“Comrade Putin, we have successfully stockpiled novichoks in secret for ten years, and kept them hidden from the OPCW inspectors. We have also trained our agents in secret novichok assassination techniques. The programme has cost hundreds of millions of dollars, but now we are ready. Naturally, the first time we use it we will expose our secret and suffer massive international blowback. So who should be our first target? The head of a foreign intelligence agency? A leading jihadist rebel in Syria? A key nuclear scientist? Even a Head of State?”
“No, Tovarich. There is this old retired guy I know living in Salisbury. We released him from jail years ago…”
“With respect Comrade Putin, are you sure he is the most important target to reveal a programme we have put so much resource into for ten years?”
“Yes. I sit here every day and I cannot concentrate on the affairs of Russia or the World as all the time am thinking of Sergei Skripal. I should never have let him out of jail to spend his life buying lottery tickets and eating in Zizzis. But you must make absolutely certain to kill him.”
“Don’t worry Comrade Putin, we have been training in secret novichok assassination techniques for ten years. We even have an detailed manual explaining our methods. We will spread the novichok on his outside door handle (fiendish laugh).”
“Are you sure comrade? Is there not a danger it will wash off or get diluted?”
“No Comrade Putin, it never rains in England.”
That is, genuinely, in every detail the official British government version of what happened in Salisbury, including the ten year programme and the secret assassination manual.
Despite this story being one of the most improbably wild conspiracy theories in human history, it is those who express any doubt at all as to its veracity who are smeared as “conspiracy theorists” or even “traitors”.
All copyright on this article is waived. Feel free to use, translate and republish as you wish.
After the latest chemical fraud in Syria, Russia should call an emergency UNSC meeting and state one thing;
The Syrian Government is willing to airlift every last one of these terrorists from Douma to a western capitol city of their choice to end the shelling of Damascus city. Washington, Paris, London, Berlin take your pick. Each terrorist will be provided with $100,000 as they leave. Do their western financiers accept?
Why the hell are the US and UK so eager to let these supporters of bin Laden, aligned with ISIS, leave north to the Turkish border and possibly on to Europe. Is it the geography?
dump all the terrorists in Washington and let them deal with them – after all how much terrorism happens on amerikan soil?
I like your thinking.
Briliant idea!
Bin Laden (the character) died in 2001……Obama’s soundbite at the video of SEALS taking him out was acted out for public consumption…..Tim Osman (ex CIA – Osama’s actor) died ages ago
Deutsche Welle yesterday called the so-called rebels in Douma “the Jaysh-al Islam Islamist faction” before remembering that “Islamist” has a very poor brand image in Europe.
An updated report dropped the “Islamist” label.
https://twitter.com/BardenGridge/status/982749140038963200
Isn’t this just ‘the argument from incredulity’.
Your argument should be ‘Where’s the evidence?’. That’s it. Nothing else.
If Boris has had evidence of a stockpiling programme he must by now have handed it over to the OPCW. (?) If he had done so at once, as he should, he would have been able better to answer the diffident questions posed by “Russia’s useful idiot”
OPCW could have difficulty reacting to perfectly legitimate and triply verified information that a secret lab somewhere between Irkutsk and St. Peterburg (5500 km, 3500 miles) is producing and stockpiling chemical weapons. Concerning triple verification: the source told about it in a Moscow bar while somewhat inebriated, repeated it once more when totally drunk, and in the meantime he showed photos of his girl friend and his cat, thus proving that he is an actual human. Not any human mind you, but an actual Russian speaker with an accent in English that was very hard to understand.
Not just triple verified, triple distilled verified.
Looking at Trumps Tweets Im going to make an educated guess.
There are in no particular order;
American
British
Israeli
French
Saudi
Jordanian
UAE/GCC
et al
Operators are trapped in Douma and about to be captured.
Its either international embarrassment and war crimes trials or WW3 Donald.
Which do you want……Mmmmmm?
There have been reports of British troops being captured in east Ghouta from 8 March 2018. In the latest report, there is reference to 11 SAS troops having been captured by the SAA in two groups from two villages in east Ghouta. The squad size seems consistent with figures mentioned by those UK figures sending SAS groups into Syria. Their role seems to have been directing the targetting of mortars/rockets fired by the terrorists into Damscus. Targets included a school, a hospital, a crowded market and the Russian consulate. The troops are supposedly being held individually in separate secure SAA sites.
The Russians are usually very circumspect and seek evidence before making statements. Therefore it is interesting to note that Lavrov has stated that the war in Syria is now no longer a proxy war, as there are NATO forces fighting with the terrorists. The Russian spokeswoman Zakharova has also stated that there is a surprise for the UK.
https://www.syrianperspective.com/2018/04/alloosh-orders-execution-of-officers-5-hostages-freed-saudi-arabia-trying-to-hold-on-to-ghouta-how-zahraan-alloosh-was-killed-by-saf.html
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/https/diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/1722839.html
If true I’ve no doubt Putin/Assad won’t waste any time putting them on show to the world. It’d be the propaganda cup of the century.
There were of course stories that 14 NATO officers had been captured in Aleppo back in 2016. That seemed to die a quiet death.
Regarding Aleppo, my understanding is that there was a secret deal to release them in exchange for something – US backing off on allegations maybe? However since then the SAA and Russians have learnt the hard way that the US is non-negotiation-capable. The SAS men are being held by the SAA and they will not give them up this time. These British troops may be the very ones that acted as forward air controllers for the coalition attacks on Syrian troops almost leading to the loss of Deir Ezzor.
One used to be proud of our SAS…….deeply ashamed nowadays…..you CAN refuse an illegal order in the military
I have to say I fully agree with you. There is such urgency in the accusations.
This isn’t a convincing argument. First, a program like this doesn׳t cost 100s of millions of dollars. Second, the Russians do not lose and have not lost the product of the investment just because they used it once and it is no longer a secret. Third, they may have underestimated the diplomatc blowback. Fourth, I’m not convinced the diplomatic blowback, even as it is is not a worthy price to pay – seeing as how the attack was for domestic gain and to scare potential turncoats, not a means to threaten foreign adversaries.
That said, it is still reasonable to suggest there are other possibilities. The main ones are that it was a black-op not authotized by the Kremlin. I consider the Russian system less centralized than the West (which is also the reason they’re more vulnerable to turncoats), so the assumption that a black-op like this would have to be authorized by the Kremlin is just wrong and based on cultural malprojection. The other possible theory is that it was done by a state actor other than Russia wanting to frame Russia for a crime they didn׳t commit.
Do you honestly think that the “potential turncoats” would be scared by something that “almost” kills them?!
Secondly, the premise of the spin against Russia was they kept the “Novichok” in defiance of OPCW (to which RF is a signatory and has ratified it, and OPCW certified the destruction of *ALL* of the RF’s chemical weapons programme), and kept that stock secret.
NOW tell me, how much of an idiot do you really have to be to blow this secret weapons programme to almost kill someone who served in your prison system, and subsequently you pardoned and released years ago?
1) If you want to pretend that it’s not scary to be poisoned along with your family by a nerve agent I suggest you go try it on yourself to prove your courage. If you can’t get a nerve agent, maybe try jumping in front of a moving vehicle instead. You might make it.
2) Your second claim returns to the meritless argument that this assasination program could only be used once, because once used (on any victim) – the gig is up. Yet if Russia has such a program – they can still use it again. Surprise surprise. It is a logical fallacy based on a misguided belief that Russia cannot tolerate this bruhaha that’s erupted over this. Well, what if Russia can take it and live on?
You’re missing the point re. the second claim- *everyone* had known about “Novichok” since its disclosure/invention by the Soviet scientist who migrated stateside, on top of that, it was synthesised by the Iranians under the supervision of OPCW several years ago. So the point that was being made was that the program was secret, not that it could/could not be used.
As for your first argument, isn’t that the same argument that was put forward in the Litvinenko case, and look, that was a much scarier and way more lethal outcome, yet… Anyway, there’s a whole bunch of stuff being released about Litvinenko tomorrow by the Russians, so get some popcorn!
“The other possible theory is that it was done by a state actor other than Russia wanting to frame Russia for a crime they didn׳t commit.”
To me that’s the most likely theory – there are a number but Ukraine would top the list IMV
“seeing as how the attack was for domestic gain and to scare potential turncoats, not a means to threaten foreign adversaries”
Thats a big assumption and doesn’t stand up to much scrutiny. He could have done it by any other means and anytime over the last few years.
Remember just recently Putin and the OPCW announced that Russia had destroyed its entire Bio and Chem weapons stocks. Putin was clearly very proud and took the opportunity to get a dig in at the Yanks saying it would be a number of years before they matched Russia.
I don’t think it is credible to think he would then use a chemical weapon to kill a nonentity a couple of months before the World Cup. I watched Stone’s interviews with him and he comes across as an intelligent and thoughtful man. Not someone who would risk the inevitable international opprobrium that such an action would bring in the year Russia hosts the World Cup – something else he is proud of
You’re mistaken in thinking that believing Putin is capable of this is an insult to Putin. He can do it. And get away with it. And do it again.
I don’t think I said that. Its the choice of weapon and timing that troubles me
I think you are right.It probably was part of a campaign to ramp up animosity towards Russia because of their support for Assad. That makes the perpetrators of the Scripal attack much closer to home, in fact right among us. Agents provocateurs, I think is the terminology for this kind of thing.
but why skripal? why novichok? why now?
To further demonise Russia. I said above I thought Ukraine was my best guess at who did it but after catching up on the news coming out of Syria I coming round to the view that it’s part of a set up to attack Syria and possibly Iran
That brings the probable perpetrators a lot closer to home
May have underestimated the diplomatic blowback? That’s a little lame, Russia of all nations knows exactly the magnitude of the blowback, having been accused (rightly or wrongly) of poisoning one of their ex intelligence officers in the UK before.
There’s no ‘possible’ amongst it….wake up FFS, this is PROPOGANDA created and maintained by the satanic Trans gender pushing western satanic way of life…..and no I am not a religious person, when we in the west still think we are a beacon of light for all those oppressed nations whilst run by paedophiles and violent homosexuals (which we are) then how can we even consider ourselves as this ‘beacon of light’…..you might be honest and good, likewise myself and many others here, but our rulers are not….and like Craig said earlier in ref. to Ms Burley…..it seems MSM mouthpieces and state actors DO act like little children with their throwaway comments like the one Ms Burley used against Craig…..when do you ever recall this type of language ever being used prior to the advent of Social Media???
None of your points make sense.
First, a program like this doesn׳t cost 100s of millions of dollars.
First, how would you know? This is not “bench scale” synthesis for research purposes: HMG claims Russia has been “stockpiling Novichok for 10 years”. To put it in perspective, destroying major chemical weapons stockpiles costs billions of dollars – in USA, almost 30 billion and work isn’t done yet. Production would probably cost even more. Add to that an “assassin training program”, and $100 million seems like a conservative estimate.
Also keep in mind that Russian defense budget is roughly 10% of American, so large expenses are much more difficult for them.
Second, the Russians do not lose and have not lost the product of the investment just because they used it once and it is no longer a secret.
They would have “lost it” precisely because it would no longer be a secret. If such a program did exist, then the OPCW would now seize upon British “evidence” and, propped by its Western members, initiate a new inquiry against Russia. Putin would have to either surrender the facilities, and pay yet another astronomical sum for the destruction of his “stockpile”, or refuse and have any future attack using Novichok immediately attributed to Russia.
Not to mention that the idea of using a “brand name” chemical weapon as an assassination tool is ludicrous to the extreme – if London is to be believed (most certainly not, of course), then using Russian-made Novichok in any assassination would equal leaving a “Vladimir Putin did this” calling card on the crime scene. Something fit for Dr Evil, possibly, but certainly not for the sly and cunning (as portrayed by Western media) Russian leader. As others have mentioned, a bullet or a car accident do the job just as well while retaining plausible deniability.
Third, they may have underestimated the diplomatc blowback.
Don’t be ridiculous – Moscow has seen enough examples of Western blowback in similar scenarios (which in retrospect appear more and more as similar provocations), such as MH17, “election meddling”, Syria “sarin attacks” etc., not to mention an entire history of even more gruesome acts against other countries (Iraq’s “WMD”, Libya’s civil war etc., going all the way back to Gulf of Tonkin back in 1964).
What the Russians might have underestimated was the West’s willingness to engage in such a brazen provocation, and with such complete abandon, seemingly disregarding all modicum of common sense. This show of “collective insanity” has certainly left them wondering.
Fourth, I’m not convinced the diplomatic blowback, even as it is is not a worthy price to pay – seeing as how the attack was for domestic gain and to scare potential turncoats, not a means to threaten foreign adversaries.
How the hell would this ever be a worthy price to pay? Putin doesn’t need domestic gain – he’s popular enough as it is, all Western media (which you are supposed to trust, right?) lined up to declare he was set for a landslide victory in elections, and not only due to eliminating all “real” opposition (did they mean the remnants of Yeltsin’s parasitic oligarchic clique, I wonder?), but due to being genuinely appreciated by the Russians. As for “scaring” potential turncoats – again, there would be absolutely no need for a “smoking gun” scenario, clandestine assassinations worked perfectly fine for any regime, including USSR, USA, Israel etc.
Moreover, the diplomatic blowback, as you put it, is not even the most severe price Putin would have had to pay, had he indeed been guilty of this crime and of stockpiling Novichok: his supposedly highly secret chemical weapons program – which he had allegedly managed to hide from OPCW inspectors for a decate – would be exposed, nullifying decades of work and billions of dollars spent on destroying Russia’s CWs, blowing up Russia’s proud decaration of complete CW elimination in 2017, and either preventing all future use of this program (due to having to destroy it under OPCW supervision), or being held as an atrocious violator of the Chemical Weapons Convention, with possible consequence of restarting a Chemical Weapons arms race. All just to scare a few has-been ex-spies? Absolute nonsense.
The other possible theory is that it was done by a state actor other than Russia wanting to frame Russia for a crime they didn׳t commit.
This is the sole plausible theory, especially considering how much form West has in such false flags, including specifically falsifying chemical weapons attacks (Syria) and “stockpiling” (Iraq).
“scare potential turncoats”? Really? they wouldn’t have been scared of torture and a nasty death already? Do you think the Russian state are a bunch of pussies?
“Satire Alert”
I wonder if the “White Helmets” have agents ?
I wonder if the extras pick up flyers from local shop fronts or do they have an APP ?
I wonder if the filming locations have VIP and hospitality tents ?
I wonder if they have a local film awards ceremony ?
I wonder if what the red carpet is dyed with ?
I wonder if migrant ISIS workers wait in DIY store car parks for some pickup drivers need a machine gunner for the day ?
Amid all the huffing & puffing I think we need to retain focus on one key factor, and one alone – last week the USA twice vetoed a UN Security Council resolution supported by ALL of the other Members, which sought to condemn Israel for the massacre of unarmed Palestinians
All this Eastern Ghouta stuff is just a distraction – it’s not, in and of itself, in any way directly related to Salisbury, it is just ‘of a type developed in Washington’ and is used as an all-weather tool to demonise Russia.
I think we should also bear in mind that the forces at play locally in Syria, whilst undoubtedly aware of the Skripal circus, probably aren’t as tuned into popular sentiment in the West, and may therefore not perceive the same degree of “Chemical Weapons!” fatigue as we do; they might seriously be under the impression that public opinion is now firmly on their side as a consequence of Skripalgate, and believe that their 15 minutes of Glory has finally arrived.
I don’t think Trump will pull the trigger this time; if he does, I think this time Putin will act by pulling his own trigger
A few days ago I said I was waiting for the second shoe to drop. Now it has. And of course if the CIA-sponsored White Helmets say it’s true, then it must be true that it was them nasty Russians working with them other nasty folks to do the dastardly deed.
If, in consequence, a cruise missile barrage is launched on Damascus, then it’s game over for the Americans in the Middle East and in the Mediterranean. And if the French try anything, adieu Macron!
And I was so looking forward to non-radioactive summer!
I seriously believe that the Russians will respond this time; whilst maintaining a composed and dignified diplomatic veneer, I would be amazed if someone high up in Russia hadn’t concluded that ‘enough is enough’, and that the polite, touchy-feely, ‘partnership’ approach hasn’t perhaps now passed its Sell By date
The US and whoever else has no choice but to use Planes now. The attack after the Khan Shekoun attack last April consisted of 59 cruise missiles. Only 23 of them hit their targets The other 36 went haywire. Not long ago there was a US Electronic warfare plane circling off the Syrian coast while a massive drone swarm attacked the Russian bases. Russia disabled every one of the drones and even took control of some of them and landed them safely. I think this is the reason why neither the US or Israel have used cruise missiles to attack Syria since then. The Russian electronic warfare packages are clearly formidable.
P.S. there is also the case of the USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea. It was reported that it was buzzed by a Russian fighter jet with a small box on the underside. The ship was totally disabled and had to limp to the nearest NATO port.
“P.S. there is also the case of the USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea. It was reported that it was buzzed by a Russian fighter jet with a small box on the underside. The ship was totally disabled and had to limp to the nearest NATO port.”
I hadn’t heard of that, but what I did read last year at RT’s website, was that the Russians had a weapon that was based on “new concepts in physics”. But since that statement there has been silence. If the above report is true, could that be the new weapon?
It isn’t true; it never happened. Even the Russian company that makes the equipment said to be responsible said it wasn’t true, but of course the truth has never been allowed to stand in the way of a god conspiracy theory.
https://defensesystems.com/articles/2017/05/12/fakeew.aspx
Something must have caused those U.S. Navy ships to collide with other ships off Asia in recent months, and in at least one of those cases we know that the naval ship’s navigation had gone haywire.
The only caution I would take with that article is the source. The Atlantic Council is itself a blatant NATO disinformation outlet. I had a look around and there is a few denials of it. I guess that one will stay in the conspiracy “theory” box for now. They did say that there were reports 27 sailors quitting or receiving counseling.
I am not saying it definitely happened like the other two events in Syria did.
“Isn’t true”…..hahaha….this happened a few years back and it was real
Fake. Believe it if you want but you’re deluding nobody but yourself.
https://www.stopfake.org/en/lies-the-crew-of-the-us-destroyer-ship-got-scared-by-the-russian-fighter-aircraft/
“P.S. there is also the case of the USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea. It was reported that it was buzzed by a Russian fighter jet with a small box on the underside. The ship was totally disabled and had to limp to the nearest NATO port.”
Except that it’s complete bullsh1t.
https://youtu.be/DwmrA_aCsvY
Good video thank you. Anon1
Anon1, Interesting – what do you think about this then – did The BBC make it up, or did the people who produced this get fired, and replaced?
“USS Liberty: Dead In The Water” (BBC Documentary 2002)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOH1XMAwZA
Tony
I couldn’t quite see what was good about that video, or in what way it proved that the story was bullsh*t. All it said was that the US Navy doesn’t admit it, so it can’t have happened. Well, the US doesn’t admit it, when its planes are shot down by enemy action, because they would have to admit they are not all-conquering, which they are psychologically incapable of doing. So why should we expect them to admit a successful action against the Donald Cook?
Iran is the objective.
This cogently reveals the absurdity of the whole story. Similarly absurd and potentially fatally dangerous is the Yankee programmed reaction to the phony “chemical attack” against the portions of Ghouta still held by the western-backed barbarian element. This reaction would be risible black comedy if it were not so dangerous.
Whereas it’s clear that Bojo and the Tin Lady are playing a weak hand badly–and have only been spared by the appalling complicity of virtually the entire panoply of Western media as information warfare adjuncts–which is in itself a stunning and sickening display of power–it’s not clear that Russia has played a stronger hand much more ably.
In sum, the questions, criticisms and suggested avenues of response suggested here, as well as at the Off-Guardian, John Helmer’s blog, the Saker, MoA, and strategic culture.org (anyone who hasn’t seen Rob Slane’s 50 questions there really should), has been much richer and potentially more efficacious than Russia’s official demarches have so far been.
At the very least, can a writ of habeus corpus be filed? It will be clear to most of the world by now that the UK does not want the Skripals to be heard from directly unless and until their statements will not be those of “tools of the Kremlin.” (But it may be that the Russians are not so keen that they be heard from either, until what they will say can be determined.)
I would have to think that this trial balloon to have the Skripals relocated with new identities would be recognized by them as a threat (since at that point they will have been disappeared). If the Russians are hesitating about what they might say, and about having a writ of habeus corpus filed, the implied threat from the USUK might be enough to persuade the Skripals that if they have information embarrassing for the USUK (or for Russia, for that matter), they had better speak out now, before they are disappeared.
Paul, Blimey. What did I say? Tony
And, of course, it may be worth pointing out that since USUK have implicitly conceded that they cannot protect their empastured spies, double-agents, traitors and their families without resort to witness protection, all future candidates will have to be prepared to cut themselves off from all previous contacts in their countries of origin.
What is the point if the OPCW?
Both Syria and Russia got rid of their chemical weapons – but still get accused of using them!!!
The OPCW are a toothless pointless body like the UN.
As with all things beginning with U and followed by a few other letters….all set up many years back by the Rothschild/Rockefeller allegiance……for your trusting subservience
1. ”They did it for domestic gain” (Skripal case, department for curious explanations).
How could this be, when Putin’s own people relentlessly have pointed to the absurdity of the idea?.
Of course, nobody in Russia believes in the nonsense, and so there can be no gain.
2. ”They did it to scare potential traitors”. Again ridiculous. Why? Potential traitors have always known about the risks involved. (Sentencing to death not being uncommon in this field).
(Also, as many have said before, a professional, experienced, cool-headed fellow like Putin would never destroy the ground for possible future spy exchanges, unthinkable).
Russian prosecutor general Yuri Chaika announced briefing to be held on April 9, 2018.
They will reveal some facts about Boris Berezovsky’s illegal moving to the UK and on Litvinenko’s death investigation.
“British authorities hush up or distort these facts” Chaika said
https://ria.ru/world/20180408/1518162394.html
I see we have moved on to new pastures already…
As for me, I’ve followed the clues back to Tatiana Vikeeva (the mother-in-law) whose sponsor, Vladislav Gasumyanov, worked closely with her at the State Reserve and who personally appointed her as the Director of the “NGO”, ” Institute of Modern Security Problems”, which Gasumyanov himself founded. Presently, Gasumyanov is vice-president of PJSC “MMC” Norilsk, Nickel (a large mining and precious metals company).
https://newsnn.ru/regions/society/27-01-2017/vladimir-putin-vruchil-vladislavu-gasumyanovu-pochetnuyu-gosnagradu
He is close to Putin, and from 1982 to 2001 saw service in the bodies of the KGB, SVR and FSB
https://biography.omicsonline.org/russian-federation/norilsk-nickel/gasumyanov-vladislav-ivanovich-410735
It turns out that our Gasumyanov has a colorful past and has been intimately linked to Caucasian criminal gangs and drug smuggling cartels as well as other corrupt activities:
Who in the Kremlin covers up the “Armenian mole” Gasumyanov?
This labyrinth of corruption stretches from Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia (including Abkhazia and South Ossetia) to the Administration of President Dmitry Medvedev. The supreme distributor of this sewer of corruption is Vladislav Gasumyanov, the deputy head of the President’s Office for Interregional and Cultural Relations with Foreign Countries, headed by Sergei Vinokurov (later head of SVR), the confidant of the head of the Russian Presidential Administration Sergei Naryshkin.
More details are here:
http://stringer-news.com/publication.mhtml?Part=48&PubID=17973
Latest update, in case anyone is remotely interested in a non-doorknob theory:
Gasumyanov is known to be connected to an Armenian criminal boss named Tevosik (Tevos Safaryan).
When he arrived in Moscow, after being released at the end of December 2014 from Yerevan prison where he was suspected of kidnapping a businessman, according to Tevosik himself, he came to the Russian capital at the personal invitation of a retired FSB officer, a former high-ranking official of Rosrezerv and the Russian Federation, and now head of the security block of MMC Norilsk Nickel, Vladislav Gasumyanov (“Mole”).
http://stringer-news.com/publication.mhtml?Part=37&PubID=34455
“Tevosik” bragged to his entourage of his plans to create an organized criminal group in Russia, with the aim of imposing a tribute for “all Armenian businessmen.” From the stories of Tevosik-Safaryan it also follows that Vladislav Gasumyanov, who invited him to Russia, allegedly already demanded a share of 70% of all the money earned as a result of “raids” with his participation.
http://fyodor.su/avtoritet-tevos-safaryan-foto.html
https://krutiha22.ru/tevos-safaryan-avtoritet-foto.html
Ok, Billy. So we have to keep our eyes away from the more logical non-doorknob cui bono explanation and relate this Salisbury thing to something Putin/Russia. I see. Thx.
Russia convened a meeting of the UN Security Council on the Threat of International Security.
TASS report that two UNSC meetings have been called for tomorrow, one (called by Russia on threats to international peace) to be followed by another (called by France, Britain, US, etc. on the alleged chemical attack in Douma). See also the report by Reuters.
France, Britain, US, etc.
Hereafter to be called the Coalition.
What will it take for the MSM to print real news, instead of blatant government propaganda?
Once again, just as Assad and Putin warned, the Western proxy mercenary headchoppers have used Chemical Weapons, or simulated their use, in Syria
Turkey arrested some of the headchoppers some time ago, with sarin. Lots of stockpiles of CW’s, especially chlorine, have been discovered in recently liberated areas. A month or so ago, three truckloads of chlorine was reported to have crossed from Turkey into Syria.
These facts are largely if not totally ignored by the MSM, because they don’t tally with the government narrative of Assad using CW’s.
The same with the Skripal case – all allegations but zero proof.
In a ‘Statement on behalf of the European Union’, delivered by Bulgarian Ambassador Krassimir Kostov, part of it reads: ‘..The Heads of State and Government of the European Union gathered in the European Council on 22 March 2018 condemned in the strongest terms the attack in Salisbury and confirmed our agreement with the United Kingdom Government assessment that it is highly likely that the Russian Federation is responsible and that there is no plausible alternative explanation….’
Even that admits there is no evidence; as for there being ‘.. no plausible alternative explanation..’,
there is of course a very plausible alternative – the smearing of Russia.
In 1994 the German intelligence agency (BND) planted plutonium on a Russian Aeroflot plane:
‘Operation Hades Blamed Russia – A Model For The ‘Novichok’ Claims?’:
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/operation-hades-a-model-for-the-novichok-case-.html
In the 1960’s, ’70’s and ’80’s secret ‘armies’ in European countries, originally set up by the CIA in case Russia invaded Europe (and largely manned by Fasciists and Nazis), were used instead to terrorise European countries in what was called a ‘Strategy of Tension’, these armed groups committed bombings and other massacres of ordinary people, including the Bologna train station bombing (85 dead, hundreds injured) and the Brabant supermarket shootings, all blamed on Left-wing groups so that the public would be repelled by them and would not vote for Left-wing parties in elections:
‘Operation Gladio – Full 1992 documentary BBC’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHXjO8wHsA
There are also a number of books on Gladio, probably the best is by Paul Williams.
So the West has ‘form’, ‘False Flag’ attacks or hoaxes have long been a major part of their ‘dirty tricks’ departments.
You all remember the Iraqi WMD lie; then there was the Kuwaiti Incubator babies lie.
The Lusitania was packed with explosives and ammunition, and deliberately sent into waters where a German submarine was known to be operating and was sunk (in order to try to arouse the American public to support America joining in WWI. Pearl Harbour was a deliberate sacrifice by FDR to get public acceptance for entry into WWII. The Gulf of Tonkin lie was used by LBJ to massively escalate American involvement in Vietnam.
Here is a list of 53 acknowledged False Flag attacks, or planned attacks:
’53 Admitted False Flag Attacks’:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/53-admitted-false-flag-attacks/5432931
Yet our governments keep rolling them out, and only get away with it because our MSM ‘newspapers’ and TV stations don’t do their jobs, of exposing the massive flaws in the governments’ narratives.
Syria so patently falls into this False Flag scenario; Assad would have to be a raving lunatic to use Chemical Weapons, which have been made a ‘Red Line’ by the US.
Paul Barbara,
I have it on extremely good recent authority, that it is still safe for ordinary English people, to travel East, and spend the weekend mixing with Russians. My son loved it, My sister-in-law is still there. The Russians do not hate or despise us, because of our completely incompetent and Embarrassing Government.
We simply empathise with them.
I have always found Slavic people, incredibly welcoming and polite, and to be perfectly honest, I quite fancy Yulia, especially the photo that the Sun published. She looks very much like my Ex.
Her kids are both Lawyers. I have been hoping for many years, they would help prosecute
ANTHONY CHARLES LYNTON BLAIR
We are still in contact, after all this time.
She is a lovely girl. My wife and her got on brilliantly after 35 years.
They had both got to put up with me.
I just knew they would get on.
Tony
Powerful statement. Thank you respectfully.
The 1980 Munich Oktoberfest bombing is another likely Gladio operation:
http://www.exberliner.com/features/the-oktoberfest-bombing/
In all the time I’ve watched and listened to BBC news over the years, I’m pretty certain that I’ve never heard them ever use or acknowledge the phrase “false-flag”. Maybe that is the real Room 101?
Of course , the Italian prime-minister historically blew the whistle on ‘Gladio’, and Jean-Claude Juncker (who he?) significantly became ex-PM of Luxembourg fairly recently in a scandal when he had a dispute with his head secret squirrel. The top spook was explaining that the Luxembourg Gladio warriors were refusing to stand-down as they have not been given the correct code-word to do so. Luckily for Luxy, their false-flag strategy of tension operators blew up many unimportant things, I think with only one fatality or injury. At least, this is my understanding as all the papers are available online, just annoyingly coded in the obscure Luxembourgish language.
Very funny article in the Daily Mail:
“The Novichok timebomb: Nerve agent used to poison former Russian spy and his daughter was specially designed to take four hours to kill them so their assassins could flee Britain”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5590067/Nerve-agent-used-poison-Russian-spy-designed-4-hours-work-allow-culprits-flee.html
The nerve agent used was a “less powerful BOUTIQUE Novichok”, “specially designed to take four hours to kill them” and which “allowed the would-be murderers to escape”.
Those nasty Russians are very smart (boutique Novichok with four hours delay) and very dumb (nerve agent that doesn’t kill), at the same time.
But now, EVERYTHING IS CLEAR. It perfectly explains why the Skripals didn’t die immediately and had the opportunity to have some fun before getting sick and being saved by “doctors with specialist chemical weapons training (whom) were on duty at the hospital when the victims were admitted”, doctors that were there “completely by chance”.
Even by the idiotic article information, “provided by security sources”, the explanation of the different reactions between the Skripals is that Sergei supposedly came in contact with the most of the gel in the door knob because he touched it first and Yulia, as all of us who have a front door use to do, verified if the door was really closed, touching the door knob with the residual gel, second. But that logic doesn’t explain how given this uneven sharing of the “boutique Novichok gel” and, moreover, given their age, weight and gender differences they both got sick exactly four hours later, in a very coordinated fashion, on the park bench.
When I read this kind of non sense in a newspaper, no matter if it is the Daily Mail, I feel very worried. Which objective those “security sources” have?. Keeping us busy pulling our hair?. Forcing us to see just a three while they are blazing the forest?.
They’re gaslighting us. They know full well what they are telling us is garbage, but if all the media tell us the same garbage, we will all start to question whether common sense and logic are really common sense and logic.
And all of the excuses as to why the Skripals didn’t die fail to explain yet another crucial question. How did the hospital know to treat them for nerve poisoning the instant they reached hospital, in order to save their lives?
Didn’t know that word, UV. Thank you.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201701/11-warning-signs-gaslighting
Looks like Fred’s job description.
I think this is the DM having some fun at the government,’s expense. Along the lines of: if you won’t tell us anything and won’t let us print anything we have dug up, we’ll make it up, so there.
That story would only make sense if the police knew who the assassin(s) were (and wanted to identify them)
As the suspect list goes it seems (if it wasn’t Putin himself) they could still be lurking in Salisbury.
Tell the Daily Mail you heard it here first.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/scotland-must-defend-carla-ponsati-sturgeon-cannot-play-pontius-pilate/comment-page-6/#comment-728568
It was obvious.
I think it is probably more telling that the Daily mail is the only place that took your emails to them seriously.
One hopes that the Skripals don’t have a sudden relapse and wake up dead therefore negating any reason to allow anyone to visit them.
I came across a report which mentioned they would be offered sanctury in the US under a new identity. Would they take the offer up? I don’t know but they have been isolated for over a month and may be totally oblivious to who targetted them. One thing I am sure of – if they do the new identity will be very effective and they will never be seen again.
Yep, they will use Sollozo’s Relocation Services. Never to be found again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7RMKq8RQj4
Interesting view from Dr Chris Busby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4utEI2EU64
That was dynamite (probably not the best phrase as we’re potentially on the brink of nuclear war)
Thanks. I’d heard that both Iraq and Libya wanted an end to the petrodollar being the real reason they were attacked by Western powers. I didn’t know Syria was also planning the same thing hence its invasion.
The Tories and the Right may well become toxic in every sense or the word throughout time.
Craig…..your friends at VT have published a very damning article linking Skripal to today’s attempted Chemical attack in Syria……everyone should read this, it’s gone too far now, and British military involvement is high……and they have been captured
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/08/proof-intel-drop-trump-bolton-behind-syria-chemical-attacks-confirmed/
I can only assume this absurd campaign by cabinet ministers, led by Boris Johnson, screaming about Corbyn being as a useful idiot for Putin and disloyal to his country, is a desperate last minute campaign to swing a few votes their way in the forthcoming local elections in the UK.
True as well Mary Paul. You can also throw this antisemitism smear into that pot. Did you see the demo outside Parliament? “Corbyn out” was the chant.
A simpler and better explanation
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaA3GBEX4AAo5Fu.jpg
Ie, Tony, ond yr ydym mewn rheolaeth, a’ch Llywodraethau yn gwneud yr hyn a ddywedwn wrthynt
כן, טוני, אבל אנחנו בשליטה, והממשלות
שלכם עושות מה שאנו אומרים להן
אנתוני
The Chief Executive Cara Charles-Banks and medical Director Dr Christine Blanchard of Salisbury Hospital Trust may have breached the Skripals Human Rights as per the Human Rights Act UK 1998. And other obligations…. SALISBURY HOSPITAL BECOMES SECRET RENDITION CENTRE FOR YULIA SKRIPAL>
Salisbury Hospital’s chief administrator and chief doctor refuse to say they are holding consent forms signed by Sergei Skripal and Yulia Skripal. Without those forms, and proof the hospital has obtained them from the Skripals since they regained consciousness last week, the hospital is making claims about their privacy which are improper, according to the practice rules of the British National Health Service, and unlawful violations of their human rights, according to British and European law.
Late on April 4, Cara Charles-Barks, the Salisbury Hospital chief executive, said by email: “Due to patient confidentiality, the [Salisbury Hospital] Trust is not able to enter into further correspondence about the clinical care of patients.” This was her reply to the request that she confirm her hospital’s standard practice for communication between patients and their next of kin; and the particular next-of-kin arrangements which the Skripals have agreed with Salisbury Hospital. See more here… http://johnhelmer.net/salisbury-hospital-becomes-secret-rendition-center-for-yulia-skripal/
If I remember, you sent a registered letter to Julia and the Director, did you get a reply in writing back from either of them?
Billy Bostickson, I did not get a reply, nor did I expect one, John Helmer is well on the case.
John Helmer……..
Two requests, please:
— it is universal hospital policy that patients sign consent forms relating to care, to contact with next of kin, and to privacy. You were referring to this when you said in your statement — “Yulia has asked”. Do you have these signed consents from Ms Skripal, and if you do, I request you prove it.
— I have highlighted two word forms in the Metropolitan Police quotation of Ms Skripal’s remarks. These cannot be translations from the Russian language we know Ms Skripal uses. They are also English idioms which she cannot form herself. Do you as the responsible physician have evidence that Ms Skripal’s exposure to the purported nerve agent has improved her English beyond the level she exercised prior to March 4.
I invite you to respond promptly.
In the event that you do not answer the questions, I am obliged to remind you, as before, that you will be reported as refusing to answer.
Yours sincerely,
Dr John Helmer
_______________________________________________________________________________
By press time, Salisbury Hospital refuses to produce evidence of lawful consent.
There is an old claim that Gasamyanov poisoned his previous boss at the Federal Reserve, Alexander Grigoriev., the one appointed by Putin, who had discovered his corruption and crime links. Next thing, Grigoriev died of a “hart attack” and Gasamyanov goes to Putin and accuses his ex-boss of corruption. Putin doesn’t swallow it and sends him packing….for a while.
“Gasamyanov, a KGB / FSB general, poisoned another FSB general, the head of Rosrezerv, who was considered a crystal-clear person (http://rospres.com/specserv/3808/ “The Secret of the Death of the Head of the Rosrezerv”). These manners of Gasumyanov are encrypted on his personal coat of arms, and in particular: “Everyone who will be guided by morality and” blacken “the coat of arms of the USSR will be poisoned.” This illiterate businessman, imagined himself to be the key figure of the FSB. You have to pay for naivety. And for talkativeness – even more so. With his personal coat of arms, Gasumyanov issued a state secret about the role of the FSB. The boomerang (poison) that he released soon will overtake him. Ossetian greetings to him on the way to the next world, He booked hell for his soul.”
https://www.ekhokavkaza.com/a/24570379.html
Ok, Billy. So we have to keep our eyes away from the more logical non-doorknob cui bono explanation and relate this Salisbury thing to something Putin/Russia. I see. Thx.
Also, as we all know “poisoning” was invented in Russia and has never been use elsewhere.
Not at all, I’m doing my research, you do yours, nobody here is trying to make you do anything,
Whatever makes you think that?
As for poisoning, it was probably “invented” by plants and insects as a defense/survival mechanism. Humans observed and learned.
Just out of interest, what is your research activity? Observing how people react to snide comments?
Maybe the Russians deliberately staged a botched assassination and made it so staggeringly incompetent that people would assume Theresa May’s government had to be behind it?
it could have been Armenians, I’m sure some Russians would agree with me here that they could well have botched the job
Just checked his KGB record, when he was deputy director of the KGB Department for the Nagorno Karabakh Republic between 1989 and 1991, well, I would never have guessed, he suddenly became Director after his boss died in an unexplained helicopter crash…
IVANOV Sergey Semenovich (October-November 28, 1991) [1]
Deputy Head:
GASUMYANOV Vladislav Ivanovich (1989 – 1991)
V.I.Gasumyanov
[1] Killed at helicopter crash. In 1991, the acting president chief – V.I.Gasumyanov;
http://shieldandsword.mozohin.ru/kgb5491/terr_org/respublik/azerbaijan/nkao.htm
Who needs enemies when you have colleagues like him.
Here was me thinking we had found a replacement for Machiavelli lately.
Who? Theresa May or Boris?
Typo i meant “hadn’t”
I am a very lazy typist
Navigating to a slight further eastern longitude & latitude it looks like some in Washtington DC are trying to give John Bolton ideas on how to start the war on Iran. As if he of all people needed any new ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=108&v=iTkXesMB3YU
Have to admire Helmer’s doggedness in pursuing Fiona Charles-Barks and Christine Blanshard at the Salisbury General, for some honesty. Charles-Barks? Like the dog that didn’t? Or rather, the bitch. Blanshard? Not the sharpest shard on the barrier, by the sound of things.
——— The below is quoted from Helmer’s Saturday piece, Salisbury Hospital Becomes Secret Rendition Centre for Yulia Skripal —————-
To: “Patrick Butler”
Cc: “Cara Charles-Barks” ; “Paul Russell (PP Manager)” ; “Christine Blanshard”
Sent: 07/04/2018 11:20:25
Subject: Request for proof of Yulia Skripal’s consent
Dear Ms Charles-Barks and Dr Blanshard:
Your last line in your email to me of April 4 was changed by Dr Blanshard’s sudden decision to issue a statement on Friday afternoon confirming that Mr Sergei Skripal is no longer unconscious. I refer to this release: https://www.england.nhs.uk/south/2018/04/06/updates-on-the-salisbury-incident-6/
Ms Yulia Skripal had confirmed this, as you know, a day and a half earlier in her Thursday morning conversation with her cousin, Ms Victoria Skripal. You have added to the evidence dispelling media speculation that the call was not a genuine one, and I am most grateful for your contribution.
May I refer you to Dr Blanshard’s claim in the Friday statement — “Yulia has asked for privacy while she continues to get better”. The Metropolitan Police statement quotes Ms Skripal as saying “I hope that you’ll respect my privacy and that of my family during the period of my convalescence.”
Two requests, please:
— it is universal hospital policy that patients sign consent forms relating to care, to contact with next of kin, and to privacy. You were referring to this when you said in your statement — “Yulia has asked”. Do you have these signed consents from Ms Skripal, and if you do, I request you prove it.
— I have highlighted two word forms in the Metropolitan Police quotation of Ms Skripal’s remarks. These cannot be translations from the Russian language we know Ms Skripal uses. They are also English idioms which she cannot form herself. Do you as the responsible physician have evidence that Ms Skripal’s exposure to the purported nerve agent has improved her English beyond the level she exercised prior to March 4.
I invite you to respond promptly.
In the event that you do not answer the questions, I am obliged to remind you, as before, that you will be reported as refusing to answer.
Yours sincerely,
Dr John Helmer
It was me who put Helmer up to it actually,
I sadly notice that nobody is admiring Billy’s doggedness in pursuing the mother-in-law/caucasian gangsters angle.
Occam’s Razor at work, likely.
I wouldn’t put it past him
In 2013 a Chemical Nerve Agent Attack was directed against East Ghouta.
The US said there was “no possible alternative explanation” other than that Assad was responsible.
The US asked Britain to take part in a bombing campaign against Assad and his forces as a punishment for what Assad had done with the primary objective of removing Assad from power.
Cameron’s government said it wanted to help the US kill some Syrians and remove Assad but Parliament said No!
Later it was proved conclusively that it could not have been Assad’s Forces that carried out the attack.
https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/possible-implications-of-bad-intelligence.pdf
It was never investigated further who did carry out the attack.
Is it possible that the same culprit is responsible this time?
More than likely, that explains why Hamish de Bretton-Khartoon was involved up to his neck in the skripal prelude.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-02-05/syria-chemical-attacks-controversy-continues