It is very difficult to collect my thoughts into something coherent after four hours sleep in the last 48 hours, but these are heads of key issues to be developed later.
I have no doubt that the Johnson government will very quickly become the most unpopular in UK political history. The ultra-hard Brexit he is pushing will not be the panacea which the deluded anticipate. It will have a negative economic impact felt most keenly in the remaining industry of the Midlands and North East of England. Deregulation will worsen conditions for those fortunate enough to have employment, as will further benefits squeezes. Immigration will not in practice reduce; what will reduce are the rights and conditions for the immigrants.
Decaying, left-behind towns will moulder further. The fishing industry will very quickly be sold down the river in trade negotiations with the EU – access to fishing (and most of the UK fishing grounds are Scottish) is one of the few decent offers Boris has to make to the EU in seeking market access. His Brexit deal will take years and be overwhelmingly fashioned to benefit the City of London.
There is zero chance the Conservatives will employ a sizeable number of extra nurses: they just will not be prepared to put in the money. They will employ more policemen. In a couple of years time they will need them for widespread riots. They will not build any significant portion of the hospitals or other infrastructure they promised. They most certainly will do nothing effective about climate change. These were simply dishonest promises. The NHS will continue to crumble with more and more of its service provision contracted out, and more and more of its money going into private shareholders’ pockets (including many Tory MPs).
The disillusionment will be on the same scale as Johnson’s bombastic promises. The Establishment are not stupid and realise there will be an anti-Tory reaction. Their major effort will therefore be to change Labour back into a party supporting neo-liberal economic policy and neo-conservative foreign (or rather war) policy. They will want to be quite certain that, having seen off the Labour Party’s popular European style social democratic programme with Brexit anti-immigrant fervour, the electorate have no effective non-right wing choice at the next election, just like in the Blair years.
To that end, every Blairite horror has been resurrected already by the BBC to tell us that the Labour Party must now move right – McNicol, McTernan, Campbell, Hazarayika and many more, not to mention the platforms given to Caroline Flint, Ruth Smeeth and John Mann. The most important immediate fight for radicals in England is to maintain Labour as a mainstream European social democratic party and resist its reversion to a Clinton style right wing ultra capitalist party. Whether that is possible depends how many of the Momentum generation lose heart and quit.
Northern Ireland is perhaps the most important story of this election, with a seismic shift in a net gain of two seats in Belfast from the Unionists, plus the replacement of a unionist independent by the Alliance Party. Irish reunification is now very much on the agenda. The largesse to the DUP will be cut off now Boris does not need them.
For me personally, Scotland is the most important development of all. A stunning result for the SNP. The SNP result gave them a bigger voter share in Scotland than the Tories got in the UK. So if Johnson got a “stonking mandate for Brexit”, as he just claimed in his private school idiom, the SNP got a “stonking mandate” for Independence.
I hope the SNP learnt the lesson that by being much more upfront about Independence than in the disastrous “don’t mention Independence” election of 2017, the SNP got spectacularly better results.
I refrained from criticising the SNP leadership during the campaign, even to the extent of not supporting my friend Stu Campbell when he was criticised for doing so (and I did advise him to wait until after election day). But I can say now that the election events, which are perfect for promoting Independence, are not necessarily welcome to the gradualists in the SNP. A “stonking mandate” for Independence and a brutal Johnson government treating Scotland with total disrespect leaves no room for hedge or haver. The SNP needs to strike now, within weeks not months, to organise a new Independence referendum with or without Westminster agreement.
If we truly believe Westminster has no right to block Scottish democracy, we need urgently to act to that effect and not just pretend to believe it. Now the election is over, I will state my genuine belief there is a political class in the SNP, Including a minority but significant portion of elected politicians, office holders and staff, who are very happy with their fat living from the devolution settlement and who view any striking out for Independence as a potential threat to their personal income.
You will hear from these people we should wait for EU trade negotiations, for a decision on a section 30, for lengthy and complicated court cases, or any other excuse to maintain the status quo, rather than move their well=paid arses for Independence. But the emergency of the empowered Johnson government, and the new mandate from the Scottish electorate, require immediate and resolute action. We need to organise an Independence referendum with or without Westminster permission, and if successful go straight for UDI. If the referendum is blocked, straight UDI it is, based on the four successive election victory mandates.
With this large Tory majority, there is nothing the SNP MPs can in practice achieve against Westminster. We should now withdraw our MPs from the Westminster Parliament and take all actions to paralyse the union. This is how the Irish achieved Independence. We will never get Independence by asking Boris Johnson nicely. Anyone who claims to believe otherwise is a fool or a charlatan.
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I don’t really know who the ” Establishment ” are meant to be, but Jim Telfer, the ex Scotland Rugby coach, may be giving a clue, as to some of the members, in an article by Tom English, Scottish Rugby Correspondent.
” Twickenham, I find intimidating. The whole atmosphere is intimidating, there’s so many of them, three tiers of them. If you ever think about wanting separation from England just sit for ten minutes in Twickenham and listen to them.
” They think they’re superior and a lot of them will come from the south-east, bags of money and bags of this and bags of that. They don’t don’t really appreciate the other team. In France they just boo the other team, in Argentina they boo the other team, in England it’s just disdain. ” Why are we playing these plebs?” I don’t like Twickenham, a concrete jungle, nothing attractive about it at all.”
it always used to be said that if you blew up the old west stand at twickenham during a 5 nations game you would wipe out fascism in england for 3 generations.
My experience of the West Car Park was that the vast majority were aimiably ratarsed long before kick off.
True, it was not a Calcutta Cup match, but the Welsh and English are not known for close friendship on the rugby field….
After COP25 in sunny Madrid was a flop recently, COP26 will come to rainy Glasgow in November 2020. This time Boris Johnson will be the host: imagine him plus Swedish Greta – not Garbo. XR do your best / worst!
Should be easy as Scotland has suffering from over heating and sea level rise – right? Gone are the good times like COP13 on Bali or COP16 in Cancun. I propose Lapland, Manchuria or Siberia in winter for COP27, should be OK because the extreme anthropogenic warming of the North, and all can be reached by train.
Just realized that this Glasgow November 9-20th 2020 CO2 circus might be totally overshadowed by the US presidential election on November 3 rd and its fall out : pity…
“Scotland has suffering from over heating and sea level rise – right ” – Source please.. If the (NAC) Shuts down..we are all Fucked
Now if Greta wished to educate herself, I would happily supply her with a hiking route from Loch Eriboll to Glasgow with bothies to kip in overnight. She would probably get rather wet, and carrying a rucsac, sleeping bag and cooking equipment might be rather third class travel for her.
But she would learn a lot about weather on the way….
And Culicoides impuctans…aka Midges
not sure what greta learning about weather has to do with climatology, but ok.
Ken
So in the US they’ve got a “purge list” to remove voters that are not of the correct ideology.
https://williambowles.info/2019/12/16/we-have-mortally-wounded-jim-crow-program/
“While our six years of exposés in Rolling Stone, on Al Jazeera and Democracy Now! were crucial in getting 15 states to pull out of the Crosscheck program, a dozen states are still using the ***old purge lists*** to remove young voters and voters of color by the hundreds of thousands.”
I’m guessing the UK has got the same operation going on here. Something I’d like to remind people of it this. When Cameron launched the Brexit Referendum, he did it on the assumption the majority of people would vote to stay in, otherwise he wouldn’t have done it. Don’t forget when they got the result they didn’t want/weren’t expecting, the Tories and some Labour-tories blamed it on Russia and were calling for RT to be banned. We then had riots in the streets, because the country and political parties were split down the middle. So if Russian got us to vote Leave, they must have the same thing again. Why is there no mention of it? And if the country was basically spilt down the middlle, half for and half against, how come they’ve all suddenly changed their minds and voted Leave?
I’m with Jeremy, I hate the EU, am from the South-West, not rich and a Labour supporter, but have to vote LibDem to keep the tories out, and voted Leave. If we had another referendum I’d vote stay to hang on to what’s left of the NHS. As far as I was concerned it was the better of two evils.
Noam Chomsky: ‘Brexit will weaken the EU,but…leave the UK even MORE subordinate to US Power, than it is today. Not good for Britain or the world !’ The US vs EU. The US wants to weaken it’s competitor but can’t exactly bomb it, so – chip a LITTLE piece off and………….. ABSORB it !!!
I don’t think we should necessarily accept the media/Tory narrative on the Brexit referendum. There seems to be as much or more evidence of US and Israeli involvement in the vote – hence why they would want the finger pointed at their enemy Russia.
Also we cannot take it as given that Cameron called the referendum for the reasons states. It is more than possible he was pressured into calling the referendum by Tory donors, or even that he was personally blackmailed into doing so. Of course he could admit neither of those possibilities were they the truth. And while Cameron might not have been expecting the referendum result, other Tories pulling the strings pehaps were, and wanted Brexit and Cameron out.
No, not curous at all about another Blair babe using Labour to attract fickle neocons and do it all over again. And before you say it, nobody who has displayed split loyalties to this country by being friends to one rogue state, rather than being afriend to all nations, should ever be allowed to run the Labour party, nevermind the country.
Like a lot of others on here I have been tempted into despair over the last few days. Thursday’s result came as a shock – although I suppose it shouldn’t have. The aftermath has produced a great deal of thrashing about and blaming which is understandable but not helpful. I too suspect it was all fiddled, although probably not here in this constituency in Norfolk. I don’t have the capacity to do research into it however unlike some dogged souls.
So what to do? Hand-wringing is ineffectual and ennervating. My resolution for what it’s worth, is to try and ensure that my nearest and dearest, who will be here for a few days next week, will be humorously and mildly challenged whenever I hear them use language carelessly or spout recycled garbage from whichever source.
There will also a copy of Erich Fromm’s The Sane Society in the downstairs loo and my old Penguin edition of 1984 in the upstairs one.
Happy daze eh? Season’s greetings all.
I also intend to give more support to the campaign to release Julian Assange.
Rose, I’m very glad you mentioned Julian. For anyone who might not really understand how he was set-up, this is a short 10 minute video that makes the whole thing clear. Please take the time to watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ0UgJRPhxw
Rose, if you look at all the results, there are so many huge Conservative majorities that short of promising a genocide of everyone earning less than £30k a year, they are going to win 150 seats every time. It used to be the same for Labour but 2015 saw Scotland lost and 2019 has reduced the 20,000+ majorities to double digits. So Labour simply does not have as many safe seats any more.
That simply means that given our silly FPTP electoral system, the impact of 1% extra/less votes is more negative for Labour and more positive for Conservative.
I must say I do not approve of outsourcing electoral services to for-profit companies with links to political figureheads. They may be honest, but they are not seen to be above board.
What should also happen is that ballot boxes should never leave the sight of representatives of every major party, so transportation to counts should see one Labour, Tory, Libdem, Green observer accompany the boxes at all times, never leaving their site from 10pm when polling stops until they are opened at the count.
It appears there is greater scope for fraud with postal votes and once again any organisation charged with managing postal voting should be required by law to have party representatives seconded to oversee the entire process.
It is entirely inappropriate to trust the integrity of private sector organisations without proving them to be so.
I have believed in PR since 1978 when I was 13 years old. Every party except Tories should now be in favour of it. But I genuinely think that this country will have to fight dirty to get it because compromise is anathema to the ‘born to rule’ elites and their savage rottweilers in the Press.
If you said there were 500 English seats, under PR, Tories would get 215, Labour 160 odd, Liberal Democrats 50+, TBP 20 odd, Greens 10 or so. I would make a cut off of 1 million to qualify for party list seats.
We still have trench warfare politics, each vandalising the other to waste money setting up new brands of the same thing after wasting five years in between.
But as long as Labour and Conservative think that ‘winning’ under FPTP is still worth it, most of us will not feel represented, whoever is in government.
Rose wrote:
> I also intend to give more support to the campaign to release Julian Assange.
Rose, if you are in London, this Thursday 19th is an important day at Westminster Magistrates Court:
https://twitter.com/couragefound/status/1206653717933690880
That’s another reason they couldn’t let Labour win, or risk going into a coalition with anyone, so the election results HAD to look bad for Labour, because they knew Jeremy would never, ever let Julian be exradited to the fascists in the US.
I was not shocked by the result. Nor do I think the result was THAT bad for Labour given the drubbing the whole media gave it, and it was all about Corbyn, not about some rather sensible manifesto policies that were universally described by the media as Marxist or Communist – ironic when you consider that even Tory voters have emphatically decided that the Post Office, Railways and most utilies ought to be brought back into public ownership.
Even the Daily Mail which for all its sins has occasionally some decent articles about how the fat cats (Thomas Cook et al) escape from corporate failure with a shed load of cash for themselves. The problem is that these claimed torch barers for consumers don’t actually want to change the system which enables the very greed they address. They want to continue the system which has seen an enormous increase in skewed wealth distribution.
203 seats for Labour is a decent result given the almost entirely hostile media, the artificial anti semitism claims and the peppering of the press with “communism” and “Marxisim” descriptions of policies that were not anywhere near as radical as Clement Attlee’s manifesto in 1945, which no newspaper dared to described as such at the time.
I agree with Galloway who described the breathless media comments about the hundreds of thousands of new Millenium voters as empty. The youth vote has pockets of left leaning attirbute but in the main, voters in the 25-35 range have all been Thatcherised even if they weren’t around at the time.
The shift towards the right is a reflection of what is happening throughout Europe. Regrettable but in that context Labour has nothing to be ashamed of.
Indeed, Paul Barbara.
And the only MP who was concerned about this, Chris Williamson, was thrown under the bus by his spineless colleagues, including RLB.
Just wondering if Craig might want to reassess his life insurance cover:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/12/violent-death-of-journalist-blamed-on-russia-was-committed-by-ukrainian-fascists-.html
We all know Obama was the main supporter of the fascist coup, but the EU were behind it as well. It back-fired because Russia got back Crimea and most importantly Sevastopol.
Carol it is a bit murkier than that –
You have to look Victoria Nuland and her and many other like her backgrounds.
Canadian links are high as well as the Banderists.
Eveything is interlinked and is aimed at one thing – an impending WAR.
Carol. Indeed with it strategic position and history, Russia would be mad allowing US/NATO to take over Sevastopol. Our Hubris knows no bounds. Little people like Gavin Williamson are a joke….
Why I hate the EU a bit less than the US:
Catherine Ashton, EU Foreign Policy Chief, 13th May 2013:
“With regard to the possible export of arms to Syria, the council took note of the commitment by member states to proceed in their National Policies as follows; the sale, supply, transfer or export of military equipment or of equipment that might be used for internal repression, member states shall require adequate safeguard against the misuse of the authorisation granted, in particular, relevant information concerning the end user and final destination of the delivery.”
William Haig nearly wet himself with glee.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/europe-main-layer-destroying-syria-creating-refugee-crisis/5697753
Lost illusions on the left that the BBC would play fair and that British democracy isn’t rigged. Jonathan Cook’s reflections on the 2019 general election.
https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2019-12-13/corbyns-defeat-slayed-the-lefts-last-illusion/
“He [Boris] needs voters to abandon their traditional party loyalties and VOTE CONSERVATIVE INSTEAD”!!!!
https://www.sott.net/article/425810-Calling-out-the-MSM-Corbyn-ally-slams-BBC-for-consciously-contributing-to-Labours-disastrous-election-defeat
https://twitter.com/hot_diggity_d/status/1204860593934610432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1204860593934610432&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sott.net%2Fembed%2FTOUWfqDkW27Y0ybetYwfYE8GIMD
Couldn’t be more clear, the BBC interfered in 2019 election.
I suggest you start ordering this asap while they’re still around:
Liberty – Order our FREE guide to your rights:
https://liberty.e-activist.com/page/53654/petition/1?ea.url.id=4453921&forwarded=true
Careful what you wish for, Liberty is a shill organisation.
I’ve been following the comments about vote rigging.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/12/resolution/comment-page-7/#comment-912959
Anyone know if the raw data is available for the election results (and ideally same for 2017), as xml or csv or whatever? If so, where?
Theoretically these stats should be available from every constituency on the Electoral Commissions website, Daivid Price, unless something unforseen has happened in the past that makes this data now private poperty, just as the Commission itself.
Thank you, Nevermind, appreciate it.
The data for 2017 is there:
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/excel_doc/0007/234979/2017-UKPGE-Electoral-Data.xls
Link found on this page:
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/elections-and-referendums/past-elections-and-referendums/uk-general-elections/results-and-turnout-2017-uk-general-election
There’s a csv link there also.
However I can’t see anything for 2019. For the 2017 data the page above says “First published: 28 June 2019”. That doesn’t look hopeful.
If this Government goes to war with Iran, we should go to war with this country.
If 40 shoddily build hospitals are being build by PPI rip off bankers, then we should withdraw all our accounts and choose a bank with ethical guidelines, and go to war with this Goverment over it.
If child poverty is rising, we should be making this clear to foodbank users as well as go to war with those dining in the Ritz.
And if this Goverments ignores the environmental obligations on carbon cutting, starting up fracking again, we should be mobilising everyone who cares about their grandchildren and go to war with this Government!
There comes a time when enough is enough. With that I a looking forward to meeting friends and family for winter solstice, whence another warm summer is chimed in.
^We’re many of us thinking the same thing.
The best way round it, is hit them where it hurts – in the pocket. Stop buying US goods. I do this already including Israeli products. It takes a bit of time, you’d be surprised how much crap we buy from the US. I even email companies to ask if they’re British.
Then buy only locally produced food. I also do this already – meat, fish, milk, cheese, vegetables and toiletries. Any money left over from bills, essential etc, save. It’s worth the effort. Just watch the economy stagnate even more.
Carol I would also add stop buying newspapers. I am working out if it is feasible to get a national campaign going and how it could work.
I agree, but I am afraid that most of us are very afraid even to say such things, for fear of ending up with criminal offences. And even asking questions about how to turn boot-lickers into responsible citizens a la francaise is likely to be seen as sedition within the police state. Meanwhile we watch on in silent admiration from across the channel, as we have always done.
Nevermind wholeheartedly agree. Boris is already reneguing on everything he has promised. Revolution is essential!!
Some further thoughts on Kuenssberg for you …
I wonder if any of you have heard of Julian Assange? A journalist (or publisher if you prefer) of information given to him in confidence by whistleblowers. He is currently being held by the British government on behalf of the United States which wants to prosecute him for revealing confidential government information. (You know, stuff that he’s not supposed to talk about.)
I personally don’t think that journalists – whoever they are – should be prosecuted for doing journalism. So while I dislike the views of individuals such as Luke Harding and Carole Cadwalladr, I nevertheless don’t want to see them imprisoned.
It may be as Chomsky famously said to Marr, “I’m sure you believe everything that you’re saying, but if you believed anything different you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting.”
Journalists are not the problem. Harding is not the problem. Kuenssberg is not the problem. You want to see Kuennsberg imprisoned? How about Harding? Toynbee, Oborne, Hitchens, Jones, Cadwalladr … lock them all up. You may think that makes the UK pure, but others overseas may not share your view!
Deal with people like Harding the way that Aaron Mate dealt with him. Not by catching them out or by baying for their blood, or seeing them prosecuted for minor mistakes, but by presenting a reasoned case against them.
I know almost nothing about Laura Kuenssberg as I don’t pay any attention to BBC content. But she is a journalist. I don’t think Laura Kuenssberg belongs in a prison any more than Julian Assange does. They are journalists doing their jobs whether you agree with their views or not.
You must be new on here (or from the 77th Brigade) to ask us if we know about Julian Assange. Or try asking Craig who is his friend and has been so ere long.
As for your assertion that the likes of Harding, Cadwalladr and Kuennsberg are mere journalists, it’s ridiculous. They are shilling for this evil empire.
Well said Mary, just now listening to Keit Starmers weasel words, all about him wanting to be the Labour party gatekeeper/leader, but not a word about Julian and his situation in Belmarsh.
Another on the list not to elect, he failed to protect free speech and presided over a shamble in international law terms, he should be speaking up for his release.
No, I am not working for any part of the security services. I was posing a rhetorical question regarding Julian Assange.
I am an ordinary person. I have written to Julian to express my support for him and also received a reply.
I do not support the work of people like Luke Harding or Carole Cadwalladr – as I stated. In fact I strongly oppose it.
This is not an “evil empire”, though we do appear to be in a dark place, with so much paranoia and mistrust among people.
So Mr John2o2o, we meet again. Once more:
“Deal with people like Harding the way that Aaron Mate dealt with him. Not by catching them out or by baying for their blood, or seeing them prosecuted for minor mistakes, but by presenting a reasoned case against them.”
Oh it’s all so clear now! Here we are exploding with futile fury when all we had to do was invite e.g. Laura and Boris onto a public platform and have a jolly civilised chat which would (it goes without saying) be honestly filmed and transmitted across the media and everyone would get the chance to ask questions and we could all debate the issues most rationally and there would be no smears or interfering with sneaking forward glances at vote papers or shouting out “anti-Semite” etc. Gosh – it was all our own frightful lack of manners! A reasoned case! And they all lived happily etc.
Thank you, my name is John Pretty. So what do you propose as a better solution George?
States that imprison and prosecute journalists are generally regarded as repressive. Not free countries.
And I think Luke Harding was very much put in his place by Aaron Mate in their famous interview. If you have not seen it then I recommend that you view it.
I am not suggesting that there are easy solutions to this. But prosecuting and imprisoning journalists is not the way.
Granted that ‘Journalists are not the problem. Harding is not the problem. Kuenssberg is not the problem.’ And that is why there is no point in ‘locking them up’ but there is equally no point in ‘presenting a reasoned case against them’. That very idea is so quaint and stupid. We are not talking about reason here but about constantly repeated noises. Kuenssberg makes the right noises. Whether her blabbing about the postal votes that no-one was supposed to see was a mistake or part of some ‘gaslighting’ isn’t the issue. The issue is that she showed by her blabber that someone was breaking the law and that the whole thing was a sham. The best I can do is to try and get people to stop thinking of this media circus as real. So stop thinking of presenting a reasoned case. These cases have been made innumerable times. They make no difference. The whole thing is a con and the more people I can get to see that the better.
Channel surfing this morning I caught a few seconds of Jeremy Vine on Channel Five, he introduced Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and Angela Epstein, the first as a columnist and the second as a journalist. Since I have seen the product of both of their work I wondered what the difference was between the two, I would class them both as columnists. Is being called a journalist a significant qualitative difference between the two jobs. I always imagined a journalist is a person who investigates news and reports facts, a columnist is a person who interprets news and spouts opinions. So what sort of investigative work does Epstein do I wondered?
I ask this as the same thought passed though my noggin at the mention of the BBC Correspondent, could this be applied to Kuenssberg? Essentially she is not an investigating reporter, she is a presenter cum commentator, someone with no political clout at all, she represents no one but herself, why would anyone take what she says seriously? Has she swayed anyone’s opinion?
Yet I see there is a problem, it is that appearances on the BBC can give validity to opinions expressed there, especially when they are by people we expect to be unbiased and if there is no variety in the opinion. It has got to a state where I can no longer watch the news on the BBC, my trust in it as a reliable news source is zero, the BBC does not help matters by consulting so called experts from assorted “think tanks” especially if they are not properly introduced, so that we can assess from what angle their thought comes from. Sacking Kuenssberg is not the answer, we need an investigation into how the process of selection for these lucrative posts is being made, the process needs to be transparent if trust is ever to be restored.
I think you could sum up Laura as a ‘ receiver of Tweets ‘.
Like a human mobile phone mast but solely for the use of the BBC.
No War Zones for these intrepid ‘journalists’
By the way she is not the worst.
They will all be ‘Foxed ‘ eventually.
I envision laura doing Shake and Vac adverts in her future career or Love Island.
John Pretty wrote:
> I wonder if any of you have heard of Julian Assange?
Yes, we have heard of him:
“Julian Assange” site:craigmurray.org.uk – Google Search
Or:
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Julian+Assange%22+site%3Acraigmurray.org.uk
(about 1,460 results)
The very murky world behind the White Helmets, le Mesurier and others. It is an extremely well researched document. Thanks are due to Messrs McKeigue, Robinson, Miller and Mason.
James Le Mesurier: a reconstruction of his business activities and covert role
Posted on December 16, 2019
James Le Mesurier: a reconstruction of his business activities and covert role
Paul McKeigue, Jake Mason, Piers Robinson, David Miller
16 December 2019
1 Summary
2 Biography
3 Establishment of the White Helmets
4 Companies controlled by James Le Mesurier and his associates
4.1 Mayday Rescue FZ-LLC (2014)
4.2 Mayday Arama Kurtarma Egitim ve Danismanlik Hizmetleri Limited (2014)
4.3 Stichting Mayday Rescue Foundation (2015)
4.4 Chameleon Global Limited (2016)
4.5 R3covery BV (2017)
4.6 My Zahara Limited (2019)
5 Government funding of Mayday Rescue
5.1 UK Government support for Mayday Rescue FZ-LLC
5.2 Netherlands government support for Mayday Rescue FZ-LLC and Stichting Mayday Rescue Foundation
6 Role of Le Mesurier in providing evidence to the OPCW Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) in Turkey
7 Role of Le Mesurier in media operations against critics of the White Helmets
8 Le Mesurier’s final monthssyriapropagandamedia.org/james-le-mesurier-a-reconstruction-of-his-business-activities-and-covert-role
Copy to Brendan Cox? 😉
Link http://syriapropagandamedia.org/james-le-mesurier-a-reconstruction-of-his-business-activities-and-covert-role#le-mesuriers-final-months
Thanks.
Like the fudged OPCW report, the MSM just sticks to the official narrative (of them being “heroes”).
I’m fairly sure le Mesurier was Epsteined too…
Fascinating.
What these investigations make clear is that the project to break up Syria was a NATO one, (presumably led by America.) How come Japan is involved I don’t know.
Every time I see Stoltenberg in the newspapers, and television, with his cold reptilian face the word “evil” springs to mind, and he is just the figurehead!
It’s been going on since 1945:
Cold War and Covert Action: The United States and Syria, 1945-1958
Professor Douglas Little, Clark University History:
In late 1945, the Arabian American Oil Company (ARAMCO) announced plans to construct the Trans-Arabian Pipe Line (TAPLINE) from Saudi Arabia to the Mediterranean. With US help, ARAMCO secured rights-of-way from Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The Syrian right-of-way was stalled in parliament. In other words, Syria was the sole holdout for the lucrative oil pipeline. More importantly, Syria also had control of one of the main oil arteries of the Middle East, the pipeline which connected pro-western Iraq’s oilfields to Turkey.
As early as 1949, this newly independent Arab republic was an important staging ground for the CIA’s earliest experiments in covert action. The CIA secretly encouraged a right-wing military coup in 1949, a mere 3 years after Syrian independence. Recently declassified records confirm that beginning on November 30, 1948, CIA operative Stephen Meade met secretly with Colonel Zaim at least six times to discuss the possibility of an army supported dictatorship.
In 1957, Harold Macmillan, Conservative prime minister, and President Dwight Eisenhower agreed to launch regime change again in Syria. The plan called for the funding of a “Free Syria Committee” and the arming of “political factions with paramilitary or other actionist capabilities” within Syria. The CIA and MI6 would instigate internal uprisings, for instance by the Druze [a Shia Muslim sect] in the south, help to free political prisoners held in the Mezze prison, and stir up the Muslim Brotherhood in Damascus.
No, the Druze aren’t “a Shia Muslim sect”. It’s an independent religion, no longer part of Islam.
Carol
Beware . Mods don’t like too much theosophical information here.
Dour, Calvinistic grey politics only.
How come Japan is involved? Japan is asking that question too. They have been ordered by Trump to send a task force into the dispute with Iran. They don’t know,if they are allowed to refuse. They have sent a few ships but they don’t want to get involved. Trump is threatening to remove the American base, and North Korea is shooting missiles straight over the country and into the Pacific. China is claiming islands they thought were Japanese and is sending large task forces into what were Japanese waters. Tensions and Trump are probably linked, but Japan prefers to be isolationist, and polite at all times
@ Alexander December 17, 2019 at 15:14
Though absolutely damning, and backed up by other sources, I have only been able to even interest one MP out of about a dozen, and that MP is no longer an MP:
‘Roland Dumas: The British prepared for war in Syria 2 years before the eruption of the crisis’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyRwFHR8WY
2 minute video clip with english subtitles.
General Wesley Clark’s revealing that the neo-cons in the US had a list of countries (including Syria) to “regime change” a few weeks after 9/11 was also simply ignored by the MSM and mainstream politicians.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166
In the Netherlands, only the Socialist Party and far-left political organisations took any note of the alleged “conspiracy theories.”
Mary Yip..it’s been hitting the fan now Re OPCW
And Three White Helmet Terrorists were Blown up whilst Transporting Explosives in an Ambulance in Syria a few days ago
White Helmets = Terrorists
The West’s Sanctions = Terrorist
Sanctions are killing more Syrians than Bombs / Arms..Just now.. Evil Bastards.
@ Brianfujisan December 17, 2019 at 16:51
Likely to be blamed on the Monster Assad attacking an ambulance.
Right enough mopping lets get THIS war stopped no ansy pansy marches to nowhere – no dodgy WMD no bullshit Uighurs that need saving – if they want to deploy ‘our boys’ to murder in far off places – force them instead to murder their own civilians in their own country – here. If they worry about Uighurs in retraining camps lets force the to build such camps to put us in here.
I want Jezza back in his most effective organisation that cuts across party lines and unites the country behind him, his higher profile and demagoguery and shear cheating to keep him out of No10 has like obiwan made him much much more powerful than they could ever imagine! – STOP THE WAR.
Well you might well stop mopping D – I’m just praying that somebody else does a bit of moppin’ for me here next week.(: Have a good one.
Dungroanin I would like Jezza back as you say. If he resigned as an MP he is a powerful enough campaigner and can draw large crowds. Get him back in a different more powerful role.
He can still be an MP – just lika before!
@ Dungroanin December 17, 2019 at 13:36
Great idea! He could potentially put some ‘Ooomph!’ back into the rather moribund (since 2003) StW.
Then with JC spearheading the immensely important task of campaigning to stop the war criminal gang of troughers in Parliament, expose the MSM Gung Ho war promoters, and Momentum to continue the radicalisation and fight the Bliarisation of the Labour Party, I’m feeling way better already!
What is the latest about “associated citizenship” for proEU British citizens, which Verhoffstadter was proposing two years ago? It seemed to be a concrete and well-regarded idea at the time. Has the suggestion developed since then?
The EU member states rejected his idea. I’m sure this has been influenced partly by the Tory government’s shameful treatment of EU citizens in the UK (and indeed the UK’s own citizens in the EU). Judging by debates in the German parliament, the fear was also that many persons would only seek a German/EU passport simply to make travel etc. easier, etc., without being “fully committed” citizens. Many EU countries do not favour dual citizenship in general. (Although the EU does provide for fairly automatic (dual) citizenship of an EU citizen married to another EU citizen in one of their EU countries.)
But look it’s too late for all this discussion now. And unless you make use of freedom of movement very very quickly, you will lose it. Perhaps renting an apartment in an EU country and registering you live there might be enough. In most (perhaps all) EU27 countries you have to register that you are a resident at the local municipal authorities.
I can well understand the sense of panic many in the UK must feel.
Thank you for this update. It’s a pity that something has not been put in place. I foresee a small trickle of departures among those who can before the end of January; retired, young, unattached, perhaps some working age of independent means or digital nomads, and the like.
The dirty war to return permanently to politics as usual is already well underway. Labour party members are being targeted by liberal psyops, mislabeling right-wing ‘unity candidates’ like Angela Rayner as equally radical as Corbyn but free of his baggage. This leadership election is likely to be on another level again to the last two in terms of disinformation, fearmongering and demonization, perhaps even rivaling the general election and Scottish referendum campaigns. For the liberals it is the last throw of the dice and they will leave nothing in the changing room.
Rayner is very ‘Israel friendly’. Here she is speaking to the Board of Deputies at their celebrations for Hanukkah. She is shown seated next to Mr Regev, now at the Palace Green Israeli Embassy by way of Australia.
https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/angela-rayner-those-likening-hitler-to-zionism-not-welcome-in-labour-party/
She has now given way to Long-Bailey. She would rather be Deputy Leader. G.d help the Labour Party.
Angela Rayner clears way for Rebecca Long-Bailey to run for Labour leader
Shadow education secretary will focus instead on becoming deputy leader
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/16/angela-rayner-rebecca-long-bailey-labour
Nothing controversial in Long-Bailey’s TWFY Register of Interests. Unite the Union fund her.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=25368
Mary
Angela was cornered because she had used a quote from Finklestein’s book ‘The Holocaust Industry’. She then made a public apology and an appearance so as to be forgiven. Here is what Free Speech on Israel has to say about this:
https://freespeechonisrael.org.uk/rayner/#sthash.kamGd5ua.dpbs
The answer is to become a member – NOW – and have a vote for the correct candy date. It is sick but I guess we may have to choose a proper out and out looker. I know, i know.
Comedy Gold, Craig.
Keep it up
I have to wonder whether Nicola Sturgeon and co. aren’t consciously working for the Tories when they keep annoying everybody outside their own Partei by saying they’ve got a mandate for a second independence referendum. Why do I say this? Because there really is a Britain-wide mandate for another EU referendum, consisting of a majority in last week’s general election for parties that oppose leaving the EU without a People’s Vote, as confirmed by repeated majorities in opinion polls for Remain. And the opposite is true regarding a second indyref in Scotland: people have said “No” to it both at the ballot box and in the polls. So it’s a mindf*ck, basically. It’s not an especially complicated one, but those who aren’t experienced in analysing mindf*cks won’t be getting their heads round it. Here’s your chance, lads and lasses. Pencils and paper out! Think about it and you’ll get it!
N
Total nonsense.
The SNP have won election after election in Scotland . So people have said yes to the SNP and choosing their own future instead of having it imposed on them by some slimeball dictators in Westminster.
” People have said no at the polls.” What a monumentally stupid statement. Polls are often way off the mark plus recent polls have said yes to Indyref2. So a pointless and wrong statement.
So in summary you don’t get it more wrong than you have.
The conclusion from this election is that relentless advertising works and the constant vilification of Jeremy Corbyn by Fleet Street including the so-called liberal press and by the broadcast media, especially the BBC was a great success. The only challenge for the media now is to ensure that a centrist is elected as leader of the Labour party in the face of of the opposition of its members before the next election.
The conclusion from this election is also that Nicola Sturgeon did not want Scottish independence and that Jo Swinson did not really want Remain. Otherwise the SNP and Lib Dems would never have triggered the election on Boris Johnson’s preferred date and at absolutely the worst moment for Labour.
Furthermore, we can now see that Labour was always in an impossible position once Boris Johnson evicted the Remainers from the Tory party. If Labour blew too far towards Remain it would lose the North and if it blew too far towards Brexit it would lose the South. Jeremy Corbyn’s strategy was therefore the only strategy for Labour that made any sense which is why it was relentlessly attacked by the media.
The final conclusion is that this UK election has without doubt been the most interfered with by Washington in UK history. It is now perfectly clear that Brexit is not simply Trump’s preferred option, but is supported throughout the Borg from Foggy Bottom to Langley, and that the reason the US wants Brexit is not just the long established goal of bringing the UK into NAFTA (https://www.usitc.gov/publications/docs/pubs/332/pub3339.pdf) but because Brexit is an attack on the EU and above all the euro.
The euro is seen in Washington as a direct threat to US interests. First the euro threatens the US’s ability to pay for its hegemonic policies by simply printing more defense dollars as Russia, the world’s largest oil producer, was already effectively pricing its oil in euros. Second, the euro represents a threat to Wall Street in the form of European banks in London with access to the much larger euro savings pool. This is why the first battle of this US attack on the EU resulted in BNP Parisbas being fined $1 billion for complying with French law.
Think about Boris Johnson’s election victory as the United Kingdom’s own Maidan moment. It is the second pincer of this US attack on the EU. The Ukraine is supposed to threaten Germany’s and France’s Russian gas supplies from the East (hence the threat of sanctions against Nord Stream II). The UK their North Sea gas supplies and integrated manufacturing systems from the West. Even if Boeing does build planes that fall out of the sky, without the UK Airbus will have no wings for its planes. The Ukraine has been impoverished through its adherence to US policy and its imposition of trade sanctions on Russia and the UK will be impoverished when Boris Johnson’s Washington inspired super hard Brexit destroys the UK’s trade with the EU.
As for an independent Scotland, until the US decides to change policy and recognize that Crimea is part of Russia, all the independence referendums in the world will not result in either Scotland or Catalonia becoming independent nations. The best hope for Scottish independence is for Donald Trump to actually gain power and to decide to get revenge on the Tories after the great orange one realizes that it was Tory controlled Britain that was behind much of Obama’s Russiagate spying on his campaign. After all Tony Blair beat John Major because John Major tried to interfere in 1992 Presidential election against Bill Clinton.
Iraq and Libya nationalised their oil in 1971. Iraq, Libya and Syria planning to drop pretro-dollars for other currencies. Look what happened to them, countries destroyed.
A British Coup – by the chickens who cooed.
What happened in this country last week is exactly analagous to what happened in WW1/WW2…every fucking war ever! including the Brexit referendum!
The posters proclaiming ‘your country needs you’ ; ‘the Huns are coming!’ ; ‘The Enemy Within’ would be put up. The propagandists lined up to dragoon the canon fodder.
This time it was not just the Huns it was a personal demonisation of Corbyn and the crassest of old fashioned RACISM against the likes of Abbot – we didn’t see posters and graffiti – it was done using the most advanced tech and communications on the planet – via Facebook and individual targeting of these adverts.
The personality cults of the modern Churchill , Bozo and of the modern Mossleysites, Cummings and Yaxley-Lennon’s – ‘Tommy’ army with their ‘uniforms de jour’ the fashionista/ Proud Boys look ain’t fooling all of us. This time the anti democrat stormtroopers come wearing smart casual Hackett – the new Hugo Boss!
It may well be this parliament does NOT last.
It ONLY exists and was criminally created to deliver the HARD brexit. It will be transmuted into a GNU fir the planned WAR, that Andre Vltcheck harbingers.
https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/17/how-can-the-us-lecture-china-on-the-rights-of-muslims/
Expelling all democrats and criminalising dissent – Corbyn will soon be free to do what he knows best – Stop the War – the fight for democracy, peace and equality will return to where it wins and changes the country – in the streets!
Unfettered and now much better known Jezza and the Stop The War coalition can be the natural focus against the ‘Vichy’ mutant Tory coalition of the Empire.
They may get imprisoned but many many millions will take the streets.
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The City and its 5+1 eyed Empire has been forced into survival mode. From escaping the fair play and level playing field rules of membership of the EU; to the ending of it’s centuries long colonialism and plundering, by the emergent Eurasian trading and security block – backed with the industrial might of China and the Strategic weapons & development capabilities and reslience of Russia. The Organisation through various regional bodies encompasses the majority of the earths land mass and over half its population.
WHY THE MADNESS TO GO TO WAR AGAINST THAT?
The coming together of the EU and the EAEU is the end of Empire for the 5+1 eyed gollum.
Once again we thr freedom loving democrats of Europr will rely on Russia. To preserve their legacy and sacrifice of it’s 30 MILLIONS to save Europe from the corporate fascism and nazi proxy enforcers of 100 years ago.
The Empire is being forced back to its ‘New Worlds and taking it’s Centre with it – us the UK).
The Empire is only doing what it has always done when threatened or expanding – start a WAR.
A war which it has NO chance of winning even if it chooses to go Nuclear. It knows that. It’s naval and airforces and missiles will largely get destoyed within half an hour by the Russian hypersoniics.
Defence homelands is easier than attacking far away places – even usung proxies – this time Uighurs and zombie nazi Ukrainians.
The aristos of Empire and theit minions will retreat to their White supremacist wildernesses of US/Canada/NZ/Oz and lay claim to the last unclaimed territories- Space! Where they think they will safely watch their version of ‘burning Atlanta’.
Yup they really are that insane!
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RUMOURS OF WAR
Mesopotamia and Cenral Asia, here we come -again!
Sorry for the bloodshed but we will be spilling plenty of our own and proxy Uighurs and Ukrainians too.
We voted for it!
The propaganda machine is oiled and whirring now to get the boots on the ground and once more send our youth to foreign shores to do or die – FurkingandCuntry.
@Dungroanin – Re. Tommy Robinson and his chums’ garb, the English Defence League’s network goes back to football gangs which are known for their crap taste in clothes and which are part of the gangster geography in Britain and are by no means only about football. I don’t know which clubs. (I could guess the names of three of them in London, but that’s it.) It’s going to be interesting to see what the Tommy network does as it waves the Tory Partei flag. They seriously need a spokesman who speaks with a Northern accent.
“The propaganda machine is oiled and whirring now to get the boots on the ground and once more send our youth to foreign shores to do or die”
It’s no longer the fashion, as the coffins coming back put a dent in a government’s popularity. Even if the privatised recruiters were actually able to keep up with attracting the needed new recruits, which they aren’t. The army is well under strength. Stirring up internal conflicts, like in HongKong, is the new practice. And Trump prefers trade sanctions, as they cost the US nothing.
This was written by one of the nutters from Integrity Initiative, Victor Madeira dated 30/07/2014. They still think they are fighting the Bolsheviks, I’m not kidding:
“Sir Ronald Lindsay, Britain’s ambassador to Berlin in February 1927, urged London to realise that, short of military action against the Soviet Union, this was ‘a new kind of war’. Anti-subversive measures could not be gradual; they had to be part of a package of ‘economic boycott, breach of diplomatic relations’ as well as ‘propaganda and counter-propaganda, pressure on neutrals.’ He argued that a diplomatic breach with Moscow would at least turn ‘the present peculiar struggle into an *** armed conflict of the old-fashioned sort’ that Great Britain and the West could win.***”
Forgot to post the link. Read the whole thing, it’s fascinating to see how their minds work. Also interesting comment about HIV/AIDS.
https://www.statecraft.org.uk/research/russian-subversion-havent-we-been-here
Johnson says the government will introduce a bill to “outlaw extension” (to ban an extension to the end of the Brexit transition period, to be set for 31 December 2020) – and all the British journalists herd to comment on it, not a single one of them observing that the only function of such a bill (and Act) is propagandistic. Once this bill is enacted, the government can introduce another bill to repeal it any time it effing wants. That’s how Parliament works.
I could add that the bill might have the subsidiary function of whipping all the new and continuing Tory MPs into line, but I doubt that’s actually true, and having them be SEEN to be whipped into line is part of the propaganda. The message is as follows: “The government is strong! The government is united! The government is resolute! The government will serve the British nation on its path to its holy destiny by telling foreign continental scum that enough’s enough – and the government, being a truly volkisch government, means what it says, unlike the lefties, liberals, assorted weakie traitors, foreigner-lovers, and vacillators who used to be in the Tory party before they got given the Union Jackboot! [*]”
(*) See what I did there?
Why Vote Tory.. Then wind up having to pray to the various Gods for Salvation..
A wee Haiku with Contradictions –
Vote for Misery
The Tories Will Grant Your Wish
So Pray to Your Gods
What you write could well be true.
A smart person would ask themselves just what is it that is so repulsive about the Labour Party that leads people to consider that a blue tinged dystopian future is their best option.
If you conclude that it is all the fault of the media then then you are halfway to getting to an answer. People do not tend to respond positively to those who consider them utterly stupid and mere cannon fodder with no other purpose than to hoover up third rate propaganda peddled by fourth rate talking heads.
Start showing people some respect and there remains a chance that they might listen to what you have to say. Meanwhile the problem is a problem entirely of the let, and unless this is recognized and remedial measures enacted the people will hold you all in increasing contempt.
Show the working class and underclass who voted Tory respect? roflmfao
“Start showing people some respect and there remains a chance that they might listen to what you have to say. ”
Hilarious. Tory austerity just killed about 150,000 people — is that the sort of respect we should show them?
You’ve lost the plot.
“The NHS will continue to crumble with more and more of its service provision contracted out, and more and more of its money going into private shareholders’ pockets (including many Tory MPs).”
Nothing is surer unfortunately.
Tonight ITV 10:45pm
The Dirty War on the NHS: John Pilger documentary “goes to the heart of the struggle for democracy today”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/12/10/dirt-d10.html
The choice last week was indeed between social democracy or US corporate barbarism.
Scores of millions are going to severely regret the decision made. 🙁
Also The Great NHS Heist:
http://movie.thegreatnhsheist.com/
If you asked most of the non-Tories who voted Tory, they wouldn’t have a clue what’s been happening to the NHS. They’re just not interested. They might learn to regret that decision as they see the escalation. It was interesting that Cameron said it was the worst decision in his life.
I have a new years resolution which I’m going to start from today. I will never again listen to the lying slandering right wing , biased creeps on the Today and Tonight programmes.
The sickening propaganda of Justin Webb, Martha Kearney
, Nick Robinson and Misha Hussin has been revolting
The endless drivel of hate against Jeremy Corbyn and fake news of every sort basically means I am unable to listen to the BBC again. Others may have stronger stomachs for endlessly repeated lies. But I have an allergy to lying and I can physically and mentally no longer endure their crap.
I.might even have to buy a TV to find out what’s going on.
Yes I feel exactly the same. Sometimes I put radio 4 or 5 just to see how long I can last…but it rarely goes more than 5 minutes before I feel so upset and offended that I have to turn it off. We gave up our license fee a couple of years ago. I told the bbc why we were giving it up. I said I felt that paying for the BBC was against my family’s best interests and was self destructive.,
I read once that we in this country are subject to propaganda just as much as the people of the Soviet Union were, but it is worse for us because the people of the USSR knew they were being lied to , whereas so many of us innocently believe we are getting the truth , we believe the propaganda.
Giyane-buying a TV won’t help. It’s the same vicious right-wing shit only you can see the poison dripping from Kuennsberg’s, et al’s mouths. Channel 4’s Matt Frei’s interview this evening on Channel 4 News with two right wing Blairite Labour MPs is just carrying on with their pre-election anti-Corbyn drivel.
Tune into music channels and follow the news on sites such as this one.
As predicted, the Labour party as we knew it these last few years is finished. What is left of it now consists of a bunch of over-privileged raving ‘told-you-so’ madmen and madwomen who have no concept of what happened (let alone any concept of what their constituents needed), and whose imagination is so dim that they can only think to point their finger at the leadership. It just confirms the principle that those who point their fingers the most are the ones who are at greatest fault. Or the best actors, secretly hiding their glee that the world can carry on with business as usual and consign Corbynism to the dustbin?! The irony of all this is that a few months ago, everyone thought it would be the Tory part that would tear itself to pieces. What a spectacular reversal? This is the stuff to inspire playwrights and poets surely.
@ Marmite December 17, 2019 at 19:47
‘…Or the best actors, secretly hiding their glee that the world can carry on with business as usual and consign Corbynism to the dustbin?!…’
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/hot-mic-moment-exposes-insane-sleaziness-of-british-political-media-class-909bd4980ba2?
‘..This is the stuff to inspire playwrights and poets surely…’
Well, it should certainly inspire grave diggers and crematoria with the thought of years more austerity, and a ballooning bank account.
Hardly a ‘best actor’ there. But the galling thing is that it doesn’t matter how obvious they are about their true intentions. The script churns on anyway. Blair himself has launched an attack on Corbyn for losing the election. The sheer depressing predictability seems to me to be part of the ‘psyop’. Instill despair at the very shamelessness of it all.
Yes it willl inspire playwrights, and the producers of marmite.
Labour should refuse giving interviews to the propaganda ministry/public broadcaster they arenot conducive to be balanced, never again.
ABOLISH THE LOT. Including the world service.
Giyane, everybody I know in Scotland feels the same way about the BBC and has done since about 2013. The BBC is actually the biggest barrier to anything resembling democracy in the UK.
Their attacks on Corbyn are comparable to the sort of attacks the independence movement has been at the sharp end of for years… it never ends. Every subject is “SNP BAAAAAAAD”, every single day, forever and ever.
If I was English, I’d devote my time to tackling the bastards. There’s no point in even contemplating political change until the BBC is somehow neutralised. That’s the truth of it. They’re now running the Labour leadership campaign, basically demanding that Momentum and the left and kicked out..
Just a Brilliant Post Hatuey..Thanks for the Facts and Truths of it
@ Hatuey December 17, 2019 at 20:01
Why do you think that George Orwell in ‘1984’ bases the ‘Ministry of Truth’ in the BBC building?
I haven’t watched or listened to the BBC since the election. The peddling of the “anti-semitism” smears against Corbyn, in particular, crossed a line for me. A broadcaster that lies and cheats for Tory donors and foreign intelligence agencies is not an organisation I’m prepared to support in any form at all. What the BBC did during the election campaign was treason, which all the peoples of the British isles should rebel against.
Jeez oh, Labour MPs or ex-MPs Siobhain McDonagh and Mary Creagh both on channel 4 news running Corbyn into the the ground blaming him for every aspect of the GE defeat.
Both ex-MP want Corbyn out right now and both want Corbynism dead and buried forever.
Wales and England looks set to be lost in Conservatism for a long time. Socialism is I think becoming a dirty word South of the border.
Shocking, isn’t? I thought that this kind of [insert euphemism for scum here] only existed in the Tory Party.
There are small pockets of resistance here in Dorest:
https://dorseteye.com/the-tories-have-always-hated-the-bbc-as-well-as-the-nhs-both-will-now-disappear/
I suppose were’re the few descendants of those who were deported and sent to a penal colony [Australia] for refusing to work for shit pay.
https://www.tolpuddlemartyrs.org.uk/story
So this is what McCarthyism looks like:
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/government-antisemitism-adviser-to-probe-canary-and-far-left-sites-1.494331
Lord Mann, he of bulging eyes and flared nostrils shouting “Nazi apologist, Nazi apologist!” at … Ken Livingstone.
UK 2019, who’d have thought?
R.E.M. – Exhuming McCarthy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ-goz4q1qo
Yes of course this is just the beginning. All Left dissent is “Jew Hate”. All critique of capitalism is “Jew Hate”. But then the very language is a giveaway i.e. “Hate” raised to some metaphysical entity. It’s like the words “Devil” and “Satan” banded about in the middle ages – which is where we seem to be headed.
George Mc I am afraid u are all too correct on this. I will add something too. I have watched for 10 years now how the Tories and the MSM haved demonised Muslim and Islamic populations in this country. I believe what we are heading for now with this Fascist Government is that, as Jews were persecuted by Hitler – it is slowly becoming the case that they, the Islamic communities will become the new Jews so to speak, and will be scapegoated, systematically abused by the Tory MSM propaganda machine, be subjected to a barrage of lies by that same propaganda machine and their countries of origin, as happens now, will be destroyed by invasion and war. This might not be seen as the equivalent of concentration camps but let’s not forget quantanamo, abu gradhi and the ones we don’t know about to where people were extraordinarily rendered. All inmates of these camps were systematically tortured and still are. There are many people appear to be missing and not accounted for that were arrested for being asian, for maybe not being able to find a bus ticket and reported to the police as a terrorist etc. Many probably died in these camps. In the meantime the UK and USA governments actively support the Fascist Israeli Government in murdering, torturing, abusing and subjugating the Palestinians in the same way Hitler did to the Jews. History will recoil in horror. We are in it now and standing by whilst the genocide and torture of Islamic and Asian peoples and their country is taking place. Why is the Is****i Government the USA and the UK being allowed to get away with it. Will there be in the future an Islamic Holocaust day.
There really needs to be coined a new word for hatred of the homeless, the disabled, the unemployed, the infirm.
Our government is guilty in the nth degree of this form of hate crime, but is once again trying to fabricate that it exists elsewhere so as to take attention off of its crimes.
How pathetic, and how pathetic are all those that go along with this, not speaking out against the violence of this pathological exploitation of the Jews and their past suffering.
I think Nazi is OK.
Carol right on!
Here is some ‘evidence’ for John Mann. The Canary criticises the Jewish Chronicle.
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2019/12/17/former-tory-chair-condemns-a-right-wing-columnists-bigoted-article-that-calls-islamophobia-bogus/
Boris Johnson is now going to ditch the EU rules on GM crops it will ruin the UK farming industry
https://www.tapeleysustainability.org/farmer-to-farmer-gm-crops/?fbclid=IwAR0DGfjIaTR55eG4AR5Vw4gEXM9o60Wx3K2BarrM3vrnjZUqJ13cXYin85Q
Angela Woolriidge
Psyops – deliberately contradicting truth and commonsense is the tool Thatcher used against the British people.
Some of us are a little wiser from being screwed over last time .
Giyane
It is very scary because inn his first day in office Boris Johnson vows to ditch EU rules on GM crops. This means we will be leaving the EU with no deal and our farmers will be ruined. This will affect N.Ireland and Scotland. https://sciencebusiness.net/news/boris-johnson-vows-ditch-eu-rules-gm-crops?fbclid=IwAR3Mq1bPYh2Y85yWLgUZSTRNUnj1ikyuh64enfAZ2l5MauNBd1vSscax9ow
Angela Woolridge
I’m 65. I will never forget the continual wind-ups the 1979 Thatcher generated , sometimes 2 or 3 every week. I ended up painting I HATE THATCHER on the local Tory office and spending 3 weeks in the local mental hospital.
They just repainted it.
Nil carborundum. Bullingdon Oaf only knows how to wind people up. It’s a rare schoolboy talent.
His headmaster at Eton said he resented being told what to do. So he thinks he can wind us up with impunity from his high office.
Please remember that mrs Thatcher was forcibly removed from office by her own cabinet and the whole world breathed a sigh of relief.
That cabinet destroyed all the old school Tories like Heath exactly as Cunnings has destroyed Grieve. That cabinet decided to feed cows on the offal sheep. Fracking has attracted massive investment even though it is more bonkers than Govine spongiform encephalopathy to pollute the very water we drink
This is psy ops. Designed to confuse and disarray the enemy ( us ) the better to be fleeced.
I’m bored of saying that Steven dorrell declared after billions had been spent culling animals that nobody could have predicted it.
Noone but a 3 year old that is.
Calm down dear. We’re insured with Gargantual Oaf.
Petition to Free Julian Assange
Free Julian Assange, before it’s too late. Sign to STOP the USA Extradition
229,944 have signed. Let’s get to 300,000!
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Done Mary..
it’s over 230,000 now
Mary, I’ve sent around a dozen emails to various Australian MPs including my local representative, relevant Ministers and Shadow Ministers. Not one deigned to respond. I’ll try again using the link you posted but I fear too few people care enough to make a difference to Canberra which is, after all, nothing but a Washington outpost.
Hey mamma we’re all Nazis now…… islamophobia and racism. Silence over DWP deaths. The hostile environment. Israel rules okay. And Tommy Robinson has joined the Tory Party. Who should be the new Leader of the Labour Party? Who is not going to be vilified by the press? If they are not being vilified then they are not representing the Opposition. Simples. It will take some time to get some shape on this dystopian government. We don’t even know who is actually leading it……
Oh I think we do. It’s a menage a trois consisting of a male and female member of SIS, and Boris frolicking around annoying the Tory party and everybody else.