I have been gently chided for not giving my reactions to the SNP conference, which I attended as a delegate.
Nicola’s major speech was very good. The media universally attempted to characterise it as kicking a new Independence referendum into the long grass. I did not hear it that way at all. I think they are clutching at the straw of her single mention of patience and perseverance, against the fact she used the word “Independent” or “Independence” an extraordinary 31 times in her speech. Of course she wishes to retain flexibility and an element of surprise, but as someone who has studied the matter extremely closely and who distrusts the highly paid SNP professional “elite” on this issue, I was reassured as to Nicola’s intentions.
The members are in extremely good heart and very confident. I was personally much touched by the many scores of individuals who bothered to come up to me and say they followed the blog. The conference agenda was somewhat bland, though fizzing with righteous anger at the effects of austerity on the vulnerable. My major criticism would be that far too high a percentage of total speaking time on the conference floor is given to MP’s, MSP’s and MEP’s. Constituency proposed motions, for example, were too often used as a showcase for the MP/MSP rather than introduced by an ordinary party member.
I dislike the political class now attached to the SNP in just the same way that I distrust the professional political class in every political party. The horrible Alex Bell should be a serious warning of the kind of false hypocrites that a salary will attract “to the cause”. Seeing MPs I knew as just punters campaigning in 2014, now walking proudly before power dressed entourages of paid staff, was a strangely unpleasant experience.
My major concern is that the SNP’s foreign policy and defence teams at Westminster appear to have been entirely captured by the UK establishment and indeed the security services. They have been willing and instant amplifiers of the Tories’ Russophobia.
It appears to me truly remarkable that I was not allowed to hire a room for a fringe meeting on Independence campaigning, but that the “Westminster Foundation for Democracy” – which is an FCO front and 90% FCO and DFID funded – was allowed a room on the fringe to hold this anti-Russian propaganda fest with a Ukrainian MP imported by the FCO.
Furthermore the meeting was co-hosted by the SNP and “Westminster Foundation for Democracy” and featured two SNP MPs.
I took issue with two other senior SNP figures last month over the party’s slavish devotion to what the UK intelligence services tell them.
The problem here is of course that the SNP is accepting a UK-centric vision of the world. This is a fundamental error, a category mistake. Because Russia is in an antagonistic relationship with the UK does not mean Russia should or will have an antagonistic relationship to an Independent Scotland.
Whatever happened in Salisbury, the root cause was spy games between Russia and the UK. Precisely the kind of spy games an independent Scotland must have no part of.
MI6 recruited Sergei Skripal as a traitor to Russia, who for money revealed secrets of his nation to MI6, including identities of agents. That is the root of the Salisbury events, and it is not the sort of thing an Independent Scotland will be doing. If an Independent Scotland is just going to behave like the UK in foreign affairs, carrying on neo-con foreign policy by illegitimate methods, I see no point in Scotland being independent. The Skripal affair, whatever really happened, is part of an entire system which most people in the Yes movement wish to get out of. We do not see the UK’s enemies as our enemies.
But the UK security services are our enemies. Scottish nationalism is defined in security service tasking as a threat to the UK and we are targets of the UK security services. The British government is not going to agree to another Independence referendum and we are going to have to win Independence, like the Catalans, in the teeth of every dirty abuse of British state power.
I would feel very much better if the SNP leaders, like Chris Law and John Nicholson both of whom I count as friends, would sometimes draw a deep breath, forget what they imbibed as Westminster MPs, and remember which side they are on.
I welcome your insight Craig,don’t always agree but you deserve respect for a forthright analysis!!
Craig, if you have time, challenge the SNP on their scallop dredging policy and their stance on kelp dredging. The latter I think they have pulled back on but they still permit scallop dredging within the three mile limit. This was allowed by Thatcher in the 80’s and is an abomination.
Exactly, shugsrug, and also ask the SNP about the whisky industry. When prominent whisky industry people are saying the industry is “neither Scottish nor a success”, why are the SNP reluctant to discuss?
That said, dredging is is a firm two fingers to future generations. Nothing short of a complete ban is lunacy.
What does that mean? “neither Scottish nor a success “. Whisky can never be anything other than Scottish.
Wiski distillers, to a great part are using best Norfolk Barley to make their spirits.
The English wiski companhy in Larling/Norfolk as well as the beer brewer Adnams in Suffolk are now using our world renown products here and making some fine wiski in England, the laird of the crossach estate much enjoyed it.
Just for information…
Largely foreign owned which is where the profits go.
Just like the oil and gas.
If the SNP have not given their supporters an indyref2 before the next Scottish and UK elections they won’t be in any position to do it afterwards. They were shown the support that was available in 2015 after the NO electorate woke up to the lies and cheating of Westminster.
When Brexit happened they used it as a shield to hide behind instead of declaring UDI. The voters were not so slow and have been dispatching them at every opportunity since.
‘But the UK security services are our enemies.’ They are also the enemies of every man, woman and child across the entire UK other than the Establishment and its footmen.
You missed out the rest of the world, Ruth. For example, the children (and adults – they hurt and die too) of Yemen would be safer if the UK did not exist.
I don’t blame anybody in Scotland for wanting independence, If I lived there I would almost certainly want it too, but this has way too much of “meet the new boss same as the old boss” for me to think the outcome is going to be good.
The SNP whilst it has some obviously genuine MP’s it also has a tremendous affinity with the Neo-liberal agenda.
I know that nobody is going to move you, Craig from your present course, and given that the Scottish people have been methodically screwed for many years by the English establishment I cant say I blame you.
Remember Barack Obama was going to be so different, and all that happened was that he made good jokes and smiled a lot and carried on with pretty much the same Foreign policy.
I am rambling to no particular point except maybe that, if you have misgivings I would heed those voices, the SNP is just as capable of becoming nu Labour as Labour was, and shows signs of doing so
The proportionate electoral system protects against that. It would’ve at Westminster too, if we’d had such a voting system.
Personally, I don’t really give a damn what the SNP say about Russia or anything. They seem to really believe that we vote for them because they are good at managing Scotland (the day job, as its called) or something which is nothing short of delusional. We vote for them as a vehicle for independence, nothing else.
The real concern is that Sturgeon will blow the mandate for indyref2. She’s been carried along by May’s timing on everything and too cautious to object in any meaningful way. It’s been embarassing to watch.
In a nutshell, here is the likely scenario that Scotland and the Indy movement faces because of Sturgeon and her team of opinion poll watching cowards;
1) May will secure a deal with the EU that will have some sort of transitional arrangement at its core along the lines of keeping us in the single market for say 3 years, effectively kicking Ireland and everything into the long grass.
2) Sturgeon will then allow herself to be bullied by the media into waiting another 3 years before pressing for a referendum — “wait and see how the Brexit negotiations pan out” — by which time the mandate she has will have expired and the opportunity we have now will be lost.
All of this derives from the analysis that losing 20 or so MPs in the 2017 General Election reflected a loss of appetite for independence in Scotland. Utter junk. The truth is that the SNP did everything they could in the run up to that election to avoid even discussing independence. The loss of MPs was down to that, down to Sturgeons stupidity in not campaigning for independence in that General Election, nothing else.
Now, on the basis of all this bullshit and these huge errors, there’s a good chance Scotland will lose the opportunity and mandate it has today. She responded to one huge blunder with another. I’m about 98% certain that this is how it will pan out and it’s on that basis that I’ve almost stopped caring.
As for worrying that we will get the Catalonia treatment, I fucking dare them. And I’d like to see how the markets react to a constitutional crisis along those destabilising lines in the middle of the Brexit negotiations. The Scottish people take a lot of shit from the UK government but let it be understood that there’s a line — cross that line and all bets are off.
“They seem to really believe that we vote for them because they are good at managing Scotland (the day job, as its called) or something which is nothing short of delusional. We vote for them as a vehicle for independence, nothing else”.
And then, when independence has been gained, who will govern Scotland? Some bright new angelic faces who suddenly materialise from nowhere?
I very much fear that you, like Craig, are indulging in very understandable but nevertheless unrealistic fantasies. You are in the very best of company there, of course: Plato and Jefferson, to name a couple of admirable dreamers.
This tends to be the dividing line between (lower-case) conservatives and radicals/liberals/socialists. The former believe, reluctantly, that human nature does not change much from millennium to millennium, and that therefore the art of politics is preventing them from doing any more harm than avoidable.
Whereas the latter are always making castles in the clouds, based upon a hoped-for but vanishingly unlikely transmutation of human nature.
Whenever I get too carried away by such dreams, I repeat to myself the following mantra: “My name is Tom, and I am an ape. A fairly intelligent ape in some ways, who has learned a variety of tricks, and wears clothing instead of hair – but still an ape, with the instincts and limitations of that family. I continually try to behave well and intelligently, but I understand that I will never become an angel no matter how hard I try”.
Dreaming.
It seems to me that’s what we’re here for.
The only part of that I don’t disagree with is the ape part.
I guess according to your standards everybody and anybody who wants their country to be democratic and independent is some sort of retarded idealist who lacks realism. That view puts you at odds with about 99% of the planet.
For the record, I don’t regard myself as a socialist, a radical, or an idealist. I actually quite like capitalism although I condemn the cheating and abuses that seem to characterise it these days. And when Scotland achieves independence, I will gladly never discuss politics again and go back to focusing on the natural world which is altogether much more pleasant.
There’s a danger that Scottish independence will become as much ideological extremism, as Brexit has become. If, as seems, an ideological hard Brexit takes place, then the argument for Scottish independence will have been made. Whatever the SNP is currently saying is of little importance.
That’s probably true. Nicola wants the case for independence to make itself.
The fact Ruth Davidson keeps pressing for the SNP to explicitly rule out another referendum, just reveals the Tories fear the case for independence could make itself.
Goose, I suspect Ruth Davidson keeps pressing the SNP on independence because she’s nothing else to say. Have you ever heard Ruth say anything original or profound?
It’s like NI, I suppose. They replay the same tired old dialectics, day in day out, and all the while doing nothing much about anything in the real world.
I mean they’ve been in suspension for the past year or so and things just go on as they are. Like they’re irrelevant to real life.
Anyway, there was the Gay Cake row in NI:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45789759
Basically: Bakers do not bake cake with political slogan they disagree with. They didn’t discriminate against the customer because he himself is gay.
It’s an important distinction the SC has made here. Overturning two lower courts.
The DUP were happy with this sensible decision, and SF and the Equality industry in NI are whining about it, but in London, even Peter Tatchell appeared on msm defending the decision of the SC There were articles in the New Statesman and in the Alt Left about how this decision was OK.
What this means is that there is to be no organized opposition to this SC decision.
Not an issue.
An example of DUP soft-power diplomacy, and SF and fellow globalists well out of the loop.
a baker can refuse to write certain things on a cake? bring out the flutes and the lambeg.
Herbie: You’re right about Sinn Fein: they are a pathetic joke – universally despised by all outside their own robotic group-think support base. Adams took over Sinn Fein in the late 70s and early 80s on the stated basis that the previous mostly southern Irish leadership’s de-centralisation federalist policy (Eire Nua) was too moderate and a “sop to Unionism”. Turns out within a few years he and his cohorts had ignominiously surrendered every core principle, not just of Irish republicanism, but even of peaceful Irish constitutional nationalism of the type previously espoused by Fianna Fail in the south and the SDLP in the north. Now all that’s left for the Shinners is to hawk globalist ID politics on behalf of oligarchs like Chuck Feeney – the Irish American version of Soros.
Having said that, the implication of your comment seems to be that the DUP are noble warriors on behalf of anti-globalisation, and such a claim does not withstand much scrutiny. The DUP have slavishly supported every globalist war of the Blairites/Cameroons since 9/11. The late Ian Paisley Sr. made an impassioned speech on behalf of the Iraq invasion in the Commons debate on that disastrous venture.
“Herbie: You’re right about Sinn Fein: they are a pathetic joke – universally despised by all outside their own robotic group-think support base. Adams took over Sinn Fein in the late 70s and early 80s on the stated basis that the previous mostly southern Irish leadership’s de-centralisation federalist policy (Eire Nua) was too moderate and a “sop to Unionism”. Turns out within a few years he and his cohorts had ignominiously surrendered every core principle, not just of Irish republicanism, but even of peaceful Irish constitutional nationalism of the type previously espoused by Fianna Fail in the south and the SDLP in the north. Now all that’s left for the Shinners is to hawk globalist ID politics on behalf of oligarchs like Chuck Feeney – the Irish American version of Soros.”
They’re Globalists, and always have been.
The NI conflict wasn’t so much a fight, as a managing away of Unionist state power in NI.
“Having said that, the implication of your comment seems to be that the DUP are noble warriors on behalf of anti-globalisation,”
No. I don’t support any of these.
They’re simply useful to keep a lid on some of the more outrageous social programmes that Globalists are so fond of.
” and such a claim does not withstand much scrutiny. The DUP have slavishly supported every globalist war of the Blairites/Cameroons since 9/11. The late Ian Paisley Sr. made an impassioned speech on behalf of the Iraq invasion in the Commons debate on that disastrous venture.”
Sure. But the major crime in the eyes of his supporters ought to be the part he played in ensuring the end of Unionist state power in NI.
Zoot
“a baker can refuse to write certain things on a cake? bring out the flutes and the lambeg.”
Two lower courts ruled that the baker could not refuse, and but for financial support from a Christian group, the case would have been lost.
It was interesting the way Gay campaigners in London, and media, made such a point of coming out to support the SC overturning what the Gay campaign in NI, and The Equality Commission were fighting for.
It’s kinda curious. Is there some sort of split between the Gay leadership in London and this Gay campaign in NI, supported by The Equality Commission, a statutory body. I doubt it.
And then you’ve got the DUP who all along supported the bakers, in partnership with the current British govt.
Herbie: ***The major crime in the eyes of his supporters ought to be the part he played in ensuring the end of Unionist state power in Northern Ireland***
“In the eyes of his supporters”? What about in your eyes? Do you think the (alleged) end of Unionist state power in Northern Ireland was a “major crime”? The DUP may be relatively conservative on social issues, but there is nothing small c conservative or anti-globalist about Orangeist Unionism per se – quite the reverse. Indeed in southern Ireland, support for the Unionist cause and rabid social liberalism/globallism/liberal interventionism usually go together. The so called Glorious Revolution, which Orangeists exalt, was just that, a Revolution – and a very pivotal one at that (one could also call it a Dutch Huguenot invasion of Britain and Ireland). Indeed the late Peterhouse history don, Maurice Cowling believed that Edmund Burke and the subsequent generations of conservatives who made his historical views their own, vastly exaggerated the importance of the French Revolution, and minimised the importance of the revolutions that shook Britain in the 17th century. Self-professed Catholic traditionalists (often in my experience romantic Anglophiles of a very ardent variety) still play this evasive game today: they can’t bring themselves to admit that monarchist Britain has played a much more decisive role in the destruction of tradition (and indeed Catholicism) and the rise of globalism than republican France ever did.
When you say “they [Sinn Fein] were always globalists”, I’m not sure if you’re including pre-Adams Provisional Sinn Fein. If so you’re wrong. Although I always believed their campaign of violence was ill-judged and counter-productive, there is no way Ruairi O’Bradaigh’s Sinn Fein could be called globalists. On the contrary they favoured decentralisation of power and strongly opposed the Common Market, NATO, free trade etc.
“Herbie: ***The major crime in the eyes of his supporters ought to be the part he played in ensuring the end of Unionist state power in Northern Ireland***
“In the eyes of his supporters”? What about in your eyes? Do you think the (alleged) end of Unionist state power in Northern Ireland was a “major crime”?”
There’s nothing alleged about it. The Unionist people have no effective control over the more important elements of the NI state apparatus.
I don’t see it as a major crime but I’d expect Unionists to see it so. But like everyone else, over time, you get adjusted to the new arrangement.
What’s clear though is that ordinary Unionists didn’t quite understand what they were fighting against. They were a bit too local in their thinking, and didn’t grasp for quite some time that they were actually fighting the whole western world. Then there was the hand-holding phase. MSM basically providing their PR. They were making such tits of themselves. No idea of the Overton window and what was acceptable and what not. How to finesse your arguments to appeal to the 60s generation.
You’ll see the same thing amongst whites from Zim and SA.
They’re not bad people, but they’ve been indoctrinated, used and discarded. And they haven’t a clue what’s going on. What was up is down. What was right is wrong. And they tend to be a bit literal and binary in their thinking and fail to see dynamics, emergence and change.
“The DUP may be relatively conservative on social issues, but there is nothing small c conservative or anti-globalist about Orangeist Unionism per se – quite the reverse. Indeed in southern Ireland, support for the Unionist cause and rabid social liberalism/globallism/liberal interventionism usually go together. The so called Glorious Revolution, which Orangeists exalt, was just that, a Revolution – and a very pivotal one at that (one could also call it a Dutch Huguenot invasion of Britain and Ireland).”
Yes, I’ve mentioned this before. 1694, the Glorious Revolution, The Bank, The East India Company, The British Empire, is the culmination of something that began with Henry VIII, or rather, his elder brother, Arthur, and Aragon, down Ludlow Castle way in 1502. That’s nearly two centuries to effect the revolution.
They’re quite determined, and will use Time, eons of Time, to wear down even the toughest of opponents.
“Indeed the late Peterhouse history don, Maurice Cowling believed that Edmund Burke and the subsequent generations of conservatives who made his historical views their own, vastly exaggerated the importance of the French Revolution, and minimised the importance of the revolutions that shook Britain in the 17th century.”
That’s interesting. Anything more on this. Between that and his “falling out” with Tom Paine, we could be looking at poor old Burke being caught out in having to hold to contradictory positions across differing areas of British policy.
“Self-professed Catholic traditionalists (often in my experience romantic Anglophiles of a very ardent variety) still play this evasive game today: they can’t bring themselves to admit that monarchist Britain has played a much more decisive role in the destruction of tradition (and indeed Catholicism) and the rise of globalism than republican France ever did.”
That’s because the narratives aren’t clear and the terminology imprecise.
“When you say “they [Sinn Fein] were always globalists”, I’m not sure if you’re including pre-Adams Provisional Sinn Fein. If so you’re wrong. Although I always believed their campaign of violence was ill-judged and counter-productive, there is no way Ruairi O’Bradaigh’s Sinn Fein could be called globalists. On the contrary they favoured decentralisation of power and strongly opposed the Common Market, NATO, free trade etc”
That’s simply a transitional phase. They had to appeal to Catholics in the North against OSF and the Nationalist parties. That done, they mop up the left vote. But they always return to mean. Globalism. They’re Internationalists. Discourse is just a means to an end, the principle hidden. Granted, they were much more Nationalist in early 19C , but all those trips to Amerikay seemed to change the plan.
You know, Ireland is a bit of a poster-boy for Globalism, going back to Irish independence, up thru Dev and The Peace Process, and today in its recent socially liberal turn.
Like it’s a performing monkey.
But yeah, maybe better to be a poster-boy for elites than one of those rogue states that gets blown to kingdom come.
It’s that kinda world.
You fail to perceive that 80% of the electorate are not interested in profundity.
How many church sermons have ever been profound? Few. They take a verse or two and waffle on a bit. It goes down well….
Few people are interested in philosophy, in the complexities of climate, in processes lasting centuries or millennia.
Politicians know this….
Yes – Look , a Squirrel !!!
There is no point in having a discussion about Scottish Independence – cos one guy – Iain in the comments earlier today posted this which I completely agree with –
“The neo-connery is coming from the very top I’m afraid Craig. All the careerists are merely aping the leader – just as their Nu Labour counterparts did. Mini Hillary has not only “gone for” Putin in recent months she has also paid homage to Kissinger and Red Hands McCain. She would have Scotland right in the front row of future NATO wars, arms linked with the maddest of the mad.”
However, this blog is a very valuable independent source, and I hope Craig Murray continues to have the courage, energy, determination, help and resources to keep it going.
So in no particular order, because it is October, I am thinking about who I am going to nominate for best independent journalist / writer in 2018
Caitlin Johnstone (Australian), Eva Bartlett (Canada), Bernhard Horstmann (German), John Ward (English), The Saker (Swiss), Thierry Meyssan(French), Off-Guardian (Our small group is dispersed globally, with representatives from North America, Britain, and Southern and Eastern Europe. The site is our own work, and is not supported by any governments, institutions or pressure groups), Craig Murray (English (Dad born in Scotland but his Mum is English), Vanessa Beeley (British – Her Dad was posh – but she is gorgeous) ,Dmitry Orlov)Russian( He is a bit of a Doomster, but he does write Brilliantly and also likes sailing – Good Effort from The Russians but cheer up a bit FFS) , Paul Craig Roberts (American)
There are loads of other people, who are very well worth reading, and I have just bought another book Jo (English). She never said she was a writer, but now I know she is.
“Paperback Writer”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYvkICbTZIQ
Tony
MP John Nicolson: “Most disturbing that you believe Putin’s absurd propaganda on the Salisbury attack,,,,”
Absurd propaganda? When Russia refuses to comment?
(Putin’s unofficially encouraging the two travelers to appear publicly could impossibly qualify)
Probably a star example of one of those thousands of comments in which the words only are intended to sound right – zero thought whatsoever given to their meaning.
A little like dogs wagging the tail when approaching other dogs?
We don’t work for anyone. We are Retired, but UNISON keeps sending me the magazines, and keeps telling me, I am still a member of UNISON. I think that is quite sweet but I have not contributed any money to UNISON – nor ASTMS, since I got promoted to the Management Union, and I didn’t join nor pay that Union anything either. They paid me.
UNISON were absolutely brilliant in 1985, when one of my staff, got fired (completely unfairly and completely against my will)
There was a big court case about it in Central London – and they were all wigged.
I was still working for the company, and I didn’t want to get fired either.
It was as if I was piggy in the middle.
I had to give witness evidence live under interrogation from both the prosecution and the defence.
I simply told the truth.
He lost his job, but did get another and got no compensation. He lost the court case.
Meanwhile the very Senior managers in the company I was working for, wanted some answers, about why the company was spending excessive amounts of money, provoking, and then defending extremely expensive court cases.
They fired both my boss, and his boss, and took me back on full pay after 6 months leave..and then promoted me.
Personally, I thought that was a result.
Just Tell The Truth. It worked for me.
The are still paying my pension.
If I’d lied, I would have got fired.
Tony
Craig, you write “The Skripal affair … is part of an entire system which most people in the Yes movement wish to get out of. We do not see the UK’s enemies as our enemies.”
That’s all very fine, but the UK’s enemies, or someone else, may yet be inimical to you. To quote Julien Freud:
“C’est l’ennemi qui vous désigne. Et s’il veut que vous soyez son ennemi, vous pouvez lui faire les plus belles protestations d’amitiés. Du moment qu’il veut que vous soyez son ennemi, vous l’êtes.”
Make that “Freund!”
why would russia want scotland as an enemy? any theories?
Where???
A few more ‘drips’ of random Skripal/Steele information, written almost in that David Bowie style of putting words into a bag and randomly drawing them out. The article sets off in so-many directions, throws names around, yet is patently wrong – due at least the Pablo Miller DA- notice, DASM- notice, not even a hint of the Steele/Pablo or Pablo/Skripal connections, never mind the tank regiment & hamish & beeb’s urban.
However, to my focus, it is almost the FIRST UK article to mention Skripal and Steele in the same paragraph, on the same page, [1], even the demised Glushkov gets a mention.
A long-time brit resident, who sometimes appears on chatty breakfast ITV sofas, ex Latvian KGB source “Boris Karpichkov” is mentioned. Boris has form for accuracy , claiming years ago that Dr. David Kelly was murdered by MI6?, he actually quoted MI5’s ‘opposition’ as doing the deed, with special branch soco laying things out[2]; (Dr Kelly’s obvious murder is still a subject that is so taboo that an LBC caller mentioning the Kelly murder last week – was instantly dropped by the tennis-star DJ, MI5 gatekeeper failure)
So why let previously right Boris K. near today’s Sunday Mirror with at least half an accurate story? Obviously there’s the same Psyop repetition of ‘evil Putin’ meme, but Steele is new, more please!
[1] https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vladimir-putin-ordered-novichok-assassin-13412653
[2] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297444/KGB-agent-Boris-Karpichkovs-claim-David-Kelly-exterminated-faces-probe.html
On psyops, perhaps they have already started this:
Britain to create massive cyber warfare unit with 2,000 personnel
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/09/21/574747/Britain-cyber-warfare-force-expansion
I’m all in favour of job creation! It will improve resilience, if they can do defence and not just offence.
In the last decade the U.S.A. was simply recycling rif’ed sailors into their cyberforce. This incidentally is now so large that it’s likely to de-merge from the N.S.A. in the future.
The other-half of the Steele/Skripal story that still has not yet emerged in our local media, is the pivotal launch of the SIGINT attack on the candidate Trump, under false pretences. More here, still developing!
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/12/george-papadopoulos-testify-congress/
(Papadopoulos has recently mentioned the saintly mildly porcine ex-Prime-Minister Rt.Hon David Cameron, somehow involved?, and to add further madness Papadopoulos’s gorgeous wife continues to deny that she is a Russki sleeper agent) it’s all going to make a great movie on Netflix.
It is all about convincing the British that they can defend themselves.
The Russians know they can’t…..
@ Sir Humphrey Appleby, c. 1985
As a fairly impartial observer it seems like the SNP has lost its spirit somewhat. This appeared to be so before the last election and seemed the case in a major speech at the conference by someone who used to really have a lot of righteous indignation at injustices, and was effective in a large part because of that
What precisely is the cause of this malaise or enfeebling of SNP is best left to others to ascertain, but it is quite sad to see a party that once seemed so vibrant (whether you agree or not) suddenly start to appear lost, and be going through the motions rather than driven by conviction as they once were….
Yet another YCNMIU.
Citizen journalists – the fighters on the frontline against Russia’s attacks
Carole Cadwalladr
We can no longer count on our governments to protect us from a tide of disinformation. Our security rests in the hands of open source intelligence, as pioneered by Bellingcat
@carolecadwalla
Sat 13 Oct 2018 19.00 BST
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/oct/13/citizen-journalists-open-source-investigation-bellingcat
What she is really saying = “We can no longer depend on state propaganda, we need Soros/US gov funded-intelligence-peddling-psyop groups like bellingcat.to brainwash westerners even more to quell any dissent”
These people are mental, they have their enemy now – Russia so everything in the toolbox is off from here it seems.
As pointed out on the Lifeboat News Messageboard, Bellingcat did NOT pioneer open source intelligence. Try Assange and Wikileaks Cad-Walla-Dr.
http://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/msg/1539505195.html
Check Carole Cadwalladr’s Twitter, she keeps spamming about how evil russians, how they hacked everything and something must be done and how great bellingcat are, what a nut. Actually quite scary.
There’s a big demand for such stories.
And much money.
You got money.
I got stories.
Even the political You Tubers are getting this now. The funny animal crew got it eons ago.
They can see, in realtime, which narratives attract most peep funding, and which deviations cause funding drop.
Then you’ve got younger YouTubers attacking those who are clearly playing the money narrative, and all the while building their own base upon that critique.
That’s the dialectic at work.
Herbie
So true, the hysteria on russia generate alot of cash and exposure for the MSM, big part of the hysteria is driven by this no doubt.
Cadwalldr has been captured after her SCL/CA ‘scoop’ or she was always a gatekeeper/damage limiter?
Either way the article is not prominent on the website any more so I don’t know if comments are open. and ahe is NOT even in the list of columnists
https://www.theguardian.com/index/contributors
What should be the major news and talking point is the virtual ‘book burning’ and ‘internment’ taking place on social media platforms powered by the bellendpussy Atlantic Council and their henchmen at Farcebook and Twatter? This:
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/internet-censorship-just-took-an-unprecedented-leap-forward-and-hardly-anyone-noticed-e6ae2d8adaf2
First they came for the so called ‘fakerists’ because they thought different …
As the deep in shit DS steers us into another mass war – SA? – to yet again avoid the centuries old cry for equality, we must understand that if we wait any longer while our Reichstag is burning our Kristalnacht is happening our Interenment camps are being filled (first with virtual commentators then physically). They will happily set us off against the ‘foreign fake army’ the ‘internal enemy within’ and summary secret trials and executions. While we think that as long as there are endless cute cats and insta highs with a netfix, everything they do must be for the good.
The official advice?
Keep your head down preferably shoved up your own arse or FaceButt and remember Don’t Panic! TRUST US ONCE AGAIN.
‘Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak up and remove all doubt…..’
Come again?
Who you lookin at?
On a re-reading of the already ‘disappeared’ Cadwalladr article – she seems to have sold a sting to her editors – who cottoned on just a bit too late before she piled in a lot of inbetween the lines journalism. The final paragraph is priceless prestadigitary.
I eat humble pie and recommend the article as the only MSM journo saying how the GRU fantastic tale arrived in our midst – without once mentioning Steele and his cabal.
Bravo Carol!
Hunt replies indirectly to Emily Thornberry in a tweet. The twit appears to be conducting FCO affairs via Twitter.
Jamal Khashoggi: Labour attacks UK response as ‘too little, too late’
Emily Thornberry ramps up pressure on government as officials head for conference in Saudi Arabia
Britain must hold the Saudis to account for Jamal Khashoggi | Emily Thornberry
Emma Graham-Harrison
Sat 13 Oct 2018 19.05 BST
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/13/labour-slams-government-over-khashoggi-response-emily-thornberry
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Jeremy Hunt
@Jeremy_Hunt
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Really Emily? From the party whose leader wouldn’t even condemn Russia by name after the first ever chemical weapons attack on British soil…we have been robust and will continue to be on this very troubling issue.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt
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Even if Scotland is allowed to become nominally independent – which it will not – Scotland will not be permitted to be independent of this over-arching strategic geopolitical dynamic. We are talking here about powers that destroy entire countries at will. I wish this were not true, but it is.
Correct. The main effect would be that Edinburgh would get its instructions directly from Washington rather than at second hand through London.
I don’t think that would be an improvement in any way. For starters, I think the people in Edinburgh would find the tone of communications from Washington would make their hair stand on end.
And if you think that the government of an independent Scotland would be able to ignore Washington’s orders, you should ask yourself why Scotland would be so different from every other Western country – including far larger and more powerful ones like Germany and Japan, and ones with a tradition of freedom and independence like France and Australia.
I think the time is rapidly coming when Americans themselves no longer listen.
Both Cakifornia and Texas have significant secessionist movements, with a CalExit vote due soon….
“Correct. The main effect would be that Edinburgh would get its instructions directly from Washington rather than at second hand through London.”
Another psychic, who see’s Holyrood brimming with Atlanticists. Lets not forget Tom on the last SNP vote to remain in Nato, yes won by a smaller margin than some would have thought.
“Even if Scotland is allowed to become nominally independent – which it will not ”
And you know this for a fact because?
“Scotland will not be permitted to be independent of this over-arching strategic geopolitical dynamic. ”
Above you state the bleeding obvious, all the nations of the world can’t escape it. Why would Scotland manage where others have failed.
Your powers of observation are astonishing.
We still don’t have a plausible account of what happened to Willie McRae and his bizarre suicide after he started investigating British nuclear power in the 1980s. He was a leading SNP figure who had successfully seen off plans to store nuclear waste in the Galloway hills. It was only revealed recently that a couple of years after his death that MI6 had wanted to assassinate Charles Haughey but wanted dissident Protestant groups in NI to do it but they refused. Two independent enquiries into his death have occurred and both concluded it was suicide, yet they could have been easily derailed by official misinformation.
Willie McRae? That was likely to have been an assassination.
Good to hear your considered comments again Suhayl, hope you are well.
It really is time for Nuremberg trials for disgusting old MI6 genocidalists….
The year before Willie Macrae’s bizarre ‘suicide’ another nuclear activist died mysteriously.https://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/mar/20/who-killed-hilda-murrell
Recently the mystery was solved and somebody was convicted but the conviction of a petty criminal could easily have been a set up to convict somebody for the crime, plea bargaining, a deal.
I agree that the SNP shouldn’t be parroting the British anti Russian message. Putin’s regime is undoubtedly nasty as is Trump’s but the SNP should have been asking about the health of the ambulance and A&E teams who attended the Skripals. Why was it that a policeman was the only other casualty of the Salisbury incident?
so the british regime is not nasty?
A united Ireland on the horizon which would mean another Scottish referendum with the outcome uncertain, unlike a united Ireland vote. The break up of the UK is on the cards so thanks to all those that voted to leave the EU. The catalyst for the UK break up.
The last vote was lost because the SNP couldn’t show enough working class people that swapping Englsh establishment with a Scottish one would affect their lives for the better. A major reason the SNP swept Labour off the Westminister election map was due to Labour being run by Thatcherite Blairites. The Scottish working class just couldn’t stomach voting for yet another Labour neo-con leader.
In a way Corbyn’s been a godsend for the UK establishment, as his is left wingism, which resonates with a large section of the Scottish working class, has pulled them back into the pro UK unionism Labour party. As shown from tt the last election when a Labour left wing agenda saw them return more Scottish MPs to parliament. The SNP has to become more explicitly left wing anti UK establishment to stand any chance of getting elected to Westminster in the future and gain independence through a plebiscite.
Unless the SNP pulls further to the left they will not stand a chance of gaining independence. But the SNP parroting the same anti Russian warmongering bull coming out of London, will only convince the Scottish working class that they are no different to Tories.
“The SNP has to become more explicitly left wing anti UK establishment.” That seems self-evident, but it will never happen under a leader who confesses to being a Hillary fangirl and an admirer of John McCain. That is what she is and the rest of them take their lead from her.
It is quite an irony is it not that the opposer to both Hillary and McCain, Ron Paul, is archly conservative with a small C?
“It is quite an irony is it not that the opposer to both Hillary and McCain, Ron Paul, is archly conservative with a small C?”
My understanding is that Ron Paul is some sort of Libertarian. Nice word, but simply neoliberalism redux.
Says nice things, but not a solution to what we’re facing.
Anyway.
The fight is between the power of global capital and producer countries.
That’s it.
Global capital don’t need peeps so much, but for producer countries, peeps is their capital.
These are the competing principles from which all else derives.
All politics is reduced to this divide.
And Politics isn’t really politic, is it. It doesn’t come up from and out of the peeps. Like organic emergence. The desire of the people.
No. It’s all top/down crap.
So the question then becomes to which leader do you submit for protection.
Europeans in their emergence, post Rome, created amusing law to integrate the different tribes into a bigger whole.
So, if you were from the X tribe in Northern whatever, any offence you committed on another tribe’s territory would be treated in terms of your own tribe’s laws on the matter.
We know the small states of Germany and Poland, and so may others played this game for so long after.
Yeah. seems like a good solution.
But.
There were loads of cases of miscreants just dressing up in the weeds of and pretending to be of another tribe that had a lesser sentence for or just didn’t recognise the offence charged.
So yes, this is why we need Globalism now.
Sort this diversity nonsense once and for all.
What “Scottish working class”?
It’s gone!
Dismantled.
every who works for wage or salary is working class
Everybody who earns anything over £10 an hour thinks they’re middle class.
The telly tells them so!
‘…If an Independent Scotland is just going to behave like the UK in foreign affairs, carrying on neo-con foreign policy by illegitimate methods, I see no point in Scotland being independent….’
Craig, therein lies a potential trap. If someone in the future misquotes you and accuses you of writing ‘I see no point in Scotland being independent’, you might call them a liar, forgetting you had used that form of words, but in the context in which you did.
Might end up in court again.
There are a range of reasons for the anti-Russian rhetoric, including thwarting Brexit by creating a common enemy of the EU. Hence a pro-EU SNP, despite or because of events in Catalonia, joins EU, May (who is trying to sabotage Brexit) and the neo-con conservatives in condemning Russia.
Brexit brings a united Ireland closer, but within a united Britain. Hence there should be a border poll about the Republic re-joining the British commonwealth.
Ironically for Ireland, who gave up their independence when they joined the Euro, if not before, the reasons given for Britain not leaving the EU, the adverse trade impact, becomes the reason Ireland needs to leave EU and re-join Britain, due to the trade impact. That is, the Irish economic and cultural ties are far greater with Britain than the EU. So joined together needs to be followed with leave together!
A proposal that unfortunately has little resonance beyond the letter page of the Telegraph. In Ireland itself the appetite for leaving the EU in order to rejoin Britain is about as strong as it is in Virginia for leaving the US in order to rejoin Britain.
Somebody may ask politicians in the Republic of Ireland what they will do if Britain leaves the customs union and puts up no customs posts on the border. Will the RoI obey EU rules and put up their own border and immigration posts, in order to make sure they can keep on pocketing EU grants? (Remember they can’t stop British people in Northern Ireland from crossing the border at will, or at least the vast majority of them who are entitled to, or who already hold, Irish passports.) Or will they jeopardise their own moneygrabbing in order to respect the holy principle of a soft-as-cotton-wool Irish border? Are they too honest to keep the money rolling in to their accounts while blaming their own choices on “the British”?
Hold the front page: discussion of paedophile priests and the vote in favour of abortion rights haven’t driven the fantasy and lying out of Irish politics,
Yep, silly to blame Britain for this border and the latest problem it presents.
Under WTO rules – preferential treatment means that if the UK doesn’t put border checks on Irish/EU goods on the island of Ireland, it can’t check any other country’s goods. Otherwise, it’s break WTO rules.For instance if Irish apples aren’t checked then the UK cannot check any apples coming into the UK. Same with any product. It’s a misnomer that the UK doesn’t have to put border checks on the island of Ireland. ‘National security’ exemption would be an attempt to not follow preferential but any WTO country can ask for evidence about ‘national security’. Russia/the EU are at this moment querying the US’s tariffs on metals due to ‘national security/interest’.
The UK cannot ‘take back control of it’s borders’ if they don’t check EU migrants coming into the UK. Without border posts on the island of Ireland, EU migrants coming to the Republic can just travel over the border to the UK/Northern Ireland. Unfortunately, for the ‘taking back control’ brigade those with Irish passports living in the north, have the right to free movement through the island of Ireland, guaranteed under the Good Friday Agreement, without having to show their passport.That is why the DUP/Brexiteers are questioning the ‘validity’ of the GFA, they can’t ‘take back control’ with the GFA there. That’s why May’s ‘leaving but not leaving’ is the only game in town to keep Northern Ireland as part of the UK. Border checks equals a push for a border poll which will result in a united Ireland.
@Tarla
Agreed, the idea of no customs checks by Britain on the Northern Ireland side of the Irish border and then the issue being whether the Republic of Ireland should build some customs posts on its side is in large part a fantasy. But fantasy plays a role in politics. You raise a very interesting point regarding the WTO. The British government can’t honour the Good Friday Agreement and withdraw from the customs union at the same time, but even if they try they won’t keep in the good books of the WTO and important other countries. Is keeping the Irish border soft as cotton wool worth leaving the WTO, letting weeds come through the concrete at Dover and Felixstowe, and having a British famine to rival the big Irish one of the 19th century? That said, sooner or later someone is going to notice in the Republic of Ireland that the Republic has taken on obligations by joining the EU.
“Unfortunately, for the ‘taking back control’ brigade those with Irish passports living in the north, have the right to free movement through the island of Ireland, guaranteed under the Good Friday Agreement, without having to show their passport.That is why the DUP/Brexiteers are questioning the ‘validity’ of the GFA, they can’t ‘take back control’ with the GFA there.”
As dual citizens they have the right to travel to and live in either part of Ireland regardless of the GFA.
We knew the GFA removed GB’s right to self-determination (because it disallows GB from deciding off its own bat to leave Britain, also known as jettisoning NI), but for some reason Nigel Farage and Tory Leave nuts are holding back from saying publicly what they really think, which is “F*** Ireland, North and South”.
Britain and Ireland are already joined in membership of EU and have extensive economic and cultural ties and so a new Britain and Ireland Union, outside the EU, but replacing City of London with devolution is an alternative aspiration to ever closer European Union under the ECB. I.e. a big enough Union to stand on our own two feet, and removing the enmity caused by centralised Westminster rule.
Southern Irish independence ended, if not before, when they joined the Euro and was mostly a minority creed compared to Home Rule, but gained a relative advantage due the catastrophe of WWI. If Britain leaving EU is economic madness, then the Republic not remaining part of the British Union, by leaving with us, is economic madness too.
I doubt the Irish would welcome voluntarily submitting themselves to being under the British jackboot again!
Is the whole issue moot, when an integrated (increasingly ‘automated’) system of intelligence, information, trade, militarism and money are not contained by national boundaries and not controllable by national governments?
Would independence help us ‘fight the power’?
In my opinion, no.
It is, like Brexit, a chemira, there to divide and rule us.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/series/eu-military-unification
Talpiot.
If you want something non party political to get your intellectual juices flowing this Monday morning, I recommend this by Henry Kissinger on the philosophical questions that Artificial Intelligence poses for the human race.
– Tweet from Nicola Sturgeon
Should Scotland become truly independent, it will need to revise it’s Electricity generating structures. Russian Gas is an economical and clean fuel for powering reliable electric generation of a scale sufficient to power industry and large infrastructure projects, Hospitals, Trains, Street lighting, Airports etc. As leaders in Nuclear generation technology Russia could help out there too. Though not if as Craig suggests, the SNP politik support the rabid Westminster anti Russia racist bigotry.
Scotland can achieve full self-sufficiency in renewables only and will be there in a few years.
You saved me having to tell him. Oh and huge gasfield was recently discovered in Scottish waters. An oil/gas fund is a must in the future of a independent Scotland.
Collect rent from multinationals for the oil and gas while only using wind power at home?
An oil/gas fund is a must in the future of a independent Scotland.
Climate change?
-Irrelevant to independence absolutists, it would seem.
Indeed, Scotland could well achieve self-sufficiency in renewable electricity production soon.
Although this would be tempered by increase demandi if, say electric road transport were taken up rapidly.
It is always important to note that electricity is only one component of overall energy production/ consumption, and that Scotland has a long way to go (arguably and impossibly long way to go) to eliminate dependency on fossil fuels per se.
https://www.gov.scot/Resource/0054/00541525.pdf
The “clever people know there’s got to be a mix” line is propaganda coming from oil, gas and nuclear interests.
It’s kind of fascinating from a bird’s eye view to think of how nuclear power interests own the “green” ideology, given that once upon a time “green” was sold as “anti-nuclear” in order to squelch what remained of the left. Never mind having half your children born with two heads, just so long as you don’t get dirty coal dust on your hearth.
Providing the wind keeps blowing at the right speed you’ll be fine. Checking Gridwatch today wind is providing about one fifth of it’s capacity and you can forget about solar.
Interesting that a gas field of 1 trillion cubic feet is these days considered huge. When North Sea gas production peaked in 2001 the annual production was 10 trillion cubic feet.
Russian nuclear technology, well that’s proved safe and reliable in the past.
Maybe enough to keep the lights on, but not enough to supply commercial and heavy industry and at the price of blighting areas of natural beauty.
who will supply the capitol to invest this sefle sufficiency. the western capitol markets , LONDON ,FRANKFURT, New York. YOU ARE STILL THE CHAINS .
who will supply the capitol to invest this self sufficiency. the western capitol markets , LONDON ,FRANKFURT, New York. YOU ARE STILL THE CHAINS .
Craig,
‘Scotland can achieve full self-sufficiency in renewables only and will be there in a few years.’
The nature of those forms of renewables that are generally referenced (generation of electricity from wind and solar) and including to a lesser degree hydro and tidal, dictates that self sufficiency cannot be achieved without massive ‘electrical’ storage capacity. The only large scale ‘practical’ such storage is pumped hydro, and adequate capacity expansion is subject to the massive cost (pumped sites as well as supporting network capacity issues) as well as sites availability. Note also a turn-around efficiency of such storage inclusive of transmission to/from, blows a third of the original renewable energy into the ether.
The current UK renewable capacity is supported (ie supply/demand balancing) by the UK electrical network and where the additional cost arising to compensate for the non ‘on demand’ nature of such generation is spread across UK consumers.
Whilst renewable self sufficiency is an attractive idea, in practice it is sound bite, pie in the sky philosophy beloved of politicians and promoted by those with vested interests and their useful idealists.
Note that electricity generation from biomass stands in a different category to those above but comes with its own issues.
There is a lot of BTL discussion about what an independent Scotland should be.
My view from outside the debate is to ask three questions:
1) What does it take to gain independence?
2) What is necessary to develop and sustain a fiscally solvent independence?
3) When Scots have earned the right to be more strategic from a position of fiscal solvency, what would an ideal Scotland look like?
In my mind, the answers to question one most likely come from worldly wise Scots aged 55-75.
In my mind, the answers to question 2 should come from Scots achieving success aged 35-55.
Question 3 is a matter chiefly for those aged 15-35, for it is they who might become leaders of a fiscally solvent independent Scotland.
Whether such inter-generational co-ordination is possible in independence-minded Scots, I do not know….
“When Scots have earned the right to be more strategic from a position of fiscal solvency, what would an ideal Scotland look like?”
Rhys.
What does that even mean?
I mean the UK is swimming in a sea of debt due to consecutive Westminster governments shoddy handling of its wealth.
Questioning the economical viability of a independent Scotland, with its wealth of natural resources, against the rUK with a £1.7 trillion national debt is speculating at at best.
A independent Scotland would have far more significant borrowing powers than it has now.
Say hello to another irregular verb:
I have unknowingly broken the ministerial code,
you have taken the Chiltern Hundreds,
she has begun a 40-year jail sentence for treason.
Yes, I’m thinking of Priti Patel, the former international development secretary. When it became too clear that she was working for I__ael, giving secrets to I__ael, and spying for I__ael, and that she answered to I_aeli ambassador Mark Regev rather than doing what was supposed to be her job supported by British civil servants, she had to be sacked. She has never had her collar felt, and at the time of writing she is not languishing in a traitor’s cell in Holloway Prison. Nor has Theresa May or any British security official resigned in disgrace at allowing such a person into the British cabinet in the first place.
So what is she doing now if she isn’t slopping out and sewing mailbags?
The answer is that she is writing for the Sun, telling people that the country voted to leave the customs union. Well that’s f***ing funny, because that’s not what it had on my ballot paper when I voted in the referendum.
“What part of ‘We voted to leave the customs union’ don’t you get, Prime Minister?” she asks.
In my experience, that phrasing is almost always used by people who don’t understand the issue they’re talking about, and who compensate by insulting their interlocutor and calling them ignorant. Perhaps it fits well in a tweet or something? Somebody who thinks such a phrase is impressive is unknowingly signalling that they themselves are moron.
Make no mistake: if those who control the Sun newspaper use that vile rag to tell Theresa May to leave office, she will leave office. Whether this is achieved through 48 letters to Graham Brady and a vote of no confidence, or a “cabinet revolt”, or a supposed worsening of her diabetes, some combination of these methods or some other method, doesn’t alter the fact that in British politics the Sun always wins.
Can you seriously imagine Priti Patel accusing someone else of betrayal?
AIPACThe Edelman public affairs consultancy seems to have gathered and analysed information on how every single British MP will vote – or the probability that they will vote this way or that – in the big Brexit vote in the House of Commons.Researchers “examined sources including public statements, interviews and voting records of every MP”. Of course all the information came from public sources. Perish any thought to the contrary!
Out of interest, I wonder whether Edelman hold advance information about John Bercow’s Speaker’s rulings regarding what amendments to bills he may or may not allow. That information would be valuable, or “market sensitive”, to use a euphemism. Ever get the impression Britain is getting Icelanded or Enronned?
Jolly good show, Edelman! And jolly good show, MI5, allowing a foreign company to gather all of this information. That will be a shiny gong for you then, Andrew Parker. Maybe you can follow your predecessor into a nice directorship at Marks and Spencer?
A further example of anti-Putin propaganda:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia’s-big-space-fail-exposes-putin-era’s-soviet-reflexes/ar-BBOl5Hq?ocid=spartandhp
All this talk if Sottish Independence from the Union makes me chuckle.
So the SNP wants a Scotland that is free from the Union (& therefore free from Westminster).
It (the SNP) & apparently a fair percentage of the Scottish population desire this to become a reality.
But they (the SNP) & I expect those that wish for Scottish Independence wish for an ‘Independent Scotland’ to retain full EU Membership. Except since an ‘Independent Scotland’ never actually joined the EU then an ‘Independent Scotland’ will have to broker a totally new deal as if were joining the corrupt cabal as a new member state.
An ‘Independent Scotland’ – an oxymoron if ever there was one – free from the Union but subject to the Laws of the EU.
Who is kidding who?
Out of the Union into the Union. Without a currency of its own an “independent” Scotland would of course have to join the euro if it then wanted to join the EU. One good reason why Scotland would probably decide to stick with the original Union.
I think I would be worried that health policy is also run from Westminster. Sadly, in the end, it may just be which politicians enjoy the patronage for protecting the various rackets, and SNP politicians want their piece of the action.
“The U.K. government has been accused of “economic murder” for implementing tough austerity measures during the recession that have been linked to nearly 120,000 deaths since 2010, according to a landmark study.”
https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/53DF0C60-CAD9-11E7-AA04-35A56D8B0840?__twitter_impression=true
The forecast in the report is for more deaths, of which, Brexit will only exacerbate the situation.