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Craig, when you have secured independence for Scotland (and frankly I cannot understand why the Scots voted to remain in the United Kingdom), you will of course be free to adopt your own migration policies and doubtless will welcome foreigners with open arms. However, as I suspect you might have noticed from the European Union referendum result, this is not a policy that is likely to mobilise great support south of the border.
No, because we are led by donkeys, and us donkeys always need a scapegoat for any domestic troubles.
This is such an important topic, and anyone who gives their voice to it should be applauded.
Thanks Craig, I enjoy your videos. Feels like you are sitting chatting to just me.
I also like how you always bring up thought-provoking subjects.
Keep up the good work and stay safe!
If there is an amnesty it will create a new wave of illegal immigration. So what seems humane might make people feel better now, but is that sensible if those actions create a bigger problem in the future?
I think I replied in the wrong place, mine was intended as a general comment
Mike+e – well, why is it illegal? I was born in Scotland and lived the first 22 years of my life there. But since then, I’ve lived and worked in 7 different countries – and now happily settled abroad. All the countries I went to let me in and let me work there and I never had any difficulties with any of them.
I don’t like the grounds that Her Majesty’s government has for keeping people out and why they render it illegal in the first place and I don’t understand it.
2 kinds of human bing in the earth
*craig
*mike+e
The ME is in its first wave of Corona and so is Africa, more will follow. General amnesty of already present illegals will attract more as sure as night follows day .
Rational people first take care of their own tribe, like those homes for the elderly where corpses are being found now, before trying to rescue others. This is a basic of first aid after accidents.
Jesus was alright, but he had no followers of Mo around to take advantage of such naivety, nor was there much international transport then.
Antonym
You seem to live in a limited tribal world where selfishness is the way. But you know, the world has changed and it takes a pandemic to show that helping those less able to cope may help you also. But that needs imagination.
As to people dying in nursing homes, it is not either or, it is a completely separate issue, and to pretend that people are dying in nursing homes because of immigrants is just crass. Look first at all the other extravagances and look at how we militarise all conflicts including those that fuel immigration.
SA – your first paragraph – you basically said exactly what I wanted to say – but you expressed it much better.
…and what we have here is an object lesson in cognitive dissonance.
On the one hand there is an impassioned entreaty to allow for education of all, and on the other bemusement that you cannot just withdraw money from your bank account.
Under law title to a depositors money transfers from the depositor to the bank at the moment such money is deposited. It is not your money. It is the banks money.
Why do you think Tony Blair was so keen on educashon? Free your mind and advocate from the complete destruction of the education industry. Not only might people actually learn something there is also a chance that they can dodge the lifetime of serfdom being offered by a debt based higher education system.
Cognitive dissonance is just the disconnect between behaviour and belief in some people. How you have managed to find that in what Craig said about what you summarised as belief in “education for all” and “bemusement” about being cross examined about withdrawing his own money from his own bank account is mystifying. But bank deposits (investments) and money deposited in a bank account are not the same thing.
You also appear to have relied on Investopedia, Quara or similar websites for your information. They are American sites, banking rules/laws in America and here in the UK are not the same, the rules are partly covered in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_banking_law. It’s complicated but at present the government had said it will guarantee savings up to £85,000, so, barring money-laundering regulations, he should be able to get access to his money without being questioned as to why he wants it.
How this relates to cogitative dissonance is anybody’s guess, perhaps you could explain this.
As I have explained the money in Mr. Murrays bank account does not belong to him, it belongs to the bank. It belongs to the bank because legal title to the money is transferred to the bank contemporaneously with the depositing of the money in the bank. Why is this so hard understand even when it is written in clear terms?
In broad terms the system in the US is analogous to the UK. However there is plenty of case law in English law which pertains exclusively to the legal situation in the UK I have never heard of “investopedia” or “Quara” so the chances of my relying on them are zero.
The government guarantee of £85,000 is designed to forestall bank runs and to offer some protection in the case of insolvency. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the legal title of money held in a bank account (any bank account – be that an interest bearing account or otherwise).
If what you write is the product of a UK education then you make the case more clearly than I ever could for burning down all the schools and starting again.
Thanks for the corrections Chas.
If what you claim is true, that Craig’s money was bank property, it’s surprising he got his money returned after entrusted it to the bankster gamblers for safekeeping. I know you would not lie to us, no matter what state our education was in.
A few points of order Mr Murray:
1. Whether or not ‘immigrants are a burden on the NHS’ or not, your argument that the NHS is significantly staffed by immigrants is utterly irrelevant to deciding one way or the other. Staffing of the NHS is a supply issue. Demand for NHS services is independent of who administers them. You need to be more rigorous in your arguments if you wish to bring debates to an end.
2. My experience of registering etc at GPs, dentists etc was that the step change occurred in 1998 (namely just after the Blair Govt took over from Major et al). I have no knowledge whether it started sooner, that just happened to be when I moved form the SE to Manchester, so needed to shift practices. It seemed to me then that dentists were only interested in patients who would not actually need any dental work doing….
3. I also have to say to you Mr Murray that if your world is filled with honest people, you are a lucky man. I have met more totally immoral chancers and shysters, be they tradesfolk thinking an honest insurance claim meant they could triple their prices (they did not get the work); Toyota dealerships in the 1990s fraudulently drawing up lists of fictitious repairs (a £750 estimate to pass an MOT was reduced to £0 for a pass when I took the vehicle to a small honest independent in Oxford); junior employees flagrantly ignoring company reporting channels to try and steal my job just so they could have ‘team leader’ on their CV for 1 year prior to leaving; people telling me to falsely claim for whiplash after my company vehicle was hit from behind (I refused to because I had no whiplash); etc etc etc.
I assume that people are dishonest because so many times my presumption that others were honest has seen me totally shafted.
4. The difficulty with amnesties is simply that the employers who used the illegals will want to continue using illegals, so they just import some more. No politician simply has those employers either regulated or shut down. So honest folks feel that the crooks get a free pass and they have greater competition for jobs, thus driving their wages down. I would lay a barrel of Lagavulin that you will never have seen your job taken by an illegal immigrant, which makes your ability to perceive the wider realities somewhat limited. It is rather like all these people on full pay blithely telling 20 million people to face economic Armageddon. I personally want Piers Morgan, Laura Kuennsberg, Kate Viner, Hugh Pym, David Shukman, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan etc etc etc have their pay cut by 65% with the 65% being used to pay those not receiving any wages. Then we would see how the parasites of the media would start throwing tantrums……their jobs are utterly non-essential and if Dan Walker is driving daily from Sheffield to Manchester to host a breakfast show, then the police need to turn him around and tell him to lock himself down.
It will not happen, but the crux of the debate must be equality of voice for those whose economic circumstances have been decimated, not this never ending siren of voices form those still on £50k a year or more (often a lot, lot more).
Loony at 15:48-not sure why you express surprise that Mr Murray should be bemused that he can’t withdraw his money from the bank. Whilst you’re correct that once a deposit is made into a bank account it becomes bank’s property, at the same time a contractual arrangement comes into force requiring the bank to pay to,the depositer, an equivalent sum to that deposited with the appropriate interest, on the depositer’s demand. So Mr Murray could demand repayment of an equivalent sum to that standing in credit to his account with the bank. Assuming of course that the account is in credit. If not, the bank is entitled to offset the debit balance.
I was going to point out mostly what you said there Rhys…but you put it more eloquently.
Listening to that blue collar demographic is what got Trump in power in the US.
After this coronavirus outbreak has calmed down…hopefully by october…though i have doubts on that.,there will be a lot of jobs and businesses gone under and more people looking for work. If you add immigrants to the mix it could make 1929-30 look a walk in the park.
Thanks Rhys, that is an excellent post.
I don’t know why you can’t provide a simple mp3 download, what is said matters more than how it looks. Not that this particular material would be all that interesting to me and I’d probably disagree with you strongly, nor the Ethel Merman/Baraitser Judgess one, but the Diary of Rusbridger’s wig had potential. I don’t think you do or get humour most days, only rarely, the Burnes book is far from laugh-a-minute, more a tiring recounting of so-and-so’s sexual-excesses, gaudy clothes, slaves and jewels sparkling amongst oceans of poverty and disease. The Declaration of Arbroath one probably would appeal, though of historical, almost pre-historical interest it’s hardly relevant to the modern world and dire situation Scotland finds itself in vis-a-vis the Britnat fifth-column, Sturgeon and crew, and the ongoing cull. Some of us, probably many do not do youtube/google/nsa/… whoever in any shape or form. Predatory monopoly capitalism fused with state-security, forget it. Forget too trying to be trendy and appealing to those with five-second attention spans and instead try to be accessible to the greatest number of people. Audio, not eye-candy so we can do something even more useful and practical whilst still disagreeing with you profoundly.
A podcast does not have to always include the face of the speaker.
A bit of rather simple work in a video editor could replace this with artwork, or perhaps videos of beautiful countryside, or of people going about life. I suppose as an opponent of the oligarchs you need to make sure you have the legal rights (in their view) to use whatever artwork or videos you decide to show in order to keep the oligarchs’ barking lawyers at bay. But otherwise, since the message is in the sound, you can put it up as audio (some artists I know use Soundcloud), or you can put whatever pictures you like into the video.
Got any favorite cartoons? Ones that are either in public domain (in terms of the oligarchs barking lawyers) or done by someone who is sympathetic to the cause and willing to grant rights?
Meanwhile, the people who disagree with you profoundly will always find fault with whatever methods you choose to communicate. Communicate by smoke signals, and they’ll be screaming about that. So, just keep on communicating. But don’t be afraid to be creative. 🙂
paste YouTube url here …
https://www.y2mate.com/en42
… and download mp3.
I love these mini lectures. Keep them coming.
Stay safe from viruses and Britnat spies.
Thank you!
And yes, I’m one of those people who doesn’t really watch videos. At best, I’d put something on to listen to while I’m doing dishes, but I’m not one to sit if front of a screen and watch the whole thing. As befits the grandson of a librarian, I’m a reader. 🙂
But, thanks for doing this. I do realize that other people do watch videos and don’t like to read. I did some teaching for awhile, so I know that some people are the sort who learn best by reading, some learn best by listening, some learn best by watching. So, its great that you are using different formats. 🙂
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As to the title, I am a strong believer in the notion that “No One Is Illegal”.
I oppose this idea that each of us is condemned to live where our parents were born.
Especially in a world where money can move freely between nations. Where money can crash or inflate an economy at will. Especially in a world at war where there are forces (controlled by money) that destroys the conditions for life wherever the money decides there are profits in crushing home rule. In such a world, the right of people to leave their destroyed homes and the economy that was crashed by money is fundamental for life.
We are all migrants. Somewhere in East Africa, I suppose there is a group of people who can say their family lived in that place all the way back to the first humans. Everyone else, everywhere in the world, is a migrant. We owe it to treat our fellow migrants with kindness, dignity and respect. We must crush this modern fascism and racism that tries to say the most important thing that defines every other human being is “Who’s Your Daddy?”
I once took a basic course in economics.
That course taught that there are three fundamental inputs to a business. Capital, Labor, and Raw Materials.
In this world of neo-serfdom, it is a basic tenant that money (ie Capital) can flow freely across borders. In fact, it is pretty much a cause for war, at least economic war and most likely bloody military war, should any people in any nation try to stop or even vaguely control this flow.
Also, in this world of neo-serfdom, it has been declared that Raw Materials and all Goods must also be free to cross national borders at will.
It is only people, the Labor in the above statement, that are decreed by neo-serfdom, that they must be locked into cages and must be forbidden to cross borders. With all the racist tools at the Oligarchs disposal used to stir up hatred to try to keep it everybody in their assigned cages.
It is interesting that you equate the movement of money with the movement of people.
You could move $Zim trillions around the world – the question is why would you want to? Not all money has equal value or equal desirability. This is well known, well understood and essentially non contentious. By your own logic you acknowledge that not all people have equal value or equal desirability.
If you are British then do you think it would have been a good idea for the UK to export people like Myra Hindley and Ian Brady to some far off land, or do you think that they were a British problem and that the British had a responsibility to the rest of the world to deal with their own problem?
Ah the vacuous nature of virtue.
“Ah the vacuous nature of virtue.”
I can’t even begin to understand what that means. Thousands of years of philosophy centred on virtue. It is of course a central idea to most religions too. It seems people are quick to grab onto petty neologisms which have little benefit, but are good for ad hominem attacks.
East Africa is probably not the best example.
Interesting to hear your views on ‘why’ things have changed. If anyone isinterested it check out the DVD extra from the Michael moore film Sicko (available on youtube). There is an interview with Tony Benn who makes the point – when I get on a train, am I a passenger or a customer? In a hospital amI a patient or a customer? It seems we live in a world where economic language classifies us, and if you don’t have any money you can’t be a customer thereby relegating the poor. And here we are, relying on the low waged workers who can barely afford to live for our very survival.
Time to put them on a plane more like.
I think you ought to go into the Fenlands and pick your own veg. Jeff 12, cause there’ll be no immigrants doing it. English farmers are desperate for labour so you should pick vegetables for a day for those English pensioners, cause soon, whence you are leaving the EU cold and without any deal, you willnot only face the depression/ recession you soxraved for, but also starvation.
By picking veg. You can at least feed half of your family. Asfor using subsidised planes and subsidised fuel to getyour holiday kicks, forget it, only super rich exploiters of migrant labour will be able to afford that in future.
Go by a plane and offer your services to Priti not so pretty, why dont you Jeff?
I don’t know why you worry.
If it is true that the English are too lazy or too stupid to pick their own food then they will die of starvation. Problem solved.
It seems a peculiar argument to suggest that immigration is necessary in order to literally feed people who are unwilling to feed themselves. Once everyone dies of starvation then surely immigrants can come to enjoy the English climate free of nasty, brutish indigenous people.
You really are out of touch.Why don`t you sign up.“Thousands of British people have applied to work on UK farms following an urgent appeal to help feed the nation during the coronavirus pandemic.
Recruitment agency Hops Labour Solutions said it had been inundated with applications after warning of a shortage of seasonal workers to help harvest crops.”
https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/coronavirus-brits-flock-to-work-on-farms
Thank you for linking to Hops Labour exchange and let’s also hope that they are all paid a fair wage in time when they need it, Dave. I am glad that this will keep farmers farming.
The same nasty brutish people that speed theirs cars around and act as if roads were made for and belong to them alone. I’ve never been yelled at for cycling as much as by these flag-waving sports car driving pricks. They are worse than the Pretty Patels of the world even.
Actually, I should take that back.
It looks like Patel will soon be seen as someone just short of a child murderer.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/12/patel-refuses-to-take-children-from-greek-camps-threatened-by-covid-19
These politicians are a serious threat to the public good, and very poor role models for all those out there whose little minds are in the least susceptible to the stupidies of racism and xenophobia.
Are there no prisons for them?
Er…the corona virus pandemic is a scsm!! For those who’ve lost loved ones to the virus, condolences, bit it is not a cause for throwing the rulebook out of the window – not to save banks, not to tale extensive powers unto government, not to crash people’s livelihoods. Legislation/,administrative measures predicated on the corona virus will, odd exceptions apart, ne cross!
I Mike the bit about free migration. Coupled with a global minimum wage and some form of brake on country A fecking up the situation of Country B forma no good rreason, perfick!! Could be the hard part, though….
I never understood why immigrants who are illegal or who’s legal status is being determined are not allowed to work. Its like saying please go break the law so you can survive. Also asking them to come back to an appointment so they can be deported is the same as saying please disappear. My wife is an immigrant and has spent the last 23 years working as a carer helping the elderly and infirmed. Much more useful than what I have done with my life.
As for how the lock down will end. As Craig says this will happen when the numbers reduce. There is ample evidence in fact it is quietly admitted the number of dead from Covid-19 that they insist on wrongly referring to as corona virus is vastly exaggerated. When they say the daily total is 800 a more accurate estimate would be 160. Covid-19 has been made a notifiable disease while the flue and common cold are not. There is much evidence that people who have died of other causes are having Covid-19 put on there death certificates.
So how will the numbers come down. Either they will have to stop or lessen the exaggeration or the supply of people that are nearly dead but will die from the slightest infection is exhausted.
The good news is they can not repeat the covid-19 exercise until they have a good reserve of nearly dead people.
Brian – no – this is a great mystery. They could be usefully employed, generating wealth and paying taxes.
I think it may be a throw back to the bad old days of approximately 50 years ago. I remember when my mother tried school teaching – one obnoxious colleague made it clear that he thoroughly disapproved of married women taking teaching jobs – which should go to people who were the breadwinner of the household. It comes from the mistaken idea that the amount of work to be done is finite and that if an `illegal’ or someone whose status is to be determined then there is less work to go round among others.
It is nasty and also based on a thoroughly mistaken idea of how the economy actually works.
It is about illegal, not about immigrant. If someone forces himself into your house do you want him to work or be removed?
Say that to the settlers in Palestine.
Kbrian
You state confidently that only 160 people die everyday as a result of Covid-19. Do you have any sources. You presumably make these deductions by deducing the daily or weekly published mortality against those of last year at the same time, but if that is what you have done then you have to take into account that covid19 may have replaced or accelerated the death due to other seasonal disease but also that you are currently only seeing the beginning of the epidemic and the death toll. If this continues to accelerate the way it has been doing then you will see the real effect soon. This is a common error of those who rely on statistics, but do not look out of the window to see the crowded hospitals, the deaths in ITU and the unburied bodies in some parts of the world.
It’s good that you have your own broadcast studio Craig. I look forward to your talks and discussions with other guests in their own studios. It would be interesting to invite also the opposition to debate you ! Let’s hope they take up the offer.
Hello Mr. Murray, I really enjoyed your podcast, first podcast I have ever seen.
You came across very friendly and easy to understand ( I think you have a future as a talking book reader)
A goodly blend of different points, in how we will get out of this scrape.
My neighbour’s wife works in a carehome, she went in to work, last week and they told her one of her “customers” was now thought to be covid-19, she decided to go home, on her own volition, they told her, it was her choice but it would be without pay.
She is at home and now has covid-19
without pay.
I expect Boris Johnson still gets full pay?
It is always one rule for those at the top
and different arrangements for those, nearer the bottom.
The story with your neighbor’s wife is the story of unequality and unfairness. But unfortunately, it is so common all over the planet. Some are paid only upon completion of work, while others are paid to simply remain signed in office. It’s like being a queen, whether she’s sick or healthy, payments will still be received on time.
Once in my country they tried to create a social state, tried to extend guaranteed income to more sectors of society.
Craig,
You touched on a few points in your video, including:-
i) Illegal immigration; and
ii) Arms expenditures.
May I widen, at least try to, your points to the issue of how the global community functions.
To be a bit anecdotal:-
Over here in the Caribbean, I met a bright young Indian with whom I got chatting. He told me that he was nearing his eighteenth year of studying medicine in the US. The first thought that came to mind was that he must be incredibly dumb to be failing his medical examinations for all these years; much to the contrary. He was long since qualified, but there was an area of medical study which did in fact take eighteen years – and – he stated at the time that there were only 2,000 of such medics in the entire US. He had just about 2 years to be completed.
We enjoyed each others company and he opened up and told me a bit about his family. His father was the ‘bright kid’ in a poor Indian village and the village saved up to pay for his education. He continued in the US and was very successful and never forgot where he had come from and made significant contibutions to his village while still making a life for himself in the US.
Story of a legal immigrant I suppose. Your talk was about illegal immigration.
It seems to me that be it legal or illegal immigration – persons migrate in large measure to improve their lot in life. But, in the Third World what is that life in the main?
i) A country may be resource rich ( e.g. the Congo) – but is heavily dependent on export earnings – assuming that the country is not engaged in this ethic/tribal or religious or resource war(s). This does not auger well for steady economic growth and development.
ii) The terms of trade militate against the Third World country.
iii) Many of the skilled and/or professional people feel themselves significant under-rewarded and thus are motivated to migrate to greener pastures ( e.g. my young Indian tourist friend’s father).
But, assuming – no life threatening ethnic/religious tensions (e.g. Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar) – or war – then the country they were born in might be, in a geographical sense, extremely beautful with a most enticing tropical climate – so why not stay home and build the country? Some with qualifications assess and determine that life would not be long enough for them to secure their personal goals. So, they are skilled and able to accomplish their set material goals elsewhere abroad and they migrate. Many First World countries in fact actively encourage such migrants (e.g. Canada).
Then, at the other end of the socio-economic spectrum are the poor, who simply want to flee poverty.
Solution
Corivid-19 is in a tragic way is demnstrating to us just how fragile, interdependent ( e.g. disrupted supply chains and spread of the disease across national boundaries) we actually are. What does this observation have to do with illegal immigrants?
Well, even when a country increases its physical production levels the Third World countries still remain hostage to the terms of trade; harsh IMF loans to fill budgetary gaps and add to that the ‘brain drain’.
If so much can be found at an instant to produce armaments or to launch a war, be it the attack on Iraq or Libya – then surely it can’t seriously be contended that funds for economic stabilisation and growth and development in a sustainable manner do not exist for the Third World countries.
Conclusion
Isn’t this crisis not also inviting us to think and weigh in on thoughts for a new alternative global architecture – for if life with family and friends all around in a country with a viable economy is an option – then wouldn’t the majority of people across the world opt for warmer more welcoming climes than for the alrenative of more money in a less warm and socially less welcoming and more hostile environment?
Just asking?
Would it have been better if the Indians you mentioned in your article returned to India to look after their own people after their studies ? Eighteen years seems a very long training period for anything. I suspect the riches available for medics in the USA are too much of a temptation for them to go back home.
Billy Brexit,
” Would it have been better if the Indians you mentioned in your article returned to India to look after their own people after their studies ?”
I agree that you have answered correctly:-
” . I suspect the riches available for medics in the USA are too much of a temptation for them to go back home.”
You are correct – a life in a mansion in Michigan is a far more comfortable prospect than being King of the Village in India.
Altruism is a noble and scarce virtue – so a scarce commodity.
But, to be fair to them they did not totally abandon their village – they contributed financially – and – for themselves enjoyed the best of both worlds.
Life I guess.
Yes I agree it was a nice gesture to contribute financially to their homelands but I wonder if it was a means of offsetting their own guilt of selling out to their origins. I am happy to allow training for people from less developed countries, knowledge sharing is beneficial but should it be a passport to riches because the host country will not pay sufficiently to train it’s own people? This has been undoubtedly the policy of UK government and indeed UK companies who do not want the burden or expense of training. With the massive increase of higher education since Blair, there should be no need to import any higher level skills from less developed nations. Maybe we have been offering the wrong courses and charging too much for what in many cases are sub-standard institutions of learning.
Billy Brexit,
“… but should it be a passport to riches because the host country will not pay sufficiently to train it’s own people? ”
Rather the inverse. Just think about it – isn’t the perspective from which one views the phenomenon of migration really this:-
– A person from a wealthy country migrates to the tropical sun and purchases a beach front Villa, having to pay little to much reduced taxes – if any at all, for being designated ‘ a most favoured foreign investor’ who also gets a new passport for the inward investment; or
– the Indian doctors example which I cited.
So, the UK is able to attract a highly skilled medical or other professional and such person is slotted into a position much higher paid than in India – but is actually more qualified than his pay grade ( sometimes this actually happens).
From my perspective – it is the developing country which is the net loser – for when one computes the costs related to the Third World professionals’ education there in India etc. coupled with the loss of urgently needed skilled people – then the loss by way of migration is far more devastating to India etc. – and more beneficial to the UK – than the other way round.
When you get to illegal immigrants or seasonal agricultural workers at the other end of the economic spectrum – then surely you are in the domain of ‘sweated labour’ working to the economic advantage of the UK or US ect. as the case may be.
Nice broadcast. I hope it exerts a good influence on political activists looking for good ideas.
Just as the French Foreign ignores petty offences and provides a second chance as well as a pathway to citizenship for recruits, perhaps people whose immigration status is irregular should be given an amnesty of this sort if they volunteer in fields of work that put themselves at risk.
I hope your podcasts might be transcribed and edited some day, and published e.g. a book of essays entitled ‘Craig Murray talking sense’ or something like that. You may be interested to know that the world- famous Feynman Lectures on Physics were produced in just such a fashion (though they used audio tapes and photographs rather than videos).
Errata: “broadcast” should be “podcst”, insert “Legion” after “Foreign”.
& “podcst” should be “podcast”.
Courtenay: You can’t change human nature and evolution favours negative traits. People in parts of Britain can’t accept people from other parts of Britain, people in parts of Scotland can’t accept and treat normally, treat fairly, if not nice then at least equitably people from othe parts of Scotland. I still hear “You’re not even from (insert name of town)” and I’m in a part of Scotland just over a hundred miles from the part of Scotland I was born in and grew up in, even this afternoon on the phone to a council employee at their headquarters, I was told, almost commanded that I ought to move back to where I came from and didn’t belong here, having now lived here fifteen years and left my home town in the first place to escape sectarianism and homophobia and finding it’s exactly the same here, with the extra disadvantage of not being from round these parts. Thinking I had a softer Ayrshire/Renfrewshire accent, down here in (name of town) I’m Glaswegian Fenian Scum. Add in being gay, having disabilities and I’m a regular pariah anywhere I go. Where do you plan to start your utopia -it can’t possibly be planet earth, nor using the current human stock? Adding more unassimilable people isn’t going to help anyone, them or those already here, and for myself I’d much prefer not to live a fantasy multicultural heaven, of people so divided that they’re easy meat for divide et impera exploitative elite misrule, but with a a substantial majority of what I would call my own kind, in the broadest sense north-west Europeans. Fix broken first before compounding the problems.
Tony M,
May I share a little joke with you?
When I was a young boy growing up in Jamaica (long before I came to Britain to further my education) I was walking one day in an area near to Ocho Rios, close to where I lived with my Mom. I heard a heated exchange.
Now, what was then known as ‘Hand to mouth Street’ was no more than 500 yards from ‘Middle Street’. Something unpleasant had transpired between someone from the neighbouring street and another person. I then overheard one of the sages say, “yuh can’t trust dem Hand to Mouth people”. I later told my Mom and we had a jolly good laugh.
So, when you say, “… and I’m in a part of Scotland just over a hundred miles from the part of Scotland I was born in and grew up in..” I am making a point a bit wider than what you are observing and/or experiencing. I will try and explain. I believe that I know the UK reasonably well and I know Jamaica and the wider Caribbean also. Across the Caribbean there are people of European, Indian, African, Middle Eastern heritage, but they are fully integrated citizens within the individual Caribbean country they either migrated to or whose children were born, schooled and live in. They are not going anywhere else; yes for work or education reasons – but – they are there to stay.
My wider point really was about global opportunity and income disparities which cause migrations ( as well as wars and other causes).
Not saying that I am expecting the great ‘acceptance cum by yah’ moment – but – at the very least as sentient beings we can all realise and accept that we are all homo sapiens sharing the same planet – whether we really and truly have the brain power to accept that simple existential fact. Without that realization and acceptance – what then – genocide?
p.s.
I’ve long-suspected that the patterns displayed in Craig’s jumpers (which he knits himself) are a form of steganography and that through the intricacies of wool and maybe acrylic-mix, he’s passing information to someone or other, in our faces, yet covertly.
Tony, he also seems to pass some information quite openly!
https://prnt.sc/rwrhzg
looks like a call for help, especially given the recent mention of kittens in the house, doesn’t it? I hope he knows Morse code and can blink the message in the next podcast.
My Dad was a Shipwright in the Lower Clyde yards… When things got tough. and he was idle for a while he took up Knitting. How to read then Patterns ? ?
@Brianfujisan
Well, I’ve solved it; it’s easy as a children’s puzzle 🙂
Step 1.
Look closely at the first podcast, where Mr. Murray is in a jumper. From the very beginning he gives you a hint. It starts at 0:26
http://prntscr.com/rx8srp
Do you see it? He tells you “different cameras … show you different shots”
Step 2.
“different camera” may be a QR-code scanner in your smartphone, try using it on the jumper. Bingo, the upper left square pattern is recognized as a QR-code!
Step 3.
The QR-code leads you to the page on the web, with the Morse code clue
https://klike.net/uploads/posts/2019-11/1573813566_14.jpg
Step 4.
You may have noticed the horizontal ornament on the jumper, going from one shoulder up to the other. It has white background and dark symbols, looks like a telegraph line! The line is visible throughout the whole video, which indicates there’s a very important message in it!
Decifer it with the Morse code and you’ll be amazed to find out what it says!
“Folks, don’t be silly. It’s just a jumper. Please, do focus on what I’m saying.”
Great Podcast and Talk Craig.. Keeps one’s interest throughout
I enjoy the Podcasts..Keep Em up.
Thanks for Highlighting Domestic Violence – Dear to my heart for a couple of reasons – and as to how Isolation Will escalate the problem.
And also you mention Trident £220 Bn and rising.. Criminal
When Newly Married in My early 20’s I used to cut Rhubarb in the Fields for a about 3 years.. For a pittance.. 30 tins of the stuff in Tesco would have paid a days wages..ON A GOOD DAY… Because I was very Fit at the Time…Now they are Screaming out for workers / Immigrants
P.s One year that work took my Family ( Me, Wife, 4 kids ) to a Heatwave Holiday on Isle of Arran..So it ain’t all Doom n Gloom out in the fields.
1.3 million Brits have returned to the UK from abroad, many of these must be residents of other countries should these people be allowed to return?
I liked that the first edit of this post posted the “Singing Vanessa” video before it was updated, and I briefly pondered whether Vanessa was being held up as an example of the kind of immigrant who might benefit from an amnesty.
`:=)`
Craig, you need to alter that camera angle it makes you seem the same size as a garden gnome, you need to notch up the volume a tad too, not everyone listens in on devices with great sound output.
Adults are normally familiar with the concepts of interference and defects of the receiver. For people who are unable to perceive the essence of information, being distracted the defects of their receiveng system, there is a separate name for these people, and I’m afraid that the name is not flattering.
In general, my advice is – learn physics, people. Science is great.
I’m not a fan of TV or video. If anybody wants to borrow my visual imagination it needs to have a bit of drama,
Alien films, politic thrillers, or even art and landscape. Sorry. I’m perfectly happy for you to exist in your own spaces and times but I would rather not be distracted by someone’s face. Thanks.
It’s time for an amnesty on illegal colonial wars. Then two things would happen, 1/ The world would be a much safer place for people to live in, 2/ The rest of the world would slowly stop thinking its payback time for the historical and ongoing abuse they have suffered from the British ongoing Empire.
I strongly believe that the British people voted for Jeremy Corbyn in the last election and that we will have to end the secrecy of the ballots used in the election in order to convict the Tories of electoral crime.
The stakes were just too high for the Tories this time. If Corbyn had been allowed in, the whole evil policy of fanning the flames of illegal war would have been exposed. The Tories would have had to crawl back under their stones until another traitor like Clegg came along and tilted the dice in their favour.
These 2 events, Clegg being st Facebook and election fraud are not disconnected. The man continues to sabotage the will of the electorate long after his betrayal of 2010 when unexpectedly swung behind Cameron.
If this virus brings about revolution, which may well happen when people realise that the rich are using private healthcare to obtain plasma vaccinations against the disease, the first thing to go will be the apparatus of universal spying, second thing to go is private healthcare and schooling, third, privately owned companies and last, state selling off of national assets.
When we have surgically removed the Tories, then we can start giving majesties to visitors. The first objective is to totally dismantle and reverse 40 years of bankrupt Thatcherism
Corona benefits
In this country the benefits are clear, and should be in others
When the ruling class at the first excuse of a problem starts to treat regular locals as badly as they previously treated immigrants, martial law arrest on sight, distinction between essential and non, then the locals, one by one, will understand how oppressed and how superfluous they are
All they were good for was to hate the immigrants, so that the immigrants were to work harder when they lived in fear of the people about and thought that the ruling class were their protectors
The new rule is you all must live in fear, so what use is a local who (a) is not used to fear (b) is not used to work (c) is too fat for use.
This is the occasion and the freedom to organise – when the state treats all lives equally as illegal (as of course they always have, you did not notice, else you pretended not)
Gerrard White
In the construction industry workers at all levels are hired and fired on zero hour contracts. In effect this means that nobody has to consider your previous knowledge and experience. You are lower than the apprentice who is at least a regular.
We are fearless because if the pratra in charge do wooblies we move into the next job somewhere else. We work very hard because we like hard work. We say, when we go to far distant colonised countries abroad, “Can we seek asylum in your country please? it seems more friendly and organised than screw-you-Tory-England”.
But they don’t understand.
I’m not sure who the they are in ‘but they don’t understand’
In this country there’s hardly a construction industry, and in any case everyone is on zero hours except for bureaucrats and ex pats
but that only means that this crisis, by that I refer to the general intervention policies of all governments worldwide, not the bug, has made clear there are no political divides in the ruling class into this or that ‘party’, no divisions or disagreements by colour creed or continent, and that one and all are right to fear them wherever they are……..and so to organise
I’m not a fan of podcasts but enjoyed this one.
Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks,
Richard
You’re turning into a Joe Biden Craig!
As you indicate, in real life, to participate, you must prove your identity, justify your presence wherever you are, and validate what you’re doing. You are hyperaccountable.
In digital pretend life, you may participate anonymously or pseudonymously, without justifying your intentions or performance, and you may freely cause harm with impunity. You are comprehensively unaccountable, in libertarian heaven.
I wonder what the consequences of this inversion are and will be.
On podcasting: your writing has scholarly cohesion, unlike most journalistic splutterings; podcasting [not just yours] lacks that. Perhaps self-guidance might include podding out your casts in short coherent blurts, whenever the intellectual spirit moves you.
This discussion of illegal immigration is rather like passengers on the Titanic discussing the weather shortly after colliding with an iceberg.
RT write about the herd immunity tactic UK used for a short time, now the result is clear in another country that still use it…
Sweden’s flawed coronavirus battle plan hits the poor & elderly, resulting in worst death count among Nordic countries
https://on.rt.com/aemq
WHO figures from April 11th.
Lock down UK Incidence = 96.4 per 100k and 118.1 deaths per million of population
Non lock down Sweden = 91.1 incidence rate and 79.0 deaths per million of population.
No one disputes that poor and elderly anywhere will be more likely to die from the illness because their systems will not be robust enough to cope with a new strain of virus, same as with the Martians in H.G Wells “War of the Worlds” and as I remember Craig discussed in a previous article..
Crispa
The obvious comment is of course that without that lockdown it would be even more death.
Look at China for what lockdown mean in terms of deaths.
Wrong. It’s a flu type virus. Lockdown will only prolong it.
Lockdown mean the ability to tackle it accordingly, look at China or its neighbouring states that managed it good.
Dear Craig,
being such a kind and considerate person, it is amazing how many misogynistic old farts inhabit your comment section.
Opposites attract?
Had to watch your podcast in three sittings, interrupted by putting up a poly tunnel by myself. It came in lots of plastic bags all numbered and with an instruction pamphlet that had non hints or tips on how to be more time efficient. But it’s up now bar the cover and I’m ready for your new form of communication.
The issue of splashing out billions on a clapped out Cold War relic and all that keeps it going, is beyond my understanding, dare I say it’s criminal in the face of childhood poverty, workers in need to use food banks and the hoops and hurdles that are keeping disabled people and UC applicants for weeks, some for month without any means to make ends meet and or feed themselves.
After lockdown it is important that we are not falling back into the same unsustainably polluting and brainless activities that have got us to this point of banking control over small and medium sized businesses. Not registering or allowing other shareholders, Ensuring that investors are in it for the long time and that an annual 15-20% of profits are invested annually into R+D. It is armies of shareholders wanting their annual pound of flesh that are making companies unstable and open to the beckon and call of financial hyenas.
According to to the largest hedge fund in the world, who has intentionally told its investment managers to divest out of all fossils fuels into more sustainable green long term viable investments change is on the way to some extent, but I agree that small communities with common cause, goodwill and community spirit can, together with neighbouring villages of the same hue, could achieve more local cohesion and a more sustainable surrounding. The climate will determine our future agricultural successes and growing a tree in every garden, in the right location that allows it to grow up, would make a massive change to any city/town or village environments.
We, collectively, have to use this healthcare crisis, it’s not a national defence emergency or a war, to demand the change that is appropriate for our children’s future, there are many ways this can be achieved, the common weal has already mentioned, but there is a plethora of information out there, starting with our personal habits, transport, alternative energy production and what we can do to feed ourselves whilst nourishing our souls at the same time.
This Swedish site is all about the climate and safeguarding the future, one of many out there, but change must come to us all: https://sweden.se/climate
So, where to start is not really a debating point, but that we all start somewhere should be a given.
Thanks for your new formal, if it makes it easier for you and allows you more time to achieve change, so be it. Personally speaking, I prefer reading about it, but I can change as we all must. Thank you Craig.
Severasl Projects need to be reviewd, after covid-19 has calmed down.
Trident, full lifetime project costs are expected to top 1/3 trillion pounds
but who will say what a pound will be worth?
Heathrow runway three – will no longer be wanted, as less people want to travel, partially as air travel is what has brought covid-19 to our lslands.
Hinkley Point C, the most expensive electricity, ever known.
What happens when the next pandemic wipes out the nuclear workforce, who will then save us from meltdown?
HS2 do we really need to get from Manchester to London in double quick time
the most expensive rail project ever thought of for England?
Universities are now mostly locked down, in future as we will need to grow more of our own food, plant more trees, use renewable materials, we will require more people who will not work from home, they will not need a university education, which will financially break them before their adult life has got going, more home grown farmers, forest workers, builders, fishermen and manufacturers,
will be required, not more office workers/button pushers.
“after covid-19 has calmed down.”…… Has the flu virus. “calmed down” ?