There Is Another England 1079


Given the centuries of economic exploitation, political domination and depopulation, I perfectly understand why many Scots support any team at the World Cup which is playing England. But, with an English mother and two English grandparents who largely brought me up, I do not feel that way and I raised a glass at Harry Kane’s late winner. Let me tell you why.

My grandfather Henry was a lifelong socialist who had no illusions about the British Empire and its role in the World. Yet he was also a patriotic Englishman whose life, like so many of his generation, was largely defined by the struggle against Nazism, in which his only son had been killed. That focus on the Second World War partly explained his fondness for the Soviet Union, in discussing the abuses of which he would always remark “But you have to consider what came before. Given where they started, they are making progress”. He would recite “A man’s a man for a’that” to me as a small child and explain its meaning. Yet Henry would fly his St George’s flag proudly when occasion warranted it. I do not therefore automatically associate that flag with UKIP or with Essex man.

Because there is another England, that from which Henry sprang, the England documented lovingly by E P Thomson and vividly recorded by Robert Tressell, the England of William Hazlitt, Mary Wollstonecraft, the Putney debates and Thomas Paine. Michael Foot embodied the inherited wisdom of that tradition and it has re-emerged with unexpected vigour in the shape of Jeremy Corbyn, a man whose attraction lies in the very fact he encapsulates notions of basic decency that the English political elite had attempted to cast off.

I regard Scottish Independence as part of the continuing process of decolonisation. Ireland’s population will in the next decade overtake Scotland’s for the first time in centuries, and as of today Ireland’s GDP per capita stands 25% higher. Scotland can never achieve its potential without first achieving its Independence. But we can do that without wishing ill to our neighbours; some of them are quite nice.


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  • Sharp Ears

    Pity those unfortunate people who have been housed in these horror holes.

    Broadwater Farm towers to be demolished
    Two 1970s tower blocks on the Broadwater Farm estate in north London are set to be demolished after serious structural failings were discovered.
    https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/broadwater-farm-towers-to-be-demolished

    ‘Grenfell two in the post’ if cladding not banned
    ‘Edward Daffarn, who lived on the 16th floor of the tower, had written a blog six months before the blaze warning of the risk.
    Also representing Grenfell United, he told the committee: “There are 300 buildings with this cladding on… [it] is a disgrace.

    “Grenfell two is in the post unless you act and act quickly. The government needs to take responsibility for this, step in, end people’s misery, end people’s fear and act.”

    Jacqui Haynes, who chairs the Lancaster West Residents’ Association and lived next to the tower, added: “We are all sitting here, knowing the potential of those materials, knowing after the disaster what the possibilities are, and therefore we are all culpable sitting here with that knowledge.’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44546470

    There is indeed ‘another England’;.

    • Sharp Ears

      Further.
      ‘More than 200 homes on the Broadwater Farm estate in north London are at risk of catastrophic collapse and all the families are to be urgently moved out following tests carried out in the wake of the Grenfell Tower disaster.

      Two residential blocks, which were completed in the early 1970s are among 11 buildings on the Tottenham estate that failed structural tests, are the most seriously affected and are likely to be demolished.

      The tests uncovered serious structural failings, which make the homes vulnerable to collapse in the event a gas pipe or gas canister explodes or a vehicle strikes the base of the buildings. Tangmere House, a six-storey block, and Northholt, an 18-storey block, are those worst affected.’
      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/20/two-tottenham-tower-blocks-at-risk-of-catastrophic-collapse

      What next?

  • giyane

    It wasn’t a struggle against Nazism, any more than today a struggle against Islamism. The British created both nihilistic ideologies solely in order to project their own pathetic poshness over there European rivals, and today in order to assert it, i.e. BBC received values, over the vastly superior truth of Islam which is now their neighbour in a travel-shrunken world.

    Sorry, but Radio 4 was advertising shares in SKY, scientific grants to the children of the very rich, and football
    while I was trying to have a cuppa. Derr. Obviously the one thing a radio addict needs is shares in SKY. The BBC assumes that anybody listening to the radio is temporarily separated from their TV, rather than allergic to TV. Of course I need shares in the world’s largest manufacturer of corporate fake news.

    British values stink. I saw a photo yesterday of two of the world’s most mis-guided people celebrating celebrity, The Queen and Prince Saud. Both of them glowing in the anus horribilis of having tried to wreck their neighbours around the Mediterranean basin with war, and slavery to bonkers Islamists manufactured by Nazi-style rendition-torture-brainwashing. Lending eachother a supporting cuppa in consolation for having had their plans ruined by Russia and China. They can both stink together. Long may their crumbling dynasties rot in the fire of Hell.

    No mention of Zionism in that. The elephant of Zionism was strangely missing in the photo of the world’s two leading zios, even if it was detectable in the BBC ad for shares in SKY. Why why why?

    • Merandor

      “Vastly superior truth of Islam”
      Stopped reading there as you are clearly clinically insane.

    • Resident Dissident

      “It wasn’t a struggle against Nazism, any more than today a struggle against Islamism. The British created both nihilistic ideologies solely in order to project their own pathetic poshness over there European rivals”

      Complete and utter garbage

    • Resident Dissident

      And surely when Zionism is used in this context it is quite clearly racism.

      • Charles Bostock

        He is clearly a deeply disorientated and very disturbed individual. Is this what a public school and Oxford education managed to produce?

      • giyane

        yes, dislike of the political malignity of ethnic supremacy i.e. apartheid.
        How do you manage to live in a non – diversity cocoon?

    • glenn_nl

      Congratulations, Giyane – you’ve managed to unite just about everyone with this post!

    • Squeeth

      Both world wars were fought for the balance of power, that the Germans fought in Europe like the western Europeans and their transatlantic upstart colonies fight everywhere, has been contained by putting the conventional as well as the unconventional (nazi) forms of colonial repression in the same portmanteau. Make an analogy of modern colonial repression with the nazi regime and you’ll find that the evidence has been covered by the zionist cloak – See Philip Angry for an example or two.

  • BSA

    Scotland’s ‘Anyone but England’ attitude regarding football has little to do with the sport. It has everything to do with the fact that Scotland, uniquely in Europe, has another country’s broadcaster which assumes that we identify with that country.

  • Sharp Ears

    Trump is like the wind. Changeable.

    Trump backs down on migrant family separations policy
    US President Donald Trump has bowed to public pressure and signed an executive order promising to “keep families together” in migrant detentions.

    Mr Trump reversed his own policy amid international fury over the separation of undocumented parents and children.

    He said he had been swayed by images of children who have been taken from parents while they are jailed and prosecuted for illegal border-crossing.
    /..
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44552852

    • Tony

      Great to see he has backed down.

      In the Guardian the other day, Hadley Freeman used this matter to condemn those who did not vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016. No criticism of Hillary Clinton for failing to win their support.

      I do not think that she would have met Kim Jong Un and we might have got into a war with Russia by now if she had been elected. Splitting of families would then have been the least of our concerns.

      If there had been a bigger outcry, then it would have been possible to defeat the administration’s plans for new, smaller nuclear weapons.

      https://www.stripes.com/news/us/trump-poised-to-get-new-low-yield-nuclear-weapons-1.532639

      • Rhys Jaggar

        I really would not take too much notice of Hadley Freeman. She uses her ‘wimmin issues’ to cultivate a role at the Guardian, but her logical coherence has long been more than suspect.

        • Herbie

          “She uses her ‘wimmin issues’ to cultivate a role at the Guardian,”

          It’s all Hadlies at The Guardian.

          Logical coherence has little to do with it.

          They have to give an impression of crusading for something, and since they don’t want to critique the corporate and banking fraud, they campaign on superficial identity issues.

          That’s the softer argument.

    • MJ

      “Mr Trump reversed his own policy”

      It was actually Clinton’s, Bush’s and Obama’s policy first.

  • Sharp Ears

    Copied from an e-mail to a friend.

    ‘I have written to Amnesty International UK regarding the solitary confinement/torture of Julian Assange on British soil. They have no position on his situation as a political prisoner and are failing to work on his behalf. They have instructions from central AI. It appears that this institution is also captured.’

    • Sharp Ears

      I put that badly. The e-mail was not mine and was sent by somebody else to a friend.

      Jeremy is paralysed in all matters by the presence of the J lobby

        • Charles Bostock

          I think she means the “J***sh lobby”, IrishU. You know – the Rothschilds, Goldman Sachs, the New York financiers of the Bolshevik coup d’etat, the Friends of Israel, those married to J**s or with J***ish relatives, Peter Mandelson, Jared Kushner, etc . I believe that Craig sincerely detests these sorts of comments and feel that it is high time that he issues a public rebuke to those that make them. Age, ignorance and the generational aspect should not justify issuing a free pass to obsessives of this ilk.

        • Sharp Ears

          IrishU Are you Dreolin?

          I used the initial letter as use of the whole word sends the comment into modertation.

          Habbabkuk is being his usual helpful self. Thanks. It’s a pity he does not make any contributions on here, just his sniping.

      • Squeeth

        Only if he wants to be. “Fear” of the zionist cloak is no more than a pretext to do the dirty and blame the contractor.

  • Radar O'Reilly

    There is, always has been, and always will be another England.

    except the land of the Angles seemed to start around 897AD, (c.f. Scotland, with Pictish King at Scone, Cináed mac Ailpín, 54 years earlier than the first reference to Angleland)

    So, let me slowly pass to NATO, GCHQ and the “EU needs us” mentality https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/06/20/gchq_director_brexit_speech_nato/

    way back in 2016, a prof at Einstein’s former school in Zürich opined ““It’s a bad day for Europe, the U.K., and European science. I think the E.U. funding was such a significant part of U.K. science funding. I think this will really lead to a dramatic drop in funding, and it will not be made up by charities or national government. This will disproportionately affect young European researchers, who are largely funded on soft money. I find this extremely worrying,” says Helga Nowotny, a former president of the European Research Council and professor emerita of social studies of science at ETH Zurich in Switzerland” from http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/06/researchers-deplore-uk-decision-leave-european-union

    but that scaremongering , using scientific collaboration as a sentiment marker, was then, and now is now, and my friends in Brussel, working for the many-headed Hydra itself, mention that England is being summarily struck from any planning, collaboration, funding, competition, research-proposal, grant, fellowship, stage, joint-venture, budget-proposal, scientific-partnership, association-agreement ad infinitum. NOTHING WILL SURVIVE post March 30th. It’s has a whiff of Napoleon encountering a scorched Russia when he invaded 206 years ago. Of course this is the opposite, a tactical withdrawal for [party ideology/a sovereign Albion] the links and bridges in Europe are being scorched, erased as we breathe by a one eyed hexagonal? “Kutuzov” Eurocrat; you professional typists here that work for the agencies might dream of Euro.pol, Euro.Terror, Euro.Securo collaboration – but it is now that you need to give the deep and binding arguments, not press-puffs, as England is being actively and ruthlessly removed from the Euro.future. I do get a feeling that there is a space reserved somewhere for Old Caledonia, Western Norway, Southern Iceland, whatever the allegiance and branding that will ensue. I suppose .

    Personally, I haven’t yet decided where my centre of interests lie, but in Nice at the weekend I met an (English) friend who was recently denied a settled status (eu permanent residence visa) in France for not having worked there for long enough, his (English) family, living in Italy were just denied a settled status (eu permanent residence visa) in Italy for not having sufficient ties, (they have lived there long enough) – at least the nice Italians mentioned that they would try and find a way to let the family pass the rules. The rules may well change in 2019, becoming worse. My friend designs/tests military helicopters.

    • laguerre

      “I met an (English) friend who was recently denied a settled status (eu permanent residence visa) in France for not having worked there for long enough,”

      I don’t think in France it’s a matter of a “permanent” residence visa. You get a ‘carte de séjour’, which will be for 10 years. It’s been reported that the practice of different préfectures de police is variable, so maybe your friend happened upon a difficult one.

    • Geoffrey

      If you are correct Radar, and the EU wants to burn the bridges in pique(and block the tunnel as well ?),then we are in for trouble. We of course (but don’t tell anyone) do have a few cards,like the large amount of EU (and ex EU ) people living here. But it will be ugly.

      • laguerre

        It’s only a question of pique in the minds of the Brexiters who are blaming the EU to avoid their own responsibility. Britain decided to leave, so they leave. It’s that simple. Brexit means Brexit, as some forgettable person once said.

        And now you’re planning to take vengeance on EU citizens in the UK, I see.

        • Geoffrey

          The UK is neither Napoleon nor Hitler, therefore no need for General Kutozov.

          • laguerre

            That is what you are claiming, not what the EU is actually doing. The EU is a rules-based organisation, you either take part or you don’t. God, Brexiters are getting whinier and whinier, cake and eat it, cake and eat it all the time.

          • Charles Bostock

            “The EU is a rules-based organisation”

            Correct, but with more leeway to break the rules given to some Member States than to others.

            Take intra-Schengen border controls, for example : I wonder how many are aware that the French STILL have passport controls at their airports, although the rules say that these can only be temporary (eg, on the occasion of major sporting events and the like giving rise to abnormally high – but temporary – levels of ingress). Pretexting the threat of terrorism, France is clearly breaking or at least playing fast and loose with the rules ….and the Commission does nothing.

            As it happens, the UK has a rather good record for not breaking EU rules – as the number of cases initiated against the UK before the ECJ reveals.

        • Loony

          There is no doubt that there is pique – but it is not coming from the British.

          For all the manifest failings of the British and their traitorous political class they have still managed to deliver a fatal blow to the bloated, corrupt and rotting edifice that is the EU.

          Soon there will be a vote in Poland to determine whether Polish law is to rank above EU law. In Hungary Orban has acted to expel the malign influence of the globalists. Italy and its 5* movement is acting to rescue Italy from the economic, social and cultural destruction inflicted by the EU.

          Only yesterday students in Alicante were given 24 hours notice to vacate their residency in order to make room for newly arrived migrants. In the greatest of ironies some of those students were studying German – which was a necessary requirement of their obtaining future employment in Germany, How long will Spain continue to endure the national humiliation inflicted by the EU?

          Anti EU sentiment is on the rise in Austria, the Czech Republic and Slovakia. Even in Germany the AfD are a growing force, acutely aware of the ultimate fate that awaits all colonial powers, and keen to ensure that Germany does not exchange short term power for long term destruction.

          The last elections in France were one cycle too early for the Front National – but Macron will be the last of quisling leaders elected in France. The absolute refusal of the EU to compromise all but guarantees that some very unpleasant people are to be elected in Europe, The last best hope of avoiding this outcome is to get behind the unwashed masses in the UK and act to kill the flailing beast that is the EU as quickly and humanely as possible.

          Any failure to stand with the mass of the British people will ensure that the gods will wreak a terrible vengeance on Europe. When Europe burns, and it surely will if the EU is not destroyed, perhaps then you will realize the awesome insights contained within the collective mass of the people. The EU assault on knowledge and education have utterly failed to eradicate the vast residue of instinctive wisdom contained within the citizenry.

          Onward now to victory, and slay the beast.

          • laguerre

            “There is no doubt that there is pique – but it is not coming from the British.”

            Ah yes, the eternal voice of the Brexiter! Why won’t the EU let us have our cake and eat it? It’s not fair, they’ve been saying forever.

          • Jo Dominich

            Loony, do not mistake anti-immigration laws for anti-EU laws. I am not sure what the Brexiteers thought was going to happen when we left the EU. Of course they are not going to allow a non-member state into all those areas – if you aren’t in it then you can’t participate in it on a selective basis that suits the UK. May’s Govt couldn’t be making a worse mess of the Brexit negotiations – putting Party politics before the good of the nation. It’s not the EU that are piqued – they have been open and honest about the blocks to negotiations and they are right, our Team do not have a clue about the Treaty upon which the negotiations are based. I did say in a blog yesterday, it won’t be long now before the MSM (the Tory’s party propaganda machine) will roll into anti-EU “they’ve got it in for us, it’s their fault narrative”. Well it isn’t their fault – May triggered Article 50 in haste without having a clue about the Treaty, about what the negotiations would be based on, she didn’t even have a clear view as to what the UK wanted out of Brexit. It seems the good ol’ Empire mentality is being applied – “We are Great Britain you do as we say and give us what we want@. Our Brexiteer team have been talking the language of war not negotiations – not a good climate in which to negotiate.

          • Andyoldlabour

            I tend to agree with this post, because even before the referendum the EU was obviously quite anti British – Junkers, Tusk etc.
            The EU is at the moment taking legal action against Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Austria and the Czech Republic over their refusal to accept migrant quotas.
            What is interesting about those countries, is that they do not contribute anything to the EU. Sure they pay fees, but the money which they all receive in the form of grants and funding means that they are all debtors – debts which will never be paid.
            There are currently only three or four countries who are nett contributors to the EU, one of the largest is the UK – what do we get for our money?
            Our money goes towards building the infrastructure – roads, airports, railways etc of countries such as the five above, plus any number of others who do not contribute a cent.
            But that is OK, because our roads and railways, schools, the NHS, are all in perfect condition.
            Aren’t they?

          • Loony

            @Jo Dominich You are confusing a number of issues. The British political class are for the most part entirely captured by the EU and will do all in their power to not actually leave the EU.

            A good number of people who voted for the UK to leave the EU did so in the hope that their vote would pull down the whole rotting structure. Reasons exist to suppose that such a hope was and is credible. Most of the rest of the people simply wanted the UK to leave the EU. What is there to negotiate? We are leaving goodbye.

            Maybe the EU should bear in mind the words of one Mr. Strummer “Someone locks me out, I kick my way back in. And if I get aggression I give it two times back” It is hard to see how the British could improve on that as a negotiating strategy.

          • Vivian O'Blivion

            In reply to Andyoldlabour.
            Yes, the UK is a net contributor to the EU budget, what of it!
            Our budget contribution is being used to fund infrastructure projects in less developed parts of the EU, what of it!
            This is entirely normal whether on a national scale or a supranational scale.
            Visit the Highlands & Islands and you cannot fail to see the bridges, road upgrades and other infrastructure projects funded in part or in their entirety by the EU budget when the region had priority status.

            http://ec.europa.eu/regional_policy/en/funding/erdf/

            Now the prioritised funding has moved on.
            The population of the Highlands & Islands has for the first time in a very long time stabilised and started to grow.
            I am not claiming that Westminster never directed development funding at the Highlands & Islands, it did, but this was in the form of stand alone industrial units in a rural economy with poor transportation links, most if not all failed. The Westminster policy was a largely inevitable outcome of the one governmental term at a time focus of all national governments.
            I am not claiming that the EU directed regional funding was directly responsible for population growth either, but it did facilitate it.
            Other regions of the UK were also the recipients of regional funding.
            The democratic deficit of the EU administrative functions does sometimes produce results that would otherwise be unobtainable.
            Where has Westminster investment been disproportionately directed in recent years? Try the SE of England.

          • Charles Bostock

            “Soon there will be a vote in Poland to determine whether Polish law is to rank above EU law”

            Actually this is already am integral part of the constitutional set up of the German Federal Republic – but a part downplayed both by the FRG and the EU institutions.

            Occasionally, EU law gets taken to the Federal Constitutional Court to verify that it is not against the German Constitution. So far, the Court has always ruled that it is – sometimes via a slight of hand – but the possibility remains that the Court could one day rule than an EU law is in conflict with the Constitution, in which cqs the EU law could not be applied as it stood.

            That is actually a good example of how Brussels treats dufferent Member States differently. Germany good, Poland bad.

    • Rhys Jaggar

      Look, the EU funds science in the main to bolster the EU, not to further science. We could easily reallocate whatever percentage of our EU contributions to UK science and we could easily encourage European partnerships with matched funding from elsewhere.

      We have the option to set up joint science programmes with US, Russia, India, China, Australia, wherever. We will not suddenly be incapable of doing science outside the EU.

      European Science projects are best focussed on big ticket long term arenas where critical mass of Europe brings decisive benefits.

      This ‘science ends with Brexit’ is short-term nonsense.

      It only stops if UK politicians decide to let it stop.

    • Kerch'ee Kerch'ee Coup

      It was well before that that the Venerable Bede compiled his History of the English Chuch and People, while much of Southern Scotland was under Northumbrian influence. Even today there are quite as big differnces between the Lallans/ BritishLowlands and the Pictish/Gaelic Highlands as among the Three Kingdoms.
      I notice that the writer who celebrated/mournedour Englishness perhaps most effectively last century, G.K. Chesterton, is up for cannonisation, arousing the ire of the Chronic and the Backward.

    • laguerre

      You’ve misunderstood the story, Macky.. It’s really about French sensitivity to poor educational standards, which a lot of French would go along with (and so would we have in the old days).

      • Macky

        I don’t think that I’ve misunderstood a quite nasty public humiliation of an impressionable schoolchild, and perhaps you are mistaking concern for educational standards instead of a crude display of reinforcement for unthinking conformity & deference to authority.

        • laguerre

          Yes, you have misunderstood, especially if you’ve been reading anti-French articles in British media. Macron’s tone in the video is that of a teacher telling off a kid for a mistake. It’s not like Sarkozy calling a farmer un vieux con and racaille (riff-raff) at the entrance to the national Agricultural show. He lost the election there and then.

          • Macky

            Let’s agree to respect each other’s misunderstanding, as I stand by mine, and no I don’t have a habit of reading anti-French articles per se, just this one caught my eye, and makes sense to me; yes similar to Sarkozy, Macron will no doubt be made to regret this incident, especially taking to using this boy’s humiliation on social media to make his “point”, most will simply see a cruel bullying authoritarian showing his true colours.

          • Charles Bostock

            Laguerre

            Sarko used “racaille” in connection with some of the youth of the Parisian banlieue, not against a farmer.

            And neither event is why he lost the election, as such a sophisticated and honest commenter as you surely knows.

          • laguerre

            Bostock

            You’re right about where the reference to racaille was said, I was forgetting, but not about the rest. He destroyed his presidency by insulting French farmers, a very powerful lobby.

          • Herbie

            “Mistake”!!

            What are you talking about.

            The kid was taking the piss.

            Should have told banker boy to go fuck himself.

            Like an English kid would have done.

    • Sharp Ears

      I saw a video of him saying that as he was glad handing the youngsters. He is a jumped up little twerp.

        • Herbie

          Macron’s just pissed that Trump treated him like the boy he is.

          Now Macron is taking it out on the kids.

          Could be a stunt to similar purpose of course. The kid was just a bit too rich-looking, cute and wimpy for it to be much other than some metrosexual confection, masquerading as manliness, control and leadership.

          I mean, the Trudeau child has been doing similars.

    • Sharp Ears

      The video you linked to displays Macron talking down to a teenager, telling him to call him Mr President. It speaks volumes. He IS a jumped up little twerp, oh and for another reader on here, once worked for Rothschilds. Perhaps he still does. 🙂

  • Sharp Ears

    Greg Hands, a Trade Minister and MP for Chelsea and Fulham, has resigned today over the Heathrow Third runway proposals.

    Boris Johnson, Foreign Secretary and MP for Uxbridge, promised his constituents that he ‘would lie down in front of a bulldozer’ to stop it happening, will be out of the country on Monday when there is a vote on the matter. Most convenient for him. He is a disgrace and should be sacked.

    • bj

      will be out of the country

      200 pounds (just guessing) says he’ll take a plane.

    • Rhys Jaggar

      That is the same BJ who, before being parachuted into his safe seat, wanted hundreds of his new constituents to be made unemployed or forcibly relocated by beating the drum for a new hub airport in Kent to take the place of Heathrow….

  • Tony

    People have their own perceptions.

    I am an atheist. I celebrate Christmas but not as a religious festival.

    In the Soviet Union, some people would have religious pictures on their walls next to pictures of Lenin and even Stalin! It is a curious business.

  • Sharp Ears

    This will knock the property boom on the head and accelerate the retail slump.

    August interest rate rise moves step closer

    ‘The Bank of England has kept interest rates on hold but given a firm signal that an August rate rise is likely.

    In a decisive move, Andrew Haldane, the Bank’s chief economist, joined two other Monetary Policy Committee members in voting to raise rates to 0.75%.

    The nine-member MPC was split 6-3, with Bank governor Mark Carney leading the group who voted to hold rates at 0.5%.’
    .
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44562162

    Rates last raised in April. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/personal-banking/mortgages/best-fixed-rate-mortgages-two-three-five-and-10-years/

    • Loony

      You seem completely enthralled by fake news.

      There will be no rate rise in August – and any suggestion that there will be is simple fake news. Presumably this comment will be recorded and so if I am wrong then evidencing my error will be straightforward. Once again there will be no rate rise in August.

      “Rates last raised in April” – Is also fake news. Yes, technically rates were raised in April, but they were only raised in order to reverse the politically inspired cut that occurred in the immediate aftermath of the Brexit vote. The increase took interest rates back to 0.5% which is exactly where they have been since March 2009.

      There is a wealth of BoE inspired literature that suggests that 0.5% represents the lower bound rate for the UK. Oddly enough none of that was of any interest when Carney breathlessly announced a cut to 0.25% in his attempt to punish the people for voting against his personal interests.

      Instead of endlessly posting fake news why not address some real issues. Like the fact that rates were taken to 0.5% in March 2009 as “an emergency measure” – How long is this emergency going to last? and what is being done to address the emergency?

      What is the exact nature of this emergency? World War 2 would seem to qualify as a national emergency and rates only ever hit 2% then – so presumably the current emergency is worse than World War 2. Why can’t anyone explain what it is? and why don’t people ask for an explanation?

      Maybe if you looked to understand what is going on then you would find answers to many of the other issues that you bleat ceaselessly about.

      • Charles Bostock

        Loony

        Thank you for presenting the facts about recent UK interest rates so accurately and honestly.

      • Kerch'ee Kerch'ee Coup

        “Jawboning” or talking the exchange rate up or down to blur the fundamental sickness of the economy

        • Charles Bostock

          Actually, Loony was writing about interest rates and not exchange rates.

  • Anon1

    The Aquarius has left Valencia and is currently steaming back to pick up more migrants a few miles off the coast of Libya and ferry them over to Europe !!

    • MJ

      Only a few years ago of course Libya was the richest country in Africa and was a destination for migrant labour, not a transit point.

      • Charles Bostock

        Yes, a country where black immigrants were exploited mercilessly just as elsewhere throughout the Arab world.

        I read somewhere that Arabs were actively involved in the slave trade, which Britain was one of the first countries to (belatedly) outlaw.

    • Loony

      Presumably that means more Spanish students will be expelled from their residencies. Maybe as operations are refined they will be able to provide the students with something more than 24 hours notice to get out of their accommodation.

      • Loony

        Ah yes all hail the “humanitarians of Médecins Sans Frontières. What exactly do they do? Well this provides a clue

        https://www.thirdsector.co.uk/medecins-sans-frontieres-apologises-sexual-misconduct-allegations-emerge/management/article/1485684

        Usual story of sexual abuse – thanks to their altruistic efforts they are making it easier to abuse Africans without actually needing to go to Africa to abuse them.

        Still – as you say good on them. Says a lot about you when you think about it.

          • Loony

            If it is a smear then why did they apologize?

            Also as the allegations originated from within MSF then it appears that they are smearing themselves. it seems odd for a humanitarian agency to smear itself.

        • Jo Dominich

          Loony what do you mean what exactly do they do. They provide urgent and necessary medical and surgical services in war torn zones, in countries where there are epidemics, in poor countries. Sometimes, like with the Ebola Virus outbreak, they are the only international medical service there. They were the organisation that reported the atrocious massacre at Jenine (Palestine) by the Israeli Government. In fact, they are a truly humanitarian organisation and the only Charity I donate to.

  • Sharp Ears

    P| William has opened the newly created rehab centre for injured military. It replaces Headley Court.

    The Duke of Westminster bought the property, Stanford Hall, and has donated it. Other donors (unnamed) have funded the conversion. Peerages for the donors|!

    Theresa was there of course. Don’t know if Williamson was there.

    Here’s her speech, crawling round the new Duke, Hugh..
    https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-speech-at-the-defence-and-national-rehabilitation-centre-21-june-2018

    ‘Hugh Richard Louis Grosvenor, 7th Duke of Westminster (born 29 January 1991), styled as Earl Grosvenor until August 2016, is a British aristocrat, billionaire, businessman and landowner. He is the third child and only son of the 6th Duke of Westminster and his wife, Natalia Phillips Grosvenor, Duchess of Westminster. He inherited the title of Duke of Westminster on 9 August 2016, on the death of his father. The duke is estimated to be worth £9 billion (US$13 billion), making him the world’s richest person under age 30.’

    He is one of P George’s +seven+ godparents. Of course.

    British Army’s injured soldiers to be treated at £300m centre in stately home
    Duke of Westminster-owned Stanford Hall in Nottinghamshire to become state-of-the-art rehabilitation centre funded by private donations https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10958094/British-Armys-injured-soldiers-to-be-treated-at-300m-centre-in-stately-home.html

    • John A

      “The Duke of Westminster bought the property, Stanford Hall, and has donated it. Other donors (unnamed) have funded the conversion. Peerages for the donors|!”

      If that family – the richest in Britain, or is that the Windsors – had paid inheritance tax instead of using a trust tax avoidance scheme, the government could buy property to house injured military as should be the case.
      We are fast moving back to the forelock tugging days and hoping for a few pennies tossed from a passing carriage of patrician toffs.

      • Bayard

        “the government could buy property to house injured military as should be the case.”
        Ah, the myth of fungible funding. They are far more likely to have spent it on new missiles to replace the ones fired at Syria or jets for the two new floating missile targets, or anything, in fact, except a rehab centre for servicemen.

  • Loony

    Another day, another easy win for President Trump.

    China reported to be seeking peace terms in the embryonic US/China trade war

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-21/china-fully-prepared-respond-more-us-tariffs

    It is all so very easy – next up will be the EU. Presumably the more deluded will try to blame that on Brexit. There is no way President Trump will allow Germany to squirrel all that money away whilst trying to hide behind the tattered cloth that is their European victims – sorry partners.

    • glenn_nl

      It appears that Trump will never run out of boot-lickers, at the very least. He just has to break wind and the sun rises in the morning, right?

  • Vivian O'Blivion

    The trial of those accused of the murder by fire bombing of toddler Ali Saad Dawabsheh and his parents in their West Bank home in 2015 continues its glacial pace.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180621-despite-settler-arson-confession-dismissed-by-israel-dawabsheh-family-persevere/

    Relatives leaving the court earlier this week were subjected to taunts of “Where is Ali? Ali’s on the grill.”
    “Defence Minister” Avigdor Lieberman states that little Ali does not qualify as a “terror victim”.

  • bill dobbs

    Never mind the football, where were you?
    Recent protest demonstrations made for Syrian bombing, Gazan shootings and the Assange detention were all poorly attended. Is the informed Englishman really indifferent to the stupid and cruel actions and inactions of our government?
    Early evening is an awkward time but far from impossible. Mr Murray travelled down from Edinburgh – sound speech from him and perhaps an even better one from Julie Hyland. ( well recorded here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bvP9sePSvE )
    She may have the reason for poor turnout – the failure of the Labour Party leadership to provide a specific lead on these moral issues.
    In fairness, Williamson (Chris,not the boy), did speak at the Downing Street event.

    • Loony

      Demonstrations protesting the incarceration of Tommy Robinson were rather better attended notwithstanding a failure by any major political party or any major media to provide a specific lead.

      It does seem that people care – albeit not about the same things that they are ordered to care about.

  • Sharp Ears

    The cowardly Occupiers have gone for Sara Netanhayu rather than Bibi.

    ‘Israeli PM Netanyahu’s wife charged with fraud
    Sara Netanyahu is accused of using public funds to order more than $100,000 of food to the PM’s residence from outside caterers.’

    ‘The PM also faces several police investigations into alleged corruption.

    In one case, he and family members are suspected of receiving $285,000 (£215,000) worth of luxury cigars, champagne and jewellery from wealthy personalities in exchange for financial or personal favours. In the other case, investigators suspect the premier of trying to reach an agreement with the owner of Yediot Aharonot, a top Israeli newspaper, for more favourable coverage’

    The bungs he allegedly received for the Dolfin submarine contract with Germany are not referred to.

    https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-pm-netanyahus-wife-charged-with-fraud-11412031

    • Charles Bostock

      There you go – this shows that Israel is a state under the rule of law, in which even the highest will have their collar felt if they break the law of the land. No one in Israel is above the law.

      Very different from the position in Israel’s neighbours, of course, but that is the difference between a liberal democracy and true authoritarian states.

      • lysias

        Julius Streicher, an old comrade of H——r, was removed from his position as Gauleiter of Franconia because of his corruption, sexual and otherwise. The SS had a court that punished SS officers found guilty of such misdeeds as embezzlement. Rule of law?

      • glenn_nl

        CB/H: “No one in Israel is above the law.

        The entire country considers itself above the law, let’s be serious for a moment. I suppose that is easier when you pretend an entire people don’t exist, are all terrorists, or are not quite human enough to deserve human rights. Particularly when those people have had their land occupied by you for 70 years, and have been made refugees in their own country.

        But as we all know, no Israeli has been treated by the law as committing a serious crime when they murder Palestinians. Collective punishment is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions, yet it is meted out on Palestinians regularly.

        Failing to acknowledge this (as I am sure you will) is an admission that you hide from the truth.

      • Squeeth

        The zionist occupation is no closer to the rule of law than the Generalgouvernment.

    • Sharp Ears

      But nothing will happen. The same has happened before several times. It’s just a pretence.

  • Carl

    G Galloway

    “If you support Israel’s crimes, if you supported the assault that broke Libya, if you supported the infestation of Syria by foreign head-choppers, if you back the genocide in Yemen but are upset by crying children in your own camps – you are just a hypocrite. That’s all”

    • Charles Bostock

      George was always a blusterer and has always relied on his great verbal fluency to mask the vacuous silliness of the majority of his political positions.

      It worked for quite a while but he came unstuck at the last general election. But there is no need to feel sorry for him as one supposes he’s quite comfortably off financially, what with his generous MP’s pension and his earnings from radio and television. Some would call him a former trougher and a current media whore but I would of course not be among them if only because I wouldn’t like to be sued by him.

      BTW, any news about George’s announced lawsuit against Philip Cross and “X”? Have proceedings begun?

        • glenn_nl

          Carl – did you notice “Charles” went nowhere near actually addressing the point, not the slightest attempt, but instead went solely for character assassination? He’s good at that.

        • Charles Bostock

          But has he really ever destroyed anyone’s position, Carl?

          I mean, he’s good at attempting to destroy people personally, eg by ridiculing them – usually people whom he knows are too well-mannered to answer back in the same way.

          But has he ever achieved anything? Persuaded a government to change tack? Initiated or even proposed any useful legislation (or indeed any legislation at all)? Changed anyone’s life for the better? Was he at least a good constituemcy MP?

          Take the little squib brought to our attention by Carl at 4.42 pm. Reads well, very well in fact, nice oratory… but then? It’s just hot air and directionless bluster, isn’t it?

          But at least he doesn’t mention Iraq in his list of countries……quite wise of him, I’d say.

          When all’s said and done, George doesn’t really add up to very much, does he.

  • Sharp Ears

    Melania is standing up to the auburn blond property developer.

    She is visiting a ‘migrant border facility on the US-Mexico border’ and has thanked everyone who works there for what they are doing for the 55 children who are being looked after..

    So there Donald.

  • Charles Bostock

    I hadn’t realised until the other day that Anne Milton, the Conservative MP for the parliamentary constituency of Guildford in Surrey since 2005, had worked as an NHS nurse for about 25 years.

    Like many NHS people working at the frontline (as opposed to the administrative tail – managers and their secretarial staff and so on), Anne Milton is admirably outspoken about the NHS. The PM should appoint her Health minister.

      • lysias

        If a formerly vociferous opponent of Scottish independence now supports it, isn’t that a sign that things are changing?

    • Charles Bostock

      George says many things. To coin a phrase, he can talk the talk but can he walk the walk? That said, I can imagine that Americans find that sort of politically incorrect politician rather fascinating.

      • Sharp Ears

        He slaughtered the US Senate Committee in 2005. I am sure they remember it well.

        Galloway: The man who took on America
        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/galloway-the-man-who-took-on-america-491226.html
        19 May 2005 – Galloway: The man who took on America. How did one maverick MP manage to outgun a committee of senior US politicians so successfully?

        and Anna Botting remembers him too. LOL

        George Galloway MP Blasts Sky News & Anna Botting
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiUFgWzqupQ

        • bj

          He can walk the walk and knock you right off of your feet.
          Mister Corbyn should rehabilitate him.

          Thanks for the link to the article. I wonder who its author was.

        • Charles Bostock

          Yes, of course, everyone refers to that episode.

          But doesn’t it rather back up my argument about George Galloway, ie that he’s just a blustering loudmouth with great verbal ability, essentially a showman without much substance?

          For example, Norman Coleman, whom George “slaughtered” on that occasion, played an important role in the passage of the Pension Protection Act of 2006, which, in addition to safeguarding the pensions of all Americans, was credited with saving the pensions of over 24,000 Northwest Airlines employees and retirees in Minnesota.

          Has George Galloway ever achieved even 5% of anything similar?

          All talk but no walk, I’m afraid.

  • Robert Graham

    Sticking to the Subject , a fair point Craig I worked for an English based company for 20 odd years and found most fellow employees to be just the same as Scots surprise surprise ,We used to have yearly get togethers where English -Scots -Irish & Welsh would trade insults , jokes and general banter and ideas , we would have heated conversations yes but no hatred towards anyone , One time we were all staying in Canterbury University student accommodation for the conference and when the bars closed a merry line of escapees were making their way to Dover to visit France before wise heads in management explained the folly of our journey and we all headed back , we are no different . The current constitutional wrangle well suits some sections of the political elite its being used just like the catholic v Protestant divide and rule argument ,most English & Scots would get on just fine left to their own devices without outside interference , dark forces with a twisted agenda are at work just now and it could indeed end in violence that would suite these people ,Ruthless would not be disturbed i believe, just look at some of the tory party in scotland and some of their distasteful followers .

  • Sharp Ears

    The Tories have handed over another contract to Crapita, this time for fire and rescue services for the military. One would think that the military is capable of carrying out these functions for themselves.

    The contract is for £400m! and was announced today in the Commons by Ellwood, an ex Army officer. There was consternation and criticism of this contract being awarded as Crapita have a dreadful record of incompetence and have failed on many other previous contracts. Last year they made a loss of £half a billion!

    https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-06-21/debates/AA4D8976-B5BC-4046-A432-9B7C05AB0F75/DefenceFireAndRescueProjectCapita

    Fabian Hamilton Lab Leeds NE was almost jeering. Several MPs of other parties were questioning of the decision especially following the Carillion collapse.

    General ridicule. This from the Forces.net blog.

    Government Accused Of ‘Outsourcing Racket’ After Capita Given Defence Contract
    https://www.forces.net/news/government-accused-outsourcing-racket-after-capita-given-defence-contract

    Capita given £500m MoD job despite highest risk rating
    https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/companies/contractors/carillion/capita-given-500m-mod-job-despite-highest-risk-rating/10032292.article

    and from The Register. Just look at the headlines.
    https://www.theregister.co.uk/Tag/capita

  • Sharp Ears

    Oh what a shame!

    Occupied’ East Jerusalem: Prince William infuriates Israel with statement on royal visit
    Prince William has angered Israel’s Jerusalem Affairs Minister Zeev Elkin by referring to East Jerusalem as part of the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), in a statement detailing his upcoming trip to the Middle East.

    In a facebook post, Israel’s Elkin was enraged by the Prince’s OPT reference, claiming Jerusalem was “unified” and “has been the capital of Israel for over 3,000 years.”

    Elkin wrote: “It’s regrettable that Britain chose to politicise the Royal visit. Unified Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel for over 3,000 years and no twisted wording of the official press release will change the reality. I’m expecting the prince’s staff to fix this distortion.”

    The Duke of Cambridge is due to arrive in the region on June 25 to embark on a tour of Jordan, Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories. As part of that tour, the prince will visit the occupied Old City of Jerusalem.

    Kensington Palace has released a statement detailing that the prince would be meeting Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah, as well as visiting refugee communities; enabling him to enjoy the company of young Palestinians and “celebrate Palestinian culture, music and food.”

    It’s details of the prince’s second day that has infuriated Elkin. The statement goes on to say: “The next day’s programme in the Occupied Palestinian Territories will begin with a short briefing on the history and geography of Jerusalem’s Old City from a viewing point at the Mount of Olives.”

    The Old City is located in East Jerusalem which has been considered occupied since 1967 under international law. Furthermore, the UN Security Council considers “all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, including expropriation of land and properties thereon, which tend to change the legal status of Jerusalem are invalid and cannot change that status.”

    Official details have not yet been released on what religious sites will be included in the prince’s trip but, according to Israeli news website Ynet News, an informed source has said that William would visit Al-Aqsa Mosque, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, the Church of Saint John the Baptist and Al-Buraq (Western) Wall.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/430422-prince-william-israel-anger/

    I suppose the heir to the throne, once removed, has been ordered to make the visit by order of the CFoI ridden Tory government.

    • MightyDrunken

      “Unified Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel for over 3,000 years”.

      I never knew that., I must brush up on my history.

      • Herbie

        The rallying cry used to be:

        “A land without a people,
        For a people without a land.”

        Don’t exactly suggest such continuity as you describe.

        Thank the lord we’ve now got real, real estate guys, to sort out the details.

  • mickc

    Craig,
    I agree with the tenor of your article, in that there is always “another England” no matter what country one is talking about. There are undoubtedly still decent Americans who represent and believe in what the USA once was, a Republic not an Empire. I imagine they couldn’t vote for either Trump or Hillary.

    However, I don’t agree with your snipes at various groups; it smacks of tabloid journalism. You infer that UKIP and Essex Man are beyond the pale; many members of the former simply believed the EU to be anti democratic and Britain should leave, many “Essex Men” worked hard to provide for their families. I think you now believe the EU to be anti democratic.

    And yes, hopefully Corbyn can bring about much needed change in this country.

    Incidentally, and to avoid charges of special pleading, I am not a member of UKIP, an Essex Man or indeed a member of Labour; I would also mention that Michael Foot had many qualities but “The Guilty Men” of which he was an author, was yellow journalism of the first order.

  • Sharp Ears

    This is shocking. Branson takes £2m from OUR NHS

    Billionaire Branson’s Virgin Care successfully sues NHS for £2m in public money

    Sir Richard Branson’s Virgin Care group has successfully sued the NHS, after losing out on an £82m contract to provide children’s healthcare services in Surrey – pocketing £2m of public money in the process.
    Jun 21, 2018 16:21

    https://www.rt.com/uk/430468-branson-virgin-sues-nhs/

    Who was the medical director for Virgincare? Why. Dr Graham Henderson, husband of the Tory MP Anne Milton. He is her second husband. She was one of the health ministers under Lansley who put through Cameron’s Health and Social Care Act in 2012. That Act has led to greatly increased privatisation of OUR NHS. Well done all.

    Graham Henderson
    Current
    Accident & Emergency Doctor at Royal Surrey County Hospital
    Past
    Medical Director (Surrey) at Virgin Care Ltd, Medical Director (Provider Services) at Surrey Primary Care Trust, Director of Public Health…
    Education
    London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, U. of London, The London Hospital Medical College
    https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Graham/Henderson

    Deviousness here.
    Anne Milton’s Wikipedia page edited from Parliament to change details of her husband’s link to Virgin Care …
    https://politicalscrapbook.net/2018/01/anne-miltons-wikipedia-page-edited-from-parliament-to-change-details-of-her-husbands-link-to-virgin-care/
    8 January 2018

    and here
    Previously Milton employed Henderson as her parliamentary office assistant (and claimed for it) when he was already employed by East Surrey PCT as Director of Health. She did not declare that fact as she should have done.

    Anne Milton, Dr Graham Henderson, and declarations of interest.
    http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2008/02/anne_milton_dr/
    (much more on that website)

    YCNMIU.

    Now she is minister for Skills and Apprenticeships under Greening who resigned in January, and now under Damian Hinds. The latter came from nowhere. Tory ministers change frequently these days!

    • Paul Barbara

      @ Sharp Ears June 21, 2018 at 20:47
      Hmmn, BDS on Virgin services? Sounds good to me.
      Though he didn’t win his bid to ‘manage’ the lottery, he is still a member of the ‘THEM’ classes.
      And form a hideous caricature of Jesus he once placed in his Oxford Street Virgin record shop, I have always been very wary of any of his ‘enterprise’. Again, BDS.

  • Charles Bostock

    I was wondering what sort of place would return Anne Milton with ever increasing majorities since 2005, so I looked up Guildford on Wikipedia.

    Among many other good things I particularly noticed the following:

    “In the 21st century Guildford still has a High Street paved with granite setts often referred to as cobbles,[41] and is one of the most expensive places to buy property in the UK outside London……. Guildford was voted the 9th best place to live in Britain in 2006[46] but slipped to 12th position in 2007, “largely due to the pollution produced by the numerous cars found on the roads”.”

    It sounds like my kinda town!

    I think anyone living in or around Guildford would have little to complain about at least from a personal point of view.

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