Boris Johnson has crossed the Rubicon today by announcing the suspension of Parliament at this crucial time, no matter how many days the suspension lasts. The United Kingdom has found itself with the most right wing government in nearly two hundred years. I still find it hard to believe that Sajid Javid, Dominic Raab and Priti Patel hold great offices. Even that minority of those voting who put this Tory minority government in place did not expect that. Now that right wing coup is being doubled down on by the deliberate suspension of the Westminster parliament just as the most crucial and divisive issue in several generations is being resolved.
There is an irony here. Johnson has been able to take over without facing the electorate because of the polite constitutional fiction that it is the same Conservative government continuing and nothing has changed. Yet he justifies the prorogation of parliament by the argument that it is a new government and a new Queen’s Speech is thus needed. Johnson is of course famously in favour of having cake and eating it, but the chutzpah of this is breathtaking.
As countries slip to the far right, the failure of the more decent forces in society to unite and to react with sufficient vigour is crucial. Jo Swinson and others need to stop their caviling and get behind Jeremy Corbyn’s no confidence plans.
Here in Scotland, it ought to be a matter of deep shame if we do not now immediately move decisively to claim Independence. The SNP needs to stop prattling on as if keeping the UK in the EU was the priority. No. The priority is Independence, and Independence Now. If the leadership of the SNP want a referendum, they should move now to hold it within a few months, this year. Otherwise they should dissolve Holyrood and hold a Holyrood election with the declared aim of declaring Independence if there is a majority won for that. It is now inevitable that, if the SNP continues to shilly shally on Independence, a new party will arise in response to public opinion, to outflank and challenge them by prioritising Independence. Hopefully Johnson’s new move will finally kick the SNP to act NOW and make that unnecessary.
Well said, Craig.
Boris never saw a Hornets Nest he didn’t want to hit with a stick, and run away from. The difference this time is that running away is not an option 🙂
People on this blog attempting to defend Johnson’s actions are being naive, stupid or posting deliberately on his behalf. Without needing to reprise all the arguments about the legitimacy of the Brexit vote, or what it has raised about democracy, it does n’t need a small boy in the crowd to make it aware of what is really happening. This is a deliberate, carefully plotted and calibrated attempt to stifle parliament and to pave the way open for entry into a WTO rule based world and cultural and social isolationism.
What I am interested in is what can now be done? Demonstrations? General Strike? Badgering and harassment of brexiteering bullies? Embargoes on drinking in a Wetherspoons? “Johnson is a scumbag” tee shirts? Open to all ideas.
Everything you say is correct Craig.
But I wouldn’t rely on the SNP doing anything. Nicola hasn’t even recalled the Scottish parliament from it’s summer recess. That would be the first thing to do.
I voted to leave The EU, because The EU is a very important part of the Globalist New World Order of which I do not approve, because it is a Centralised Dictatorship, which in my view is very close to whatever political label you despise (and we might actually agree on that).
Because I voted to leave the EU, as did the majority in a Referendum, I expect the most basic rules of Democracy, to be obeyed by the people we elected to do what we told them to do, and which they quite clearly agreed to do, but have not yet done.
So do it.
We told you.
It seems the Queen agrees.
All other arguments are irrelevant if you believe in the concept of Democracy.
Tony
Makes no sense, “we” control our own currency. Set policy that really has much more significant control over peoples lives.
It’s a total red herring. Diversion. You really feel your under an EU dictatorship? Sorry but it’s laughable.
& before other say thats exactly why Scotland etc. Scotland does not have its own, it would have to make it & face the effects of doing that etc. .
It was globalist finance and dark money that skewed that referendum, based upon the same false promises that Trump dished out. You will be at the mercy of such financial interests if there is a no deal Brexit – any Brexit. Any support for this corrupt Government, one that has up till now brought eternal hardship upon this nation through austerity, is support for a radicalisation of more and more again. This is a Royal Prerogative, not a people’s one – and Parliament may be our only hope now.
The EU has called this sinister because it is, and they ought to know. But there will only be tears from an intensification of this right wing hegemony, because they will do absolutely nothing for most of the people in this country except harm; they always have done. Maybe Johnson is aiming for an election and hoping to buy people off – after all, he has left Parliament a huge three days to work up a plan the EU gets together on the issue and rest of the month of October, perhaps (?) – with a few million here and there in education and so on. because surely he knows that people have had enough of austerity. That’s the case even if you, Tony, do not.
But this whole thing about Brexit was driven by internal Tory politics, specifically the desire to iron out the differences between their two wings. We must free ourselves of their contemptuous self-interested agenda of entitlement and to start this we must kick this vile episode into touch immediately. There are battles ahead against other reactionary forces in Labour and the Liberal Democrats. But all parties must work together now to stop this.
The basic rule of democracy is that the power is with the people. However, the strange Tory/Farage formulation of this is that they grant the power to only vote once, and after that all power is stripped away from the people because they can never be allowed to vote again. A very strange notion of democracy.
In an actual democracy, the people are allowed to change their mind. And, in an actual democracy, going back to the people to approve the final deal, or no-deal, terms of exit is a very proper thing to do. Especially when the first vote was held on the basis of promised unicorn parades and now the country is facing something that was not promised nor debated in that first vote. Because, in a democracy, that power resides with the people and the government should always be following the people’s wishes. Not just the wishes that were somehow chiseled into stone over 3 years ago, but on a daily basis.
You can’t use “democracy” as an excuse when you are now forbidding the people having a vote, and now when you are pulling medieval machinations to prevent even the elected representatives of the people from having a say in things.
As if she can do anything else but agree.
She could have refused to take a decision, and indicated to Johnson to think again.
“All other arguments are irrelevant if you believe in the concept of Democracy.”
Which democracy are you referring to? Democracy as in people voting in an advisory election for the benefit of internal Tory party political expediency, run illegally and based on lies, or the parliamentary democracy where people elect MPs to make decisions on their behalf based on theirs and the national interest? You can’t have both, you either have parliamentary democracy or a “centralised dictatorship”, which you oppose.
And in the EU referendum seven in ten voters in Scotland voted to remain but are being dragged out regardless.
Democracy? Don’t make me laugh!
Trouble is, the referendum turned out pretty close to the quote oft misattributed to Thomas Jefferson, ” Democracy is nothing more than Mob Rule where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%”
Thats why advanced societies insist upon Supermajorities before making fundamental changes.
“…a new party will arise…”. Not an evil nationalist populist party, we hope. More like this model of rationality –
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/wings-over-scotland-plans-new-pro-independence-party-to-take-on-snp-1-4981043
The Bathist party?
That quaint old Englishman, Isaac Newton, when expressing his now outdated and simplistic views of how the universe worked stated “Every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction.” There won’t be one new party, but two. If one forms, a second will form to oppose the first.
The best choice for Scotland is to get as far away from England as possible. Personally, I’d recommend taking a concrete saw and cutting across the line separating from England and then moving the whole of Scotland someplace far, far away from the English pirates.
No disrespect but we actually need your namesake, Thomas Paine. Where is he now when he’s needed.
Out of the country as always.
Great stuff. I look forward to redistributing the Barnett Formula budget in England or using it for our own infrastructure. I imagine Trump could be induced to buy Scotland, but how much you’d get out of the bigliest golf course on earth, I’m not sure.
In a recent paper written by Professor Jim Gallagher and published by the Fabian Society, he states class identity has lost out to national identity, because most people are a bit better off.
In my book the biggest argument for Scottish independence is right now both national and local government exist to serve the elite while the wealth gap between rich and poor is increasing. National government created austerity and denied or gave funds or resources to local government dependent on involvement and/or stability. Thus parliament maintains a financial lever against dissent.
English institutions and parliamentary sovereignty ensure laws and practices are in place together with nepotism,bias and cronyism that protects the Establishment and Privy council modus from revision. This includes maintenance of the corrupt and specious British intelligence services.
I firmly believe an autonomous Scotland will shape and charge a future where existence and integrity stem from decency and benevolence.
https://fabians.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/v6-4154-FS-Progressive-Fed.pdf
“I firmly believe an autonomous Scotland will shape and charge a future where existence and integrity stem from decency and benevolence.”
That would be nice Mark, but Alex Salmond, after his recent experiences might be inclined to disagree with you on some of those points.
In my opinion there is no such thing as perfect governance. It is always a battle of some sort. I still personally believe that Scotland’s interests are better served by independence, but independence would be unlikely to result in Utopia for Scots.
That’s just my opinion. You are entitled to disagree.
I don’t think something I need to firmly believe in fills me with optimism. Id rather know reality. & see clearly laid out plans. Forecasting effects, knowing the uncertainties. etc.
& Before.
professor jim gallagher isnt a professor he is gordon browns side kick
https://www.ericjoyce.co.uk/2016/10/the-anti-independence-professor-who-isnt-quite-what-he-seems/
Two new Privy Counsellors were created today, pals of Johnson and from the same background.
Lord Hunt of Ashton. Eton and Trinity College Oxford, Royal Hussars blah blah. An insurance broker so has done nicely from our overpriced insurance premiums. He is now the chair of Lloyds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ashton,_4th_Baron_Ashton_of_Hyde
James Cleverly, chairman of the Tory partei. Privately educated, British Army. High rank in the TA, blah blah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cleverly
The Privy Council, thus named after the fact that a monarch used to be observed using the facilities and the products examined by them. No not really! Just a secretive grouping of those who have been set in power over us, + the gangsters in charge + various other hoi polloi. 700 members no less. Blair is on the list of course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_British_Privy_Council#C
From the Register of Interests for Lord Ashton of Hyde.
‘Farm and cottages in Gloucestershire owned jointly with wife, from which rental income is received
Property in Eastbourne, Nottingham, Newcastle and Hinckley from which rental income is received.’
https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-ashton-of-hyde/4247
He’s only doing his bit for the country’s housing crisis!
Cleverly, formerly a member of the London Assembly, was a candidate in the Tory leadership campaign and received donations for that. He is also a member of Conservative Friends of Israel and went to Israel on one of their funded jollies in 2015.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=25376
He has been an MP since May 2015 and between then and now, he has been on funded trips to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia – and Israel as I said. He obviously likes foreign travel!
He declared income from the London Assembly of £18,000 as ‘abated salary’ in 2015 for 24 hrs ‘work’ per month and pay from the TA of £7,000. This lot know how to collect the spondulicks.
Ishmael…. Leave or Remain. Its as binary as it gets !
As I said David. That’s not what it is in reality. The vote was, the event is all together not, thus opening the door to all kinds of railroading as we see.
It was lies from the start.
Jo Swinson Really?
Voted for requiring the mass retention of information rise about communications.July 2017 Swinson took a personal donation of £10,000 from Mark Petterson, director of Warwick Energy – a company with fracking licences across England – and a further £4,000 in January 2018. This was after she had voted against an eighteen-month fracking ban, against a review of the industry’s environmental, health and social effects and against requiring frackers to get environmental permits.Jo Swinson is beyond the pale.“Swinson’s voting record shows that she consistently voted to reduce welfare and benefits, including cutting payments for people with illnesses or disabilities. She also voted to cut the Educational Maintenance Allowance for 16-to-19-year-olds. And she helped to raise university tuition fees.Swinson also voted for the Bedroom tax, and for a cap on public the sector pay rise.Voted for requiring the mass retention of information.
So it`s all right for a Remainer to prorogued parliament but not a leaver.
John Major who wants to ignore the referendum result came out recently and said he would stop Boris Johnson if he tried to prorogued parliament.Yet being a hypocrite of the highest order and hates the working class because he knows better.
Prime Minister John Major prorogued parliament for a general election, to be held on 1 May 1997 because of the Cash for questions report.
I find the most disgusting people I have encountered are hypocrites.
Hard to take the UK’s political class seriously when they talk about a crisis but go on holiday.
Nice point, MrJohn. Some of them work hard, but many of them are underworked and almost all are overpaid.
What Johnson did today is the sort of thing Bismarck would have done.
Bismarck wasn’t faced with a split country. He knew Germans would go along with his project. Today Johnson is trying to force through something which doesn’t have majority support. If anyone claims that last statement is wrong, let’s have a vote to decide.
I now read on Dominic Cummings’s Wikipedia page that he is a great admirer of Bismarck, and I made my earlier comment in total ignorance of that fact.
Its been said before that forcing a no-deal Brexit would break up and end the United Kingdom. When I read this news this morning, my thought was that this will likely end the monarchy. My feeling is still that a no-deal Brexit is going to be very unpopular after it occurs. The Queen getting involved with forcing this is going to make the Queen be very unpopular. Megan and Harry will likely move to Hollywood, as now Megan will need to go back to her old day job to pay for the baby food without the royal incomes.
When the sorts of economic drops forecast by the BOE come due, people are going to be very angry. The last great recession was somehow presented to the people as an act-of-god sort of thing, a natural event, and people just needed to carry on through it like always with the capitalist business cycles. Not the next one. The next one is going to have Boris the Spider’s smiling face plastered all over it. And now the Queen’s as well. Neither will be particularly happy about it six months from now.
Go Scotland! Fly! Be Free!
When’s the March?
I will personally hang draw and quarter Blah Blah Johnson if I see him.
He is shit scared of Farage scuttling the Tory party. We will deal with Farage later.
In the meantime obviously Blah Blah didn’t have his bottom smacked sufficiently as a child, possibly because of his mother’s nervous breakdowns over Johnson’s father’s continual marital infidelities.
Erdogan is locking up elected Mayors and journalists. Blah Blah Johnson has locked out the elected legislature.
A couple are standing outside the entrance to Balmoral where a BBC reporter is observing the comings and goings.. The man is waving a large Irish flag and the woman is displaying one showing the EU symbol.
??
Perhaps signalling that a highly likely result of all this is a unified Ireland and an independent Scotland, both of which are members of the EU?
The statement is out. Signed by Richard Tillbrook. Parliament is to be prorogued from the 9th of September to the 14th October, when the Queen’s Speech is due to be delivered. Her views would be welcome. Her judgement on this appears questionable, if she has made the decision herself. If someone else has issued the statement on her behalf, delivering a fait accompli, then this possibility is not to be discounted
I’d doubt she has any understanding of what this all means, but instinct will have told her that if it’s favoured by Boris it will be good for the plutocracy.
Rees-Mogg probably turned up with Prince Andrew’s MI5 file.
On form today Deb! ?
The Mooth is resigning. Just nipping out to Tesco for some popcorn.
A carefully caculated stunt to aid career progression.
Probably, but what projection of future? Do the Scottish Tories have private polling? Questions targeted at wargaming the Yes vote in different circumstances? If so, what do the numbers say in a Crash-out Brexit? Ruth Davidson, leader of the Conservative opposition in the first (real) Scottish Parliament?
It is as if a chemical reaction is occuring. Who’s next?
Oh that’s sneaky, Scottish Labour piling in with glowing obituaries for the career of Ruth Davidson knowing full well that the Scottish Tories can’t ’till the resignation is official. Trying to hoover up Unionist votes falling off the back of Ruth’s bandwagon. Uncharacteristicly smart for Scottish Labour? Not really, first one in was little Ian Murray (i) Richard Leonard followed with a cut and paste job.
(i) Ian Murray is no run of the mill, Scottish Labour dummy. He could out Fox a weasel.
Boris has produced a masterful lesson in statecraft. After two years of bumbling political musical chairs we are now on track to get what we voted for. There remain the tired old legal challenges which will rake over the ashes of the remain campaign. If it reaches the Supreme Court, it will be booted into the long grass, like its previous incarnation.
You do realise that ~70% of the UK population oppose a no deal brexit, don’t you?
So it would seem it was not Boris Johnson meeting the Queen in Balmoral but his leg man Jacob Rees-Mog
Leader of the House Jacob Rees-Mogg, who was at the meeting with the Queen, said the move was a “completely proper constitutional procedure.”
MN
Posh speak for dodgy but legal.
There’s nothing more free than a ride in somebody else’s Roller.
Johnson might be able to conjugate Latin verbs but he has no idea whatsoever what he has done today on the advice of his rogue advisor Cummings.
Johnson only does sexual urges. He has no intellect so he doesn’t get it.
If you despise democracy by proroguing parliament you simultaneously despise the democracy of a referendum.
If parliament is abolished then the referendum is equally abolished.
==> we are no longer a democracy.
Iraq, Sudan , Pakistan and China are more democratic. We are ruled now by a small clique of Zionist dictators who will take us to war with israel’ s enemies in exchange for a slight lightening of austerity and a total loss of value in the pound.
We will then be bought as a job lot in a farm sale. The vultures are lining up to buy us like a bit of old , decaying harness with wood worm and straw stuffing coming out of it.
One pound – what am I bid?
A complete nation comprising four parts all sold as one lot.
Sold to the gentleman in the deerstalker hat for a pound.
HMQ’s decision was advised by an “Order in Council” made at a meeting of the Privy Council today. The Privy Council has seven hundred members, and a quorum of three. Today’s meeting was attended by just three Privy Councillors – all Tories, and including Rees Smug himself. Who would know better how to piss on democracy?
Well said, Craig. Johnson’s suspension of Parliament was always likely to be the endgame for a right-wing establishment that knows it is acting against the wishes and interests of the British people, and can no longer rely on democracy to deliver the ‘right’ result.
The positive is that this situation will smoke out once and for all the closet Tories hiding on the opposition benches and in other key positions in the UK. Will they help bring down Johnson’s regime or not?
Whoever cuts our democracy we will go to Downing Street and cut his throat and bleed his pallid corpse into the Thames.
We never asked for May’s hard Brexit and we certainly never asked for Nazi Brexit.
This is Trump’ s doing because he thought he could get his hands on our NHS like he thought he could get his hands on Greenland.
Trump can smell the Tory snakeoil
The pm has signed today for civil war.
But in this case both the pm and the monarch will be executed for treason and loaded onto the sewage barges.
All that is required from the vote to Leave is for us to leave the EU retaining the historical advantages of free movement of goods and people. If sicko racists get their Nazi Brexit there will be civil war.
Chill, it may never happen. …& even if “it” does.
Personally I can’t get that passionate about “our democracy” ..Iv never noticed that much of it about to be fair.
I’m as chilled as dry ice on a verrucca.
Now this won’t hurt…
Don’t you meditate/pray or something? We are on the right side, could be worse.
I’m all for action but dunno. …Hung draw and quarter’d ? Bit too quick perhaps ?
But seriously, I do get it, but then iv seen the far right locally. Hiding behind clearly necessary police protection. This ain’t nazi Germany. & the base they are now playing to are really not solid, At all.
What referendumb, Craig?
You don’t need referendumb to become independent.
In fact having a referendumb is tantamount to abandoning Indy
You should just declare independence and that’s all you need to do.
You should also maybe stage a Baltic way type event where enough Indy supporters should line up on streets holding hands and making little lights with cellphones – for the world to see (and mom) but even that is not strictly necessary.
That’s how all those ex Yugoslavia countries got independent
” That’s how all those ex Yugoslavia countries got independent ”
Yes ten years of insurgencies and civil wars, 140,000 dead and 4 million refugees were merely coincidental.
Russia let everybody go – even the three crappy socalled Baltic nations although in two of them the title nationality was not in a majority and they had had no meaningful history of prior statehood unlike Scotland.
The rump UK has no guts to wage an anti-Indy campaign and frankly no forces and no resources. All they can do to stop independence is to throw their laws and rules at Scotland including those pertaining to referendumbs.
The nationalist party has been returned to power in Scotland? Fine! That’s enough of a mandate to declare independence!
I’ve just read that Ruth Davidson is about to resign, possibly tomorrow.
If the SNP don’t act now, Sturgeon should follow suit.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/ruth-davidson-set-to-resign-as-scottish-tory-leader-1-4993182
Ding dong the witch is erm..resigning, yes the unionist STV are carrying the story on their programme, that Colonel Ruth is no longer the head of the branch office in Scotland.
As ever the unionist STV news are going with Ruth’s quitting as leader to spend more time with the family, she’s still protected by the media.
Well the coackroaches will be coming out of the woodwork, in the shape of Tomkins and Fraser, vying to be leader of a insignificant branch office in Scotland.
As for Ruth good riddance, is about as polite a thing I can say about her.
The news just says probably resigning as Tory leader. Chances are she will hang in as an MSP.
I’m jealous of Brexit voters. They seem to have ended up with with a leader that is at least trying to deliver what they asked for.
Politics should be like that all the time but we seem to always end up with careerist morons, entrenched in their determination to keep their jobs, be clever, and avoid risk.
Scotland is dominated by these types. It’s a country managed by petty little men who wear blazers, bonnets, and badges, constantly leaping to tell you what the safe and prudent thing to do is.
I’ve been hoping all my life that they’d die off and take their stifling ideas with them but it hasn’t happened; there’s an unending army of morons waiting to fill the brogues left behind.
I guess that’s why we sing about Scotland the Brave and sending English bullies home “to think again”. It’s pure fantasy and people always fantasise about the things they’ll never do.
A big part of me thinks Scotland deserves to be treated like crap. We deserve Boris, Brexit, nukes on the Clyde, along with all the other humiliations that punctuate our country’s miserable autobiography.
“I’m jealous of Brexit voters. They seem to have ended up with with a leader that is at least trying to deliver what they asked for.”
O please, spare us the everyman Boris Bull.
Twisted post.
He’s running rings around your old man…
lol. He’s not my old man, just a messenger of the current political currents. …Ones not made of solid air.
“They seem to have ended up with with a leader that is at least trying to deliver what they asked for. ”
Except no one asked for a no deal Brexit, which is opposed by ~70% of people.
While we’re all frothing at the mouth for various reasons, here’s a clip of a TV Dinner Date between Nigel Farage and Rachel Johnson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxDLuQxS1Ok
It is amusing juxtaposing this to Craig’s Rhetoric/Propaganda
The Welsh politicians are to recall the Assembly with regards to Johnson’s proroguing of parliament.
The Welsh appear to be quick off the mark good for them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-49496447
All I’ve read today from Sturgeon is just the same whine about how it’s undemocratic and it’s how dictators act. She has NO plan, she has NEVER had a plan and is completely out of her depth.
Shameless charlatan.
Well I’ve not quite given up yet on Sturgeon making a move, I’ll give her till we know the outcome of Brexit, she at least deserves that much.
First chance she got, she jumped in front of a camera and came out with the usual moaning-faced crap. When people do that you know they’re doing nothing.
A more serious politician, i.e. one with a plan or some sort of political goal, would have called some sort of cabinet meeting, kept their powder dry, and responded with something considered and constructive.
Exactly. Hatuey is 100% correct on this. In my opinion, of course.
Reading Sturgeons Twitter, it could be that she is hoping that a GE will be called. I can only surmise that a resounding win for the SNP in Scotland might class as a independence victory.
However I’m still giving her to the outcome of Brexit, we are not privy to any possible SNP plan post-Brexit. If there isn’t one well that’s a different matter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
The thing about Gondo is the he didn’t ever appear…
Its Godot not Gondo.
And even though he didn’t appear discussion were plenty among new characters met.
Ty for the corrections. Who is gondo?
“Royal prerogative is the subject of controversy, because it confers on governments the power to make major decisions without recourse to parliament. When Edward Heath brought Britain into the EEC in 1972, parliament was not consulted until afterwards.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/may/16/qanda.jubilee
When will people understand that getting us into the EU (pretending it was just a trade deal) was a *Tory* plot? Anybody who sides with the Left for the sake of the British working classes should stand with Dennis Skinner against membership of the EU.
Brexit’s not really a left-right issue, but there are people who love to exploit that.
Three pages of mostly the same old crap from remainers: dark money; Facebook manipulation; Tory plot; ignorant racists. Anything except facing up to the truth: the EU and it’s austerity policy, ably assisted by it’s free movement policy, have run our masses into the ground, our masses know it, and they said ‘enough is enough’.
So instead we’ve opted for years of austerity mass job losses, empty supermarket shelves, a lack of medicines, out of many EU bodies on medicine and science, not enough EU NHS staff or doctors, no EU labour to pick our soft fruits, the pound taking a further nose dive, and that’s just off the top of my head.
Oh you’re about to face up to the truth, the hard truth of a no deal Brexit very soon sunshine.
I predict that the immedieate effect of a hard brexit won’t even be one tenth as bad as the likes of yourself are predicting. And I predict that six months later people will be wondering what all the fuss was about. My crystal ball is better than yours because you base your predictions on the advice of people who have consistently got it wrong for the last three years.
Not my predictions most are government white paper reports, why do you think Westminster is stocking up.
Of course Westminster has a contingency plan Operation Yellowhammer, I’m sure you’ve heard of it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yellowhammer
Yes, the daft ‘assessment’ produced by remain civil servants for Theresa May’s remain government. I thought the ‘assessment’ that up to 85% of our hauliers will turn up at the borders unprepared was particularly hilarious. Talk about just making stuff up!
Austerity in the UK has absolutely nothing to do with Brussels or Frankfurt. It is a Tory and Lib Dem ideological measure, supported wholeheartedly every step of the way by Boris Johnson and his entire cabinet. Johnson was also one of Britain’s most vocal supporter of freedom of movement throughout his time as mayor of London. He and his cabinet have got further plans for the masses which, with the aid of Donald Trump, will see us dug much further into the ground.
Austerity in the UK has absolutely everything to do with the EU: it is a core EU policy, and member states aren’t allowed to produce budgets that are anything else. Look what happened when Italy recently tried to do so. Blaming the UK government for this is 100% disingenuous. In fact, Phillip Hammond, toward the end of his chancellorship, announced that austerity policy would be ended once we left the EU.
Tone, Italy is subject to EU budgetary constraints only because it’s part of the eurozone. If you think the UK is also part of the eurozone you should not be commenting on anything to do with Brexit, even to your own family.
If you don’t understand that EU fiscal policy on national budgets applies to all member states, then you are the one who needs to desist from commenting on brexit. We are all required to play on a level economic playing field wrt our national budgets. That’s one of the problems I have with remainers: they think they can play fast and loose with facts and truth, so long as they are supporting the remain cause.
Austerity definition :
A false explanation for the loss of money actually incurred by the charging of lending interest and other hidden charges by financial institutions.
The 80% of the economy which is services doesn’t make any money.
It just eats what we make in rather larger quantities than would be acceptable to most people.
Thatcher spotted an economic loophole by which civilised nonsmelly employment could be created out of the money that socialism gave to ordinary people.
That fake income would then be taxed and used to regulate the incomes of the underpaid.
More profit could be made by manufacturing abroad than at home. This became the Thatcher Settlement by which employment levels are sustained while people actually do fuck all.
There usn absolutely no austerity among the importers or services sectors. Austerity is an economic theory by which social funding is redistributed to office work , taxed and leaked by benefits to manual workers.
It has sod all to do with the UK or the EU. It is a system of homogenising the incomes of drones.
How come people can demonstrate in Hong Kong but nobody dares risk getting kettled here in the UK? Because we all know that most of our jobs are fake jobs and we are mostly expendable. If you object to the system, be prepared for bankruptcy and divorce.
Big Brother is expanding from 24/7 spying to being able to map your mind.
His voice is like Johnson’s posh and totally assured that you will totally conform.
“our masses know it, and they said ‘enough is enough’.”
I’ve noticed a pattern in your posts where you assume to be talking on behalf of a majority of people (i.e. the masses). However all opinion polls show a majority of people, around 70% (some polls show 77%) oppose a no-deal Brexit. So, please stop this delusional pretence of being the peoples guardian angel of democracy.
Oh, I’m terribly sorry, Deb O’Nair for upsetting you by my noticing what just about every brexiter on every internet forum, comments section, TV show and in person brings up as a major reason for their dislike of the EU.
Amazing, they all say just the same thing.
You’d think they were just parroting talking points set by some wanna be demigod..
& now they are ALL saying austerity is imposed by the EU? lol .I wonder where that “fact’ came from.
As desperate as you remainers are to want everyone to believe that brexiters are thick racists who were conned by Facebook spam (Craig doesn’t buy into that nonsense btw), they all say it because they see it as it is. It’s astonishing how many remainers parrot this lie about austerity not being official EU policy. It’s almost Orwellian.
Why should he abandon austerity? He’d not be where he is without it.
He’ll disenfranchise more people, then attempt to capitalise on the misery, in the mean time, as a class? They are raking it in.
Tony
Are you not glad you are on the same page as the great orange leader?
Oh dear.You are trying to take the debate to the bottom. Godwin’s law, here we come.
I still find it hard to believe that Sajid Javid, Dominic Raab and Priti Patel hold great offices.
You can add Michael ‘three wars at once’ Gove, obnoxious Elizabeth Truss; Andrea ‘Leadsome, Gavin ‘let’s fight Russia and China’ Williamson and the very authoritarian ex-military man Ben Wallace to that list. Thankfully, they have little power to implement major change, hamstrung as this govt are by the lack of a majority. The definition of ‘in office but not in power’.
Wouldn’t hold out much hope for Jo Swinson acting maturely. She seems very childish and petulant. Tim Farron was vastly superior and he wasn’t all that great. Swinson was raising the prospect of Tory MPs not supporting a motion of no-confidence because of Corbyn, before even Tory MPs themselves were, how pathetic is that. Swinson is a Blairite equivalent of Veruca Salt, with her it’s all about Me! Me! Me!
And to add on Scotland…
Yes, I agree, what are the SNP waiting for, an engraved invitation? Sturgeon needs to remember why her party formed in the first place, regardless of how comfortable she’s become with the trappings of power. Holyrood’s MMP system may not even deliver another majority for a referendum, even if underlying polling support for independence improves – sounds contradictory, but it is possible, if other variables -like a leader’s waning popularity- come into play. So strike while in control; while the iron is hot.
To celebrate the mask being ripped off and the impending velvet glove being removed to FINALLY show the charade of democracy expliding.
I give you Springtime for bobo.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsql523bSj4&feature=youtu.be
The New Statesman suggests that this is a lot about nothing as parliament was already going to be out for most of the prorogued period because of party conferences and that Boris has simply added one week. Whether he he is right or wrong will in part depend upon whether it facilitates a realisation on the part of his EU counterparts that the risk of a no deal is a real risk and that he is not just Theresa on steroids. Then there might be a sensible deal. If not…
It surprises me that Labour have not sought to extract a constitution out of the situation. It doesn’t sound sexy but the EU accidentally brought us the only constitutional check on parliament we have known – through the development of the UK’s courts willingness to impose a purposive interpretation of parliament’s enactment of UK directives.
Post Brexit we revert to a literal interpretation.
Maybe both Boris and Jezza would prefer no judicial fetter on parliamentary power and maybe voters don’t care, but this should not be ignored.
If Bois gets something out of Europe and returns to Parliament for approval why not demand a constitution in return. The current uncertainty about proroguing serves to further emphasise that we need a constitution.
Of course no one will be bothered to think about this – too difficult and not enough time.