a Russian type,…”
Why would they do a thing like that?
“Porton Down laboratory to get £48m boost after Skripal attack”
https://www.ft.com/content/d78f43fc-27b0-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0
Apologies, that site has got a paywall.
Here’s another:
http://www.publicfinance.co.uk/news/2018/03/funding-boost-porton-down-chemical-defence-centre
“Why would they do a thing like that?”
Cimarròn.
Forgive me for I’m not trying be offensive however your question is a very naive one. Your link to the £48 million for Porton Down highlights one of the reasons, which in my opinion, is a bonus for Porton Down, but that’s a side issue.
It’s in my opinion quite clearly a case of problem, reaction, solution.
The problem.
Russia is winning the propaganda war, they’re influence is growing in the ME. They helped Assad stave off a regime change by the west and its odious allies, Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Reaction.
Manufacture a counter-reaction, (Skirpal event) blame it on the target nation, stand back and let the media and your allies, propigate the story and nurture public support against the perpetrator.
Solution.
Sanctions, war, just about anything your allies and public will see fit to implement.
That will be our US/UK Government friends then.
Thought so. Can’t wait to read the evidence.
We don’t need that. We will merely request the UK/US to answer for their crime within 24 hours or else they will be assumed guilty.
Wish I’d said that.
There is a massive denial of service attack on the website involving about 50,000 ip addresses (mainly in South/Central America but worldwide) and millions of requests. This is currently being mitigated by cloudflare which is why people have been seeing the “checking browser” message.
That will be our US/UK Government friends then.
I really quite admire you and you’re principled stand against the tidal wave of lies, another pretext for war? that’s rushing towards us. Your only real weakness is part of your best qualities. You’re too decent. If that’s possible. Still, after all you’ve seen and understood… you’re still… naive about exactly how incredibly ruthless the ‘ruling class’ really is, how murderous and calculating. This isn’t meant as a personal criticism. Perhaps one shouldn’t be too ‘clear sighted’ ‘too honest’ in times like these. The role of the truth teller is rarely rewarded in this life, on the contrary, it’s a dangerous job, a dangerous path to follow, but I guess somebody has to do it?
Media Lens have recently written an excellent article about all of this:
http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2018/865-no-spirit-of-liberty-the-salisbury-case-corbyn-and-the-need-for-dissent.html
Craig’s experience is mentioned in the article.
Good article and meanwhile as if to confirm what is written in it our state broadcaster’s main headline at present is
“Putin ‘will use World Cup like Hitler’s Olympics’, agrees Johnson”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43487948
In another Media Lens article they quote a BBC news report that stated words to the effect “Russia has even conducted military exercises next to NATO bases” – that’s true but only because NATO bases flank Russia to the West: those exercises actually occurred on Russian soil.
I am not surprised at the vitriol levelled. I am however ashamed at the state we, as a society, are now treated. Very old Soviet. It took the lives of millions, mostly innocent Russians, to get beyond that terrible regime. I suspect we shall go down a similar route at some point.
Such irony that a sensible and shrewd voice such as yours, Sir, is so dreadfully attacked. Loathsome for sure. I offer you all my sympathy and hope you stand firm as a beacon to all intellectual thought beyond that coke head buffoon who masquerades as Foreign Secretary.
A quote from Boris Johnson MP..
Asked by Labour MP Ian Austin at Parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee whether Russia’s hosting of the games was comparable to Nazi Germany’s hosting of the Olympic games, Johnson replied that the comparison was “certainly right.
“I think the comparison with 1936 is certainly right. It is an emetic prospect to think of Putin glorifying in this sporting event,” he told Austin.
Between Sunday the 4th of March and Wednesday 21st of March we have gone from ‘Let’s see where the evidence takes us’ to the above.
In the world of online comments there is such a thing as ‘Godwin’s Law’ Essentially meaning that by the time an online ‘thread’ having devolved into an argument already, sinks to comparisons to Hitler, then the discussion is effectively at it’s end, with the commenter offering the comparison having run out of sensible points to make, uses the ‘You’re just a Nazi’ or ‘Just like Hitler’ phrases and Godwin’s Law is then ‘achieved’
For a man who is a former mayor of London and currently out Foreign Secretary I’d expect just a LITTLE better…
Johnson appears to have taken leave of what little sense he had left.
One would think that he was the one who had ingested some kind of nerve agent …
“Asked by Labour MP Ian Austin at Parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee whether Russia’s hosting of the games was comparable to Nazi Germany’s hosting of the Olympic games, Johnson replied that the comparison was “certainly right.”
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The Soviet Union had over 20 million of its citizens killed by the Nazis in the Second World War – one in every 10 of its citizens:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union
No matter how relatively bad Putin may be, do Austin and Johnson not realise what a grotesque insult it is to Russians generally to compare the Russian Prime Minister to Adolf Hitler?
Yes, of course they bloody do! This is a crude joint attempt by New Labour (not dead yet, unfortunately) and the Conservatives to pour fuel onto the fire of potential direct war between the ‘West’ (US and Britain) and Russia, whether in Ukraine or Syria. Shame on Austin and Johnson!
A war which we would lose, incidentally – as we are incinerated by Russia nuclear weapons.
Keep it up, Craig.
So sorry you are getting so much grief.
It must be a horrible deja vu ordeal when we think of 5th Feb 2003 when Colin Powell did his one-man standup lying extravaganza at the United Nations with his sample of chemistry set test-tube. Then we had to watch the demeaning of British democracy with Tony Blair mirroring then embellishing Colin Powell’s fictions. I had hoped we had moved on, and previous Syria votes had indicated that we had moved on.
This will not end well. If the weapons inspectors endorse May/Williamson/Johnson unconditionally all credibility of our government and of the inspectors will evaporate within the hour. If the weapons inspectors do not endorse May/Williamson/Johnson, will they “go away and shut up”. I doubt it somehow. All the theatrics are about demonising Putin and Russia’s denial of Westminster’s/Washington’s/Tel Aviv’s/Riyadh’s ambitions to reduce Syria to an even worse pile of rubble than it is already. They are unlikely to go away and shut up until they have Assad’s head on a pike.
For a long time, but especially more recently, I have been trying to work out, what has happenned to all our elected politicians in the House of Commons. The UK Government, has succeeded in completely discrediting itself. But its not just them, its all The Opposition parties as well. None of them are making any sense. They are all lying, even if they think they are telling the truth. I accept that brainwashing propaganda, from The CIA controlled media, is responsible for a large part of this, but I would expect, at least some of them would be relatively immune to psychological attack, to make them completely stupid, and to stop making sense.
So what else could have caused it?
I strongly suspect, that all The MP’s have also been subjected to a Chemical Attack, and that it has been going on, for a considerable time.
I think, that the Scientists at Porton Down, who told the truth, as best they could whilst under considerable pressure to lie, should be called in to The Houses of Parliament in Westminster, in full Hazchem Gear, with sniffer dogs, and canaries and the latest high tech gear to investigate, supervised and protected by The Devon and Cornwall Police. They are the least likely to be corrupted, and can call on the scientists at Porton Down on the way, and offer them full protection.
It is entirely possible that some of our MP’s are innocent. They have simply been poisoned, to STOP MAKING SENSE
This film was made in 1984. I never expected it to come true in 2018…but all the evidence suggests that it has.
“Talking Heads / Stop Making Sense 1984”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UEPxuRPLoI
Tony
Isn’t it obvious?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1
Oh, so you have some principles? I see – Good For You! And how much might they cost, if I may be so rude as to ask? Wow, that much, I see – they must be very good principles indeed! How about you I give you slightly more than that, and you let me take care of your principles for you? No, well, how about significantly more? You see, it’s all water off a ducks back to me – I own the printing press that makes the damned things! – so whether it’s $6,000 you’re looking for or $6 billion and an Honorary Consulship in the Seychelles, it’s still peanuts in the greater scheme of things
No, still can’t tempt you? Well, you remember those hookers and that drugs conviction back in the 90’s? No, don’t remember that? – that’d be because we haven’t fabricated it yet, but I digress – just imagine how your wife/friends/family would react to that, and the truly awful impact it might have on your career. I mean, we keep rolling over leading French figures at the IMF (Strauss-Kahn anyone?) so you’d be an absolute pushover. And if you’re not, well, spare a thought for poor old Dr Kelly…..
So, nice doing business with you – who should I make the cheque out to? Oh, and look, silly me! I’ve gone and put an extra nought on the end, just to make sure you know which side your bread is buttered on. My card? Ooh, you don’t need to contact me! – we know who you are, where you are, and where your kids go to school, so we’ll be in touch with you sure enough should the need arise. Don’t spend it all at once!
Zhaglan, Interesting link, but I didn’t do that. I found out the truth, and told everyone I knew, years before the likes of Professor Steven Jones. I had an exceedingly good job, at a major British Company, and telling everyone the truth, did not go down too well at all. Instead of being promoted and earning even more money, and I was being paid exceedingly well, I was demoted , ostracised from all my colleagues, and friends, and was left with no real choice, but to plead with the management to make me redundant – and pay me a lot of money to go away. Eventually they agreed. I had done nothing wrong. I simply told the truth as best as I knew. I am still here, not skint, got enough to live on, and I still have my lovely wife, and I am now a Grandfather x 2
I have a clear conscience, because not only did I not lie, I had the courage to tell the truth, despite the likely implications. I thought everyone else intelligent would also see it – and well over 1 Million people in London alone did see it, and Marched with me, around London in the hope of preventing The UK Government going to war in Iraq in February 2003.
Maybe I should have done more, but that was not my job, nor my history. It was the first political demonstration, I had partaken in, in my life, and almost everyone I knew thought I had gone mad.
How about you? How about your conscience? Does it trouble you? What did you do, to try and stop this insanity?
The only freedom, is the freedom inside you, and what you do.
I pity all the tortured souls, who did and do nothing to stand up to this evil. It is not going to go away, unless you do.
“Beastie Boys – (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk
Tony
More likely it’s a combination of blackmail and seeing to it that only the blackmailable ascend to office. Plus, a surveillance system that detects politicians’ and other people’s secrets and misdeeds.
Quatermass Two was prophetic.
This may go down as the most transparent and incompetent false-flag operation in history. What a distinction. Makes you proud to be British.
MJ, We were Rubbish at “It’s a Knock Out” too “Jeux Sans Frontières”
But at least we had a go. I thought it was all entirely innocent, and most of it was so far as I know.
“It’s A Knockout (The Best Of) BBC Video 2000”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHQyylxst1U
Tony
I’m a new reader Craig. I’m more a medical sort than political, however I’m fascinated by our current state of affairs.
Stay strong and keep writing. Fantastic stuff – thank you.
Wow Craig. You are one courageous man. And a very smart, honest and informed one. It’s thanks to you and others like you that there’s still hope in the world.
We have your back.
Remarkable work Mr. Murray.
Noli illegitimi carborundum – not original at all but appropriate.
Two best updates about “Novichok” were posted on this forum, but I am re-posting to raise visibility:
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/russian-scientists-explain-novichok-high-time-for-britain-to-come-clean.html#more
and
https://thebell.io/en/the-scientist-who-developed-novichok-doses-ranged-from-20-grams-to-several-kilos/
and a claim that “Novichok” was actually the name used by the KGB as barium meal to oust a leaking canary 😉 (turned out to be Mirzoyanov):
http://www.unz.com/ishamir/snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs/#postscript-another-view-of-novichok
Well I see the Russians are now suggesting that poisoning the Skripals is a stitch up by the British. It was only a matter of time before they got there. The Uk’s “story” has been so littered with errors and false information (step forward the Met Police. press office, again) that it was clear something was being manipulated, like maybe the truth? Also it is foolish to completely suppress any information about what is happening, to shut it down completely, because thoughtful people then start to wonder what is going on and to query what is behind it. We are not all mindless idiots.
Alexander Boris de Pelfer Johnson has finallly lost the attention of everyone in Russia by shouting his mouth off today.
To raise such a crass idiotic comparison either means that his dealer is on holiday, or he is trying his best to get fired. Russia lost 27 million people in World war two.
He is a lazy hypocrite of the worst kind as well. unless he’s crap at history, if I recall rightly some 256 county surveyors and politicians were invited to have a peak at the Autobahn, and watch the handshake between Mussollini and Hitler, live in the stadium, they could not resist a freebie at the Olympics. So if anyone has a history of cheering on dictators, not one, but two, its this country.
What can you expect from a braggart posing as a foreign secretary, when he should be building bridges, he’s using hand grenades to blow them up, whatever little is left of trust turns to mist, he is useless and uses his job to appeal and bamboozle this countries subjects/voters, as if he is in a perpetual election.
Is he trying to impress Trump and the new Lynch torture and flog lady at the CIA? does he know where his loyalties should lie?
you are an embarrassment foreign secretary!
If the Prime Minister allows Johnson to remain in Office after what he has said today then she is equally culpable and should be kicked out as well.
Jeez Craig, please know we are behind you, the change I believe we are seeing is the last death throws of the British identity and establishment, you will go down in History as being a major nail in its coffin. I salute you 🙂