The Destruction of Central Edinburgh Communities 493


Of the three flats on the corridor where I rent my current Edinburgh home, just off the Canongate, two were lived in and one a holiday let. As of this month, only we are resident and there are two holiday lets. Before this I lived in the Holyrood Park apartment block. Of the 14 flats on the stair we lived on, only 3 were inhabited. Eleven were holiday lets and holiday homes. Our rent was raised every six months until eventually we we were forced out by rent reaching over £1500 a month. A taxi driver taking me home once told me he had never taken an actual resident there before, only holidaymakers; he did not know there were residents.

One Edinburgh website alone boasts that over 2,000 Edinburgh apartment owners use its short term letting service – and presumably a significant percentage of those 2,000 own multiple apartments. The authorities simply cannot know how many Edinburgh flats are holiday lets. It is a huge black market, avoiding income tax, fire, safety and other regulations and very often involving illegal sub-letting. Certainly in the apartment block I now inhabit there are flats used for holiday lets which are supposed to be social housing. The extent of it may be gauged by the fact that, with parking in great demand in Central Edinburgh, we have an underground car park with just one narrow space per flat, but that outwith the festival I have never seen the car park more than 20% full.

It is partly, but not just, an airbnb phenomenon. There are many other websites. A search for “apartments only” in Edinburgh from booking.com for 6-8 November shows an astonishing 877 apartments available – in addition to those already let, or available from a plethora of other sites and agents. There must be a minimum of 3,000 housing units not designed as holiday accommodation, taken out of Edinburgh’s housing stock and put to that purpose. Of these, I know from direct observation most are simply empty for the vast majority of the year, but from just Hogmanay and the Festival an owner can make more money than a working family could pay for rent in the year. The result is, of course, to force rents up across the city for ordinary people.

The impact on the city centre community has been devastating, and the process is by no means ended, with estate agents I have spoken with saying that most city centre properties now sold are still going to investors for this purpose.

Cities like Edinburgh and Barcelona, which are quite rightly huge tourist attractions, need to take urgent planning decisions to prevent the organic life of the city becoming extinct, and their being reduced to Disneyland parks. I have sympathy with those who argue that greedy overcharging in the hotel sector is part of the problem. But having lived as a resident in hollowed-out empty buildings, surrounded by homeless people sleeping rough next to empty homes, it is plain something is very wrong. That is without mentioning the unpleasantness of the stag and hen party culture which forms a significant part of the Edinburgh trade, and amongst which even the most liberal person has trouble living with small children in the family.

State regulation is out of fashion, but I would advocate tackling this through planning consent and simply designating which properties are for residential purpose only, and which for holiday accommodation if a permit is obtained. The latter might then be easily taxed as commercial properties, overcrowding and fire regulation addressed, and the income tax more easily pursued. The alternative is for the community of Central Edinburgh to vanish. I live a short walk from my father’s birthplace in a tenement on Johnstone Terrace. It is now a holiday let.


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  • Sharp Ears

    This is all the families of those ‘Tommies’ slaughtered in WW1 received in lieu of their life.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Plaque_(medallion)
    450 tons of bronze was used in the manufacture of 1,355,000 such medals.

    We are approaching Remembrance Day when yet again, war and militarisation will be glorified with the royals in the vanguard.

    I expect you have noticed the life size silhouettes of ‘Tommy’ erected on roadside verges and roundabouts. ‘There but Not There’. ‘The Silent Soldier’, etc.

    Mawkish and almost an industry combined with the poppy displays in cathedrals and the like.
    https://www.britishlegion.org.uk/remembrance/ww1-centenary/thank-you/how-to-get-involved/silent-silhouettes/

    ’14-18 NOW is bringing the two sculptures Wave and Weeping Window to audiences across the UK as part of the Poppies Tour. They have already been seen by over 4 million people. The sculptures are free to view.’
    https://www.wherearethepoppiesnow.org.uk/poppy-tour/

    • nevermind

      Rememberance day owes you long after your dead. There is nothing heroic or glorious seeing your pals die next to you.
      Whyever are these people not recognised for what they really were? They are not just soldiers, belonging to x or y regiment

      They are sons, butchers, landworkers, teachers and fathers. Some were just out of school, it it not glorious to die young.

      • Loony

        You ask “Whyever are these people not recognised for what they really were?”

        You need to try and keep up. They were mostly white men and the modern world has grown tired of being forced to pay homage to dead white supremacists. Just ask the students union of Southampton University who are (or at least were) very clear as to the pressing need paint over a war mural at the University.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-45978590

        It seems that there is still too much ignorance and prejudice for this idea to gain mainstream acceptance – but fear not for the glorious day will come when all war memorials can be safely bulldozed to the backdrop of cheering crowds and anyone left with the temerity to object will of course be “literally Hitler”

        Always remember that the revolution eats itself – always and everywhere. No exceptions.

        • Tom

          Boys just out of school who were told by the system to go and fight and kill or be killed were certainly victims.
          However, I will not be buying a poppy as I believe to do so suggests that their sacrifices were right and worthwhile, which they were not.
          These boys and their counterparts abroad were slaughtered in the power games of governments and royal families. There has never been any apology from our government or royal family about the young men and women effectively butchered on the frontlines by upper class generals.
          To buy a poppy is to collude in the whole deception, as well as to encourage governments and the military to fight more wars.
          I opposed all recent wars and believe that our forces should have refused to take part. I will not be supporting them by pretending I believe their sacrifices were worthwhile – and I urge other people to do the same.

          • Loony

            Your ideas could be right, or they could be wrong. No-one knows, since the only people that could actually tell you what the poppy symbolizes resolutely refuse to do so.

            The Royal British Legion will say nothing beyond the poppy being a symbol of remembrance. This leaves the matter open to interpretation, including the interpretation of a former SAS soldier.

            https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/ex-sas-soldier-blasts-poppy-appeal-1884260

            Naturally no-one is interested in his views and so he is largely ignored. Just in case anyone was thinking of not ignoring him the British Government has rewarded his service by imposing a legal injunction on him thus removing his right to free speech on a range of topics offensive to the Government.

            As you may expect from the SAS he is a multi award winning soldier. Prior to winning the award of an injunction the British government tried to pin a desertion medal on him – but were a matter of days late as he had already agreed his discharge with his military commanders as opposed to his political overlords.

          • Dontun

            ”The Royal British Legion will say nothing beyond the poppy being a symbol of remembrance.”

            But ask them about their lotto draw……….

            ”Play the Legion’s Poppy Lottery for just £1 per entry and you could win up to £2000 every week and help The Royal British Legion.”

            Help them with what exactly? Poppy making? Poppy Bingo to follow shortly. For the orphans you see……….

          • giyane

            Tom

            There might not have been an apology but there was a complete turn-around in policy. No more warmongering against foreigners and no more neglect of the poor and sick.

            Until the monstrous Mrs Thatcher , 30 years after WW2, decided to reverse that reversal and call it ” radical “. yes she tore up the unspoken apology in one stroke.

            Instead of reversing that reversal of the reversal, the idiot Blair and the blue labour MPs decided to strengthen the reversal, by continuing to devote another 20 years to violent war and ruination of the working class. Combined with the havoc wrought by David Cameron , arsehole Clegg and scoundrel William Hague, that makes 59 years of continuous broken promises to the fallen of two world wars.

            I really believe the only non-hypocrite at the cenotaph will be Jeremy Corbyn. it’s time to give him a chance in power.

          • Paul Greenwood

            You are probably too young to recall the original poppies before plastic took over. They had a black button in the centre with the words “Haig Fund”. It was created in 1921 and the Cenotaph was designed in 1919 to replace the wooden structure, and it was unveiled on 11.11.1920. The dates are critical. It is also the year The Firearms Act brought in gun licensing.

            WW1 had led to lots of MIAs and their widows could not get Poor Relief until their husbands were declared KIA and that under English Law meant a wait of 7 years ! The poverty and misery especially in towns with Pals Battalions created a social powder keg and the fears of Bolshevik Uprising or Chaos as in Germany made the. Lloyd George Coalition desperate to channel Anger into Grief.

            Earl Haig was the “hero of the hour” chosen to front a Public Fund to help the devastated. In later years Earl Haig’s role in creating the devastation led to his name being dropped bit it was he who founded The Royal British Legion in 1921.

            Since I can put family names on poppies I tend to buy them to help the victims of government policy who otherwise would be thrown on the societal scrapheap whilst spoiled rich kids threaten to paint over murals

          • Johny Conspiranoid

            To not by a poppy coludes with the re-write of its meaning. Its meaning is rememberance of the dead and nothing more, not ‘glorious war’ or ‘lets invade somewhere’.

        • Makropulos

          How did you manage to turn “sons, butchers, landworkers, teachers and fathers” and some “just out of school” into “dead white supremacists”?

          • Herbie

            You don’t.

            You just create generations who perceive them so.

            You replace thinking with labels.

      • Resident Dissident

        Six Young Men
        The celluloid of a photograph holds them well –
        Six young men, familiar to their friends.
        Four decades that have faded and ochre-tinged
        This photograph have not wrinkled the faces or the hands.
        Though their cocked hats are not now fashionable,
        Their shoes shine. One imparts an intimate smile,
        One chews a grass, one lowers his eyes, bashful,
        One is ridiculous with cocky pride –
        Six months after this picture they were all dead.
        All are trimmed for a Sunday jaunt. I know
        That bilberried bank, that thick tree, that black wall,
        Which are there yet and not changed. From where these sit
        You hear the water of seven streams fall
        To the roarer in the bottom, and through all
        The leafy valley a rumouring of air go.
        Pictured here, their expressions listen yet,
        And still that valley has not changed its sound
        Though their faces are four decades under the ground.
        This one was shot in an attack and lay
        Calling in the wire, then this one, his best friend,
        Went out to bring him in and was shot too;
        And this one, the very moment he was warned
        From potting at tin-cans in no-man’s land,
        Fell back dead with his rifle-sights shot away.
        The rest, nobody knows what they came to,
        But come to the worst they must have done, and held it
        Closer than their hope; all were killed.
        Here see a man’s photograph,
        The locket of a smile, turned overnight
        Into the hospital of his mangled last
        Agony and hours; see bundled in it
        His mightier-than-a-man dead bulk and weight:
        And on this one place which keeps him alive
        (In his Sunday best) see fall war’s worst
        Thinkable flash and rending, onto his smile
        Forty years rotting into soil.
        That man’s not more alive whom you confront
        And shake by the hand, see hale, hear speak loud,
        Than any of these six celluloid smiles are,
        Nor prehistoric or, fabulous beast more dead;
        No thought so vivid as their smoking-blood:
        To regard this photograph might well dement,
        Such contradictory permanent horrors here
        Smile from the single exposure and shoulder out
        One’s own body from its instant and heat.

    • Deb O'Nair

      What will not be remembered this year, with all the hullabaloo about (some) women getting the vote, is that many of the conscripted men who died in WW1 did not have the vote.

      In 1918 4 million men, including many WW1 veterans, were finally aloud to vote. Can you imagine being conscripted into the meat grinder of WW1 to die for a government that you were not even allowed to vote for? A true injustice on every level; no choice in the government and no choice in being sent to your death by them.

      • Paul Greenwood

        My family could not vote though they fought in both world wars. Then again there was no election between 1910 and 1918 and none between 1935 and 1945.

    • Paul Greenwood

      What they are getting is the Disney treatment. What Christopher Clark called “The Sleepwalkers” is happening all over again and none seems to be noticing – huge shipments of munitions into Ramstein and Bremerhaven – abandonment of an INF Treaty that only really applies to Europe – and sabre-rattling from Chickenhawks in London and Washington. The Elites always drive the Masses to slaughter

      • Herbie

        Thing is, the elites don’t need the masses no more, not for war, not for anything else.

        I mean, they were getting a bit concerned about the masses congregating in the cities even by the late 1800s.

    • Squeeth

      No, the Welfare State was born on the Somme, that’s why working class organisations supported the boss class – for a better place in society afterwards. That the boss class had to ask a second time in 1939 drove the price higher and it has taken two generations to reverse the concessions.

      • Paul Greenwood

        No it was not. 1921 is when the Government started to raise Bank Rate because of the huge Debt Burden from the War. Interwar 40% Government Spending was Debt-Servicing Costs. You should read up on Geddes Axe, and who the Geddes Brothers were – and May Committee, and Philip Snowden.

        It is fascinating to hear the recitation of mantras from blank sheet history books of the Postmodernist Education Era

  • Sharp Ears

    This is a new trailer for the film that Shahida and Nadira are making about the expulsion of the Rohingya people. It is good and also very moving.

    Unwanted
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0bmg9tjROg

    Stupid You Tube categorize it as ‘Comedy’. The number of viewings has not been increased even though I have watched it through.

    • pete

      Re Sharp Ears at 9.36 the Unwanted trailer.
      Yes the views total is not working, I have just watched the trailer twice and it seems to be fixed at 43.

      • Herbie

        The political utubers talk about this a lot.

        Utube fiddles the stats.

        Seems the Google outfit or Alphabet or whatever they call themselves aren’t too fond of free markets, neither in products and services nor political views.

        They’re quite Totalitarian, really. Not explicitly, of course. Most people will only know their very effective PR. You kinda like have to experience them as a producer of content. Most people will never understand the reality behind the PR.

        But that applies across the board with these big internet companies.

        Amazon is the goods market. Google is the ideas and entertainment market. Wikipedia is the library.

        All controlled by the Tyrell Corporation.

  • Republicofscotland

    I say old boy its stiff upper lip time, Johnny Foreigner won’t get one over on us, we’ll give them what for.

    Or maybe not.

    “Theresa May’s kowtowing to the hard Brexiters in her party may have just cost the UK $1.7 Trillion of access to international projects after Brexit.”

    “The U.S., New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Ukraine, Israel and Moldova have all blocked Britain’s post-Brexit entry into the World Trade Organization’s Government Procurement Agreement, a market worth $1.7 Trillion.”

    https://tompride.wordpress.com/2018/10/22/mays-brexit-disaster-unreported-by-uk-press-britain-blocked-from-1-7-trillion-in-wto-projects/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    • Loony

      Oh no the UK is under attack from Moldova. Moldova a country so corrupt that it makes the City of London look pure. Moldova is the poorest country in Europe with a GDP of $8.1 billion.

      Liverpool is not regarded as one of the UK’s wealthier places – it has a lot of social problems, bad housing, a population in long term decline and a lack of high paying jobs. Not many people are rushing to move to Liverpool. And yet…Liverpool alone contributes $57.3 billion to the UK economy. That makes the economy of Liverpool over 7 times the size of Moldova.

      People in favor of Brexit are not likely to one way or the other about anything that Moldova may have to say on the issue. It is though somewhat alarming that those who wish to remain in the EU have been reduced to relying on the views and opinions of Moldova.

      You may wish to proceed with caution as there remains a substantial Russian military garrison in Moldova. Anyone relying on the views of Moldova could easily be branded a “Putin puppet” and by extension a rabid fascist and supporter of the fascist in Chief Donald Trump.

      • Laguerre

        Not surprising that someone like Loony is so contemptuous of Liverpool. Evidently anyting which is not proper right-wing England is worthy of being treated as a piece of slime.

        • Paul Greenwood

          Funnily enough though the people are always ready to chat and be interesting. Quite a contrast with say Leeds which is charmless in comparison

    • Deb O'Nair

      And Australia and Russia. The most shocking is the US, NZ and Aus. So much for the English speaking peoples alliance. How the f**k is the UK going to get a good trade deal from the US when they’re blocking UK at WTO?

      • Sharp Ears

        So the Meghan/Harry initiative has had little or no positive effect for the ‘Royle’ family.. Yesterday, Meghan was modelling a £10,000 Oscar de la Renta gown when presenting an award. https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/1055762754210951169

        Perhaps the Aussies are sickened of these relics of the empire parading their riches. Coming to NZ next.

        Some scribbler has estimated the cost of the tour including the outfits, as £1m.

      • nevermind

        Maybe the Uk is being set up to receive yhe Greek treatment.
        Now might be a good time for Lizzie to open her purse and pay a little back from the taxes so gratiously granted

        • Squeeth

          The British state is obviously in the Same boat as Syriza, because the boss class have to find a way to sabotage Lexit and scapegoat someone for it. That’s why no-one wants May’s job until the deed is done.

    • Resident Dissident

      Don’t worry we’ll get a trade deal with the US – it just won’t be a very good one. Trump may be many things but most of all he is a wheeler dealer and he knows how to deal with weak partners desperate for a deal at any price.

    • Paul Greenwood

      “may have” !!!

      Britain “may have” survived a Martian attack or “may have” entered a time of Everlasting Prosperity or “may have” discovered the secrets of perpetual motion or “may have” found the Philosophers Stone

    • GoAwayAndShutUp

      00:30 – “…in an attempt to decimate the upper ranks of one of America’s mayor political parties…” – Really? Then, why any of them exploded? Cui bono? Sounds very much like the “…in order to destroy America’s democracy…” mantra regarding Russia-Trump collusion/election meddling thing.
      00:54 – “…not a false flag operation…” – Really? How are you so sure? An anonymous law enforcement source confirmed it to you? Why do you mention it? A Freudian slip?
      03:18 – “…Trump’s biggest supporters are always a middle age guy whose package doesn’t work…” – …yeah, right!
      04:20 – “…wanted to wipe out the top democrats in America…” – Again.

      acerbic: (especially of a comment or style of speaking) sharp and forthright.
      forthright: (of a person or their manner or speech) direct and outspoken; straightforward and honest.
      honest: free of deceit and untruthfulness; sincere.

      @Vivian
      Why not just say Maher’s “funny” or “partisan” take instead of an acerbic one?

      • Baalbek

        You seem a little hurt there, litttle guy. But you keep on carrying water for Trump and concocting delusional conspiracy theories that have no evidence to back them up. Your right wing stealth infiltrator costume is embarrassingly threadbare.

        I do not like Bill Maher myself, the man is a tool, but if somebody else like his shtick it’s no skin off my back.

        • GoAwayAndShutUp

          @Baalbek

          – “You seem a little hurt there, litttle guy.”
          No arguments. Pure and simple ad hominem. Who is the “litttle” (sic) guy here?

          – “But you keep on carrying water for Trump…”
          You probably refer to my previous comment. Did you find ANY of the listed facts that was not true?

          https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/10/the-destruction-of-central-edinburgh-communities/comment-page-2/#comment-798494

          – “…and concocting delusional conspiracy theories that have no evidence to back them up.”
          A.K.A. hypothesis, very important part of the thought process and the scientific method, if you use it, of course.

          – “Your right wing stealth infiltrator costume is embarrassingly threadbare.”
          Why do you feel infiltrated? Is this blog something like the Alamo for you?. This is the Internet. Ideas flow. Wake up!.

          – “I do not like Bill Maher myself, the man is a tool, but if somebody else like his shtick it’s no skin off my back.”
          I don’t have any problem with anybody liking that tool, as you call him. I just said it was incorrect to call his stint acerbic.

  • Roger ewen

    While I have no problem with immigrants, why are housing lists getting longer for those who live in
    Scotlands communities.
    Brora, Banff, Peterhead, Amderdeen Inverness, filling up with junkies from Liverpool Manchester, London, middlesbourgh south coast. New housing built by the Scottish government for the Scottish nation filled with parasites from England. Surely we have enough of our own heroin addicts to be going on with….!
    Under the Taliban 2% of the worlds supply heroin came from Afghanistan, now under Uk and USA troops they have now reached 126% of the worlds supply of heroin (an over supply of 26%). to sell on the streets of these nations by those put into power in Afghanistan by UK and USA governments, and military might.
    And the destruction of our communities by our Tory government, unelected by the Scottish nation. Yet it’s our families receiving destruction at the hands of westminsters incompetence and the aristocracies greed.

    • Republicofscotland

      Roger.

      I take exception to your description and attitude towards the people from England, who are now living in social housing in Scotland.

      Please direct your frustrations towards those who deserve it. Such as the Tories, who under Thatcher, (A great friend to Pinochet) introduced the right buy council houses. Or Scottish Labour who in their last adminstration under Jack McConnell, now Baron McConnell of Glenscorrodale, built six houses for social renting in Scotland.

      McConnell also handed back a whopping £1.5 billion pounds to the London Treasury, claiming he couldn’t find anything to spend it on in Scotland. That disgraceful act earned him his ermine trimmed robe, in the undemocratic unelected House of Lords.

  • Republicofscotland

    Meanwhile as a civilian dies in Yemen every three hours, manily from Saudi/coalition bombing of which Britain is a part of, if not actively bombing itself.

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/17008483.uk-fuelled-yemen-war-kills-one-civilian-every-three-hours/

    A vote was held in Westminster yesterday, to withdraw support from Saudi Arabia terrible murderous campaign in Yemen.

    It was defeated after a 100 Labour MP’s either abstained, or failed to show up at all for the vote. The sad thing is, that the motion was only defeated by 90 votes.

    Here’s the list of the gutless.

    https://evolvepolitics.com/heres-a-list-of-labour-mps-who-abstained-on-a-bill-to-withdraw-support-from-saudi-arabias-murderous-war-in-yemen/

    • Sharp Ears

      RoS A correction. That Evolve link is two years old.

      Craig tweeted about the Blairites a week ago –

      Craig Murray
      @CraigMurrayOrg
      Oct 20
      It is worth remembering that, two years ago this week, 100 Blairite MPs did not vote for an official Labour motion in the Commons calling for an end to arms sales to Saudi Arabia over the dreadful bombing of Yemen.
      Every one of them should be deselected.

      Mind you, if a similar vote had been held yesterday, the same would probably apply!

    • Ingwe

      An absolute disgraceful conduct by the 100 Labour MPs who either abstained or didn’t show. Should be deselected. Lots of ‘usual offenders’ i.e. those seeking to undermine Corbyn.

  • Sharp Ears

    Five more Palestinian lives were taken yesterday in the protests at the Gaza ‘border’ and another in the so called ‘West Bank’.

    Palestinian authorities report five killed in Gaza, one in West Bank by Israeli military fire
    Haaretz · 23 hours ago
    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/yet-another-friday-of-protests-in-gaza-27-year-old-demonstrator-said-killed-in-bord-1.6594802

    Israel has bombed eight sites in Gaza.

    The Ha’aretz link is a terrible litany of death and injury.

    • nevermind

      So true, David take note. If you want to look for anti anything, why not start looking at the continuing anti Ghaza shooting, anti Ghaza tanks that are being lined up for more targetted straffing, anti Hebron indigenous actions in the middle of the night, anti Gholan actions against Syria which owns the stolen Gholan. Anti South Lebanon semites whose stolen lands are occupied, not to mention 1982s Sabra and Shatila murders, the anti Palestine murders commited by the butcher Ariel Sharon.
      When your own nose is dripping, don’t offer others a hanky. Start with yourself

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    O/T Can anything better show that America is totally brain-washed when Trump supporters claim that Cesar Sayoc, the POTUS bomb maker, was ‘anti everything’!

    • MJ

      Yes. Have you looked at the picture of the parcel allegedly delivered to CNN? Notice anything that the totally brain-washed might not?

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        I have not seen the photo of the pipe bomb sent to CNN, but believe that none of them were franked, making the Democrats who returned the one sent to Eric Holder look particularly nutty when they sent it to where he really was!

        The anti-terrirusn used here was pathetic like they were working for the POTUS,

        • Loony

          On the contrary it signifies that ALL political violence is wrong and should be condemned with equal severity regardless of the alleged political motivations of the perpetrator.

          That you choose to make an ad hominem response to a matter of undisputed fact is indicative that you support political violence. You should know that this is a losing move and you have voluntarily chosen to align yourself with evil and losers.

          • Trowbridge H. Ford

            As I recall. you said that I was just making things up about Trump because I was bored and other bullshit I cannot recall which is totally untrue as I have pliantly to think about with my only sister dying just the other day, my undergoing treatment for the cancerous node on my right lung, and Trump tearing up the world every where.

            You are king when it comes to personal attacks.

          • Trowbridge H. Ford

            Thanks Glemn, we can at least be kind to one another though we disagree about certain problems.

            There comes a time for all of us when life is no longer worth living.

          • Paul Greenwood

            “ALL political violence is wrong”

            Bit of a nonsensical statement.

            Politics is about setting goals and agendas and the mechanisms for effecting those agendas. The German Verfassung Art 20 states sovereign resides in The People and in Art 20 (4) states
            (4) Gegen jeden, der es unternimmt, diese Ordnung zu beseitigen, haben alle Deutschen das Recht zum Widerstand, wenn andere Abhilfe nicht möglich ist.

            The right of The People to overthrow a government which attempts to up-end that sovereignty. However, it appears even protests on the streets in Chemnitz or Leipzig or wherever have no traction with a leader who unilaterally disregarded German and EU Law (Dublin Agreement) and destroyed the European policy on Asylum yet failed to seek parliamentary approval or cabinet agreement and yet has no Immigration Act on the Statute Book.

            So it maybe that violence is the only way to deal with Sclerosis in Politics

  • David Cohen

    Terrible news about the shooting in Pittsburgh. So much hate in the world. Antisemitic incidents up 57% in the States and on the rise here too.

    • JimmySmm

      Agree David. A timely reminder of how fast control can be lost when antisemites are emboldened, whether from the left or right. Lets hope this is a wake up call to the British voter, Labour being no friend of the jewish community.

      Thoughts with the US.

        • Loony

          What on earth is this supposed to mean? How many people are likely to publicly confess to YouGov that they are raging anti Semites/ Answer not so many. So thinking they so clever, so classless and free they ask a lot of dodgy questions and then infer anti-Semitism. In some cases what they should be inferring is stupidity.

          Take the question about chasing money. You are not going to be much use in the finance sector if you do not value the acquisition of money. Obviously European Jewry are disproportionately involved in the finance sector because of historical reasons.

          In the Middle Ages a raft of legal restrictions closed off most occupations to Jews. The Catholic Church had a prohibition on usary and so were happy to encourage non Christians into the finance sector (at the time considered a marginal activity). What do you imagine the etymology of names like “Goldman” “Sachs” “Lehman””Rothschild” “Kleinwort” “Barings” and “Berenberg” to be?

          Give me a break. Having an understanding of history and understanding that history has shaped the present does not make a person an anti Semite and it does not signify belief in a conspiracy theory. Denying obvious facts to a YouGov pollster either makes the respondent a troll or an idiot. Yeah way to go YouGov – morons and idiots who would prefer the complete destruction of their own credibility that to actually tell the truth.

          • Xavi

            The 5 different stereotypical tropes those polled were asked to agree or disagree with are universally held to be anti-Semitic. Perhaps not by you, but certainly by the Jewish groups and the politicians and media who have been hounding Corbyn.

            Unsurprisingly, Tory supporters were the most likely to agree with the tropes in both polls. But the proportion of Labour supporters who agreed had reduced dramatically in the second poll, by which time Labour was being led by a famously leftwing anti-racist and the party had been abandoned by many supporters of New Labour.

          • Loony

            How can a belief that Jewish people are disproportionately involved in finance be “universally held to be anti- Semetic”?

            As I have already explained it is obvious that they are disproportionately involved – and there are clear and agreed historical reasons as to why this is the case.

            Your argument is beyond bizarre and is akin to holding a belief that a victim of sunburn constitutes conclusive proof of global warming, and that a victim of frostbite constitutes conclusive proof that global warming is a hoax.

            Why play these games? Why not just use your intellect to discern the truth for yourself. It will not take long and then you will have time to laugh at the corporate suicide of YouGov. When their next fake poll comes out you can simply bet on the opposite outcome and make yourself rich – or donate some money to a local soup kitchen filled with former employees of YouGov.

            None of this has much to do with Corbyn or the Labour Party. Mostly it speaks to a society that is drowning in ignorance and too afraid to call out liars and fakes. Corbyn would be better advised to rely on facts and evidence and then tell any residual bickerers to fuck off – but of course he won’t do that since he in fact seeking to appeal to the fearful ignorant.

        • Xavi

          They weren’t asked whether they agreed Jewish people are “disproportionately involved in finance.” So you explained responses to a question that wasn’t asked.

      • Paul Greenwood

        I do not know why Labour should be “a friend to the Jewish Community” as oppose to any other “Community”. I know that minders have been assigned to British PMs with some regularity – Joe Kagan to Wilson; Lord Levi to Blair (Levi’s son as in the Likud Government) and Lord Feldman to Cameron – to ensure “loyalty” but there is no obligation to be obsequious towards Israel or Jews per se. There is a national interest for the people in these islands.

        The words of Ben Hecht, Hollywood screenwriter in 1947 are worth recalling:

        “Every time you blow up a British arsenal, or wreck a British jail, or send a British railroad train sky high, or rob a British bank, or let go with your guns and bombs at the British betrayers and invaders of your homeland, the Jews of America make a little holiday in their hearts.”

        John Maynard Keynes was dying as he negotiated a £5000 million loan from the USA and Canada in 1946 which US insisted meant Sterling Convertibility. Half that money went trying to sort out the Palestine Mandate and India and Greece………1947 was the year Britain suffered an Energy/Coal Crisis and a savage winter…..but Ben Hecht wished everyone in Britain well after a devastating war

    • Hatuey

      In other completely unrelated news, the routine funerals of unarmed civilians murdered by occupation forces in Palestine took place today. I am struggling to keep up but I think this particular 23 year old was one of several murdered in Palestine yesterday (Friday); https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/mourners-attend-the-funeral-of-23-year-old-palestinian-news-footage/1060041968

      Of course, the difference between Palestine and Pittsburg is that this sort of thing happens almost every single day in Palestine and, of course, Pittsburg is not under illegal occupation.

      It’s hard to anticipate the behaviour of a crackpot with a gun but the consequences of brutal occupation are entirely predictable and indeed preventable.

      It’s all tragic. American political leaders should be ashamed of their country’s policies on guns and Palestine.

      • Antonym

        How many rockets were fired from that Pittsburg synagogue towards its neighbors just before? Absurd comparisons can expect absurd replies.

      • Antonym

        Why mention a fly (Gaza) when there are elephants in the room (Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan)?

          • Antonym

            English proverbs: http://www.listofproverbs.com/keywords/elephant/

            When will you start writing about the Oromo-Somali conflict, the Anglophone crisis, the Kurdish-Turkish conflict, the insurgency in Baluchistan, the Colombian -Equador conflict, the Sinai insurgency, the Libyan civil war, the war in Dafur etc. etc. etc.(see wiki links above)?? All had more violent deaths than Gaza this year.

            Just admit it: no Jcws involved – no interest.

          • SA

            Whataboutery par excellence. If you have observed I have written a lot about Syria and KSA and sometimes other matters to do with the Arab world. That is my interest. Some of it concern Israel and some don’t. And incidentally you confuse talking about Jews which word you can’t even write properly for unknown reasons, with talking about the state and the government of Israel, two completely different things. It also happens that I also write about occupied Palestine which is a unique case because mighty powers that usually claim to stand for human rights, rather hypocritically support an apartheid state that tramples the human rights of what you call flies but are human beings whose only fault is that they happened to have lived for thousands of years in an area now coveted by others.
            Now we can all be focused on some problems, or we can all diffusely write about everything that goes. I have not noticed that you are particularly interested in any of these other conflicts except to list them in your whataboutery. Why do you not address this serious deficit yourself? Is it a case of projection because you main aim is to divert and to justify this state?
            I await to hear from you about the Oromo-Somali conflict with bated breath.

          • Antonym

            SA, no need to come out of your closet, your hundreds of comments anti-Israel while being mum about their opponents speak for themselves. your game of acting that Israel is the Goliath vs Gaza as David is transparent. Gaza is supported by 95% of Arabs and 95% of Muslims in the world which makes it 6 million vs 1,500 million, so reality is reverse. There is a name for your vision and anti-antisemitism is indeed wrong as all Arabs are Semites too.

            Regarding Ethiopia l congratulated an Ethiopian friend last week with her country appointing a woman for president, the only one in Africa.

          • SA

            I have written a lot critically about KSA in case you have not noticed. Your attempt at name calling me is typical of people like you who defend the indefensible by using the usual labels.

          • Squeeth

            Two of the three apartheid shiteholes have been flushed round the u-bend of history so it stands to reason that the third and last apartheid shitehole, the zionist occupation of Palestine, is going to be mentioned more often than the Smith regime and Boer South Africa. This isn’t antisemitism, it’s progress; two down and one to go.

    • Sharp Ears

      Correction. Antisemitic incidents are NOT on the rise in the UK. Actually, there has been a drop of 8% from 2017.

      ‘A high number of antisemitic incidents in the UK in the first six months of this year has been attributed to reactions to violence on the border of Gaza and Israel, and the continuing row in the Labour party over antisemitism.
      New figures from the Community Security Trust (CST), which monitors antisemitism, showed 727 incidents between January and June 2018, a drop of 8% on the same period in 2017.’
      Guardian 26th July, 2018.

      CST – given charitable status by the Charity Commission when the chair was Sir William Shawcross, a well known supporter of Zionist Israel.
      ‘He was a member of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees’s Informal Advisory Group from 1995 to 2000. From 1997 to 2003 he was a member of the BBC World Service Advisory Council. In 2008 he became a Patron of the Wiener Library and in 2011 he joined the board of the Anglo-Israel Association and was appointed to the board of the Henry Jackson Society’ YCNMIU.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shawcross

      The CST Trustees were also given anonymity, a first. They have income of £30.4m. They are a private police force who were given training by the Metropolitan Police. Are there any other organisations given that treatment? Don’t think so.
      http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?subid=0&regid=1042391

      The CST address shown, Shield House, Harmony Way etc is the business address of Gerald Ronson.
      https://companycheck.co.uk/director/903306860/MR-GERALD-MAURICE-RONSON/summary

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ronson
      See who loaned him money when his company Heron nearly went bust with debts of £1billion to 11,000 bondholders.
      ….Bill Gates, Rupert Murdoch, Craig McCaw, Oracle Corporation’s founder, Larry Ellison, and others…

      • Paul Greenwood

        Shawcross has been married 3 times but the child of his first marriage is married to Simon Wolfson

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Because I feel that Israel is responsible for far more misery of Jews and other religions and people than is called for.

  • Republicofscotland

    Ssshhhh! Don’t mention that Universal Credit is really hurting people, or you’ll get sanctioned by the government.

    “The boss of a homeless charity has claimed she won’t be able to receive any Lottery funding unless she stops publicly criticising Universal Credit and the Government.”

    Esther McVile, doesn’t want anyone criticising UC, no matter how bad it gets.

    https://inews.co.uk/news/homeless-charity-boss-claims-she-was-told-she-wont-get-lottery-funding-unless-she-stops-criticising-the-government/amp/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=ijp&__twitter_impression=true

  • Sharp Ears

    The news from Squirrel Hill, Pittsburgh is that 11 people have been killed but there no other details.

    Trump’s reaction is to say that there should have been an armed guard there, such is his allegiance to the gun lobby/NRA. He referred to the gunman as a ‘wacko’ and recommended an immediate death penalty for him.

    The sooner the US rids itself of guns, the better. From the beginning of the year up to June, there have been 154 mass shootings. It’s utter madness.

    ‘The number of mass shootings in the US this year reached 154 on Thursday.
    Five people were killed and several were “gravely injured” in a shooting at the Capital Gazette’s newsroom in Annapolis, Maryland, police said.
    There have been nearly as many US mass shootings as days in 2018.’
    http://uk.businessinsider.com/how-many-mass-shootings-in-america-this-year-2018-2
    http://uk.businessinsider.com/how-many-mass-shootings-in-america-this-year-2018-2

    • Dungroanin

      Remember the brouhaha earlier in the yeasr about London overtaking New York in murders? No? That particular manufactured BS seems to have gone down the hole. Whivh was as usual designed to hurt the Labour party votes.

      Wonder if Khan has offered some words to Pittsburgh and the potus about it?

      Still, I supppse the SIS and it’s leeches will be grateful to have the spotlight taken off the clusterfuck of Kashoggi/MBS/Syria/Isis white helmets/FBIfailure/CIA snafu/collapsing markets/#meetoo/ClintonDNC demagoguery etc

      Happy halloween and end of summertime.
      (Evil laughter)

    • Dave

      America is a vast country, with big population on the coasts and only small State populations in between. These States view gun control as an attempt to disarm the population to strengthen an oppressive Federal government/Wall Street, rather than reduce gun crime. Its an understandable view, because most gun crime is in areas that already have gun control and following 9/11 and other false flag attacks the Federal government have promoted so-called homeland security, turning America into a pro-war militarised police state, which Trump was elected to reverse, hence why he is loathed by the Deep State.

    • Paul Greenwood

      There are >100 million guns in USA which you propose “to get rid of” rather like the UK will get rid of knives.Guns in the USA have the same relationship to populace as unlimited speeds on motorways do to Germans.

      Britain has simply disarmed the law-abiding population. There are lots of guns floating around the criminal elements in UK and lots of antics moving across EU daily delivering them. The Bradford drug gangs are tooled up as are those in Manchester and Nottingham – forget London.

      • N_

        @Pail – “Guns in the USA have the same relationship to populace as unlimited speeds on motorways do to Germans.

        That is unfair to Germans, who tend to be quite good drivers, even though some of the motorways have no speed limits.

        The US has a higher rate of road traffic-related deaths per billion km driven than Germany. (Source.) The US figure is about twice as high as the British one.

        We all know that gun advocates in the US refer to “freedom”.

        • Paul Greenwood

          Germans are NOT good drivers. They have deteriorated markedly in the past 15 years. Road Deaths are not the key factor – Injuries are. Being paraplegic is not always a blessing. Anyway it is not the point – NZ has a higher vehicle death rate than Germany despite only having 4.7 million people.

          Germans do not drive safely – and the test is not deaths but fender benders. I have driven in USA, France, UK and Germany, Italy, NL, Czech, etc – I know the difference because I watch stupid Autobahn driving and know why Germany will have to bring in ANR and Cameras if it is not to watch its roads seize up with delays

    • N_

      Some analysis of US mass shootings is here.

      One factor in the rise may be that people who are taking opioids experience a reduction in their sex drive. Opioid presciption has soared to epidemic levels in the US, where much of the culture is highly sexualised and where many male bonehead wrestling watchers keep guns. An awful mix.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Bowers was particularly angered by the immigrants that Israel was bringing into the USA, though the country was not mentioned by any American official dealing with the massacre.

    • Sharp Ears

      Trump is in overdrive on this tragedy. Flags are to be flown at half mast on federal buildings. He will be travelling to the scene. Did he do the same for the victims of the previous mass shootings that have taken place during his presidency?

      • Dave

        Trump like Corbyn is facing assault by the Deep State and a compliant MSM, so what else can he do. He’s either got to say false flag, fake news, which he does, or at least implies, but its tricky when Jews are paraded as the victims, as he needs the support of the Zionists to outplay the Globalists, who include the Democrats and many Republicans, although the demise of McCain provides some respite.

        I.e. he can’t dismiss it, as much as he would like to, as fake news, as if it involves Jews, even the Zionists, who don’t genuinely support him, will join the contrived chorus against him. That said, if he plays it right, which he has been doing, he can turn the attacks to his advantage, by promoting a unity message.

      • Paul Greenwood

        Trump is a creature of Sheldon Adelson and will once when called. Trump was a NY Democrat for decades funding Hillary Clinton. Why you think there is anything strange in his Homage to Israel is peculiar. He is a fully paid up member of Greater Israel. That is why men like this killer become unchained…..it is a sense that since USS Liberty…..US interests are secondary. There is no way executing this man will change anything other than to create a martyr for a cause. The US is heading for breakup, the question is which faultiness will best define it and which faction will get most international support

      • N_

        @Sharp Ears – I checked for the Las Vegas mass shooting of last year in which 58 people were killed, and Trump did order US flags on federal government buildings to be flown at half mast. On both occasions the order stipulated four days. This info is from us.halfstaff.org.

        If they don’t do something about the availability of guns to psycho mass killers in the US, they might as well leave flags at half mast permanently.

        • Paul Greenwood

          the availability of guns to psycho mass killers in the US

          The number of people killed by “psycho mass killers” is proportionately small and way behind those dying of drug overdoses or oxycontin, or soldiers committing suicide which is I believe 20/day. Suicides in USA occur one every 13 minutes

  • Sharp Ears

    Ref Paul Craig Roberts.

    A false Twitter account was set up in his name which Twitter banned thinking it was his! Why the ban Twitter? Because he opposes the US wars and speaks out using Sputnik.

    He does not use social media. ‘They’ are up to all the tricks.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-25/twitter-bans-former-asst-treasury-secretary-paul-craig-roberts-after-sputnik

    ‘Roberts, 79, served in the Reagan administration from 1981 to 1982. He was formerly a distinguished fellow at the Cato Institute and a senior research fellow at the Hoover Institution, and has written for the Wall Street Journal and Businessweek. Roberts maintains an active blog.

    He’s also vehemently against interventionary wars around the world, and spoke with Russia’s state-owned Sputnik news in a Tuesday article – in which Roberts said that President Trump’s decision to pull out of the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty was a handout to the military-security complex. ‘
    [..]
    ‘Roberts also suggested that “The Zionist Neoconservatives are responsible for Washington’s unilateral abandonment of the INF treaty, just as they were responsible for Washington’s unilateral abandonment of the ABM Treaty [in 2002], the Iran nuclear agreement, and the promise not to move NATO one inch to the East.”

    Is this what got him suspended?

    Roberts goes on to say that the ideology of US neoconservatives is “akin to the German Nazy Party last century” in their ideology of American supremacy and exceptionalism.

    “Their over-confidence about their ability to quickly defeat Israel’s enemies and open the Middle East to Israeli expansion got the US bogged down in wars in the Middle East for 17 years … During this time, both Russia and China rose much more quickly than the neoconservatives thought possible.”‘

    (That article has attracted 532 comments)

    ____

    This is the Sputnik interview which led to the ‘ban’.

    Washington ‘Unwilling to Accept Any Constraints on Its Unilateralism’ – Scholar
    https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201810251069199681-us-russia-inf-treaty/

  • Loony

    …and tonight’s performance of the Sound of Silence will be performed by an all star cast featuring (but not limited to):

    The Muslim Council of Britain, Labour MP Jess Philips, Mohamed Amin (Chairman of the Conservative Muslim Forum), Mohammed Manoud (Imam of the Finsbury Park Mosque). Baroness Warsi, Labour MP’s David :Lammy and Stella Creasey and Christine Jardine of the Liberal Democrats.

    All of the above were found rushing to media outlets to express their displeasure with Boris Johnson after he made comments comparing women wearing Burka’s with letter boxes. Naturally Johnson was identified as being many unpleasant things – racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, misogynistic etc. etc.

    What do we have for entertainment today? Why Algeria a roughly 99% Muslim country has acted to ban public sector workers from wearing Burka’s and Niqabs. Even headscarves are banned for students sitting examinations.

    And what do any of the “rent a quote” people so keen to criticize Johnson have to say? Why nothing at all. They have nothing to say because they are wrapped in the cocoon of cowardice that they so inanely believe to be their virtue Little wonder there is a growing trend to tear down war memorials – for the high Priests of Cowardice war memorials must be as understandable as the Voynich manuscript.

    • Dungroanin

      Ah come on loony, the Algerian ban is not about ‘postboxes’ on the streets generalisation of the shaggy brained loon with HMV emanating from his every orifice, as you know.

      ‘Civil servants, he [PM] wrote, needed to “observe the rules and requirements of security and communication within their department, which impose their systematic and permanent physical identification”.
      “It should be recalled that, given their public service missions, public officials and public servants are subject to specific legal and statutory obligations,” the Prime Minister said in a circular.’

      Perfectly sensible. No objection, bleeding hearts, crocodile tears or grandstanding needed by the wits you listed.

      • Loony

        Sounds sensible, but I have a couple of questions.

        Why is appropriate to ban these head coverings in Algeria but not in the UK.?

        Why is it appropriate to ban these head coverings in Algeria, but appropriate to beat and imprison women in Iran who refuse to wear these head coverings?

        • Dungroanin

          You tell me? – why are apples not like oranges?
          Why do we support head choppers from Saudi Arabia and not from Iran?
          Why do we arm, train and send mercenaries to rob and kill across the world for the SIS and let our ‘consultants’ earn tax free blood money on these ‘contracts’ while still being allowed to flout the rules on how many days they spend in the UK? Or having family and property here? Yet we arrest or kill others who went to protect and fight with peoples being attacked by our mercenaries.?
          In fact why do we have the largest number of mercenary companies in the world, who allowed that? You think it is ok?

          I understand that you are engendering conversations – it is good to talk.
          We can all do that. How about this to get your chops round?
          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/27/ousted-catalan-leader-carles-puigdemont-launches-new-party

          • Loony

            Whilst apples and oranges are both types of fruit everyone seems to accept that they are different types of fruit and so do not require identical treatment. I may be wrong and perhaps there is a movement that considers any differentiation in fruit types to be a social construct.

            However a number of those who rushed to criticize Boris Johnson did so under cover of the human rights agenda. By obvious definition human rights must apply to all humans – so if it is a human right to cover your head in the UK then it must be a human right to cover your head in Algeria . Unless the argument is that Algerians are not human.

            So far I have yet to hear anyone criticize or support mercenaries, tax dodgers or consultants on human rights grounds.

            Puigdemont is yesterday’s man. Span is somewhat behind other more enlightened nations and they don’t tend to revere cowards. What kind of person encourages other people to protest in the full and certain knowledge that those protesters are going to get physically beaten. Whilst they are being beaten he flees to Belgium leaving other members of his “leadership team” to be arrested and imprisoned, In all probability not even the British are so far gone to support someone like that.

            There is still some residual support in Catalonia – and that tells you far more that you want to know about 30 plus years of the Catalan indoctrination system – not to be confused with the education system it usurped.

            The really sad thing about Catalonia is that it proves that Franco was acting with reason and logic when he banned to Catalan language. Is it not odd that the only people capable of painting a fascist in a good light are “anti-fascists”

          • Dungroanin

            The Human Rights of the Catalan peoples desire to have a free vote on enhancing their autonomy – for equal federal status in Spain – were ignored by the aristo francoists of Madrid, the EU and the UN.

            Craig Murray has made that clear.

            I do think that you like pushing buttons, playing devils advocate or bad faith?

            I am loath to support any bandwagon jumper-on’s. Especially many you listed.

            When it comes to social constructs and fruits – i point you to the age old argument on tomatoes, fruit or veg? Indeed we could also expand to whether bananas are actually berries. Or whether all nuts are dangerous or just peanuts.

          • Loony

            Craig Murray has evidenced numerous times that he knows substantially nothing about Spain – and so quoting him as a source does not advance your argument.

            Catalonia along with Pais Vasco enjoy maximum autonomy under the constitution of Spain. It is beyond doubt and beyond argument that these Autonomous Communities enjoy more autonomy than any of the other 15 Communities.

            As Catalonia provably enjoys superior autonomy to 15 of the 17 Communities it is highly unlikely that Catalans were demanding any form of “equal status” – Not even the Catalan education system could get people to believe that.

            By the standards of the purity of thinking of English people all of Spain is corrupt – but Catalonia stands out for the sheer scale and audacity of its corruption. All of this is fully documented and largely unchallenged. Independence is a handy tool to use to divert attention away from the corruption.

            If followed through on it would destroy Spain since Basque independence would surely follow. Additionally the Catalan leadership is diligent in never ever defining the geography of Catalonia. Is it the existing boundary of the Community or is it something more?

            Do you know anything about Extremadura? Do you know that long after the eastern expansion of the EU Extremadura remained one of the poorest areas in the EU. The current unemployment rate in Extremadura is 24.7%. This compares with a national average of 16.3%. What is going to happen to Extremadura if Spain loses its most productive regions.

            What do you think would happen to people in places like Sunderland and Burnley if London and the South East decided to become independent of the rest of England?

            Sure Catalans have got a very effective PR machine – but the rest of Spain does not intend to starve and sacrifice itself on the alter of “spin”

            Whilst personal testimony is mostly useless it remains the case that I know people who moved from Catalonia to Japan solely to escape the Catalan education system. I pity the poor people who either do not have the option to leave or are forced to move there for purposes of work. The price they are paying for temporary economic respite is the long term (and perhaps irreversible) corruption of the minds of their children.

            As Franco observed “Que hablen el idioma del imperio” And as I have already observed is it not strange that the only people capable of showing Fascists in a good light are self proclaimed anti-fascists.

          • Paul Greenwood

            Because Iran KNOWS what Britain did to it in 1953. Iran KNOWS what Britain did in 1941. Iran KNOWS that Britain has an agenda against Shiities and put Sunnis in charge in Iraq and gave the Hejaz to Saudi taking it from the Hashemites, and that Saudi oil sits in Shia regions of Saudi.

            Iranians are intelligent whereas Saudis are not.

          • Loony

            All you have managed to demonstrate is that Craig Murray has written on the matter of Catalonia. If you read what he has written then you will find evidence of my contention that he knows substantially nothing about Spain (or at least he is not willing to commit any such knowledge to writing).

            Maybe it is too hard for the Anglo mind to grasp. Joe Strummer, who did know about Spain, wrote “oh please leave the ventana open, Federico Lorca is dead and gone”

            I guess he overlooked the words of Lorca himself “A dead man in Spain is more alive than a dead man anywhere in the world” This means something – let us all hope that we do not have to witness in real time exactly what it means.

            I leave you with one further observation from Lorca “As I have not worried to be born I do not worry to die” . This also means something and again it is best to hope that we are not called upon to witness its exact meaning. Much better to stick with history.

            It is more than possible that Murray’s real problem is a reflexive reaction to the fact that in England substantially no-one cares one way or the other about Scottish independence. Conversely people in Spain care very much indeed – perhaps too much. Either way they will not be deflected by communists and anarchists and will not be deterred by death.

    • Trowbridge H. Ford

      You are so filed with hatred towards posters who disagree with you that it is hard to find anything sensible in what you spout out.

      • Loony

        Maybe you should look more carefully, keeping in mind Mathew 7: 7-8

        Here endeth today’s lesson

        • Trowbridge H. Ford

          I avoid the Bible like the plague except at burials, so you will have to tell me what it means.

          • Loony

            Not quoting anything my friend, just a suggestion that something be borne in mind.

            Shakespeare wrote fiction – do you think people should be sneered at for quoting him?

          • Trowbridge H. Ford

            Now that you mention it, I do sneer at much of what is quoted from Shakespeare.

            After the first dozen or so of quotations, they seen increasingly ordinary.

            Think I could do better with what I have written, though I have written far less. And there is far too much escapism in writing fiction, especially in our days..

    • SA

      Loony
      You really need to be a little bit more discriminating in what you write:
      Algeria bans a full face Burka in the workplace to respect the normal interactions at work that are needed by people communicating with each other and for health and safety reasons. They do not ban wearing a Burka in the streets and in public areas.
      BJ did not propose banning the Burka, he set about to insult deliberately. If BJ was serious he would say that he is in favour of banning the Burka and give his reasons. Finding something unattractive is not a reason to go about insulting people and you really need more honesty in these matters.

    • N_

      What do we have for entertainment today? Why Algeria a roughly 99% Muslim country has acted to ban public sector workers from wearing Burka’s and Niqabs. Even headscarves are banned for students sitting examinations.

      Even if they banned the hijab in public buildings, it wouldn’t be the first time that’s been the position in a Muslim country in North Africa.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    The UK covert state murders people, like Dawn Sturgess. Gareth Williams, the 25 N.I. security people on the helicopter that crashed at the Mull, and Willie McRae, all the time. but you will have to tell me what that nurse claims about Willie’s as I am not going to subscribe to the National..

    • pete

      The relevant part of The National article quotes a nurse, it says:
      “The 56-year-old told the Sunday National she was on duty on Saturday April 6, 1985, when McRae was brought into her unit, having been transferred there by ambulance from Raigmore Hospital in Inverness.

      He was unconscious and lying on a stretcher when she was assigned to look after him.

      She disputed the finding that the bullet wound was in his right temple, and insisted it was at the back of his neck. Such a position would suggest he could not have committed suicide and had been shot by someone else, she has maintained.

      “The entry wound was right at the back of the neck. There was no exit wound,” she said.”

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        Thanks, Pete, will have to include it if I finally get to the UK, and write my article about how the Thatcher government plotted his murder because it thought he was responsible for the Brighton hotel bombing.

    • N_

      Interesting fact related to the Mull of Kintyre helicopter crash that wiped out the top echelon of the British intelligence presence in Northern Ireland: US president Bill Clinton was meeting the pope. Given the state of play in the progress towards peace, I reckon said meeting included a section on Northern Ireland.

      • Trowbridge H. Ford

        Also, look at what Ian Phoenix wrote about how the political mood was changing in the province, and he needed a Barbour jacket for the trip, Finian Cunningham’s article about the trip, and my response to his very informative summary of what happen.

  • nevermind

    Looks like somebody can” t take any comparrison to their whinging here? Islamophobia, anti immgrant rethoric, here , in Europe and in the US, the anti Muslim violence in Myanmar, is as bad as the anti semitismn that always demands to be.headlined.

    Why is it that a minority concern always determines the news?

    • Sharp Ears

      Have just been doing some jobs, then switched on the BBC News Channel and there was Freedland again online from’ Central London’. Shaun Ley is the presenter. He is asking the appropriate questions. Freedland is criticizing Trump now.

    • Paul Greenwood

      Jonathan Freedland is pathetic. He is such a child of privilege. It is tiresome to hear people like him bleat to drown out the cries of victims of technological killing by his co-religionists. Typical Western Techno-Terrorism – fire a missile from 30,000 feet and be sanctified compared to the guy who fires a missile from his shoulder

    • N_

      It doesn’t surprise me that Freedland is saying that. Has he said it yet about criticising Philip Green?

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Wonder how many unwanted Arabs in Israel and the Occupied Terrorizes have been helped by HIAS to immigrate to the USA?

  • Roberto

    Just one of the unintended consequences of ZIRP, and property price inflation. The market will ultimately correct wretched excess, but not without pain.

  • Monteverdi

    I see Naftali Bennett the Israeli Minister of Education is being dispatched to Pittsburgh to ‘ comfort ‘ the survivors of the Pittsburgh shootings. This was the Naftali Bennett who was advocating the shooting to death of unarmed civilians at the fence surrounding Gaza. Also the same Naftali Bennett who as an IDF Officer knowingly targeted a UN base at Qana in Lebanon packed with civilians seeking refuge. causing a bloody massacre of men, women and children. There is something ironic about sending a psychopath to ‘comfort ‘ the survivors of another psychopath.

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/naftali-bennett-and-qana-massacre

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-says-idf-should-shoot-to-kill-gazans-who-cross-border/

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-defends-soldiers-filmed-cheering-gazans-shooting/

    Do the good Jews of Pittsburgh know who is coming among them acting as a grief counsellor ??

    • Charles Bostock

      נַפְתָּלִי בֶּנֶט‬ was the Minister for the Diaspora and therefore it is not so strange that he should be going to Pittsburgh.

      • Monteverdi

        It’s not his Ministerial title that is important. It’s is that with the links I’ve provided the irony of one of Israel’s top psychopaths being sent to ‘ comfort ‘ the victims of a US psychopath surely is blatantly obvious.

        * Naftali Bennett held US Citizenship up till 2013 when forced to relinquish it on gaining a seat in the Knesset. One of many Israelis so confident of Israel’s longevity they continue holding dual-citizenship !!

        • Herbie

          He’s a bit anti-Globalist, is Naftali:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaThF8wXC_E

          There are two factions, and they don’t agree on the way forward. The Globalist view of the future of Israel is not the Israeli Nationalist view of the future of Israel.

          Important to remember here that the Globalist view of the future of states applies worldwide. It isn’t Israel-specific.

          But yes, the Globalists took on a powerful force and seem to be reeling back from it now.

          Putin, Syria, the rise of the Right, Trump, Brexit etc are all phenomena associated with this fight amongst the gods.

          Dunno.

          Place your bets.

          In a kinda way it’s your more street-smart guys against the philosopher kings.

      • N_

        It’s not strange but it’s still makes me want to vomit. The victims were US citizens. They were not displaced Palestinians from the time of the fall of Jerusalem 2000 years ago.

    • Sharp Ears

      A Google search

      Pittsburgh killings ‘ 243,000,000 results’

      Gaza killings ‘About 2,340,000 results’

      Says it all.

      • Sharp Ears

        Gaza: three boys killed in Israeli airstrike, say Palestinian medics
        Israeli army says aircraft hit three Palestinians who approached security fence
        AP in Gaza City
        Sun 28 Oct 2018 21.10 GMT
        An explosion is seen during Israeli air strikes in Gaza on 27 October. Photograph: Ahmed Zakot/Reuters

        Palestinian medics say three boys aged 12 to 14 have been killed in an Israeli airstrike in the south-eastern Gaza Strip.
        Ashraf al-Kidra of the health ministry said ambulance crews were bringing the children’s bodies to a hospital from the perimeter fence dividing Gaza and Israel.

        The Israeli army said an aircraft hit three Palestinians who approached the security fence on Sunday “and were ++apparently involved in placing” an explosive device on to it.++ (Me – of course they were!)

        The Gaza-Israel border area has been volatile for months as the ++enclave’s Hamas rulers++ (Me – Hamas was elected) organise weekly protests there against a decade-long Israeli-Egyptian blockade. Egyptian mediators relentlessly urge the two sides separately to restore calm and prevent wider conflict.

        More than 160 Palestinians have been killed in the protests since March. One Israeli soldier was killed by a Palestinian sniper in July.
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/28/gaza-three-boys-killed-in-israeli-airstrike-say-palestinian-medics

        That is the best the Guardian can do – reprint an AP report.

  • Andy Holt

    If you change (and you have)Edinburgh into a city constantly in a state of festival and revelry, what do you expect! If I were to once again look into investing in holiday homes, Edinburgh would be high on my list of possible locations in which to invest.

  • Sharp Ears

    Bibi visits Oman. Reasons?
    The Sultan’s New Friend: Just Why Did Netanyahu Visit Oman?
    If we let our imagination run wild, Trump might now encourage the Saudi prince to promote an agreement with Israel to cleanse himself of the Khashoggi affair, with Israel’s visit to Oman part of the process
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-the-sultan-s-new-friend-just-why-did-bibi-visit-oman-1.6595856

    Ay mention of Yemen? Just this – ‘Sultan Qaboos, Oman’s absolute ruler, is the most veteran Arab leader; he came to power in a coup against his father in 1970. He opposes the Saudi war in Yemen, though he decided late to join the Arab coalition, and has even threatened to withdraw from the Gulf Cooperation Council due to his opposition to Saudi hegemony in the Gulf. When three Gulf states imposed an embargo on Qatar more than a year ago, Oman and Kuwait didn’t join this dramatic move and Oman even allowed Qatar free use of its ports to get around the blockade, setting a collision course with Saudi Arabia.’

  • Sharp Ears

    Alyyson Pollock is a leading light in the heavily supported movement to KEEP OUR NHS PUBLIC. She is a consultant in public health medicine in the NE. She retweeted this -.

    David Rosenberg
    @davidjrosenberg Oct 25
    Amazing action by twins who arrived on the kindertransport. An important message for all Labour Party members and supporters and Jcwish “leadership” bodies who are anti-Corbyn
    https://www.jcwishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/blog/90-year-old-twins/ … via @jvoicelabour

    There is a photo of them on the link.
    https://twitter.com/davidjrosenberg/status/1055407687733862401

    This retweet too.
    Allyson Pollock Retweeted
    Keep Our NHS Public
    @keepnhspublic
    Oct 26
    Plymouth Hospital to outsource entire elective orthopaedic service to private company Care U.K. Pls RT if you think this really is a dangerous and utterly RUBBISH idea
    __
    Care UK was chaired by John Nash, Education Minister and Tory donor and now a Tory peer. It provides 8,000 beds for residential care which some local authorities are paying for and has several ‘hospitals’ ie ‘treatment centres’ where they carry out elective surgery under contract to the NHS. Their income from this surgery/’treatment’ is £357m. Care UK was ‘acquired’ by Bridgepoint Capital, a US owned private equity outfit, whose European Advisory Board includes Alan Milburn, ex Liebour Health Minister and appointee of Agent Cameron to investigate social mobility! He is a millionaire. Lord Patten was on the same board but he has pushed off to Oxford University to become its Chancellor. Lord Stuart Rose, ex M&S chair, is also on the Bridgepoint board.

    US ‘asset manager’ BlackRock is a major investor in the ‘care industry’. They have recently employed Gideon George Osborne for 2 days a week @ £650,000 pa. This is one instance of his usefulness to them –

    BlackRock makes £95m bet on UK private healthcare
    Sector presents a big consolidation opportunity, and BlackRock has former Chancellor George Osborne to help manage political risk
    April 26, 2018 https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/blackrock-makes-95m-bet-on-uk-private-healthcare-20180426

    https://www.ipe.com/news/uk-care-specialist-gets-blackrock-backing-to-pursue-acquisitions/realassets.ipe.com/news/uk-care-specialist-gets-blackrock-backing-to-pursue-acquisitions/10024336.fullarticle

    THEY are ALL in IT TOGETHER.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nash,_Baron_Nash
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Care_UK

    Like rats in the granary, these individuals and outfits are gnawing away at the body of OUR NHS.

  • Sharp Ears

    Bolsonaro – another Trumpian president. He will ‘govern according to the Bible’. That should be interesting.

    ‘Many Brazilians are concerned that Mr Bolsonaro, an admirer of the dictatorship and a defender of its use of torture on leftist opponents, will trample on human rights, curtail civil liberties and muzzle freedom of speech.

    Human Rights Watch called on Brazilian judges, prosecutors, media and civil society to stand up against any attempt by Mr Bolsonaro to “erode the democratic rights and institutions Brazil has painstakingly built in the last three decades”.

    In his acceptance speech, Mr Bolsonaro promised to govern according to the Bible and the country’s Constitution. The live broadcast of Mr Bolsonaro’s words was preceded by a prayer led by lawmaker, pastor and gospel singer Magno Malta, underscoring Mr Bolsonaro’s ties to evangelical churches that backed him for supporting their conservative social agenda.’

    https://www.straitstimes.com/world/americas/far-right-candidate-bolsonaro-wins-brazil-vote-official-results

    Same old. Same old.

    • Paul Greenwood

      Evangelical churches are waxing in Brasil as people seek a more dynamic future than Brasilian Catholicism had on offer. Time for some security and some honesty in Brasil

  • Clive p

    Yet another load of rubbish from Luke Harding in the Guardian this morning. It implies that Trump was seen as useful by the Czech intelligence agencies. His father-in-law was asked to gain stuff from his daughter (Ivana). The vital intelligence they gained was that Bush might win the 1988 election- brilliant! The actual information content of the article is about nil.

    • Paul Greenwood

      Yes and I have no doubt Larry Summers was useful to Israel and that Mark Carney has been useful to CSIS

  • Republicofscotland

    Big decision coming up that could allow NHS England to become further privatised.

    “NHS England is currently holding a consultation on the rollout of a new system of health and social care provision known as Integrated Care Provider (ICP) contracts.”

    “The fact the name Accountable Care Organisations derives from the US healthcare system, where private companies are notorious for limiting patients’ access to care to save money, is also one reason for the rebranding exercise.”

    http://archive.is/rRisR

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