Science isn’t a matter of who to believe. That’s just the way the “news” media present it, because most journalists and editors treat everything like politics or crime; they don’t know any better.

Science is a matter of considering evidence, and there’s lots of that which is available to the public, if you know where to look.

Vaccine dangers and safety are a good example. These are checked from public health service records. I’m not saying it’s infallible, but it’s much, much better than secret trials by manufacturers hidden behind NDAs.

– “it does not mean any vaccine they come up with for the masses will be the same vaccine”

The vaccine for the masses would always be better tested than the secret one, because the more people effects are seen in the better it is understood.

@ Clark April 26, 2020 at 11:10
You probably haven’t yet watched the White House Open Mike video.
On the basis of your comment, there would be no biological warfare plans at all, because the perps wouldn’t have protection themselves. I’m sure you would agree that biowarfare is indeed planned for, with stockpiles of bio-weapons ready and waiting for deployment.
They had a vaccine for anthrax, which was given to Congressmen and others pre the 9/11 anthrax attacks – how did they test those vaccines?

Science isn’t like foreign policy, and being a scientist isn’t like being a spook. Science is more like a jigsaw puzzle, the pieces are on display and the objective is to fit them together, whereas foreign policy is like poker, loads of bluff and no card is known until it’s played.

The culling theory is nearly always directed at the UN, so I reckon it’s for spreading distrust because some US parties would rather there was no International Law at all. When the US/UK etc. want to smash some country, the corporate media mention the UN and International Law as little as possible. Remember how they kept throwing doubt on the UN weapons inspections in Iraq, which kept coming up negative. That was cast as “look how slow the UN Inspectors are – they’re procrastinating, they’d have found the weapons by now if they were really looking for them. Get on with it; time for war!”

@ Clark April 26, 2020 at 11:18
‘…But there was no way the DU was going to turn up in their own back yard. Not so with a virus…’
It does turn up in their backyard, and has, but in much smaller amounts, via dust storms. But it turns up quite a lot in their ‘allies’ regimes, like in the Middle East.
And like the tremendous pollution from the oil field fire set by the Yanks deliberately, just so Kuwait would have to pay a US firm to put them out.
I was told this years back by Ian Crane, who explained it to our group of 9/11 Truthers. He had been in the area at the time, as an oilfield worker (he had a high position – I forget what it was) and he when he asked questions about the fires, was told to basically shut up about it (like Craig). Then recently I saw a Coronavirus video of a Dr. who was in the US military in the area at the time, and he told the same story, but in far greater detail.
That pollution spread over Kuwait, Iraq and Saudi Arabia, and any ‘Coalition’ troops in the area.

Oh the US dominates everything, but that’s not a good reason to give up on things. There’s still the General Assembly, and most of those countries have serious grievance towards the US, even though they are often also dominated by the US and accept compromises that they’d rather not.

Actually, it isn’t the US; capital dominates everything, especially the US. Mammon.

The lawyer who influenced William Rodriguez was Phil Berg, in Summer 2004.

Tony M, what do you think depleted uranium is, and where do you think it comes from? And what does the 8% consist of, and where do you think that comes from? And where are you getting these ideas? Five questions there…

Tony M, the point I made stands; it is unlikely that SARS-CoV-2 was deliberately released as a weapon because it can’t be targeted. The DU used in, say, Fallujah has not caused anything like as many birth defects in the rest of the world.

– “You seem to have an unwillingness to do research which does not serve to confirm your pre-existing ideas and indoctrination, yet pose as an expert in all things, usually in support of , excusing, downplaying elite criminal and moral wrong-doing.”

Please don’t be rude, and please don’t say things about me that are false; I have worked with Craig and this site for over a decade, opposing and campaigning against war and torture. I’m doing research, by asking you. I understand that you’re angry; I am angry too, but making false accusations against you would not help, and I’d like you to understand that your false accusations against me definitely hinder; they damage my emotional state, sap my enthusiasm and waste my time in refuting them. Such searing moral superiority drives people from the cause.

Truth, Justice, Peace.

We can’t achieve peace without justice, and justice can only be based upon truth. When false allegations are made they are easily disproven, which discredits the campaign.

98% U238 looks a bit odd because even natural uranium is over 99.27% U238, making the DU you refer to possibly look enriched rather than depleted. The other substances you list would be found also in natural uranium, apart from technetium-99.

Did we have a similar conversation years ago? Because I remember being told of impurities and suggesting that uranium from reprocessing might have been used in munitions. I see that the Wikipedia article now includes a UN report that uranium from reprocessing was found in Kosovo in November 2000 (the cited article has gone so I modified the citation to include archive.org). Such uranium should really be called ‘reprocessed’ rather than ‘depleted’, but it would pass the US military’s definition which is based merely upon percentages, not source. Selling waste from the reprocessing industry for munitions manufacture might have been abused as a way of disposing of it; I can’t think of any other advantage.

Clarke
“SA, that speculation still has considerable expert support. Minority opinion, but not ruled out so far as I know. Just because SARS-CoV-2 came through bats doesn’t mean the bats weren’t in a lab.”

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. But of course this is the sort of language unfortunately used to sow doubt about Russia and Novichok, Russia and interference with elections, WMD in Iraq and so many other incidents. It is a pattern I am afraid. I think we should look at it the other way round, the way the law operates, innocent until proven guilty, and it is up to the accusers then to produce credible evidence, not just work on hypothetical possibilities.
And yes the bats may have been in a lab, but which one? The one that was closed down because it was unsafe?

Apologies Clark. I’m sorry. This is the wrong thread of course. I know people, lovely people, clever, caring people, with serious health problems they attribute unambiguously to DU, though they’ve possibly has other service-related exposures such as vaccinations given them in the forces, as well as a possibililty of residual traces of nerve gases dating back to eighties in the areas they found themselves.

On SARS-COV2 I’m undecided about the origins, the prevalence of so many strains in the US, not seen in China, the ‘vaping’ illnesses, the very many people I’ve spoke to here, across Scotland, who reckon they had it in in mid-December-2019, “the worst flu they’ve ever had in their lives”, fit people, football-players etc. which might still though have been bad cases of flu, but with lingering after-effects after the more florid effects had passed. Discrediting the alleged Chinese origins, reducing likelihood of entirely natural origin, Wuhan labs, or wet-markets. The seeming many strain variations, mutations, composition and possibly genetic specificity and stark differences in effects, from deadly to mild, suggests we may be comparing apples with oranges, and that what ‘the west’ is experiencing is an attenuated form as cover for something much worse unleashed on China, Iran Ecuador etc. We don’t have people walking along then collapsing dead in the streets. I can’t account either for the Spanish and Italian outbreaks other than perhaps some genetic overlap with the indigenous middle-east population. Something is fishy. I never attribute to incompetence or chance that which can more simply be attributed to extreme murderous malice on the part of five-eyes and their puppet-masters.