We are continually presented with experts by the mainstream media who will validate whatever miraculous property of “novichok” is needed to fit in with the government’s latest wild anti-Russian story. Tonight Newsnight wheeled out a chemical weapons expert to tell us that “novichok” is “extremely persistent” and therefore that used to attack the Skripals could still be lurking potent on a bush in a park.
Yet only three months ago we had this example of scores from the MSM giving the same message which was the government line at that time:
“Professor Robert Stockman, of the University of Nottingham, said traces of nerve agents did not linger. He added: ‘These agents react with water to degrade, including moisture in the air, and so in the UK they would have a very limited lifetime. This is presumably why the street in Salisbury was being hosed down as a precaution – it would effectively destroy the agent.'”
In fact, rain affecting the “novichok” on the door handle was given as the reason that the Skripals were not killed. But now the properties of the agent have to fit a new narrative, so they transmute again.
It keeps happening. Do you remember when Novichok was the most deadly of substances, many times more powerful than VX or Sarin, and causing death in seconds? But then, when that needed to be altered to fit the government’s Skripal story, they found scientists to explain that actually no, it was pretty slow acting, absorbed gradually through the skin, and not all that deadly.
Scientists are an interesting bunch. More than willing to ascribe whatever properties fit the government’s ever more implausible stories, in exchange for an MSM appearance fee, 5 minutes of fame and the fond hope of a research grant.
According to the Daily Telegraph today, the unfortunate Charlie Rowley is a registered heroin addict, and if true Occam’s Razor would indicate that is a rather more likely reason for his present state than an inexplicably persistent weaponised nerve agent.
If it is however true that two separate attacks have been carried out with “novichok” a few miles either side of Porton Down, where “novichok” is synthesised and stored for “testing purposes”, what does Occam’s razor suggest is the source of the nerve agent? A question not one MSM journalist seems to have asked themselves tonight.
I am slightly puzzled by the picture the media are trying to paint of Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess as homeless, unemployed addicts. The Guardian and Sky News both state that they were unemployed, yet Charlie was living in a very new house in Muggleton Road, Amesbury, which is pretty expensive. According to Zoopla homes range up to £430,000 and the cheapest ones are £270,000. They are all new build, on a new estate, which is still under construction.
Both Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess still have active facebook pages and one of Charlie’s handful of “Likes” is a mortgage broker, which is consistent with his brand new house. They don’t give mortgages to unemployed heroin addicts, and not many of those live in smart new “executive housing” estates. Both Charlie and Dawn appear from their facebook pages to be very well socialised, with Dawn having many friends in the teaching profession. Even if she has been homeless for a period as reported, she is plainly very much part of the community.
Naturally, there is no mention in all the reports today of MI6’s Pablo Miller, who remains the subject of a D notice. I wonder if he knows Rowley and Sturgess, living in the same community? It should be recalled that Salisbury may be a city, but its population is only 45,000.
The most important thing is of course that Charlie and Dawn recover. But tonight, even at this early stage, as with the entire Skripal saga, the message the security services are seeking to give out does not add up. Mark Urban’s piece for Newsnight tonight was simply disgusting; it did not even pretend to be more than a propaganda piece on behalf of the security services, who had told Urban (as he said) that Yulia Skripal’s phone “could have been” tapped by the Russians and they “might even” have listened to her conversations through the microphone in her telephone. That was the “new evidence” that the Russians were behind everything.
As a former British Ambassador I can tell you with certainty that indeed the Russians might have tapped Yulia, but GCHQ most definitely would have. It is, after all, their job, and billions of our taxes go into it. If tapping of phones is seriously presented as evidence of intent to murder, the British government must be very murderous indeed.
And the freak show called the British House of Commons of course knows again it was Russia, no further evidence needed..Meanwhile even the Germans are waking up to the fact that no evidence to its Services has been forthcoming…https://www.ardmediathek.de/radio/Informationen-am-Mittag-Beitr%C3%A4ge-Deuts/Fall-Skripal-Berlin-hat-bis-heute-kein/Deutschlandfunk/Audio-Podcast?bcastId=21554262&documentId=52988286
Short translation: GB has not presented any evidence to Berlin that Russia was either responsible or had produced the poison used in the Skripal cae
I’ve wondered if a rapprochement between Germany and Russia might be one of the Anglosphere’s (TPTB) worst nightmares. Will there be a pivot?
I guess the US and it’s anglo poodle follow the Heartland Theory by Mackinder:
“Mackinder insisted on preventive measures of
various means to remain in control of the situation in the Pivot. One of them
consisted of controlling the “inner crescent.” He put his idea of Eastern
Europe as the key to the Heartland in a nutshell by saying: “whoever rules
East Europe commands the Heartland; whoever rules the Heartland
commands the World-Island; whoever rules the World-Island commands the
World.”7”
https://www.silkroadstudies.org/resources/pdf/Monographs/1006Rethinking-4.pdf
Blimey Peter, thank you. A fascinating read, but still digesting.
We’ve always been at war with Eurasia, Nick.
Please answer the question first: are you a UI or a CL?
I’m the ref obviously 😉
But yeah, sorry, I didn’t expect anyone to take it seriously.
And the freak show called the British House of Commons of course knows again it was Russia, no further evidence needed..Meanwhile even the Germans are waking up to the fact that no evidence to its Services has been forthcoming…https://www.ardmediathek.de/radio/Informationen-am-Mittag-Beitr%C3%A4ge-Deuts/Fall-Skripal-Berlin-hat-bis-heute-kein/Deutschlandfunk/Audio-Podcast?bcastId=21554262&documentId=52988286
https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/skripal-159.html
Short translation: GB has not presented any evidence to Berlin that Russia was either responsible or had produced the poison used in the Skripal case
To judge from the Guardin, Indie, and Radio 4, they’re really ramping up the story now in the media – they’re going for broke. Sounds like the political position at home is dire – May had little new to say to Merkel, and impossible to keep the Brexit nutters on board anyway. A national emergency might serve as distraction, you never know.
Simon Jenkins at the Guardian just posted an Op-Ed pretty much summing up all the loopholes we discussed.
Simon Jenkins needs to get with the basic facts.
“I suppose I can see why the Kremlin might want to kill an ex-spy such as Sergei Skripal and his daughter, so as to deter others from defecting. But why wait so long after he has fled”
Sergei Skripal did not defect and did not flee, he was exchanged.
Here is the link.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/05/novichok-wiltshire-poisoning-russia-putin-world-cup
Thank you jimbim – your link, and others, are providing me with some entertainment as I contribute to the discussion the FCO’s post on linkedin…. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6397827282790158337/
‘RUSSIA BEATS SPAIN (4-3). FIFA REACTS SELECTING RUSSIA’S GOALKEEPER FOR DOPING TESTS’:
https://southfront.org/russia-beats-spain-4-3-fifa-reacts-selecting-russias-goalkeeper-for-doping-tests/
Here we go, here we go, another ‘angle’ to bash the Bear.
@Paul Barbara.
He was ONE of the players selected to have a dope test – absolutely normal.
Are the UK public so stupid that they will believe any tory lie, the more outrageous the better? Well, are they? After the knuckledragger brexit vote, one cannot be sure.
The 40% who currently vote tory will, because blatant lies seem to pass them by.
According to a recent article on the Independent website: “One of the inventors of novichok has told The Independent he “completely understands the panic” of those living in the Salisbury area.
Vladimir Uglev, who worked on the substances for 15 years, said the nerve agent would likely stick around in Salisbury for many years to come. It was “near impossible” to detect, he added; it would be hard to know where it may be lurking.”
Interestingly, there is no facility to make comments on this particular article.
How much do we know about Uglev? Is he working with Mi6?
Is his real agenda to discredit Putin regardless of who is really responsible for the poisonings?
Or is he genuine?
The guy hasn’t worked since 1992 when Russia abandoned its chemical weapons program. He probably just needs a bit of cash.
Yep.
Just as a matter of detail, there is no such thing as a “registered heroin addict” and there hasn’t been for many many years.
And the’miltary grade’ nerve agent so talked about in episode 1 with so much meaning was meaningless. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/marketing-military-grade-what-actually-means-ken-marsh [‘Weapons grade’ is limited to nuclear material].Interesting ‘hot’ word.
Good point. It’s a bit like saying Harold Shipman was able to kill so many because he used weapons-grade morphine. Yet in this case the product hasn’t killed anybody so far so this whole “weapons-grade” tag is utter pap.
Simon Jenkins has just written an article on the Guardian entitled “If the novichok was planted by Russia, where’s the evidence? ”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/05/novichok-wiltshire-poisoning-russia-putin-world-cup
He’s right. It’s a totally evidence-free accusation. All of the evidence comes from various branches of the UK establishment.
There is no evidence in the public domain, just assertions. For historians, evidence-free assertions don’t make a great argument For the rest of us, we just call bullshit.
BBC speculating the applicator to Skripal door was found by Sturgess….yet an interviewer of a co resident of her is saying she was not right for several days before being taken to hospital….hmmmmm
I can’t see a professional hit-man leaving any evidence behind, which reduces the chances that Russia was responsible. If Russia was behind this, the Skripals would be dead and nothing would have been left behind for druggies to find.
Simon Jenkins is not entirely right:
“I suppose I can see why the Kremlin might want to kill an ex-spy such as Sergei Skripal and his daughter, so as to deter others from defecting. But why wait so long after he has fled”
Sergei Skripal did not defect and did not flee, he was exchanged.
But Bloody Hell he is writing in MSM that he is not convinced by official story. A straw in rhecwind?
Truthwillout, Ben Wallace is the UK’s Security Minister. The US doesn’t enter into it.
Well… That surprises me. He has constituents, so he can expect a bumper post bag… Assuming that constituents aren’t to lazy to write actual letters! Democracy can’t happen without the people being engaged.
Russian envoy ready to meet with UK security minister for discussing Salisbury incident
July 05, 19:26 UTC+3
Who does Wallace think he is?
Ben Wallace said he was awaiting a phone call from Russia with explanations for the use of a chemical agent in Salisbury
LONDON, July 5. /TASS/. Russian Ambassador to the UK, Alexander Yakovenko, is ready to meet with the UK Minister of State for Security in the Home Office, Ben Wallace, for discussing the incident in Salisbury, the press secretary of the Russian Embassy told TASS on Thursday.
Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova
Russian diplomat urges Downing Street to quit dwelling on ‘nerve agent’ conspiracies
He said Yakovenko was prepared to meet with Wallace in the wake of the latter man’s words he was awaiting a phone call from Russia with explanations for the use of a chemical agent in Salisbury.
“The Russian Ambassador to the UK is prepared to meet with Ben Wallace, and we have asked the British Interior officials of meetings of this kind on a number of occasions in connection with the Skripals case and after the murder of Russian citizen Nikolai Glushkov,” the press secretary said
/..
http://tass.com/politics/1012121
‘Aged 19, Wallace attended the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, before being commissioned as a platoon commander into the Scots Guards. During his eight-year army career he served in Germany, Windsor, Cyprus, Central America and Northern Ireland. In 1992 he was mentioned in despatches. His last post was as Company Commander of F Company Scots Guards.
From 2003 to 2005 he was overseas director of QinetiQ, the UK’s part-privatised National Defence Laboratory.
He is currently a member of the Queen’s Bodyguard for Scotland, the Royal Company of Archers.’
He employs his wife as a part-time Senior Research Assistant on a salary up to £29,000. May 2018. How nice.
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Javid’s speech which he had to read from a script. Just about managed to get through it.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2018-07-05/debates/5B6D0F90-CCF5-45E0-9A9F-905A013ACC31/AmesburyIncident
Two members of their party’s Friends of Israel lobby groups exchange some anti Russian/anti Putin propaganda following the speech.
‘Mike Gapes (Ilford South) (Lab/Co-op)
The St Petersburg troll factories and the RT propaganda channel are already gearing up to spread misinformation. Could we not at least do a little bit more to expose this? In particular, would Members of all parties in this House not appear on Putin’s propaganda television channel?
Sajid Javid
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right to raise this issue. There have been far too many incidents when Members have sadly supported the Russia propaganda regime, and RT is one way in which they have done so. If any Member has an ounce of common sense, they will realise—especially after this second incident—that the British public will not support any of them if they support President Putin.’
Thank goodness the SNP aren’t buying the lies. Hopefully, Caroline Lucas will wake up but the countrys greatest antiwar politician seems a bit torn at the moment.
‘ Thank goodness the SNP aren’t buying the lies ‘
You’re joking right?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43405126
Yes, Iain, very strange that Sturgeon would believe Westminster and condemn Russia, while knowing Westminster cannot be trusted on any other matter. Either she’s out of her depth or Westminster has more control over Sturgeon than I’d like to believe.
Either way, I long for Scotland to be free of Westminster’s grubby, unscrupulous and self interested claws.
That was first time around. They aren’t buying it this time.
That was,arch this year when everyone was first fed the lies. They aren’t going for it this time.
Russia should eject ten UK diplomats for every time a British minister makes evidence-free accusations about Russia’s culpability. Ten for Javid. Another ten for Wallace. Ten more for any other gobby minister.
Craig , this is all occurring the weekend after it appears trumps lawyer, appears to be away to spill the beans to Robert Muller
, I think that as the internet has done its job the past 15 years or so getting the population dumb enough to a level they will believe anything
Our Tory government are most def in cahoots with the usa with this agenda
Guardian headline:
Wiltshire incident Q&A: is there any link to the Skripal case?
I am speechless…
Just watching our ignorant Home Secretary on Channel 4 news demanding Russia explain what it’s done. And he has the effing cheek, along with other Tory ministers, to be wearing a NHS at 70 badge. The sooner this shower of odure are kicked out the better!
https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-7/lrs-baraka-2.htm
Dawn is taken to hospital on Saturday morning with the suspicion of contaminated drugs. If she hadn’t taken anything surely whoever called 999 would have said it wasn’t drug related? Would have saved valuable time.
If it was still considered contaminated drugs, why weren’t the police involved in trying to track down the contaminated batch? Why weren’t they looking to interview Charlie who was known to them? He wandered around town with his friend until taken ill in the evening. Why didn’t the friend say it was not drug related? Why was it still being treated as a drug issue until Tuesday?
As usual with all this many more questions than answers.
Neither first responders nor ER drs rely on lay diagnostic theories, much less one from an ex-con heroin addict who called the first ambulance. (If Charles admitted to their illegal drug use, that would only invite in the police, violate parole, bring on negligent homicide charges and so of course he would deny.) The paramedic and A&E focus is strictly on maintaining vital signs; Dawn was put on a breathing apparatus already on the stretcher. The initial assessment is just that, not a diagnosis.
At the hospital, acetylcholinesterase loss would be immediately suspected and quickly confirmed by a blood test. There are many common drugs, adulterants, household chemicals targeting this enzyme (in addition to nerve gases) and all get the same response: atropine. Since the staff was very familiar with novichok presentation, a blood sample aliqout went over to Porton Down who (too quickly in my view, with zero disclosure of methods) said it was the same specific chemical as with the Skirpals. However provocative, this doesn’t actually change anything on the patient care side.
Charles had found her passed out before the bath tub, having seizures. (Foaming at the mouth goes with that and is not an independent symptom.) Dawn was a long-term homeless alcoholic and cigarette-butt smoker; three separate people familiar with Dawn’s other substance use have stated she never did drugs and never injected.
I listened to 4-5 separate interview snippets with Charles’ articulate young friend Sam Hobson. He described the relevant druggie lawn party over at Lizzie Gardens that involve the three of them and some others. Alcohol was purchased and a throwaway used blanket. Charles and Dawn left the group briefly to “have a chat” (shoot up) in the bushes.
While Charles was occupied with this, Dawn perhaps found an abandoned phial or hip flask and took a swig, saving just the slightest sip for Charles. This contained a very weak remnant of the material used to attack the Skripals on the nearby bench that was ditched by the perpetrators four months ago.. Dawn got a tiny oral dose that only kicked in the next day; Charles got a truly miniscule dose, with even later onset and milder symptoms.
This could br a real breakthrough though as the UK has been totally baffled what happened with the Skripals. If they can locale the phial at Lizzie Gardens, there could be a vast amount of associated information with it, such as impurities and synthetic intermediates (provenance), as well as perp fingerprints and dna.
If Dawn never injected, what do you mean by she left the group briefly to shoot up? it is one thing to smoke discarded cigarettes butts, another to drink completely random phials, found in the bushes.
“it is one thing to smoke discarded cigarettes butts, another to drink completely random phials, found in the bushes.”
Most definitely, one would sniff the vial first, only if the sweet smell of alcohol was detected would a swig ensure. I imagine novichok tastes horrible and randomly discarded fags wouldn’t contain novichok.
Interestingly nerve agents first symptoms depend on how they were administered. Inhalation typically onsets rapidly and causes breathing difficulties. Ingestion causes gastrointestinal symptoms first, while skin contact typically causes sweating and muscle twitches before other symptoms.
Norfolk
the answer is there in plain view: Dawn was admitted on Saturday morning, but much of the reporting has focused on the free Hog Roast at the local Baptist Church on Saturday afternoon. Why? – to put the fear of God into as many local people as possible, the supposition being that Charlie might either have caught it during the event, or, worse still, contaminated the pious denizens of Amesbury with his foul contagion!
The Baptist Minister is on record as saying that he thought Charlie was “drunk”, which could easily be a euphemism for “as high as a kite”
If this was “a military-grade nerve-agent of a type developed in Russia”, then I’m a Kremlin bot. If, on the other hand, Charlie is a supplier and Dawn is not his “partner”, but a fairly down & out “retail customer”, then I suggest pointing the finger at Proctor & Gamble for patenting Vim in the first place. I reckon that somehow poor old homeless Dawn scored some slightly awkward gear, she and Charlie had a party on the Friday night and the rest, as the saying goes, is a complete an utter pack of lies
Closing point: BBC Radio 4 News is now openly referring to this as “a Russian Nerve Agent” – not even “of a type….” etc
I can’t remember where I found this link to Wiltshire Police warning local residents about a batch of unsafe drugs in Amesbury. If it was from this site my apologies.
https://www.wiltshire.police.uk/article/2902/Warning-over-contaminated-drugs-after-two-fall-ill-in-Amesbury
Presumably the BBC no longer have any journalistic standards to adhere to? They just have teleprompters to read from and propaganda suppliers.
I am not sure why glorified readers should be paid much more than £25k a year to be honest. As for Mark Urban, the less said, the better.
And scientists have become as adept at scripting versions of ‘of a type produced by Russia’ as Boris’ handlers. They learned from those receiving funding to propagandise global warming, who are often off the Richter scale where slippery eels are concerned.
Some Aussie chick on channel 4 calling Russia a rogue state and saying this was most likely a new batch and that the scientists would soon be able to tell by how much the new novichok had degraded (probably not much). Even gave a motive for the new attack “to muddy the waters”, because currently the UK has plenty of International support for their version of events. Is this the beginning of a narrative? Immediate question… If this was a new batch it seems more likely that this couple were deliberately targeted.
See mine below truthwillout
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/the-amesbury-mystery/comment-page-6/#comment-758895
It was all so pat wasn’t it accompanied by her glassy smile.
The only question that needs to be asked is Cui Bono?
i suppose this could be all about a plan to
a) disrupt the Trump-Putin meeting or
b) put the “kibosh on” the the World Cup (more likely)
if b) then, although not many people seem to be aware of this, but the biggest nightmare
(from the establishments point of view) would be for England to actually progress to the World Cup final (v.likely). or, even worse, to actually win it (still possible).
this would be something which would have to be stopped by any means possible.
Come on England!!!
I’d be checking out the new kitchen staff at England’s base fairly carefully.
The page Charlie liked seems to be a payday loans company even though categorised as a mortgage broker on Facebook – quite a different demographic…
I thought he was tenant in the house. Who is the owner, one wonders? The police apparently (not confirmed) told locals on the Friday night that there had been a gas leak.
It seems quite clear to me that the vile chemical left on Skripal’s door handle by the dastardly Russians is not what what Porton Down declares it to be, but potentially something far worse. What the Russians have sprayed over England is the chemical weapon equivalent of a Triffid. Remember, we have it on good authority, from the BBC no less, that the Triffids were created by the Russian biologist Trofim Lysenko.
Porton Down assured us that the sample they took from the Skipal’s house would kill someone in seconds. Perhaps, because of their Russian blood, the Skripal’s had some natural resistance to Novichok. After their exposure they were able to go shopping and have a pizza, and beer, for lunch with no sign of illness. Only after several hours did it take effect. Remember how certain communities were also able to gain immunity to the Triffid venom, and subsequently overcome them?
The policeman who became ill, sometime after the Skripals, must have stepped into a puddle of the nerve agent. His illness was much less intense than the Skripals, so, since he is not Russian, that is evidence that while Novichok, like the Triffids, might have developed increased mobility, its toxicity has been somewhat reduced.
The most recent poisoning of the couple Charlie and Dawn is evidence that the Novichok continues to gain mobility. This is worrisome, but there remains an even greater concern. From even the early days of the Novichok invasion, it displayed an ability to bring on government paranoia and hyperbole. Maybe the brains of the establishment are particularly susceptible to its fumes.
Early official claims that 40 people had been admitted to hospital had to be completely dispelled by the hospital management and leading ministers, the UK’s foreign minister, who even has Russian blood in him, couldn’t decide if it might or might not have originated in Russia. Now Novichok fumes seem to have spread from the Theresa May government into our mainstream media. Remember how the Triffids were able to keep evolving? Even developing echolocation. Where will Novichok show up next, and what new form will it take?
Of course all this might have more to do with our government feeling they have to bolster the important role Russia plays as an enemy of the West, given the obvious PR success story of Russia’s hosting of the World Cup.
Let’s see what happens next.
What happens next is widespread paranoia caused by a creeping form of gas produced by novachogenic organisms cultivated by oligarth sleeper agents that bears upon the social consciousness destroying the need for human leisure time and we regress into a zombie nation of obsessive survival behavior, unable to foster knowledge and cultivate thought.
The only immediate band-aid is for the English to journey across the Solent to the Isle of Wight or Isle of Skye for Scotland as these organisms struggle to survive in salt water.
Do not forget a usa agency was seeking blood or genetic samples from Russian peoples……allegation that these would be used to create substances that would have specific or more enhanced effects on such people enabling an antidote or preventative dose to non russians to be fully effective………
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r29k_T_o9To
Walter, this song and video is what we call ‘hurray-patriotism’ or ‘kvas patriotism’, laughable sheer propaganda.
If you want to know what really touches patriotic veins in russian people – https://youtu.be/fuPX8mjeb-E
The song is written by Victor Tsoy, one of the most loved russian bards. Video is from “Sevastopol battle” movie.
Great song Tatyana, great song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r29k_T_o9To
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RJqimlFcJsM
Still think this is the best WC song!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1N95aeSLtA4
Channel 4 News tonight. Alex Thompson in Samara and a reporter in Wiltshire raise questions. Then cut to the studio with Jon Snow.
Who does he have as his guest? Why. Dr Sally Leivesley. She proceeds to hold forth on the Novichok stuff. ‘ It might have been in a syringe or in tablet form. It might have decayed if it was the original batch this accounting for a less serious effect. and so on. Groan.
‘Dr. Sally Elizabeth Carr Leivesley (born 1 November 1949) is managing director of the corporate ‘risk management’ consultancy Newrisk Ltd, which “trains and exercises companies and governments on protecting people and business from extreme incidents”. She is a former Home Office advisor and has acted as a media pundit on terrorism and other security threats. Leivesley has advocated “strategic communications programmes to promote attachment of individuals to national goals, nationally valued careers and to national security.”
Leivesley has written for the Foreign Policy Centre (FPC), contributing to The Unlikely Counter-Terrorists, which was published in 2002. The Unlikely Counter-Terrorists was sponsored by BAe Systems, Control Risks Group and the Risk and Security Management Forum. Other contributors included John Bray of Control Risks Group, the former Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police David Veness, and the BBC’s Director of News Richard Sambrook.’
http://www.newrisk.com/ Risk Management!
All that rot for a one woman band.
https://companycheck.co.uk/company/04879970/NEWRISK-LIMITED/companies-house-data
‘ Newrisk Limited is part of The Exercise Group7 LLP, (TEG7) team. The team delivers 14 bespoke courses in London and many countries to train workplace teams and Boards on methods to minimise risk and optimise opportunities for innovation and growth in times of security uncertainty and disruption. Certificates of Credit are given for each training module to recognise career-relevant skills.’
The Exercise Group. Surprised she hasn’t yet enrolled Mr Hamish de B into her little circle feeding off the fear of terrrrr.
http://www.teg7.co.uk/services.html
Yes, I see she has (unsurprisingly) an substantial economic interest in peddling this stuff – seeing as how that’s what her businesses are all about.
She has a PhD – but it’s not clear what in which subject area – could be something in engineering – but again not clear since her first degree is a BA – and she is a member of the Royal Society of Arts – so she might just be a ‘warfare’ ‘expert’ in the RUSI mould – all of which could go some way to explain the huge amounts of crap she delivered on the subject of ‘novichok’ ‘chemistry’ on Ch4 News tonight.
Whatever she is -on the evidence of her speil – she ain’t no kind of chemist.
Once again the MSM seems incapable of distinguishing true scientific expertise from a pile of mouldering horse shit.
If you are going to ask about chemical poisoning, talk to a chemist/biochemist/ toxicoligist – not some self-promoting dilettante with a financial interest in dropping horseshit from an oral anus.
Sally Levi – esley.
Beware the leaven of the Pharisees. It gives you gas and it’s mostly hot air.
In case anybody forgot Wessex is all South Western England up to Birmingham where Mercia begins. The Anglo-Saxons who inhabit Wessex are extremely proud of their enjoyment of chalk downland after being squeezed out of coastal sand dunes of Holland. This is what it means to be British, to have driven out the Celts to mountainous territory and to not be Norsemen or Normans.
This story is just a mantra like ” strong and stable government “. There is no novichok. This is a yarn about the wealth and prosperity that we have to defend by drawing up the drawbridges of Brexit. Yes. as an Englishman and a Southerner I buy into that old yarn, just as you buy into Northern-ness and Hovis, and Glasgow and trade unions.
It might be tripe but resonates the message of Wessex man Boris Johnson, and Wessex man Chankly-Bore, Rees Morgue. It resonates of Empire and the British Raj, and arouses the dead in the graves of small Wessex village churches that fought for Empire.
They are trying to resonate the harmonics of Wessex, of Hardy and Oxford, Elgar and Vaughan Williams, to persuade you to support their stupid idea of HARD BREXIT.
If you’re soft enough to fall for soft soap and subliminal advertising, May will stay in power. If you still have reason and principles, you will eject the fraudulent cow and her gang of self-interested Tories.
I see you are all asleep, so I leave you to your slumber, lulled by crunching of shingle against the keels of boats . The Anglo-Saxons love their 1000 year-old abode in Southern England. But they don’t like other wogs who want to take over from Brussells, Munich or Paris.
Sleep , little Englanders, your tune is being piped by the Pied Piper, the tune of Tory strong and stable , the tune of yore.
Or this couple are the original source? Screwed up and infected them selves.
Can I ask you something about the official analysis?
Who originally tested the Skirpals and proved through scientific means that it was actually Novichok?
Because RT Today are stating that it is Novichok and I’m saying to them it hasn’t been proved beyond a reasonable doubt that it was indeed Novichok .
I am enjoying your book Sikunder Burnes. Just bought ‘ Reporter, Seymour M. Hersh. After watching his interview on RT I was intrigued. Laing french.
It is a good question, as I have noticed myself RT is unwittingly(?) buying into the most questionable details of the story.
Just sloppy journalism?
It was of course, Porton Down who tested the original specimems and confirmed what it was. It was and is Porton down who are supplying the samples – what could possibly go wrong?
Why were the paramedics who responded to the Charlie Rowley emergency call wearing hazmat suits? This was only 4 or 5 hours after Sturgess was admitted to hospital. Did they already know by then that this was a chemical attack? Or is it standard procedure in some cases involving possible drug abuse to wear hazmat suits when responding to a call? I really would love an informed answer to that question. Otherwise the implication is that by three o’clock on Saturday afternoon they had substantial suspitions about what was really causing the illnesses, and that the source of the contamination was unknown but likely in a public place; then they deliberately lied to and misled the public despite the potentially fatal outcome of an uninformed person coming into contact with a contaminated object. What reason could they have had for that?
I like your fay avatar. Have you heard the Elven horn sounding from the burial mounds of Salisbury Plain, calling us to war against the EU and Brussels and against Russia and China?
Seriously it’s all tripe. Government bulldozed a motorway through the chalken downs of middle englande. Mrs May is a medieval harlequin with miniature bells on her costume. She’s an outright Zionist and has been defeated by Russia, China and the European Union. We are in a metaphysical episode of the Lord of the Rings. Pure fantasy fiction. The god of the market packed up in 2007 when it was shown to be a Bilderberg scam for stealing real money and replacing it with thin air. Neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism were the holy spirit and beloved son of the failed deity. The only thing left to defend middle earth, i.e Britain, is the Hobbits of ye olde Salisburie and Aimesburie .
In other words a load of bawis.
Most of us have always doubted Russia was behind the Salisbury poisonings, and it seems almost inconceivable they would have been involved in the attack in Amesbury while hosting the World Cup. I think the circumstances of England having a successful tournament also significantly reduces the chances the British state was involved in the poisonings – sporting success itself being too great a propaganda tool to risk diminishing. So these incidents are increasingly looking like the work of some third party – and I would say the circumstantial evidence points to a faction in the USA.
I am saddened to the bone that my fellow country men and women fall for this poorly plotted national soap opera and mistake it for reality. Otherwise rational people seem to genuinely fear “the Russians” now.
When I was a kid in the cold war 80s, Sting asked us to ponder on the eternal mysteries of whether or not the Russians might just possibly “love their children too”. I was a young child and naive enough to think this was a real question. All the same, I would have thought that 3 decades later we’d got beyond questioning whether people of so-called “enemy” nations could be actual, living, sentient human beings complete with loved ones, but it seems not.
Seems our illustrious leaders see fit to reheat the cold war left overs yet again and serve it up to the nation as the new national dish: a seafood platter with a side of Russophobia and Salisbury Newcomer garnish to taste.
The Mexicans refry their beans to improve digestibility –
The Brits retry their novichok to test (again) its incredibility.
If any British speaking for government is found with lips moving and words coming out, one knows no truth can be found from that source, and forget the vast wasteland of establishment reporting, that has not existed for nearly a generation and one half ago. Only delusions and deceptions have adapted to those barren grounds.
@ Formerly T-Bear July 5, 2018 at 21:32
I frequently ate arroz con frijoles in Nicaragua in ’84. There were lots of one-man/woman setups in the street kerbs of towns. Good filling cheap meal.