My world view changed forever when, after 20 years in the Foreign Office, I saw colleagues I knew and liked go along with Britain’s complicity in the most terrible tortures, as detailed stunningly in the recent Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee Report. They also went along with keeping the policy secret, deliberately disregarding all normal record taking procedures, to the extent that the Committee noted:
131. We note that we have not seen the minutes of these meetings either: this causes us great concern. Policy discussions on such an important issue should have been minuted. We support Mr Murray’s own conclusion that were it not for his actions these matters may never have come to light.
The people doing these things were not ordinarily bad people; they were just trying to keep their jobs, comforting themselves with the thought that they were only civil servants obeying orders. Many were also actuated by the nasty “patriotism” that grips in time of war, as we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Almost nobody in the FCO stood up against the torture or against the illegal war – Elizabeth Wilmshurst, Carne Ross and I were the only ones to leave over it.
I then had the still more mortifying experience of the Foreign Office seeking to punish my dissent by bringing a series of accusations of gross misconduct – some of them criminal – against me. The people bringing the accusations knew full well they were false. The people investigating them knew they were false from about day 2. But I was put through a hellish six months of trial by media before being acquitted on all the original counts (found guilty of revealing the charges, whose existence was an official secret!). The people who did this to me were people I knew.
I had served as First Secretary in the British Embassy in Poland, and bumped up startlingly against the history of the Holocaust in that time, including through involvement with organising the commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. What had struck me most forcibly was the sheer scale of the Holocaust operation, the tens of thousands of people who had been complicit in administering it. I could never understand how that could happen – until I saw ordinary, decent people in the FCO facilitate extraordinary rendition and torture. Then I understood, for the first time, the banality of evil or, perhaps more precisely, the ubiquity of evil. Of course, I am not comparing the scale of what happened to the Holocaust – but evil can operate on different scales.
I believe I see it again today. I do not believe that the majority of journalists in the BBC, who pump out a continual stream of “Corbyn is an anti-semite” propaganda, believe in their hearts that Corbyn is a racist at all. They are just doing their job, which is to help the BBC avert the prospect of a radical government in the UK threatening the massive wealth share of the global elite. They would argue that they are just reporting what others say; but it is of course the selection of what they report and how they report it which reflect their agenda.
The truth, of which I am certain, is this. If there genuinely was the claimed existential threat to Jews in Britain, of the type which engulfed Europe’s Jews in the 1930’s, Jeremy Corbyn, Billy Bragg, Roger Waters and I may humbly add myself would be among the few who would die alongside them on the barricades, resisting. Yet these are today loudly called “anti-semites” for supporting the right to oppose the oppression of the Palestinians. The journalists currently promoting those accusations, if it came to the crunch, would be polishing state propaganda and the civil servants writing railway dockets. That is how it works. I have seen it. Close up.
A male Tory councillor iin Scotland, Ron McKail, has got his name in the papers for referring to Muslim women as “patio umbrellas”.
…another scumbag abusing women, without the guts to abuse the men, even on its Fa卐ebook or Twitter account.
If he’s so opposed to covering up, perhaps he should wear a minikilt?
They must have odd-looking patio umbrellas in Scotland. I don’t see the similarity. I suppose they have to be bolted down to withstand the wind and rain.
The Sun has helped circulate the image that McKail used. (Warning: the caption is offensive.)
He has previously approvingly distributed propaganda [*] issued by Britain First and the English Defence League.
(*) An action the Sun refers to as a sharing of social media messages.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3050251/scots-tory-councillor-aberdeenshire-ron-mckail-muslim-umbrella/
‘I am a former serviceman and that is why I shared it’. Oh I see Mr McKail. Is that because servicemen don’t like Muslims especially females wearing burkas. Or is it because they might have brown skin?
Thanks. I get it now.
MJ, might have something to do with the predation of the infamous Scottish midge; Culicoides impuctans. Vicious little buggers in my experience, and an all over brolly with a little slot could provide some sort of protection and allow the service of picnic comestibles.
My method for dealing with midges is to avoid Scotland. Works for me.
A tartan for his mini-kilt may be a problem as McKail appears to be an Irish family name from County Mayo.
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
But when does an opinion become an assertion?
I hate the term ‘conspiracy theorist’ too, it’s too often used to discredit people, as it encompasses the whole gamut; from obvious cranks to sensible people who ask pertinent questions. A conspiracy theorist ‘asserts’ whereas what Craig does is ask questions, questions that quite frankly the press should be asking.
craig asserts that 9/11 coud not have been carried out by the deep state. he is a 9/11 evidence denier, he does not look at the evidence, just takes a view, with no basis in fact or evidence, that it would not have been possible or them to do 9/11 from within, because one of his mates told him that it would be too big a job and this mate of his knows what he is talking about so nuh. this viewpoint begs the question……”if the out of control, blatently criminal deep state could not orchestrate such an operation from within, how the fuck did bin laden manage it from the caves of afghansitan?”. stupidity reigns. i like this blog, but when it all comes out in the wash, craig is part of the problem, mr pied piper, leading the high on hubris, guardian reading, “oh so intelligent darling” idiots to bask in the glory of their totally invalid, void of any evidence views about what happened on 9/11.
Moocho,
Highly intelligent people such as Craig Murray, do change their views about this subject, sometimes many years after the event. To do so publically, can be highly personally damaging in numerous ways, that many including myself have experienced. I have no idea what Craig personally thinks about this issue now, as I have never met him, and privately discussed the issue with him.
One person I have enormous respect for is a man born in Switzerland to Russian parents, now living in Florida. His personal history is a military analyst, and he spent some time working for The UN in places such as Yugoslavia, during that war. It took even him 8 years to work it out. He has published his views in a book that I have bought, and also here. Notice his identity is far from obvious.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByibNV3SiUooYVhGQVB1X1FTalk/view
Tony
Craig may be scared as well, which is understandable. regarding the article you linked to, he points out how the debris was immediately shipped to china when legally speaking wtc1, 2 and 7 debris was evidence at a crime scene. Christopher Bollyn points out that 9/11 was instantly declared an “Act of War”, a legal term which conveniently allowed them to bypass all standard legal procedures, negating the need for forensics etc. link here, fantastic presentation Christopher Bollyn DC 9112017 “The War on Terror among Truth seekers” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuOsiMVlMBw&t=80s Your article also focuses on the building collapses quite a bit. this film is probably the best research video i have seen on the collapse and science of 9/11, recommended “9/11: A Scientific Look at the Evidence 2016 – The Science of 9/11” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRYLdB_ba_0
Is Islam phobia the new anti-Semitism?
Today’s Mail is going out of its way to make excuses for Boris’ comments.
It’s funny how any alleged(evidence-thin) racism in Labour is ‘vile A-S abuse’ whereas Boris, they claim, is raising a valid debate.
.debate? Should qe reallyentipn rhis wors in trying to explain a well thought out nasty generalisation, a dorty slur he.knew every Muslim woman would react to.
It shows the poor quality of journalism when they try and make out that this attack had anything to do with debate.
Freedom of speech for de Pfeffel, hysterical faux outrage for Jeremy Corbyn and Labour’s pro-Palestinians.
It’s a rum old thing!
What if we stopped taking offence, let people say what they like, develop adequate resilience, take full responsibility for our own actions, total free speech, including incitement to violence? If that works, would we have a better world?
Not everyone is offended by the same thing. How do you police that? I want an end to the PC culture and return to free speech. Incitement to violence is obviously not acceptable.
One of the points I was making, was that the world might become a better place if no-one took offence and that if you are incited to violence you have to take full responsibility for that reaction and restrain yourself-or get arrested. Hope you understand.
‘Russia to treat further US sanctions as an open declaration of economic war – PM’:
https://www.rt.com/news/435595-sanctions-economic-war-medvedev/
‘Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has warned the US that any sanctions targeting Russian banking operations and currency trade will be treated as a declaration of economic war and retaliated against by any means necessary.
“If they introduce something like a ban on banking operations or the use of any currency, we will treat it as a declaration of economic war. And we’ll have to respond to it accordingly – economically, politically, or in any other way, if required,” Medvedev said during a trip to the Kamchatka region.
“Our American friends should make no mistake about it,” he emphasized.
Medvedev noted that Russia has a long history of surviving economic restrictions and never caved in to the pressure in the past. “Our country had been living under constant pressure through sanctions for the last hundred years,” Medvedev said, accusing the US and its allies of employing sanctions to undercut global competition. “Nothing has changed.”
The prime minister said that by targeting Russia’s gas exports to Europe, Washington wants to push its own LNG shipments to the continent. “It’s an absolutely nonmarket anti-competition measure aimed at strangling our capabilities.”…..’
Pearl Harbour was attacked by Japan because of US sanctions.
The sanctions on Russia are largely without any justification other than evidence-less allegations (MH17, Salisbury/Amesbury,Electoral Hacking), the same sort of evidence-less allegations that led to the invasions or attacks on Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan (Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory), Syria, drone strikes all over, almost invariably on Muslim countries).
‘…economically, politically, or in any other way, if required..’
Some of his later actions may be questionable, but I was deeply saddened to hear of the death of Ronald Dellums at age 82.
For 2 years, he served as Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/07/ron-dellums-as-i-knew-him/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Dellums
This entry should be a must read for every student of history, in every university, everywhere!
Way back in July, Craig wrote ‘The Russophobic witch hunt has its first real life victim in 29 year old Maria Butina, whose life is to be destroyed for chatting up members of the NRA in order to increase Russian influence. With over 20 years of diplomatic experience, I can tell you that every country, including the UK and US, has bit part players of its own nationals who self-start in a country to make their way, and if they gain any traction are tapped by their national security service as potential “agents of influence”. I could name quite literally scores of such people, but have no desire to get anyone in trouble. The elevation of Butina into a huge threat and part of a gigantic plot, is to ignore the way the United States and the United Kingdom and indeed all major governments’ Embassies behave around the globe.’
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/detente-bad-cold-war-good/
Now Philip Giraldi writes:
Butina Case: Neo-McCarthyism Engulfs America
By Philip Giraldi
August 09, 2018
https://www.globalresearch.ca/butina-case-neo-mccarthyism-engulfs-america/5650106
“I can tell you that every country, including the UK and US, has bit part players of its own nationals who self-start in a country to make their way, and if they gain any traction are tapped by their national security service as potential “agents of influence””
Graham Green the author Brighton Rock, The Quiet American, Our Man in Havana (a favourite of Craig’s I think) and The Third Man, was recruited for MI6 by his sister Elizabeth.
Greene would travel to destinations for research on his books, but with a added agenda. His handler was I think the infamous Soviet double agent Kim Philby.
The outcome of Greene’s Havana adventure was that Britain obtained the plans for an atomic powered vacuum cleaner.
Yes, it was said that Castro wasn’t too enamoured with the book, nor Greene for that matter.
Maybe they didn’t appreciate his sense of humour. ?
“Famous” Kim Philby please. He betrayed about 300 Ukrainian and Latvian terrorists sent to Latvia and Ukraine in the 1940s and 1950s to the USSR. St Clement Attlee kept the survivors of nazi atrocities out of Britain while allowing the Ukrainian SS division Galizien and various Latvian SS units to migrate here. They provided a lot of the recruits whom Philby “betrayed” good for him.
Just read this comment in today’s Independent and thought it rather interesting re our Soap Opera in Salisbury
FlyByNight
1 hour ago
“The incident later claimed the life of a British national, Dawn Sturgess, after the 44-year-old, who lived in the nearby town of Amesbury, picked up a discarded perfume bottle containing the nerve agent”. Sturgess did not pick up a discarded perfume bottle – Charlie Rowley claimed to have picked up a sealed box containing a bottle of perfume which he opened and then gave to Dawn Sturgess. Nor did Sturgess live in Amesbury (that is where Rowley lives). The police have never referred to it as a perfume bottle and merely said they found a “small bottle”. The likeliest explanation is that this container had shake and bake methamphetamine residue in it decanted from a larger bottle. Junkies use sudafed, starter fuel, drain cleaner and lithium batteries but the “cook” will add other ingredients as well. The organophosphate was an unexpected component of one of the ingredients. Dawn was killed when the bottle blew up in her face (a sadly common occurrence in Australia and the US and now happening in the UK). The contaminated public toilet in Queen Elizabeth Gardens is the “drug den” referred to in previous news reports. Local junkies need to be questioned as to what ingredients they are/were putting in their shake and bake meth.
I suppose if one were open minded about the matter, the sad demise of Miss Sturgess, could be used against the Russian’s. It’s not as if impartial parties would gain access to the offending chemicals to test them and ergo the veracity of Porton Down and Whitehall.
Jeremy Hunt has already publicly lauded Trump’s further sanctions on Russia. The Kremlin added counter sanctions would soon follow. If Barnier and Co were wise, they’d stay out of this one.
Not Trump’s. It was Congress going over Trump’s head. That was the point I suppose.
Thank you MJ, yes in this article (if it’s to be believed) it hints that Trump was rather coy about the sanctions.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/world/europe/sanctions-russia-poisoning-spy-trump-putin.html
Medicalised abusers of hard drugs in Salisbury are a group among whom Porton Down may well find guinea pigs. I would be surprised if they didn’t. As a matter of certain fact, Porton Down have a record of testing biological and chemical weapons on hundreds of thousands of unknowing people in Britain. Victims included both military personnel and civilians. MOD tests were also carried out against Punjabi women in Coventry who could speak little or no English. The figure for the number of victims of secret CBRW testing in Britain is probably in the millions. Guess what – many medics were involved.
Has a single high-up British figure ever been jailed for what by its nature and scale can clearly be classed as this (or any other) crime against humanity?
Anybody who decides that what has been revealed is the most they are prepared at the moment to believe happened (especially if they are so naive as to think this goes “against the grain” of society and therefore requires copious “evidence” – i.e. the bosses are, deep down, most of the time, lovely humanitarian darlings) is kidding themselves. This does not go against the grain of society. Big business and the state hierarchy are often much more evil than many of their toughest critics suppose.
“Local junkies need to be questioned as to what ingredients they are/were putting in their shake and bake meth.”
Those higher up the illegal and legal drug ladders need to be questioned. So do the manager and senior staff at Boots, local GPs, all medics with patients known to be hard drug users, big illegal wholesalers, drug squad officers, and any staff at any nearby drug dependency unit. Let’s not hold our breath.
Is there any other source for the “drug den” – tabloid speak for a drop – being the toilet? In fact is there definitely a toilet in or near that park? Generally speaking a public toilet is an idiotic place to choose as a drop, especially for multi-time use.
Not only is it a crime, but it is completely against the principles that set up the UN at Central Hall, Westminster in April 1945. The US removed their UNCHR signature because, after Truman replaced Roosevelt and they dropped the atom bombs and decided that they’d have to do tests on human guinea pigs. The UK remained at the centre of UNCHR but clearly started using human guinea pigs in the 1950s. So did France and the Soviet Union I suspect but they remained signatories.
In a similar vein the US used the Marshall Islanders as radiation guinea pigs after the atomic bomb tests there. According to a 1980s documentary (which woke me up to American atrocity), when The Drake was due to be tested on atoll in 1954 the military was warned by the meteorologists to delay the test, because the wind had changed direction and the fallout would spread over the Marshall Islands about 120 miles to the south east. They detonated it anyway, and in the years since the US has had living experiments in the people, their livestock, the local wildlife and the marine environment.
If in time the cancers kill off the Marshall Islanders as is quite possible that has to be a genocide, surely?
If Dawn Sturgess did some facial damaged due to the container exploding as you suggest, we will now never know, as her body has conveniently been cremated.
Funny that.
There are three times as many cremations as burials in Britain, and cremations are cheaper.
and maybe .000001 of them involved purported victims of toxic bioweapons.
so is this suggesting it was not a novichok agent which killed Dawn Sturgess but her reaction to the methamphetamine she was taking and some other ingredient it was mixed with?
@Paul,
Brilliant post, sums up completely how I feel about the whole charade.
Thank you Paul that is a true insight to the real world as opposed to the 1984 world of the May/Tory claphouse.
I guess the ingredients and methods are seriously flawed then and perhaps that explains the regular occurrence of bodies in the streets and parks.
I wonder who is distributing this preparation method as it seems like it will have few return customers to higher ups in the junkie fiefdom.
I see Mr Bean, has come out and defended Boris Johnson’s face veil comments. Apparently Atkinson found them funny. Is Atkinson looking at it from a comedians point of view? Or what?
(You need to register to read it all) but you can
read some of it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/10/rowan-atkinson-defends-boris-johnson-burka-comments/
Rowan’s older brother Rodney once stood for Ukip in elections.
http://www.picshag.com/postbox-fail.html
I look forward to you sharing this guy’s jokes too. Or are you a hypocrite?
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/2/17/14613234/pewdiepie-nazi-satire-alt-right
Did anyone ever find Mr Bean funny, or Anon1, for that matter?
Oh, I’d suggest the Anon 1 is indeed ‘funny’ as in, ‘a bit “funny”‘ 🙂
I found Mr Bean very funny.
Seconded, in the vein of the best of British humour. In fact, way upstream i said quite emphatically and candidly that i thought Boris’s remarks were funny. Am glad to see Atkinson of all people to feel similarly.
I refuse to be politically correct as vehemently as i refute all organised religions, with Islam being the latest on the block of the Abrahamic religions, and also the least mature. As far as i’m concerned the joke is indeed on those card carrying members and those who wear their religion on their sleeve or in this case on their masks. The latter just for the more beautiful of the two sexes. Am i allowed to count just two sexes? Well, i couldn’t give a damn.
@Observer,
I agree and so would my Iranian born Muslim wife. She wonders why anyone would wear so called Islamic dress in the UK.
She still prays, but does not need to cover herself in acres of clothing to do so.
A lot of people find mr bean very unfunny, i remember a number of people walked out of the movie theatre during his first film about a french holiday. Maybe if Norman Wisdom cracked the same joke…?
I never bothered.
Prob. gut instinct.
Republicofscotland
August 10, 2018 at 14:08
!I see Mr Bean, has come out and defended Boris Johnson’s face veil comments. Apparently Atkinson found them funny. Is Atkinson looking at it from a comedians point of view? Or what?”
Mr Bean has spoken.This is interesting as Rowan Atkinson aka Mr Bean is worshipped throughout out the Islamic world in Southeast Asia.Even the waiters in restaurants imitate Mr Bean.
There is irony in the fact that among the few prominent figures to have defended Boris Johnson is a well-known comedian who specialises in farce and whom few would deny is highly skilled at it.
For full effect, Atkinson should release a video of himself in “Mr Bean” character praising Johnson’s effort.
Comedian Pat Condell is not only against veils… He is frequently blocked on Youtube & Twitter . http://www.patcondell.net/
He is also a nasty racist piece of slime.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/10/militarizing-space-starship-troopers-same-as-it-ever-was/
This too is worth a read, and gives more history and background than offered by the article in today’s Independent.
PNAC were advocating stuff like this a while back.
https://www.antiwar.com/orig/stockbauer1.html
‘Trump doubles steel and aluminum tariffs on Turkey’: https://www.rt.com/business/435624-trump-doubles-steel-aluminium-tariffs-turkey/?
‘…..On August 1 Washington announced sanctions against Turkey’s justice and interior ministers, prohibiting US entities and citizens from doing business with them, after threatening to impose “large sanctions” if Ankara failed to free Brunson.
Erdogan replied that Turkey will not back down despite Trump’s sanctions policy and said he would answer with mirror retaliation.
“We had shown patience until yesterday evening. Today I am instructing my friends that we will freeze the assets of US secretaries of justice and interior in Turkey,” he said last week.
The Turkish president added that NATO could lose an ally. “The US should not forget that it could lose a strong and sincere partner like Turkey if it does not change its attitude,” he was quoted as saying by Hurriyet daily.’
Eeh, hee, hee, hee! Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble!
I can see the US’s F35 sales to Turkey going ‘phat!’, S-400 sales from Russia to Turkey going ahead, and let’s hope, NATO membership being torn up, with strategic treaties between Turkey and Russia, and perhaps other regional nations.
Bootiful, Mr. Boobicus Orangicus! You’re doing great in this situation (but more by luck than judgement!).
Meanwhile, on another front:
‘North Korea faces ‘catastrophic effects’ as heatwave leaves crops withering in field, causing devastating food shortages’:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-heatwave-weather-latest-food-shortages-famine-a8486166.html
Act of God, or weather warfare? I would definitely opt for weather warfare.
For those who think that is ‘tin-hat loony conspiracy theory’, I suggest you read:
‘USAF ‘Owning The Weather By 2025′ – How Much Progress?’: https://rense.com/general76/uas.htm
The actual document itself is here: ‘Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025’: http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
‘…One major advantage of using simulated weather to achieve a desired effect is that unlike other
approaches, it makes what are otherwise the results of deliberate actions appear to be the consequences of
natural weather phenomena. In addition, it is potentially relatively inexpensive to do. According to J. Storrs
Hall, a scientist at Rutgers University conducting research on nanotechnology, production costs of these
nanoparticles could be about the same price per pound as potatoes.34 This of course discounts research and
development costs, which will be primarily borne by the private sector and be considered a sunk cost by
2025 and probably earlier….’
Earthquakes, floods, droughts – all can be produced with currently known technologies.
Syria had a series of droughts before 2011; perhaps ’caused’ to stir the pot of disaffection pre the influx of the headchopping mercenary proxies?
Sure, these things could be ‘just coincidences’, they may really be just ‘acts of God’, or ‘acts of nature’.
Paul Barbara,
I am almost certain, that the only weather warfare, that could work, except on a very small local scale, would be the result of letting off a large number of nuclear bombs, which would produce enormous dust clouds in the atmosphere, and cut off sunlight, to large areas. Volcanoes, can and have produced the same effect, and could still do so at any time, with little if any warning. The French Revolution was largely a result of such a volcanic event.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/15/iceland-volcano-weather-french-revolution
To change the weather deliberately, requires an enormous deployment of energy, which would be completely obvious to everyone who was still alive to witness it.
Both the Earth and the Sun, are far more powerful, than any of the lifeforms (including the human race) scratching the surface of the planet.
Tony
Nevertheless, weather modification techniques for the purposes of inducing damage or destruction were banned by the UN in 1978. It sounds as though the technology was around even then. HAARP might be a candidate.
The US used weather modification in their war on Vietnam by seeding clouds with silver iodide to precipitate torrential rain (Operation Popeye). This lead to the 1978 treaty.
HAARP’s actual clandestine function was to communicate with US nuclear-armed submarines while submerged. The only radio waves that can penetrate water are of extremely low frequency – ELF. Transmission of ELF requires a very long antenna. The US built an antenna hundreds of miles long consisting of wires on poles on the US mainland, but it was vulnerable to broken wires at any point. But then they figured that a device like HAARP could modulate the natural electrojet around the north or south pole, thus using the electrojet as a very long antenna and transmitter combined.
When HAARP was being designed, various speculative patents were filed in case the technology proved capable of things such as weather modification and interfering with incoming ICBMs. From a physics viewpoint, it seems highly unlikely that HAARP could modify the weather on a large scale or at any great distance from itself, though similar devices could be built elsewhere.
HAARP proved useful for ionospheric research. It was the first such device built; there are now various others operated by various countries.
HAARP is operated by Fairbanks University, Alaska; ironically the university of Dr. Leroy Hulsey, much beloved of 9/11 Twin Tower demolition theorists.
The CIA famously ‘weaponised’ the term ‘conspiracy theory’. Noam Chomsky unearthed a CIA memo recommending that snippets of information about Kennedy’s assassination be released in dribs and drabs, in order to encourage ‘conspiracy theories’.
Something to be remembered about arms dealers is that they always sell to both (or all) sides wherever possible. Psychological warfare is much the same. Cherish your scepticism, and join CAAT.
Interesting post, Clark. Any thoughts on the ‘Norway Spiral’? (Remember that?)
http://www.spellconsulting.com/reality/Norway_Spiral.html
I’ve no idea, but it’s rather beautiful, isn’t it? Maybe a university art department occupation took over the engineering faculty and did it for a prank. Maybe a software student sent his latest screensaver to the wrong output device.
More seriously, it doesn’t look like a failed missile test, so I wonder why the Russian military issued a cover story? And technology development doesn’t generally work in single instances, it’s most unusual to get something absolutely right on the first attempt, yet it looks remarkably regular. Sorry, I haven’t a clue!
Clark,
Re: Noam Chomsky unearthed a CIA memo recommending that snippets of information about Kennedy’s assassination be released in dribs and drabs, in order to encourage ‘conspiracy theories’.
Have you a link or reference for that?
The conventional ‘wisdom’ on conspiracy theories in Liberal/ Left discourse is probablt attributable to Popper’s writings. It was though the ideology of his contemporary, Strauss, which came to dominate US foreign policy and therefore global relations:
Strauss, a founding figure in modern neo-conservative thought, was equally harsh in his attacks upon conspiracy analysis, but for polar-opposite reasons. In his mind, elite conspiracies were absolutely necessary and beneficial, a crucial social defense against anarchy or totalitarianism, but their effectiveness obviously depended upon keeping them hidden from the prying eyes of the ignorant masses. His main problem with “conspiracy theories” was not that they were always false, but they might often be true, and therefore their spread was potentially disruptive to the smooth functioning of society. So as a matter of self-defense, elites needed to actively suppress or otherwise undercut the unauthorized investigation of suspected conspiracies.
– Unz
Sorry Mog, it was something Chomsky said in a videoed interview, so it would be difficult to search for and I don’t remember which interview.
But the trouble with conspirologists is that by and large they don’t investigate. They speculate, amplify and echo, thus creating multiple, contradictory, distracting red herrings. The sort of thing I’ve posted above about HAARP is what I have found actual documentary evidence for during my wild goose chases looking for hard evidence that might support ‘conspiracy theories’. It is also consistent with known science and known military activity.
Is it really worth pursuing highly unlikely and speculative theories just because some neocon said not to? Isn’t that like Br’er Rabbit pleading with Br’er Fox not to throw him into the brier-patch?
Clark,
As for the Chomsky quote, I will try to find, as I am surprised that I have not heard mention of such an admitted tactic from the CIA before, despite having read a lot about them.
But the trouble with conspirologists is that by and large they don’t investigate. They speculate, amplify and echo, thus creating multiple, contradictory, distracting red herrings.
I think this is vague and discredited argument, one that is only kept alive by endless repitition.
Allegations of ‘conspiriology’ were laid aginst those who accused the UK gov of complicity in torture, against those who tried to raise awareness of mass surveillance, against those who called out the Iraq war lies before they had their deadly effect. As you know, the list of ‘conspiracy theories that turned conspiracy fact’ goes on and on, yet you continue to amplify the weaponisation of the term yourself.
Conspiriologists by and large do investigate. Some are more disciplined than others, but all are hampered by the obstruction of legal processes that in ‘normal’ circumstances would act to clarify and systemise the handling of contradictory evidence.
Is it really worth pursuing highly unlikely and speculative theories just because some neocon said not to? Isn’t that like Br’er Rabbit pleading with Br’er Fox not to throw him into the brier-patch?
Straw man argument, as that is not what Unz or I suggest. Rather, it is a confirmation that the weaponisation of the ‘conspiracy theory’ term and the discouragement of transparency that comes with such discouragement, is regarded by those at the top of the power pyramid as important so that they can get away with committing conspiracies.
For what its worth, the HAARP stuff was interesting, and IMO worth the effort despite all those dead ends.
– “I think this is vague and discredited argument, one that is only kept alive by endless repitition”
I wasn’t repeating someone else’s argument; it is my own experience. I expect that much of what you see as repetition is actually the experience of others like myself. Of course, the establishment will repeat it too, with dubious justification – very dubious, in light of the recent ‘novichok’ nonsense, for instance, which presents essentially no evidence and shouldn’t convince anyone.
– “Allegations of ‘conspiriology’ were laid aginst those who accused the UK gov of complicity in torture, against those who tried to raise awareness of mass surveillance [etc…]“
True, but those accusations were raised not by conspirologists but by whistleblowers, people in the know, some of whom had fled their jobs or been sacked for speaking out. Predictably, the establishment tries to dismiss such whistleblowers as conspirologists; this is the purpose of the complimentary tactics of (1) encouraging conspirology and (2) weaponising the term. Without conspirological red herrings, the establishment slur would be toothless.
Two books that have greatly helped me clarify my thinking around these issues are Bad Science and Bad Pharma, both by Ben Goldacre – highly critical of the ‘news’ media, his column no longer appears in the Guardian. Nafeez Ahmed was likewise ejected from the Guardian.
Quoting myself:
– “(1) encouraging conspirology”
See Bad Science, especially the later chapters. A very large proportion of MSM content consists of conspirology, albeit toned down somewhat from the sort of thing you tend to find on-line.
Conspirology is a habit of mind. Unfortunately it is humans’ default setting; our feelings tend to attribute bad events to deliberate but possibly covert “enemy action”, whether that enemy be real or imagined. Critical thinking, by contrast, has to be learned and practised, and requires constant self-discipline, and either broad general knowledge or reference to expert sources. One hallmark of conspirology is to dismiss all expert sources as under the power of the assumed conspiracy, cf. “I think the British people have had enough of experts!”
Most establishment conspiracies take place completely out in the open; eg. see my comments about Centrica Storage and the disrepair of the Rough gas storage facility below. Obvious collusion between government and the corporate sector, but there wasn’t even any attempt to hide it. Likewise the ‘bail out’ of the financial sector.
Around foreign policy the waters are a little more murky; it has taken some years for evidence about Libya and Syria to accumulate, for instance, but the establishment obfuscation over these was in reaction to Iraq, where at least tens of millions of the global public saw through the spin rather easily. Even PNAC’s Project for a New American Century was published right out in the open.
Mog, I may have got the Chomsky snippet wrong, though that is what I think I remember. However, in searching for it I found this:
https://chomsky.info/20051031/ – in the 11th paragraph:
– “If the intelligence agencies knew what they were doing, they would stimulate conspiracy theories just to drive people out of political life, to keep them from asking more serious questions”
However, that’s from 2005, and I’m pretty sure the interview I referred to was more recent than that.
Tony
The people who really understand how the sun affects weather and events like volcanoes and earthquakes know that events on the sun’s surface like Coronal Mass Ejections and Solar Flares result fairly soon after in strong events in the earth’s upper straosphere, courtesy of a strong time-limited pulse of electromagnetic radiation.
This arrival affects the earth’s geomagnetic field, it can affect the jet stream etc etc.
HAARP is technology designed to mimic such events creating EMR streams from earth focussed to arrive at particular locations in the stratosphere.
I would lay heavy money US military + banksters deliberately create weather patterns to affect crop yields, as then banksters can make billions on commodity futures trading.
There has been a sudden increase in frequency of Sudden Stratospheric warming events, from once every few years to much more often. This may be natural (we only have 60 years of SSW data), but HAARP interference is definitely in the frame too.
What is required is a Snowden/Assange mole inside the HAARP network who can leak the truth, if the truth needs to be leaked.
At the very least, global control of weather by unaccountable parties cannot be tolerated. Everyone must input into that if it happens….and letting it happen is highly dangerous due to the law of unintended consequences.
– “I would lay heavy money…”
Total solar power incident upon Earth ~1.75x10^17 watt
Total power of HAARP ~ 1.25x10^7 watt
What odds are you offering, and how long should we wait for direct evidence?
There is actually a serious point to my 12:02 comment above. Rhys Jaggar’s comment fundamentally misunderstands the nature of financial speculation. Greater uncertainty in the supply of anything always increases both the potential profits and the potential losses to be made from speculation, but with the lack of regulation in the financial sector and supine governments taking advice from economists employed by the banksters, governments are prepared to bail out the private banks from the public purse – the financiers internalise the profits and externalise the losses.
The speculators don’t need a super-secret HAARP conspiracy and the risk of exposure it implies; they will do fine thank-you-very-much from the increasing extremes of weather predicted for several decades due to rising CO2 concentrations and the fact that the governmental-private system is rigged in their favour.
This is also the reason that Centrica Storage performed absolutely no maintenance on the UK’s long-term gas storage facility at Rough, over the near two decades since the UK government sold it to them. Centrica Storage is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Centrica Energy, so when the UK ran out of available gas like it did this March, Centrica Energy made a small fortune.
Of course, performing no maintenance left Centrica Storage in breach of their contract with the UK government, but it isn’t like there was any danger of the government actually suing them or anything, because what is meant to be our government is actually in the pockets of the corporations and financiers.
Sorry if this all seems a little complicated compared to secret conspiracies with James Bond-style villains and secret death-ray installations, but that’s just because it is.
And when you hear some UK government tosser going on about ‘national security’ and the need for UK nuclear weapons, remember this…
With no long-term gas storage facility and over half of UK electricity generated by gas, the UK has no national security. One conventional depth charge, dropped from a fishing boat or whatever, could take out the pipeline that supplies half of the UK’s gas. In winter, with no long-term storage, the UK’s lights would go out in under 24 hours and old folk would start freezing to death in their homes, Trident or none. Trident: 30 billion from the taxpayer to the private sector. Repairs to Rough: 1 billion. ‘National security’ my arse.
@ Paul Barbara
* I can see the US’s F35 sales to Turkey going ‘phat!’, S-400 sales from Russia to Turkey going ahead, and let’s hope, NATO membership being torn up, with strategic treaties between Turkey and Russia..*
I thought you were against armaments sales and strategic treaties? Or are you only against them when America is involved? In short, aren’t you a just a f….ing hypocrite?
How the manufacturers of agricultural chemicals are messing with the crops, our food supply and health. Plus the increase in GM.
Glyphosate-based herbicide impairs female fertility – new study
EU’s top court confirms safety checks needed for new GM Gene drive scientists find CRISPR is imprecise
EU court ruling on “new GM” techniques: The Observer gets it wrong
Stop illegal “new GM” field trials – NGOs to Juncker
Legal action challenges Trump reversal of prohibition on bee-killing pesticides, GM crops on national wildlife refuges
Pathogens can overcome GM virus resistance
GM genes escape into non-GM plant populations
GM fish food intended to prop up unsustainable fish farming
Rats fed GM stacked-trait maize developed leaky stomachs
GMO labelling should apply to highly refined oils, sweeteners, say Unilever, Hershey, Nestle
Indian newspaper makes false claims about EU GMO studies and Séralini study
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https://www.gmwatch.org/en/
Alas we’re already consuming the GM chemicals from food items at the supermarkets.
https://www.gmfreeze.org/feedmethetruth/
Our oncoming trade deal with the US, which also produces GM foods, will see the shelves stacked higher and deeper with the food stuffs.
@ Republicofscotland August 10, 2018 at 15:56
Officially, we are supposedly free of GM Frankenfoods, but GM is allowed for cattle and other livestock feed.
And I suspect GM does get in in GM foods unofficially, like in ‘vegetable oil’, which can include, or be, cotton seed oil.
Sharp Ears
August 10, 2018 at 15:11
Why and How Spain Became the EU’s Top Grower of GMOs
https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/why-and-how-spain-became-the-eus-top-grower-of-gmos
Hannah Arendt has the “Banality of Evil” covered in reporting the Eichmann Trial.
Craig Murray has the “Ubiquity of Evil” well identified.
And his site commentariat has the “Ubiquity of Banality” brilliantly portrayed.
Something about fair and balanced … and the right to express one’s opinion. Not a lot if substance therein remotely connected with Mr. Murray’s thesis worth the loss of time in reading.
You’ve got this website sized-up to a t .
Apparently Mr Murray doesn’t read comments past the first couple of pages. he must share your ideas about not wasting time.
Just as well. He’d just get depressed reading the twaddle posted here under his name and entirely unconnected with his posts.
He does not read the comments beyond the first couple because he is too busy industriously adding blog entries every day or so.
……………………………………. Joke.
…………………………………….. Needless to say.
Have you got a lot of time on your hands or something? What is the point of posting a comment to a blog’s comments section to say you don’t think the comments are worth reading?
As for Hannah Arendt, perhaps she might have got herself some sense if she’d gone out more. Her work is boring pap and the few insights she comes out with are obvious.
I think what we have is a ‘failure of communication’
The comments here have created a beautiful natural rhythm. They have evolved into their own ecosystem and are a home to its bunch of convicts. Cool Hand Luke allusion.
Craig Murrays original article is not forgotten.
For some, of course, the step towards evil is shorter than others. The Daily Kos reveals further details of the role of the new head of the CIA in the extraordinary rendition program:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/8/10/1787262/-New-memos-detail-torture-overseen-by-Gina-Haspel-before-she-became-CIA-director
Cloth has a warp and a weft. Trump’s warp, his main doctrines, are Zionist. His weft is US nationalism. without pandering to these two appalling agenda , no presidency. Whatever else he is , is printed on this material.
Yet the unofficial motto of the CIA, would suggest it’s a paragon of truth.
“And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:32)
@ Republicofscotland August 10, 2018 at 18:21
Not unlike the motto over the gate into Auschwitz: “Arbeit macht frei”.
Or the ‘War on Drugs’ or the ‘War on Terror’ or the ‘Ministry of Justice’ or ‘Defence Department’.
‘Old Nick’ is the Father of Lies; it’s hardly surprising ‘it’s’ acolytes find them irresistible.
Former Tory leader defends Boris Johnson over burqa comments
Iain Duncan Smith says party inquiry should not be launched as comments were free speech
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/10/former-tory-leader-iain-duncan-smith-defends-boris-johnson-over-burqa-comments
ie Failed Tory leader defends blond thug’s outpourings.
Is this proposed Tory ‘inquiry’ the same that ‘inquired’ into the suicide of Elliott Johnson, following the Mark Clarke/Lady Pidding horror story. Everybody was absolved of responsibility for Elliott’s suicide.
Elliott Johnson’s parents say Tories are concealing bullying inquiry findings
One year after the young political activist killed himself, his family ask Tory chairman to reveal circumstances leading up to death
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/15/elliott-johnson-parents-tories-conservatives-bullying-inquiry-findings
The Tory party – The nasty party.
As usual, it’s very difficult from your comments to find out your opinion about anything.
So let’s try re the burqa:
1) should wearing the burqa in public places in the UK be illegal?
2) do you consider Boris Johnson’s comments about wearing the burqa to have been racist in nature/intention and if so, should he be prosecuted?
Looking forward to clear answers, thanks.
Mind your own business. Who do you think you are? The Grand Inquisitor? I have never heard the like of it.
“Mind your own business.” > How childish! (For someone who every other day shares their emails on here, that’s pretty rich stuff.)
“Who do you think you are?” > Seriously impolite.
“Failed Tory leader defends blond thug’s outpourings.” > Do you have something against blondes? Failed etc., at least he’s shooting real bullets, rather more than your hammering away your pet “outpourings” on the keyboard from dawn to well beyond dusk.
SE
It’s the latest addition to the posse.
It’s the new tactic, or rather, an offshoot of the old tactic of concern trolling. Don’t question or address the commenter’s argument, demand that they clarify their position. You aren’t even trying to engage with the commenter in any way – it’s a quick and dirty way arouse subliminal suspicion in the mind of any third parties reading.
The stronger the original comment the more urgent the need to undermine it in this sneaky manner.
The problem is that there was no discernable “argument” in the post I was questioning. I was certainly engaging, in the sense that if the poster had deigned to tell me the essential – ie, told me clearly where she was coming from – I would have re-read her post in a further attempt to understand her “argument”, if any. Hope that helps, Roger, and thank you for your concern.
No. Yes/No.
If it’s a poll?
No
No – he’d guarantee himself leadership and election if he was. It would make him a underdog. You know how we love them.
CarNip
I am a Muslim male and I never think about a burqa unless I pass one in a car or on the street. Why would anybody think twice about a subject that does not concern them? As it happens Boris Johnson spends a lot of time supporting the type of Muslim whose wife wears a burqa, which is why he wants to trivialise the matter , in order to brush away the traces of his own guilt. The Tories have destroyed Libya, destroyed Syria and destroyed Yemen by their Zionist policies against the Middle East.
What are you trying to conceal? Your Zionism? your support for proxy illegal warmongering? or your frustration at not being able to see a lady’s face? As the prime minister says, nobody should try to tell a woman how to dress. Explanations please, otherwise troll off.
As far as I’m concerned, you can be anything you like – a Muslim male, a Buddist female, an Orthodox rabbi an Iranian mullah; I just wish you’d spare us the personal details and provide well-argued and rational posts.
Take a listen/look at George Galloway’s comments on talkRADIO at youtube. His take on the burqa is mighty interesting and informative. Provocative too if you can motivate your reasoning capabilities.
Здравствуйте!
Скажите пожалуйста блондинке как тут к сообщению разместить фото?
Пол часа уже сижу, не пойму как это сделать:(
Well that’s easy for you to say!
They’re asking how to upload photo to avatar, I said ask the mod.
The mod told me how to do it several years ago. I think this website uses gravatar
https://en.gravatar.com/
As regards all this anti- religious bollocks re bin bags or silly hats, it is just a cover story, so that – all you lot for example – and I joined in for a bit – are not taking any real notice of the war crimes currently being commited in for example Yemen, by The British, US, Canadian, and other Western Governments…
They don’t want you to know or see the results of their boming of innocent kids…for that you need (if you have the stomach for it to look elsewhere – like “B”‘s blog – a German man who I also have enormous respect for…)
Meanwhile talk about nothing of any importance amongst yourselves.
They are just kids in Yemen, being destroyed and targetted by our bombs.
The initial image is quite small. I wouldn’t want to offend you.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/08/us-fine-tuning-of-saudi-airstrike-target-list-creates-results.html
http://www.moonofalabama.org/images6/yschoolbus.jpg
Tony
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Sorry Tony. I was laughing at Shatnersrug, not you.
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Nyimbo Za Watoto Wadogo!
Ya buncha Berkeleys’re givn me such a big Cynfia in me bonce wif all yah rabbit that i’m garn ter ‘ave ter Scarpa up the Apple n pears and put the Hansel and Gretel on.
It’s all bubble and squeak to me anywaze
Gawd bless ya
Boys
Is it racist to make fun of a foreign language and script? Please do not put off people from other countries by making fun of thier language. What is the difference between this juvenile joking and what Boris Johnson has said?
George Galloway Rips into the US, UK over the 50 murdered sall children in Yemen.. And over the Murder Baby Bayan, and her Pregnant mother.. And Boris the Horrible gets more Stick over the Burka Slur.
the first 15 mins here –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trz9izOwx6Y
The content of the tweets within this campaign called #BBC Switchoff illustrates the deep distrust and dislike of the state broadcaster’s output. Good to see that a protest like this is growing.
https://www.rt.com/uk/435627-bbc-bias-switchoff-twitter/
RT.com running at item about bias at the BBC.
The irony is making my eyes water.
Did your eyes water when the BBC ran reports on RT.com being biased?
Worryingly for us, the bias of the BBC is obvious to foreigners as well as the locals.
And the BBC had a conversation with itself with Sopel and Doucet on how balanced and fair the BBC is and how everyone else was disseminating fake news.
By the way did you hear from the BBC that Daesh killed over 200 Syrians, mainly Druze and taken a dozen women hostages about 10 days ago whilst the media was salivating to harm Corbyn? Of course this was not really worth mentioning because it didn’t serve a political purpose.
BBC can’t even get simple facts straight nowadays… Just turned over from BBC Breakfast in disgust when they said NSW Australia having the driest summer on record. Well… As it is the southern hemisphere this is their winter! I suppose they think people won’t notice!
well the BBC is UK centric so everyone must be experiencing summer!
Kempe: RT.com running at item about bias at the BBC.
The irony is making my eyes water.
***
Kempe, my friend, I feel your pain. That water in your eyes is a substance known as ‘tears’.
You weep for the Britain you once loved and which now has vanished.
Because once we looked up to our State broadcaster, proud of its gravity and commitment to truth and impartiality, and proud that the downtrodden peoples behind the Iron Curtain would secretly tune into the BBC to hear the truth.
Pravda meant news and Izvestia meant truth we were told, so we used to joke that there was no Pravda in Izvestia, and no Izvestia in Pravda.
How we laughed.
But it all rings hollow now, doesn’t it? Because the most astonishing reversal has taken place. The once mighty BBC has turned into a Poundland Pravda and now it is we, the downtrodden Brits, who are tuning in to the Russian broadcast media to learn the truth.
It’s a funny old world, isn’t it?
Loads of RT links as of late. How can you stand their complete lack of aesthetics? How contrary to all the grand historic buildings in Moscow, St Petersburg etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=673&v=lc5L519Ko8E
I don’t know how Owen sits next to this guy & resits plunging a letter opener into his vital organs. I mean if it’s ok to punch a “nazi” talking. What about those complicit in mass murder.
They are nazis, helping killing brown people because they are seen as inferior. That’s the only reason this goes on, racism. The same old colonialist mindset of racists. Nothing had changed in the British establishment mindset, nothing. Monsters of humanity.
Nothing has* changed.
Amritsar massacre. …..Nothing has changed.
No doubt there is some honest reason why you have decided to reference the Amritsar Massacre and yet ignore so many other massacres that have occurred in India. Here is a small selection of the massacres that are apparently of no interest to you
The 1265 Massacre in South Delhi which likely saw 100,000 Hindus slaughtered
The 1323 Massacre of Srirangam which saw 12,000 Hindus killed
The 1365-1367 Massacres around Vjayanagara which saw the demise of 500,000 Hindus.
The 1398 execution of 100,000 Hindu slaves in the Delhi area.
The 1560 Massacre of Garha that saw 48,000 Hindus put to the sword.
As you say nothing has changed. Not mans fear and loathing and blood lust and not your obsessive interest in some deaths and your complete disinterest in other deaths.
Your deceptive and dissembling interests make very certain that only has nothing changed but that nothing will change. Well done!!
So it’s ok then? ..And what makes you think I’m disinterested in other deaths?
Our establishment helped create a system that makes your stats look tame. And is looking like it’s going to wipe out the only known conscious beings in existence. All of us.
I wouldn’t mind if it was blood lust, revenge etc. Far less dangerous than monsters without a soul. The walking dead. Accumulating bits of paper, acting like superior beings.
Im sure just going along with the merry dance of death & trade will change things, it’s done wonders in the 20th century after all.
got any supporting links? h
Not forgetting the 1971 Bangladesh Genocide:
“During the nine-month-long Bangladesh war for independence, members of the Pakistani military and supporting Islamist militias from Jamaat-e-Islami killed up to 3,000,000 people and raped between 200,000 and 400,000 Bangladeshi women, according to Bangladeshi and Indian sources in a systematic campaign of genocidal rape.” [Wiki]
Really if the Amritsar massacre is the best they can come up with in 200 years of British rule…
And I note, it’s the same racist mindset of the alt-right, As they moan about immigration messing up our pristine superior culture. After we bomb them to shit. Hail capitalism, brush away the dead children’s bodies.
Apologies if this has already been covered but 2000 comments is too much to trawl through.
ICH reports today a remarkable survey of the extent to which dual US/Israeli citizenship penetrates US government with obvious consequences on government policy.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50008.htm
Has anybody any similar data on, for example, the Labour party? Thinking particularly about the bogus antisemitism witchhunt of course.
PS. Still trapped here in 2018.
@ walt king August 10, 2018 at 21:50
Thanks for posting that article – it is extremely important. Other commenters should check it out.
We can be assured that certain ‘usual suspects’ will not touch it with a barge pole!
Wonder how many dual Israeli-British nationals there are in the UK.
More deaths and injuries at the Gaza ‘border’ today sadly.
Paramedic on duty among two killed by Israeli fire in Gaza, 121 more injured
10 Aug 2018 | 18:16 GMT
Two people have been killed in Gaza, including a paramedic on duty, the Palestinian Health Ministry reports. The Palestinian Red Crescent reports that 121 have been injured and that 57 of these were hit by live bullets.
The Palestinian Red Crescent Society (PRCS) told RT it “condemns the killing of the medic Abdullah al-Qatati while on duty today by the Israeli occupation in Rafah.”
“Abdullah volunteered with the Medical Relief Society to provide medical assistance to affected people during the March of Return,” it said.
Qatiti was killed in Rafah in southern Gaza and five other paramedics have been injured. Saeed Aloul was reported dead by the Health Ministry. Journalists Alaa Abdel Fatah and Mahmoud al-Jamal have also been injured, local media reports.
32 people have been treated for tear gas, with eight tear gas canister burns reported by the PRCS.
/..
https://www.rt.com/news/435677-paramedic-killed-gaza-idf/
Any comments?
Not reported by the BBC. Kempe and Observer might be interested to know that fact.
Which brings us back to Mr Curtis
http://markcurtis.info/2018/06/05/the-raw-truth-about-the-uks-special-relationship-with-israel/
A good companion piece to this is from Mr Ethical Nicholas Wilson
http://nicholaswilson.com/hsbc-oil-terrorism-british-government-media-complicity/
Nor did the BBC report the massacre by Daesh in Sweida if iver 200 Druze civilians about 10 days ago.
If the BBC didn’t cover that atrocity I suspect the reason is they know more and more people are aware who these mercenary savages really work for.
Salisbury has become the new place to avoid at all costs https://news.sky.com/story/one-dead-in-explosion-at-salisbury-military-factory-11469693
They’re falling like flies: https://www.rt.com/uk/435692-salisbury-military-factory-explosion/
Meanwhile, on Salisbury’s tourism website, https://www.visitwiltshire.co.uk/salisbury , there still is no tab ‘Things to Avoid’.
They sure are stiff-necked optimists there.
Hmmn I see on page three of the Visit Wiltshire/Salisbury Restaurants guide Zizzi is still recomended.
@ Ecstatic Ex Cop August 10, 2018 at 23:53
It’ll be those peski Russkis again, mark my words!
Chemring Countermeasures discovered today that “delivering global protection” can be deadly.
I’m sure a lot of us are worried about how youtube, Facebook, Google, Twitter etc. handle our information.
I’m a techno-dunce, but some of you will probably find the following of interest:
‘Problem Reaction Solution: Internet Censorship Edition’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=EqC82zmHccU
Corbett is generally on the money, though he has a warped view of Venezuela (which isn’t touched on in above link).
Jacob Rees-Mogg has a piece in the Torygraph entitled “No wonder the Tory establishment is attacking Boris Johnson, his leadership potential terrifies them“. I don’t use the word “establishment” much. Does the definition say you have to be in the Church of England? So JRM and the Duke of Norfolk aren’t in it?
Previously Steven Swinford, the Torygraph’s deputy political editor, quoted JRM as warning that Theresa May was setting Johnson up for a “show trial” over his burqa comments.
At this point, please remember that JRM is head of a party within a party that counts among its members a quarter of the cabinet. Also on a number of occasions his party, the European Research Group, has publicly forced Theresa May to change her line.
“Mr Johnson then went beyond the limits of intolerant liberals and criticised the appearance of the burka. He denied that it adds to the wearer’s pulchritude and did so in a typically forthright way.”
This is like two cartoon characters.
According to JRM, the howls of outrage from within the Tory party are “suspect” and the howlers’ motivations are “dubious”.
“Could it be that there is a nervousness that a once and probably future leadership contender is becoming too popular and needs to be stopped? This may explain the attempt to use the Conservative Party’s disciplinary procedures, but it has been handled so ham-fistedly that it brings only sympathy and support for Mr Johnson.”
Hahaha!!
“Once and probably future”. Unlike you, eh, JRM? You strike once only, and you win. Right?
It wouldn’t surprise me if JRM twisted Boris Johnson’s arm (or whatever the Old Etonian custom is) until he wrote the burqa article. He may also force Boris to help bring down Theresa May and then force him out of the leadership race in favour of himself.
“It would be absurd to call his words either victimising or harassing. Criticising a type of garment but defending the right of people to wear it is self-evidently neither. Perhaps the complaint ought to be the other way round.”
He means against other senior Tories for misusing the Tory party’s code of conduct. JRM is clearly up to tricks.
“Unfortunately, both the chairman, Brandon Lewis, and the leader, Theresa May, have prejudged the issue by calling for Boris to apologise, which is arguably a breach of the Code itself. No fair system allows a critic to turn into both prosecutor and judge, so the chairman has embarrassingly had to stand aside and the leader must also excuse herself from any role in this inquiry.”
“Attacking Boris merely helps the Opposition. It is time for good sense to assert itself, free speech to be encouraged and, as the summer rain falls, for hot-headed action to be cooled down.”
He is positioning himself as the man who can unify the party to beat Labour.
Batty, These people are batty.
But then 99% of the tory party and …At least 60% ? Of the rest should be confined for high risk to public safety.
Politicians are generally nuts imo. Fruit loops.
Can he really be so un-self-aware? I can see BoJo the Clown running winning an election by turning it into an episode of Britain’s Got Talent. He has Corbyn licked on charisma that’s for sure. But Rees-Mogg makes Gove look like George Clooney. He hasn’t a hope of winning a GE.
Or am I underestimating him? Or overestimating the UK public?
Sorry I can’t answer your question, the notions are triggering spasms in my brain.
BoJo is delusional thinking he is some sort of Churchill like figure, whereas he is a clown
You reduce the danger they represent by calling them batty.
This is calculated. Steve Bannon met both mogg and johnson in the last fortnight. They are working together to a calculated strategy, the same one bannon employed to rally the far right to trump.
It sounds insane to you. It sounds reasonable to the #freetommy crowd, and that is who he is talking to. People make the exact same mistake with trump. Banging on about how idiotic he sounds, that is because he is not speaking to me or you, he is speaking to those who put him where he is, and they are limited information voters who do believe what he says.
Johnson is simply going for broke at becoming a post brexit PM.
But they are.
Misrepresent? on the contrary.
Why should a bad tabloid journalist/father, who didnt cut the mustard in schools he was sent to, bamboozle us into believing that his offensive tabloidal excretions, generalisations aimed at the opposite sex he so obviously has a problem with, be a good candidate for no hopers and selfserving vested interests, hallo jim Radcliffe, to be their chosen one….
Democracy does.not exist anymore unless it covers voters wishes, not that of the bias broadcasting corp. Or vested interests but our concernz, not that of political parties or tabloid rags.
Is it time go take back control or does this mean bending over for a blond pig in a wig?
Before this, your world view was what? All civil servants were saints?
Anyway, never mind.
I still want signed copies of Orangemen and Murder in Samarkand, please.
Aside, most people I’ve met don’t like Jews, and often compare Israel to Germany. It’s not anti-semitic, just foolish.
I am a Zionist. Israel belongs to its people.
One summer, camping in Israel, I met the kindest people on earth.
Israel is threatened by all/most neighbouring countries from time to time. It’s not a perfect country,
Well, enough of my rambling for today!
I take it you mean nazi Germany.
How can land belong to anyone? It’s always an arbitrary claim based on made up notions of ownership.
& no, thats just the fear PR, like Germany did, like US/UK does. To justify actual intervention/invasions in other nations.
“One summer, camping in Israel, I met the kindest people on earth.”
leaving aside the absurd levels of delusion one must have about their own experience to make such a remark, about any group of people…The notion of collective identity is a joke. A Religious, fundamentalist, persecuting pathetic ideology, of a type “developed” to the nth degree by nazi Germany.
One assumes they’re not the people killing children, enacting a siege on a helpless population, Or furthering an apartheid state. Or well adjusted to it.
Myself I think animals put most humans to shame. Just kill for food, honest etc, not sick and twisted in the head.
Just came across this and felt it very apt.
WHAT HAPPENED TO ME?
I used to think I was just a normal person, but I was born white,
which now, whether I like it or not, makes me a racist.
I am a fiscal and moral conservative, which by today’s standards,
makes me a fascist.
I am heterosexual, which now makes me a homophobe.
I am non-union, which makes me a traitor to the working class and an ally of big business.
I was christened by my parents (who were married, in a church and
remained married until they died), which now labels me as an infidel.
I am older than 65 and retired, which makes me useless.
I think and I reason, therefore I doubt much that the main stream
media tells me, which must make me a reactionary.
I am proud of my heritage which makes me a xenophobe.
I value my safety and that of my family and I appreciate the police
and the legal system, which makes me a right-wing extremist.
I believe in hard work, fair play, and fair compensation according to
each individual’s merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist.
I believe in the defense and protection of the Country for and by all
citizens, and I honor those who served in the Armed Forces, which now
makes me a right wing-militant.
Funny but it’s all just taken place over the last 7 or 8 years!
Finally, as if all this nonsense wasn’t enough to deal with now I’m
not even sure which bathroom to go into.
i whine loudly whenever my nasty reactionary views are challenged and get called a ludicrous, self pitying bedwetter..
PC gone mad. Fake morals pushed by fake ideologists taking money. You left out the Dark Green side: “you are one of the worst polluters on the Planet and should cough up money to pay for the poor Chinese modifying their massive industry dumping their produce under CPC rule to reach world monopoly”.
Well “white” is an arbitrary racist notion.
Sounds like a free market zealot, proud of mass slavery & believes people merit death who don’t sell themselves to a system maintained by violence & a legal system created to maintain inequality & the abuse of poverty for profit. While honouring the mercenaries in uniform killing sprees to procure more recourse from our dying planet so few can maintain control via institutions sold to us as “service”.
Maybe one day this guy will have some freedom. & then won’t worry so much who pisses where. But sounds like the sort who will fight for their spoon fed fantasy to the end.
So it made you spit your usual feathers. Lighten up for God’s sake it was just meant as a joke. Perhaps your sense of humour has been genetically removed.
DV
It would be extremely difficult to genetically remove an acquired character.
You may be making a point with your post but my suspicion is that race and religion are now used as diversion from the real issue which is that the real division is economical. Chinese, Russian, British and US billionaires have much more in common with each other than with ordinary people in their countrimen. There is a definite hierarchy of the haves and have nots.
That I respond as I do is none of your business.
And how you narrowly typecast me via a verity of intentations behind words I write …. Is yours..
Sounded like a typical Brightbart/PJW set of talking points.
& Though duly mocked (as anyone is welcome)…There are people out there who take this stuff seriously.
I thought it was an ok summation to those who do.
Interesting that you believe the verses represent humour. I’m convinced otherwise. I think they’re intended to send out a very different message which isn’t remotely funny.
“Defense” “bathroom” and “honor”. That makes you American.
Perhaps the author was American but I’m not.
Yup you definitely didn’t find the toilet and shat yourself here in a public space.
Wtf have you been eating dude? That is a lot of ugly crap.
Better get a nurse.
Damned funny though 😉
To whoever wrote what David Venables quoted;
– “WHAT HAPPENED TO ME?”
You got the channel names muddled up on your TV set.
You believe in the defense of the country and its security?
Wipe your eyes you have no energy security and the aspirational goals of a saleman with ambitions, Gavin Williamson, will not provide it either.
Your little list co.es out of thd mind of a priviliged person. Nevertheless thanks for sharing your dreams, something did happen to you.
Rather late in the day, Jim Murphy, former Blairite Minister for Europe and Chair of Labour Friends of Israel, joins in the attack on Jeremy Corbyn.
Ex-Scottish Labour leader Jim Murphy launches scathing attack on Jeremy Corbyn
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/ex-scottish-labour-leader-jim-murphy-launches-scathing-attack-on-jeremy-corbyn-1-4782079
What a charmer. His Tweet:
Jim Murphy
@glasgowmurphy
I’ve paid for a full-page ad in this week’s J.wish Telegraph. It’s an apology to the J.wish Community about the actions of the Labour Party’s leadership. JM
1:09 PM – Aug 10, 2018
This matter was being given full welly on the Sky News paper review just now, needless to say. The attack to undermine Corbyn is concerted.
from Sharp Ears, not Rather Sharp Ears!
Craig:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/11/open-letter-to-president-ahtisaari-re-jim-murphy/
November 2015
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/05/tories-back-jim-murphy/
May 2015
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/12/jim-murphy-torture-aplogist/
December 2014
et al. Thank goodness for Craig who tells it like it is.
Ex-Scottish Labour leader, that may be because he has few friends left in Scotland. He probably has few friends in that other country as well, only those that use him for their own purposes.
@ Sharp Ears August 11, 2018 at 05:49
Going through the comments on the Scotsman article, Jim Murphy is (or was) high up in the Henry Jackson Society.
What was a Neoconservative doing as Labour Shadow Defence Secretary? Better ask Bliar!
https://henryjacksonsociety.org/2012/07/09/announcing-hjs-academic-political-policy-councils/
This is the kind of back-stabbing war mongering wretch that Bliar made his Shadow Defence Secretary.
Now he’s blown out in Scotland, perhaps the IDF will take him on?
I have added my tuppence worth to the Scotsman comments; I hope others among you do, too.
Chemring.
Chemring under criminal investigation by UK fraud office
Inquiry includes subsidiary and employees at weapons and defence systems manufacturer
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/18/weapons-company-chemring-facing-sfo-corruption-probe
Explosion at Salisbury military hardware factory kills one
Police said another man is badly injured after incident at Chemring Countermeasures
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/10/explosion-at-salisbury-military-hardware-factory-kills-one
‘Military hardware factory’. That’s a good one!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemring_Group. See ‘Controversy’.
I notice that Chemring have produced CS gas which was used against demonstrators for democracy in Egypt.
I wonder what other chemicals they might be playing around with at Chemring?
the serious Farce office is where they send easily provable criminality to be buried and forgotten.
It is the ‘legal’ version of the memory hole.
Sharp Ears
August 11, 2018 at 06:26
Chemring.
Did you ever see the film Lord of war starring Nicolas Cage?
“Sacred cows”
That’s what John Humphries is discussing this just now. I wonder whether they will come to the big sacred elephants in the room that have been constructed to defend a certain democratic country.