My world view changed forever when, after 20 years in the Foreign Office, I saw colleagues I knew and liked go along with Britain’s complicity in the most terrible tortures, as detailed stunningly in the recent Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee Report. They also went along with keeping the policy secret, deliberately disregarding all normal record taking procedures, to the extent that the Committee noted:
131. We note that we have not seen the minutes of these meetings either: this causes us great concern. Policy discussions on such an important issue should have been minuted. We support Mr Murray’s own conclusion that were it not for his actions these matters may never have come to light.
The people doing these things were not ordinarily bad people; they were just trying to keep their jobs, comforting themselves with the thought that they were only civil servants obeying orders. Many were also actuated by the nasty “patriotism” that grips in time of war, as we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Almost nobody in the FCO stood up against the torture or against the illegal war – Elizabeth Wilmshurst, Carne Ross and I were the only ones to leave over it.
I then had the still more mortifying experience of the Foreign Office seeking to punish my dissent by bringing a series of accusations of gross misconduct – some of them criminal – against me. The people bringing the accusations knew full well they were false. The people investigating them knew they were false from about day 2. But I was put through a hellish six months of trial by media before being acquitted on all the original counts (found guilty of revealing the charges, whose existence was an official secret!). The people who did this to me were people I knew.
I had served as First Secretary in the British Embassy in Poland, and bumped up startlingly against the history of the Holocaust in that time, including through involvement with organising the commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. What had struck me most forcibly was the sheer scale of the Holocaust operation, the tens of thousands of people who had been complicit in administering it. I could never understand how that could happen – until I saw ordinary, decent people in the FCO facilitate extraordinary rendition and torture. Then I understood, for the first time, the banality of evil or, perhaps more precisely, the ubiquity of evil. Of course, I am not comparing the scale of what happened to the Holocaust – but evil can operate on different scales.
I believe I see it again today. I do not believe that the majority of journalists in the BBC, who pump out a continual stream of “Corbyn is an anti-semite” propaganda, believe in their hearts that Corbyn is a racist at all. They are just doing their job, which is to help the BBC avert the prospect of a radical government in the UK threatening the massive wealth share of the global elite. They would argue that they are just reporting what others say; but it is of course the selection of what they report and how they report it which reflect their agenda.
The truth, of which I am certain, is this. If there genuinely was the claimed existential threat to Jews in Britain, of the type which engulfed Europe’s Jews in the 1930’s, Jeremy Corbyn, Billy Bragg, Roger Waters and I may humbly add myself would be among the few who would die alongside them on the barricades, resisting. Yet these are today loudly called “anti-semites” for supporting the right to oppose the oppression of the Palestinians. The journalists currently promoting those accusations, if it came to the crunch, would be polishing state propaganda and the civil servants writing railway dockets. That is how it works. I have seen it. Close up.
Here are Swee Ang’s words on her experiences after the IOF/IDF invaded the Freedom Flotilla boat and captured it and the passengers.
Dr Swee Ang recounts events when Al-Awda was seized by Israeli military
August 4, 2018
Medical doctor on board the al-Awda,
http://gaza.scoop.ps/2018/08/dr-swee-ang-recounts-events-when-al-awda-was-seized-by-israeli-military/
Al-Awda means The Return.
Stuart Littlewood has posted the same statement on Redress. He gives a short biography of Swee Ang. See how much good she has done in the world cf some others we could name. She has healed not harmed.
This will sicken you: Eyewitness describes hateful act of piracy by Israel against Norwegian boat on mercy mission
4th August 2018
https://www.redressonline.com/2018/08/this-will-sicken-you-eyewitness-describes-hateful-act-of-piracy-by-israel-against-norwegian-boat-on-mercy-mission/
@ Sharp Ears August 5, 2018 at 09:25
From 2016: ‘US pledges record $38bn military aid to I^^ael over next 10 years’: Guardian (replace ‘^^’ with ‘sr’):
‘The US will will give the I^^aeli military $38bn over the next decade in what Washington described as the biggest package of military assistance in its history….’
But Natanyahell wanted $45 billion! I’m sure the ‘Boobicus Orangicus’ will top up Obama’s largesse with taxpayers dosh, whilst many Americans live on food stamps, without unemployment benefit or free health care.
‘Piracy on the high seas? It’s war!’ ‘But sir, it’s not Iran, it’s our friendly ME Exceptional’. ‘Well, can’t we send in the Sixth Fleet to help them enforce the siege on Gaza?’ ‘But sir, the Navy may remember the reception the ‘ME Exceptionals’ gave to the USS Liberty near that area…’. ‘USS Liberty? Wasn’t that one of our Starships?’.
@ Sharp Ears August 5, 2018 at 09:25
Also from Redress: ‘Youngsters “disabled for life” by I^^ael’s shoot-to-cripple policy in Gaza…’.
It seems the best way to shut the ‘Anti-Se^itic’ blitz against Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party is to start to hammer away publicising the abominations carried out by the ‘ME Exceptionals’.
I’m not sure that the Venezuelan National Guard inspires much confidence.
@ Anon1 August 5, 2018 at 09:39
They certainly inspired confidence when the coup against Hugo Chavez was foiled, as did the masses of ordinary Venezuelans.
How much confidence did the US Secret Service inspire when it stood down in Dallas?
So there has been, as described, an assassination attempt on the life of Venezuelan president Maduro, by a rebel faction.
Maduro has openly blamed internal insurgents and Colombia for the attack.
Of course the US and its South and Central American allies, (more in fear than friendship I presume) have been working feverishly to destablise Venezuela and its economy for some time now, and this attack could be the next step to removing Maduro.
However Maduro might have preempted an attack by staging one. The assassination attempt, was weak, and no real threat to Maduro’s life appears to have materialised, if the news videos ae to be believed.
Or as some news outlets have reported, (depending on their politics) the explosion was just an untimely gas tank, that blew up. Some have also said arrests have been made.
This could be an opportunity for Maduro to purge the insurgents who are most surely financially armed and funded by the US indirectly of course. Still one wonders if Maduro looked at Erdogan of Turkey, who could’ve staged his own coup to consolidate power in Turkey, and thought to himself, that might be worth a try.
I note that the authorities are planning to bypass Dover and re-route all our post-Brexit imports and exports via East coast ports such as Felixstowe and then on to Holland and other favourably disposed EU members who can be relied upon to dispense with Third Country customs controls and wave it all through.
France, on the other hands, readies for de facto blockade, in payback for the Jungle, the bombing of Caen, Azincourt, Waterloo and much else besides.
May’s bikini diplomacy has failed and the line up for the War of the Brexit Secession has begun.
If the lights don’t go out all over Europe they certainly will here.
@ quasi_verbatim August 5, 2018 at 11:02
That’s 220 miles against Dover-Calais’ 21, and takes over six hours. Still, it’s an option.
Not France but Macron. The Netherlands is also run by similar Establishment clone, Mark Rutte. Still UK trade is is bigger deal for the Dutch than for the French, money wise too. As May is a clone too we might get a Clone War without US George Lucas.
A simple question;
What would the political discussion of the day be, over the summer recess, if not for this orchestrated fake news story being churned out day after day after day after day by the Zionist supremacists?
Mays humiliating Brexit progress? The NHS? Crime? Education? The economy? Israls crimes against humanity (22 children executed by the IDF since march, racist new state laws)? What? One thing is clear; the British electorate are being shat on from a very great height while this fake MSM circus continues on a daily basis.
Apparently the Maybot and her party cannot be held to account for their appalling governance of the state. Will they grind you down?
Political discussions of the day – It could be
a) how flagship (Conservative) local authorities seem to be heading for bankruptcy, Northants’, Exeter potentially unable to protect vulnerable children, and the rest of their flock?
https://www3.northamptonshire.gov.uk/news/council-news/Pages/northamptonshire-county-council-issues-second-section-114-notice.aspx
b) or 5-years since Ed Snowden smuggled his {music} CD-ROMs out of the lying cheating NSA. John Kiriakou reports here:
https://www.opednews.com/articles/After-Snowden-by-John-Kiriakou-Edward-Snowden_Intelligence_NSA_Privacy-180805-366.html
“Five years have passed since Edward Snowden told Americans that our government was spying on us. Before he said anything, most of us believed that it was illegal for the NSA (or the CIA or any of the other myriad intelligence agencies) to spy on Americans. Indeed, the NSA’s charter expressly forbids it. But Snowden came forward with the proof. And it was damning. . .
When I sat down to write this article, I really wanted to talk about the success of Snowden’s revelations. For some reason, I thought there were more. There certainly have been some great leaps forward. Americans are far better informed now than they were in 2013. But the government is still spying on us with impunity. The courts are no help. Our only hope is to elect like-minded supporters of privacy and civil liberties. Or we can hope for another Snowden to shake things up again”
c)
That is because many labour MPs think it is more important to undermine Corbyn than to do what they are paid for, be an effective opposition to the most awful government since Thatchers.
Indeed. We must remember that the fifth column within the PLP kicked this whole thing off. We should remember too that most of them are women who, initially, were claiming they were being “bullied” yet, together, they have behaved like the most vicious, vindictive, devious mob ever. They got support from some of the “men” of course. So called deputy leader Watson, rather than seeing the damage being done just because some didn’t like the result of the leadership election, played his own bizarre games while the media piled all the blame on Corbyn and then the anti-S lies were spun and respun like a web of obscene untruths designed to leave Corbyn tied up and unable to function. That Watson, and now even McDonnell, have forgotten we all witnessed this unfold only makes Watson’s words today even more toxic and treacherous. This imaginary “crisis” involving imaginary anti-S within the Labour Party has shocked many out here only because it has shown in glorious technicolour the truly ugly monster which inhabits so many in the PLP. Watson has fed the monster and still is feeding it. That he does so at a time when May & Co are on the ropes and yet has actively worked to take the focus from them and helped to shovel more burning coals on his own leader and Party makes him not just a gutter politician but one who has gone way beneath the gutter and into the sewers.
@SA
That is correct, what can we do?
@ Andy
I don’t know what can be done. Their conduct has been appalling but earlier attempts to deal with them via their branches were painted by the media as bullying by Momentum. (Remember Angela Eagle claiming her branch contained sexist and homophobic men plus Momentum loonies who would deselect her?)
I don’t know how many current Labour MPs have played no part in any of this but surely there must be some? I’d say they need to find their spines and call a halt to what’s going on.
Can those like Hodge and her cohorts really believe that if they succeed in dumping Corbyn everything will be fine for Labour again? Do they think people will forgive what they’ve engaged in for nearly three years and the damage done to the Party instead of behaving like a responsible opposition?
So, really all those who have taken a back seat all this time need to speak up and loudly.
I’m thinking lately about when the Brown/Blair factions were snarling at each other. I’m not a huge fan of Prescott but as deputy leader he always sought to broker peace. In the present situation we have a treacherous sod like Watson in the deputy post and he’s been against Corbyn along with the fifth column who were gunning for him. His job was to protect the Party he claims to care about yet he just let all this happen. So if any of those neutrals in the PLP find a spine…they might want to start with Watson.
@Jo1,
I always thought John Prescott came out of a different mould than the other MP’s, particularly the Blairites. He was from a working class background and was very down to earth, straight talking and straight acting. The establishment hated him, in a way that they hate the working class and ordinary folks. Another MP I generally respect is Dennis Skinner, voted against the Iraq war and against intervention in Libya, and he would like to see the abolition of the House of Lords.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/antony-lerman/why-turning-to-jewish-exceptionalism-to-fight-antisemitism-is-failing-project
This is a very good analysis of the current AS storm against the Labour Party and Corbyn. It analysis the NEC document and the IHRA document and looks at the background of the latter. I would recommend it for those who wish to understand in more details the purpose behind all this.
The website Ipen Democracy from where this comes also has other interesting blogs in the topic.
What we can do is to support our local parties and the party in general. There have been attempts to try and remove the pro-Corbyn recruits from the party but these have failed.
My feeling is that we now have 3 groups of people in the party, those who want the party to win and who fully endorse the Corbyn programme, those who want the party to win but don’t fully endorse Corbyn and those who want the party to loose so as to replace Corbyn. Sadly a large number of MPs belong to the third category and it would be a long and difficult process to replace them.
And that makes Corbyn’s gutless apologies and pathetic video even more disappointing. Unless and until he gets rid of Tom Watson, John Mann, Ian Austin, etc etc, including even McDonnell (who shows himself to be disloyal when it matters) he will get and deserve no support from the core of Labour members who rejoined Labour when it seemed it was finally, after 50 years, following a Socialist agenda.
Yes, that McDonnell has joined in is astonishing. I wonder what has brought this about. When you recall that the female MP Malhotra accused McDonnell’s office of “breaking into” her office after she resigned from the shadow cabinet, in her own contribution to the plot to discredit the leadership, it’s difficult to forgive him. (An investigation by the Speaker’s Office found no such break in had occurred and that, having left her post, McDonnell had every right to access the office she’d also vacated. Malhotra had still gone to the BBC with details of the “break-in”.)
Politics, we know, is a dirty business but this long and evermore vicious campaign by a group of MPs against their own leader is surely the most treacherous display ever witnessed. When you consider what Galloway was expelled for it beggars belief that so many go unpunished.
The big problem is that it is perceived by even non-Blairites that the party has been slow in sorting this out, at least as a PR exercise. This was not intentional but probably due to a rather creaky party mechanism that is not yet up to speed with the fact that they had so many new recruits. Plus the fact that the Labour party has been on a constant footing to fight a snap general election from almost day one of Corbyn’s re-election and the danger is still very much there.
As to Labour’s stance on Brexit. There is of course the Blairites who would very much like the party to declare the desire for a second referendum but this is perceived by the leadership as a no go area because it is electorally extremely sensitive to argue. I think the fallback would be that when it is clear that the Tory plans for Brexit unravels by October, that there may be a massive parliamentary uproar and that things may become clearer as another GE might be called in which Labour can formulate a clearer policy.
Sorting it out as a PR exercise is impossible since it would imply getting the MSM on side.
I did not mean that, I meant reaching a quick verdict whatever way on say something like the Livingstone affair rather than let it fester.
So in typical British government it’s not our fault style, but that of the EU’s, Liam Fox has said that a no deal is increasingly more likely, and that the EU and in particular Michel Barnier is to blame for that.
It is however more than likely the fault of the British government that a no deal scenario is now a reality. Theresa May, and not forgetting tacit for most of the last two years on the matter Jeremy Corbyn, haven’t done enough to hammer out a deal.
Lets not forget that it won’t be the MP’s or their party donors or the queen and her disfunctional brood that will suffer greatly from a no deal Brexit. No it will be the public and their families that will bear the brunt of the sheer and utter incompetence of Westminster to eke out a deal with the EU.
I do feel sorryfor the rUK, as Scotland has a potential lifeboat in independence, one that must be grasped before HMS Brexitannia goes down.
No, you don’t.
You have ideology.
By blaming EU27 for there not being an agreement, Liam Fox and the British government and media are treating the population of all parts of Britain as if we were complete morons.
Just to take one aspect: Northern Ireland cannot be in a customs union with two regions that aren’t in a customs union with each other. It is impossible, for the same reason that a number cannot be equal to two numbers that aren’t equal to each other. The poshboys have displayed a combination of extreme stupidity with a rabid belief that it’s the population who are extremely stupid. They have really approached their essence, become even more “like themselves” than they were before. This is the bedrock of their culture. Got to wonder, as we approach the endgame, as Malthusianism is about to “come home”, whether there will be any cracks.
The Observer editorial today concludes:
‘Yet lacking a viable alternative, May is hurtling towards both a no-deal calamity and an ignominious end to her premiership. So forget Jacob Rees-Mogg, Iain Duncan Smith and other false tribunes of past island glories. There is now only one sensible, responsible course of action. As we have urged here before, May must stop the Brexit clock, call a time out and humbly ask the EU27 for a significant delay beyond March. This has been a harsh learning process for all concerned and it is as yet incomplete. The entire country needs a moment to pause, reflect and think afresh.’
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/05/observer-view-theresa-may-stop-brexit-clock-extend-deadline
I can’t take much more of it.
The editor of the Observer is Paul Webster, who replaced John Mulholland. Afraid I have never heard of him.
https://www.theguardian.com/gnm-press-office/2018/jan/18/paul-webster-appointed-new-editor-of-the-observer
A snip @ £2.90. Not.
Meanwhile, on the other side of La Manche, Le Monde €2,60, page 3’s article warns us of October problems? They concede that the EU is holding firm against the random British attempts to scale the fort of success. September 20th will see the special European summit in Salzburg, May might be able to play her 3 strongest cards, intelligence,police & military cooperation. Le Monde see this as the next key moment for Mme May, they suppose that a minimum opening of the EU defensiveness might be needed for her to survive her party conference in October, there’s seemingly a slim possibility that the EU might rescue her from that likely war of her entrenched party positions.
So reading between the lines, BINO, possibly, if the EU helps her avoid an October surprise.
Le Monde was a good, if dense, read. Far more words than a typical Grauniad article.
Their leader/comment on page 23 summed up a choice for France “voulons-nous, ou pas, une relation étroite et amicale avec le Royaume-Uni?”
The answer was “Yes. Deep & strategic,” tho’ this leader was written by Kalypso Nicolaïdis, professor of international relations at the University of Oxford!
I did notice a first benefit from Brexit: https://boingboing.net/2018/08/05/countrywide.html
Off you go then. Women and children first. Don’t forget to wear a lifebelt.
How can anybody “hammer out a deal”? The EU has told us what we’re gettting and that’s what we’re getting.
Major General (res) Yair Golan’s remarks on the morality (or otherwise) of the IDF have attracted favorable comment on here from various commenters (cf previous page).
I wonder whether his remarks on Iran as a threat to Israel would meet with similar approval from those commenters? Check them out.
@Paul Barbara
RECTIFICATION
Hi Paul.
For a minute I was mistaking Maduro for Moreno, and hence Venezuela for Ecuador.
My apologies to Maduro,
And special apologies to you for the remark that followed.
I goofed.
@ bj August 5, 2018 at 11:42
Cheers, no probs. Moreno is a turn-coat traitor, getting in under the Socialist banner with the blessing of Correa, then immediately filling his government with the Right-Wing opposition. He has jailed Correa’s Vice President, and want’s to jail Correa, though he can’t as he is in Europe.
Wow – the British reporting on current weather conditions on the European continent! From the Daily Express: “Europe weather forecast: SHOCK chart shows Europe turning BLACK as temperatures reach 50C“.
I can’t recall black symbolising heat before, except where there is scorching, such as occasionally on Centre Court at Wimbledon. Usually the colour is red, yellow, orange, perhaps white. But the Daily Express are shouting the word out: the map of the continent has gone “BLACK”.
And just look at those maps! They show a big scary wave of nasty stuff coming up from the direction of Africa to take over most of the European continent, kind of snapping at Britain but not quite making it across the Channel.
Prediction: the British media will report food supply problems on the continent.
(“Why?”, you may ask. Answer: because it tallies with the loony propaganda line that “EU27 needs Britain more than Britain needs EU27”. When the food runs out in Britain, the line won’t be the simplistic “it was the EU’s fault”, because people would be bound to respond “well look who f***ed up the negotiations” even if they don’t mention the City of London. So there will be a naturalistic, elemental, “God’s vengeance” flavour to the media presentation, mixed with the xenophobia. Besides, there will be food shortages on the continent too. The line will be that Britain has been hit hard, but the country is very well run, because the poshboys are doing such a good job in the circumstances, and even the royal family have had their spades out, whereas EU27 – and not just the countries that have been so unpleasantly named “PIIGS” – have been hit harder, partly because of the excitable, corrupt, incompetent character of ministers and officials in those countries.)
Edit: the prediction was correct. Reuters: “Heatwave ravages European fields, sending wheat prices soaring“.
That’s utter nonsense from the media . Portugal , Spain and Italy had extremely bad summer with rain and low temperatures . Only in the last 5 days are we experiencing extreme heat . Crops were ruined last year ( no rain for 9 months and extreme heat until October )by forest fires . This year the damage webate having derive from fires ( namely in monchique still going sadly ) .
arrived in Lisbon today and the heat is unbelievable though . Anybody on this side of the world at the moment , hide at your hotel until 5pm . It’s 44 in Lisbon and dusty from Sahara storm .
Crops are fine though. Off to melt a bit more uf!
“US senators are quietly paving the way for a military aid to Israel that exceeds $3.8 billion.”
“The number would amount to $23,000 per year for every family in Israel, according to a Friday report by Minnesota-based news website MintPress News, released amid a media blackout.”
“The funding involves an additional $550 million aid for Israeli missile systems and $1 billion for US weapons stockpiles in Israel.”
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/05/570217/US-aid-to-Israel-to-exceed-38B
I wonder how the hard hit US taxpayer really feels about keeping an apartheid nation afloat when American’s in their thousands are sleeping rough in Obamavilles amongst other pressing issues at home.
Well they must have sorted out Puerto Rico then.
As the US military budget for 2018 approaches $ 1 trillion (= Apple “value”?) this Israel mil aid is only 3.8%. The world domination Zionists must have lost control, OR US Deep state ITSELF is the real bogeyman.
I don’t like these nationalist movement that jump on the back of discontent. I don’t even like “the left” doing it. As there is little to distinguish those once they are part of power structures, You are forced into a divorced narrative. Like dealing with MSM.
e.g., National “self determination”(an oxymoron) When our ‘real’ selves (the people) are ALWAYS targeted or forgotten as a minority by this structure.
& in the mean time, what Scottish politicians speak up for julian Assange? …0.1% ? But you can bet they will use the relations to get to try and be a big somebody. But just like Brexit, they don’t have a clue all the ramifications, It simply doesn’t matter on a good state salary.
https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/1025683888012763136
But you can bet they will use the revelations*
I doubt anyone in Scotland cares what you think Ishmael, when it comes to independence. No doubt you’ll be fuming at the Catalan people or the Tibetans or a whole host of peoples that could gain independents from a greater state or union.
Lets not forget of the discord sewn by the British government that led to the mass deaths and partition of India.
I have not forgotten the mass deaths that occurred during the partition of India – and I am aware of the role of the British authorities in this chapter of history.
I am also aware of a vast range of atrocities that occurred in India long before the British had ever heard of India. Here are just a few examples
The extermination of 100,000 Hindus in 1265 during the massacre of South Delhi
The killing of 180,000 Hindus in Bengal in 1353
The 500,000 Hindus that were slaughtered between 1365-67 in Vjayanagara
The 100,000 Hindu slaves executed in 1398 in Delhi
What is it about the British that allows them to obsess over their own crimes and completely disregard the crimes of others.
Yes, lets not mention nasty nationalists such as Choudhry Rahmat Ali, nor the likes of Sri Lankan nationalists deciding to reject the British colonial name of their nation Ceylon in 1972.
We should all come together no matter the coming disaster, inflicted by an inept and bias government at Westminster and sing Kumbaya, and everything will be just fine.
“What is it about the British that allows them to obsess over their own crimes and completely disregard the crimes of others.”
I suppose if you trace the emergence of this obsession, there’ll be a clue there. Perhaps it enters the Overton Window. Or, is shoved in.
My memory is that it really takes off in the 60s.
And the Americans were at it as well, obviously. Vietnam, which was reported very very differently to Korea, and earlier US wars.
All the anti-colonialist stuff. Really heavily pushed in msm and film and schools and universities, thru the late 60s, 70s, 80s
A complete coincidence of course that the narrative served Globalist interests, against more national interests.
But at the time, we thought it was freedom.
The whole thing’s flipped around again, of course.
Now the Nationalists are giving the Globalists a bit of the same treatment.
A bit.
The mainstream media, universities etc are not on board for the Nationalists as they were in the 60s for the Globalists.
That’s either one of those Thomas Kuhn “shift in paradigm” legacy thingies, or it’s Globalism 2.0
Talk about trolling…
Funny that Loony should choose massacres committed against Hindus, and forgets those that Hindus committed. I bet it’s his old visceral Islam-hatred (what in nice circles is called Islamophobia) coming out again, in spite of the fact that even today there are endless pogroms by Hindus against Muslims taking place from day to day, encouraged by the present government. That’s apart from the exaggerated figures he quotes taken off some extremist web-site.
I’d rather be a Muslim in India than in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Irak, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Libya, Marocco, Niger, Nigeria, Sudan, South Sudan, Somalia etc. Much safer!
Loony
Thank you for this piece of information regarding massacres in medieval India between 1265 and 1398. I guess the ‘British obsession’ over thier own crimes’ may have something to do with the fact that those who carried these atrocities did it in the belief that it was the duty of the civilised white man to bring these savage to modernity by exterminating some of them in the name of progress 5 centuries since the Delhi massacre. Next you will be comparing Franco favourably with Genghis Khan.
‘Teenage Palestinian resistance icon recounts ordeal to Press TV’:
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/03/570045/Palestine-Israel-Tamimi-interview-Press-TV
Such prison conditions – and know this – these were far better than many Palestinian children are faced with.
The jailers were fully aware of the fact the conditions would get wide coverage, and so they were far less harsh than normal.
Check ‘Inminds’ site for more info on child jailing: http://www.inminds.co.uk/article.php?id=10565
I think people should think very carefully about consequences. Brexit should unite our shared interest. Just like leaving the EU? does the rest of the UK really think they can be unaffected? In the “Scottish” Or “Irish” fantasy lands perhaps. But that’s not real life.
Like the “let arabs kill each-other” narrative, after setting that fire and adding fuel, it’s going to effect us. Just not the rich or those in secure government positions much.
Can more isolated nation states do much really? Or governments in general? The people in these places, we are all effected by the same basic issues. If government were thinking at all about us we’d at least have a reconstitution reflecting that. But it’s all against all up there.
Did anyone see that recent factory walk out? Two guys where let go and the whole factory left, shut the place down, That’s action, that’s solidarity. That’s socialism, we rise together.
“Antoine Dangerfield, the guy who took this amazing viral footage and gave even more amazing commentary, was offered $250 by the contractor to take it down. He refused. They fired him. He said- it was worth it. …..Here’s a link” – https://twitter.com/LibyaLiberty/status/1025742054721245185
@ Ishmael August 5, 2018 at 12:52
Great stuff!
This really is guff nonsense, the British government through the unmitigated disaster that is Brexit has caused the problem to begin with.
The other nations that make up the UK are just reacting to the Brexit disaster, in an attempt to protect their citizens from the Tory governments folly of a more than likely no deal.
You’re inane argument appears to be one of just because the British nationalists are dragging us over a cliff, we shouldn’t through our own nationalist movements protect the interests of our own people.
Ishmael
I recognise your right to express a view. It is, however, extremely offensive to put the legitimate nationalities of Scottish and Irish people within quotation marks and describe them as “fantasy”.
Patriot Prayer. The US answer to EDL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Prayer
‘A rally called the “Gibson for Senate Freedom March”, including members of both Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys, was held in Portland on August 4, 2018, along Tom McCall Waterfront Park. It attracted counter-protestors, both from a coalition of labor unions, immigrant rights advocates, and other groups, and from organized antifa (“anti-fascist”) activists. Hundreds of riot-geared policeman, from both the Portland Police and the Oregon State Police attempted to keep the two groups apart, using rubber bullets and flashbangs when protestors refused to move. At one point, the police forces came under attack from rocks and bottles. Police reported that they confiscated weapons including fireworks, long sticks, baseball bats, pepper spray and home-made shields. There were injuries, and arrests were made, but the police characterized the event as a “civil disturbance” and not a “riot”.’
In Oregon yesterday. Wearing helmets and goggles and some with shields.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/04/us/portland-protests/index.html
@ Sharp Ears August 5, 2018 at 12:56
‘Antifa’ is a very dodgy group, and has strong links to the ‘ME Exceptionals’.
They have harassed and stopped meetings by ‘Keep Talking’ group, on the grounds that one of the participants has espoused questions about the ‘Ho^o^aust’, even when the subject of the meeting is not on that subject at all.
Personally I do not agree with the persons’ take on the ‘H’, but it should be open to genuine questioning, like numbers.
They are a gift to the right. Just as Aaron Bastani’s recent reaction to them. And Owen jones etc, Who WANT to take it into the realm of violence. “on the streets” Aaron said. “to educate the public”? No , he didn’t say it in that manner at all. He is goading the right.
All those in Antifa who (affiliated with “the left”) act like this are a real danger to progressive politics. As the trash the legacy of King etc.
The idea is you go out & get yourself beat up, to show the injustice, ” run into the bullets”. You don’t say I’m going to punch a “nazi”. You let them fight you & the world see’s what’s what and who is who.
Who’s the “man” who can take a punch on the nose & keep his cool?
To suggest we have a nazi movement even comparable in many ways is ridiculous, sure, it is in lots., but back then lots of people where REALLY into the idea. Didn’t have a history showing what the reality really is. This “understanding” was like the water everyone swam in.
Id suggest a lot of people don’t (aside from politicians & reactionary populist con men, & even they don’t really) have this mentality any more, & if so it’s fuzzy, as they are …Old people.
Yet Antifa act like it’s WWII and they are the front line being sent to the beaches. Good. I hope after they get in a fist fight with some “nazi” cultist thug they realise that accomplished sod all but make themselves look an idiot.
Both the fascists and the anti-fa could be astroturf designed to stir up trouble. Its part of the way colour revolutions are organised.
Ahh yes, the pureblood selective breeders. Crying out Forced “enrichment”, while they try to enforce a strict eugenics program through nation states.
I’ve only just realised that to really wipe the Palestinian’s noses in it, the US Embassy was transferred on May 14th, the 70th anniversary of the Nakba.
And still the Arab regimes’ leaders suck up to the ‘ME Exceptionals’.
But then, of course, they are no more true Muslims than I am.
@Paul Barbara,
“But then, of course, they are no more true Muslims than I am.”
Of course you are right Paul, but it is a little like saying Bush, Blair, Trump, May, Rees-Mogg are no more true Christians than I am.
Religion has always been used to control the masses, and the people at the top of all the religions usually turn out to be the most corrupt people of all – but they don’t care, because they are still in control.
I am indifferent as to which ethnic or tribal group finally brings Corbyn down, as I have no skin in any of these games.
But I am certain that Corbyn would have been Prime Minister last year, if he could have brought himself to utter the words “Stop Brexit”.
But he just couldn’t bring himself to do it. The words stuck in his craw, so here we are, and there he is.
How could he? He is above all a democrat. In any case, he wants to renationalise utility companies.
Oh that’s right Westminster is way more democratic than the EU, dream on.
There was a referendum if you recall.
That doesn’t make Westminster more democratic now does it. As we charge blissfully into the Brexit abyss.
I guess Corbyn is hoping to pick up the pieces of a post broken Brexit Britain as PM.
@ Republicofscotland August 5, 2018 at 14:35
Of course Britain is more democratic than the EU. We elect our MP’s, and after all this back-stabbing and 5th column subversion of our political system, people are going to be much more aware of the importance of who they elect, their past history, and what pledges they make pre-election.
We could well be a shining beacon to the people of Europe after Brexit.
If we can’t build our own cars, we can import cheap ones from the Far East. Who cares if we forgo Peugeots, Renaults, Mercs and Porsches? Let them hawk them in the Sahara, or in Ukraine (for peanuts).
“We could well be a shining beacon to the people of Europe after Brexit.”
Really? Is that why EU citizens visiting Britain has fallen, and soft fruits are rotting in the fields. Whilst a shortage of EU staff plagues our hospitals etc.
I very much doubt EU citizens see Britain as anymore than a isolationist state now.
“Of course Britain is more democratic than the EU. ”
Again really? Bungs to the DUP dark money funding elections, multiple lies over Brexit the undemocratic unelected HoL, the list goes on.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_to_the_European_Parliament
I can’t believe what I’m reading from supposedly intelligent people. What do you think an MEP is. If you don’t know, it is an MP elected locally to represent the local community in the European Parliament. What’s not democratic about that. Oh yes… And they are voted by PR not FPTP which is more democratic and used by every other European state, whether in or out of the EU.
Dumbo here fort dat, while de European Parliament (wiv very few powers) was elected, de European Commission (wiv lots of powers), weren’t! Good job I won’t need to worry abart any of dat stuff soon.
EC commisioners work like our civil servants to prepare cases that are put to parliamentary debate and vorlte. All decision-making is taken by the MEPs. Farage knows that but peddled the lie. He should be in prison.
@ quasi_verbatim August 5, 2018 at 13:43
He’s not down yet. There are millions of people in the UK (and doubtless around the world) who want him to be the UK’s Prime Minister.
And some of us have long memories, and will not forget the New Labour traitors who stabbed him in the back at every opportunity.
JC is our best (and probably last) hope; JC, !We Are With You!
I thought his appeal was based on his principled stances? You are saying that he should go against his own lifelong principle of opposition to the EU, for power. Doesn’t that make him an unprincipled politician like all the rest? Are you sure he would gain votes by doing that? Or is it the just the New Lab voters you are hoping to get back at the expense of the support of the Eurosceptic old left? What does that make you?
“But I am certain that Corbyn would have been Prime Minister last year, if he could have brought himself to utter the words “Stop Brexit”.
Indeed I can agree with you there, Corbyn sat on the fence far too long over Brexit, but then again I don’t ever recall him being pro-EU.
In a time where the current British government are in complete dissary and denial over just about everything, and minister come and go every other week. You’d have thought that Corbyn’s (even with the media being less favourable towards him) support would be sky high in the polls by now, but not so.
Corbyn is just one more loser in a long line of losers.
Corbyn loathes the EU, and always has. However many of his most ardent supporters are pro EU and so he vacillates and waffles in the hope that no-one can actually pin his position down.
The mass of the people want to leave the EU, have no interest in Palestinians and no interest in identity politics and political correctness. It is hilarious to witness Corbyn being laid low by his own preferred methods of shutting down debate.
He has passed his zenith and the more the Conservative Party betrays the people then they destroy not only their own support but also support for Corbyn.
At the next election UKIP will be back as very big players. The times they are a changing – and ironically they are being changed by those who will scream loudest about the changes that their behavior and actions have made inevitable.
You certainly don’t write like Loony, and I imagine you’re gripes with Corbyn are not my gripes with Corbyn.
But I won’t get into that aspect, lets just say that we can mutally agree that Corbyn isn’t too fond of the EU, and that his dithering on that matter for a long period over the last two years hasn’t helped his cause.
After a string of victories.
Loony.
So many incorrect assumptions @ 14.34 by Loony.
@ Loony August 5, 2018 at 14:34
JC a loser? That’s rich, coming from you!
Tell us again what you do for a living, Paul.
@ Anon1 August 5, 2018 at 16:34
What? Do you want me to end up like the Skripals?
“The mass of the people…”
Eh, just over HALF! Just under half wished to remain! That’s pretty much neck and neck. Hardly decisive or such a resounding outcome that you can dismiss one side.
And, actually, many people care about others outwith our own borders.
As for the Labour Remain MPs, remember how many of them are burying their preference because their constituencies voted Leave and they’re scared they’ll get thrown out if they don’t keep quiet!
@ Jo1 August 5, 2018 at 16:46
Try explaining to the bookie that your horse really won, but that the only reason the other horse got past the post first was because he had a longer nose. I’m sure he’ll see your point of view (but kiss goodbye to your bet!).
@Paul
I’m not saying my horse was only beaten by a nose.
You misunderstood my point.
Loony
“The mass of the people want to leave the EU, have no interest in Palestinians and no interest in identity politics and political correctness”
What evidence do you have for this statement. A poll in 2017 shows a strong pro -Palestinian support that cuts across party lane and also support for BDS.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170602-new-uk-poll-finds-overwhelming-cross-party-support-for-palestine/
I await your referenced response.
No-one cares. How is that hard to understand.
Sure people will say they care if asked a direct question – but they don’t. Palestine never features as an issue that voters are concerned about. Here is the BBC telling everyone what voters are interested in
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40630242
Sure the BBC is the epitome of fake news – but just look at how often the most vocal Palestinian cheerleaders quote the BBC. Face facts you and your ilk are completely captured by fake news.
Next up try rephrasing the questions asked in your poll to something like “Do you believe Pro-Palestinian support should be manifested by actions such as this.”
https://www.shabak.gov.il/english/heritage/affairs/Pages/Anne-MarieMurphyCase.aspx
Then see what kind of answers you will get.
“No one cares” eh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War
– “Europe saw the biggest mobilization of protesters, including a rally of three million people in Rome, which is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the largest ever anti-war rally.
– According to the French academic Dominique Reynié, between January 3 and April 12, 2003, 36 million people across the globe took part in almost 3,000 protests against the Iraq war”
Maybe you don’t appreciate the links between Israel, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Neoconservatism, 9/11, hydrocarbon resources, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and rocketing support for Corbyn etc. But that is purely your own problem.
Do you think the democrats should assassinate Trump?
What makes you think a party defying such a vote would be acceptable. ? The right would go mental. ? ..More mental.
O, seems I may have forgotten who I’m speaking to.
“O, seems I may have forgotten who I’m speaking to.”
Not to worry I’m sure if we just rearrange the deck chairs on HMS Brexitannia, everything will turn out fine and dandy.
I’m not your straw man ROS.
I’m against the British state. Any state so centrally constituted. I think the lot needs to be democratically re-formed in the interests of all. Not separating people into there own little capitalist state “free market” kingdoms.
@ Republicofscotland August 5, 2018 at 14:48
As long as we don’t fill it with ammunition, missiles, explosives and spying equipment, and sail it into Russian territorial waters, having ignored multiple warnings and shots across the bow.
And make sure the deckchairs float.
“I’m against the British state. Any state so centrally constituted. I think the lot needs to be democratically re-formed in the interests of all.”
You live in a fantasy world Ishmael, if you think that Westminster can, and will be reformed.
Stoopid suggestion reflective of the lack of reflection found in cultural sinks far removed from objective and reasoned thought. Now go fish for some carp.
Maybe you missed my point.
The “democrats” are trying to sidestep democratic process.
“A police officer phoned a charity to ask whether it was “culturally acceptable” for an Iraqi paedophile to have a 12-year-old girlfriend.”
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/forced-marriage-officer-asked-if-iraqi-man-could-date-a-12-year-old-3ngwf9cm2
Yes reported by the Times (Paywall) and others such as Jihad Watch, Breitbart and so on. A bit far fetched and if true is a rather poor reflection on the police training rather than anything else. Anyway paedophilia cuts across many races:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/teacher-27-arrested-having-sex-12242848
Why is this considered interesting?
You live in a multi cultural society. That means that different cultures live in the same society but retain separate cultures.
The UK has an age of consent – currently 16. There is nothing particularly significant about the age of 16 – it was simply chosen as an age that most people think seems to be a reasonable age.
In many other countries, especially those not informed by the Christian tradition, the age of consent is tied to the onset of puberty. As puberty occurs at different ages for different people there can be no defined age of consent. Clearly it would be inappropriate for a police officer to examine a 12 year old to determine whether or not puberty had commenced, and so seeking specialist advice would seem to be appropriate.
Right wing reactionaries seem to have a lot of trouble understanding this simple concept. This seems strange because the same people who feign ignorance of the meaning of multiculturalism have no trouble at all in understanding the importance of blasphemy laws – laws that must be applied to everyone regardless of their culture. No matter how reactionary or racist a person may appear you can guarantee that they will not draw or publish images of certain religious figures.
Tom Watson goes full National Socialist
https://skwawkbox.org/2017/01/30/exclusive-tomwatson-to-go-national-socialist-to-position-for-leadership-bid/
@ Shatnersrug August 5, 2018 at 17:01
Even if he went Full Monte National Socialist, he would still be more than welcome as a LFI, because they know where his ‘heart’ lies, and where his ‘loyalties’ (?) lie.
Well, I think most right thinking peoplecan see that it’s Muslim minorities that are being scapegoated these days. During the Nazi reign Jewish people were spoken about the way Muslims are now.
There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world – which seems to be quite a lot of people for them to be categorized as a minority.
There are 50 Muslim majority countries in the world – which also seems quite a lot.
By contrast there are only about 20 million Coptic Christians in the world – there are no Copt majority countries in the world and they are subjected to well documented persecution.
Based on the foregoing it would appear impossible to understand how any thinking person could come to the conclusions that you reach.
Amazing that ~ 10 million Jews can control the whole Western world plus the ME. according to some here; it might be even less doing it. I always thought that the Arab oil sheiks were the richest men on the globe and therefore very powerful: most are following Nethanyahoo’s tune, just like US Mil apparently..
Is it done through Jcwish voodoo or what?
During or before the Nasi days, how many Jcws bombed, knifed, shot or ran over co European citizens? Non. Totally false comparison
Religious Muslims have dozens of Islamic states to flee to for safety for many decades; religious Jews have only one since a few days.
I’ve just watched Jeremy Corbyn’s stomach-turning act of ritual obeisance to Z__nist power. What does he mean when he refers to the “number of cases” of “anti-Semitism” in the Labour party over the past 3 years being “less than 0.1% of Labour’s membership of more than half a million”?
0.1% of 500,000 is 500. Have nearly 500 members been purged? Disciplined? Or what?
@ N_ August 5, 2018 at 17:24
He is probably referring to ‘complaints’, which is a whole different kettle of fish.
He has to play a cautious game here. He is no fool.
A) he’s no fool, and
B) he has been battling these people for 40 years, before most even knew they existed.
Give the man some credit for god sakes N_. He’s managed to slip through the fascist net of the British state. There hasn’t been an all out Socialist in charge of the Labour Party din Hardie himself, you cannot underestimate how nervous that has the state, they will use any and all methods to undermine him, one of those is by encouraging his less thoughtful supporters to turn their back on him.
You wait to see what gets unleashed when we start deselecting Blairite MPs. You’ve seen nothing yet, and yes I do expect assassination attempts from supposed “lone wolf” fascists.
I’m sorry if it appeared I wasn’t giving Jeremy Corbyn some credit. He deserves enormous credit for what he has done so far. It’s just that that terrible video seemed like the political end of him, insofar as the people whose butts he is being forced to kiss are some seriously well organised and well funded fascists and it is an exceedingly inglorious thing for a socialist to do. There is no anti-Semitism in the Labour party. He managed to keep some dignity over nuclear weapons, as no Labour leader apart from Michael Foot has done since the weapons were invented, but he hasn’t kept much dignity over these totally false and evil allegations and against anti-racists more generally. If he’s got some punches planned and some energy left, all power to his elbow.
He’s already the best leader the party has had since before it was ever in government, and he could have been the best prime minister the country had ever had if Labour had won the last election, but I suspect it’s over now 🙁 If he pulls this round, crapping this new Zinoviev letter to oblivion, and wins a Labour landslide, that would be an amazingly good outcome.
But what are these fewer than 500 cases? Are they allegations that have been investigated or what?
You are dead right he’s no fool.
Blimey – anyone would think that him and his mates are negotiating Brexit.
It’s May’s negotiation with her own party that’s the stumbling block here not Corbyn.
Barry Chuckle from the Chuckle Brothers died yesterday and their catch phrase “To me – to you ” is
apposite.
Cocky Cameron believed that he could PR ( via Public Relations ) his party and the British Electorate into putting to bed the question of European membership in his party and the country at large.
This is in the Chuckle Brothers category of ” To me .” – namely the electorate.
The public gave him the two fingered salute and gave the leaving mechanism – (a plan? ) back to the politicians. This lands in the Chuckle Brothers category of ” To you.”
The politicians are now planning another ” to me to you ” routine by way of suggesting another Referendum.
Here’s a better idea for all the pundits and experts:
We have a few choices here:
Change the original result – a Referendum.
Change the electorate – impossible.
Have a General Election – very possible and thereby change some MPs.
At least in a GE ALL the effects ( imagined or real ) of Brexit would be debated in the round and as a whole.
It would certainly test a few theories as to which Constituencies voted which way.
The problem for Watson and his fellow travellers is that a GE is something to avoid – not welcome as unfortunately most anti Corbyn Labour Mps haven’t got a new job lined up yet.
I’ve no doubt Corbyn is already geared up for a GE it’s that – just like Brexit – the calling of one is not in his hands.
It’s in the hands of The Chuckle Brothers ( and sisters ) in Parliament.
And I’ll tell you what folks it’s that much of a serious threat to our nation that Parliamnet and the Lords needs a 12 week holidya to think it over.
Agree, to an extent he is, but he missed a trick over the “antisemitic picture” issue. Or maybe did not feel room to manurer. It may be possible to read it as “a hatred of ALL-, Etc. But hard to argue that was it’s intent. Or it was even “objectively” so.
To what extent are we exceptionalising some? Is it the same to say I hate “the British”? Sure it’s a gross generalisation, but i wouldn’t say someone who says it is necessarily “A racist”, e.g. born of someone who sat down & interrogated would have some hidden nazi ideology.
Yet it wasn’t picked apart at all. You are or your not. This is antisemitic & that’s not etc. There was no concern about the picture in the J-chronicle way before this. So why now? Yes it could be construed that way, but can’t many things people say be construed in other ways? (Except when Borris says stuff, you know he has a racist sexist streak a mile wide).
Iv no doubt that some would have for it offensive, that it could be SAID to fit intentionally into a “trope” But it’s a hell of a thing to equate with the things that led to what happened back then.
He was clearly forced to take a “brexit means brexit” line. Rather than illustrate nuance of the issue.
Things only mean something in context. Words themselves. But a picture can’t even have an existence in that realm, objectively.
As I said back them, no such thing as an “antisemitic picture” unless you could paint something that meant “all J..s”, …and to everyone thought history & all cultures. The point is people back then (and now) project ideology into pictures, so you didn’t have to paint “all …” , it was known how it was intended,.
It’s an ideology, it doesn’t exist anywhere “really”. & when we start calling out antisemitic
[stuff] that’s clearly not driven by someone with anything like that kind of intent.
……whatever, IMO he hung himself a bit then. & the “left” helped by all agreeing, this is an “antisemitic picture” full stop. .
Idiots, bunch of idiots imo. ….Yea, take it down off his personal page (i don’t agree it should have been removed as a mural). Say it was offensive to some so it was a bad idea etc. Im sure some find dickens offensive. But get lost with this eradication of nuance.
One of the guys whom the J__ish Chronicle and other J__ish racists hate the memory of so much is the late Hajo Meyer, who was an opponent of all kinds of racism including Z__nism, who condemned the Z__nist crimes against the Palestinians, who survived Auschwitz concentration camp, and who was a J__ who often compared the I__aeli regime to the Nazi one. This is the kind of honourable person and consistent anti-racist whose grave the IHRA are pissing on. They are totally beneath contempt.
Are Mejer’s friends in the Labour Party, and people who say publicly that he was a good guy, being “investigated for racism”? Is this what’s happening?
N_ asks if Hajo Meyer’s friends are being investigated for racism. One of them is Tony Greenstein, a Jewish anti-racist who has been expelled from the Labour party (but not for racism – there was some invented misdemeanour – he was expelled during McNicol’s reign). Marc Wadsworth has also been expelled. Jackie Walker is being lined up for expulsion.
Greenstein was at the ‘From Auschwitz to Gaza’ meeting. In his latest blog he carries a press statement from the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network UK, in which they say:
“They [Hajo Meyer + Haidar Eid] compared the dehumanisation of Jewish people in Hitler’s Germany pre-1941 and the dehumanisation of Palestinian people in current day Israel and occupied Palestine”
And Greenstein gives other examples where Israelis use the Nazi/Israel comparison. Referring to atrocities committed against Palestinians in 1948, an Israeli agriclultural minister says ” ….. Jews too have committed Nazi acts”.
http://azvsas.blogspot.com/2018/08/appeasing-your-enemies-adopting-their.html
Ps, I meant agree is no fool*.
I do think a lot of his more prominent backers are a bit groupthink though, to say the least.
Interesting Twitter campaign against Tom Watson
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ResignWatson?src=hash
That “binary weapon” stuff seems to have gone quiet doesn’t it. What with all that sealed perfume bottle spraying confirming it wasn’t.
Interesting strategy:
https://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Common-Enemy-Why-Israel-Is-Embracing-Fascism-in-Europe-20180801-0024.html
@ charming August 5, 2018 at 20:37
Indeed. Here is my counter-strategy:
”Common Enemy: Why I^^ael Is Embracing Fascism in Europe’:
https://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Common-Enemy-Why-I^rael-Is-Embracing-Fascism-in-Europe-20180801-0024.html
So I^^ael wines and dines REAL Fascist leaders, whilst it and it’s operatives and 5th Columnists kick up an almighty storm over fake Labour ‘anti-Semitism’.
Doesn’t something stink to high heaven here? They are ‘au fait’ with REAL Fascist parties in Europe and elsewhere, but strain at a gnat with Labour. Why? Because Jeremy Corbyn and most of the real Labour Party support Palestine against I^^ael’s abominations. This fact needs to be understood, and spread about, far and wide.
We have (up till now) Social Media and websites and blogs where we can find an alternative to the MSM, which will never tell us the truth about these matters.
It is time, well past time, we took the battle, the battle of the truth, to the doors of the perps. We need to take the battle to them – don’t let them keep Jeremy Corbyn and others on the back foot.
He, and we, have the High Ground. And we are many, they are few (albeit a well-funded ‘few’).
We are witnessing the Passion of the Corbyn.
@ Dave August 5, 2018 at 21:17
Let’s hope the ‘Chosen Ones’ have taken a bridge too far on this one.
I asked my SNP MP during an hour long interview, over a year ago, what he thought of Labour, and JC.
He was little impressed by Labour, but said JC was a great man, and he meant it. If this shit removes JC from British politics it will be a disgrace.
Love JC but he’s out of sync with the zeitgeist. People are angry and fed up and looking for gobby, hard men.
One of the most vocal critics of Corbyn from the moment of his election has been Jeremy Newmark as chairman of the Jewish Labour Movement (JLM).
In the 2017 general election Newmark’s parliamentary candidature in Finchley and Golders Green was strongly supported by Yvette Cooper.
He had to stand down/was forced out of his JLM role when this was revealed in the Jewish Chronicle:
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/jeremy-newmark-quits-as-jewish-labour-movement-chair-1.458482
He had previously been chief executive of the Jewish Leadership Council (JLC), one of the organisers of the well-publicised EnoughisEnough demonstration in Parliament Square earlier this year.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/enough-is-enough-protest-labour-mps-join-hundreds-of-activists-outside-parliament-in-campaign-to-a3799546.html
His boss at the JLC, Sir Chris Davis, is now chief executive of the Conservative party.
The new chair of the Jewish Labour Movement is Luciana Berger MP. She became director of the Labour Friends of Israel after student politics in the NUS backed by the numerically small but well-resourced Union of Jewish Students.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1247403/Labour-war-Blair-sons-glamorous-friend-chosen-safe-seat.html
See Yvette Cooper’s husband, Ed Balls, in my post below. A pair of Israel supporters. I assume LFI members.
Ed Balls ex Labour MP Morley and Outwood, 2005-2015 has just been doing a weepie in his BBC programme ‘Travels in Trumpland’ when he was hearing about a mass school shooting and visiting the family of a victim who was injured but survived.
What a hypocrite. What a trougher. What a shallow man. What a phoney.
‘In the 2015 general election Balls lost his seat to the Conservative Party’s Andrea Jenkyns by a margin of 0.9%. It was claimed that the Labour leader’s office had known for two weeks that Balls was likely to lose. On 11 May, it was reported that, on leaving the Commons, Balls would receive up to £88,000 in expenses for relocation and to close down his parliamentary office.
Later academic posts
Balls was appointed Senior Fellow at the John F. Kennedy School of Government and also became Visiting Professor of King’s College, London in October 2015.
Appearances in media
In 2016, he took part in The Great Sport Relief Bake Off and series 14 of the BBC’s Strictly Come Dancing. He was partnered with Katya Jones, a Russian professional dancer. Writing about his performance in the sixth week Halloween special, Michael Hogan of The Daily Telegraph said “The dad-dancing politician got a standing ovation from the studio audience, chuckles from the judges and enough viewer votes to keep him out of yet another dance-off.” He was eliminated in week 10.
A three-part documentary, Travels in Trumpland with Ed Balls, began broadcasting on BBC Two on 29 July 2018. It looks at supporters of President Trump and how things have changed. During the first episode, Balls took part in a professional wrestling match in order to explore the correlation between Trump and the sport.
In September 2017, Balls was placed at Number 74 in ‘The 100 Most Influential People on the Left’ by commentator Iain Dale’. LOL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Balls
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Here are his votes on Foreign Policy and Defence 2006-2014. Killing and maiming brown skinned people is OK if the state does the killing.
‘Generally voted for use of UK military forces in combat operations overseas
Almost always voted against investigations into the Iraq war
Generally voted for replacing Trident with a new nuclear weapons system
Generally voted for more EU integration
Generally voted against a referendum on the UK’s membership of the EU
Generally voted for strengthening the Military Covenant
Voted for military action against ISIL (Daesh)
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11740/edward_balls/morley_and_outwood/votes#foreignpolicy
PS I can remember seeing him on the platform in Trafalgar Square speaking to the crowd going wild celebrating Israel’s 60th birthday. The CST crowd were hovering at the back!
@ Sharp Ears August 5, 2018 at 22:19
Is Balls going to do follow-up programs, like ‘Travels in Afghanistan’, ‘Travels in Iraq’, ‘Travels in Sebia’, ‘Travels in Libya’, Travels in Syria’, ‘Travels in Gaza’? I hope he didn’t expend all his tears in Trumpland; he may need some in other schools around the Middle East and elsewhere.
Ed Balls probably fits in with the backward dimwits that voted for Trump
Anyone making accusations of anti something, with no evidence, could be sued. Jake W S knows the routine. I think JC could silence his critics pretty quickly if he went down that route.
This is like a Doune The Rabbit at the other side of The British Islands. It has been very hot…and all the people we have met have been lovely, and we shared what we have got. New Day…we did know a few people, and now we know a few more. Great Neiggbours. Tony
Those wondering why comment user IDs aren’t being saved this appears to be a bug in core WordPress introduced in update 4.9.8
See patch https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/44342
The bug fix was supposed to stop giving the save your user details message if comment cookies were disabled. It appears to have stopped it even if they are enabled. I imagine a new fix will come soon to fix their fix. I’ve removed that “fix” for now.
@ Squonk August 5, 2018 at 23:31
Cheers!.
I noticed that. I thought it was just me.
For those who were wondering…
The “Save my name” etc. tick-box disappeared because of a mistake in the latest WordPress update; sites hosted at WordPress.com itself have been affected similarly. On this blog, site admin have just now implemented a work-around. However, this will probably be undone by the next update of WordPress, causing the tick-box to disappear again until the work-around is re-implemented manually.
Thanks to Paul Barbara and others for the heads-up a couple of days ago:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/the-ubiquity-of-evil/comment-page-8/#comment-766710
Oh, beaten to it; well done Squonk!