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Jack
What west fear is high on oil prices so just when the oil price was about to skyrocket because of israeli aggression against Lebanon, the saudis “save” Israel/west by increasing the oil export levels:
Oil prices fall on prospects of lower Saudi Arabia price target
Saudi Arabia is preparing to abandon its unofficial price target of $100 a barrel for crude as it prepares to increase output, the Financial Times reported on Thursday, citing people familiar with the matter.
Another obstacle out off the way for Israel to wage their full scale invasion of Lebanon that is.
AGJack
“Would you say that deep down germans are more critical of Israel than they perhaps dare/will admit openly?”
Of course they are.
83% of the German population use Smartphones.
You cannot control reality in such a fashion that they would not find out about Gaza.Of course the surveys you quote are known, FORSA being one of the biggies in the polling business, but it´s not being reported every single day.
Were it, some things could change really fast.
People know. But naturally family, job safety, friends come first.Allan HowardI posted the following in the current thread earlier (Netanyahu Plays Chicken) and it just occurred to me to post it on here so it’s easier to find for research purposes (as AG suggested several weeks ago in respect of a comment I posted at the time):
I did a search a bit earlier re >only one baby was killed on october 7< and, as such, ended up saving around a dozen or so articles from the list of results to new tabs so that I could then go through them one by one. And the article I just got round to checking out turned out to be one that I came across ages ago, and almost definitely before Christmas, and I definitely posted it on at least one site, but I don’t remember which, but it was either Skwawkbox or JVL or this site.
I didn’t realise until I started reading it that it was this article that I came across before, posted on November 16th, and at the time I think I must have focussed on the main issue raised in the story (or to be precise, what *I* regarded as the main issue) – ie that the World Jewish Congress posted the names of some children they said were killed by Hamas on October 7th that turned out to be the names of Israeli children in an article published in 2014. It’s convoluted, so here’s a clip from it:
It appears that the Instagram post by the World Jewish Congress — an organization representing Jewish communities globally — shown in the video does repeat some of the names included in a list from 2014 of children who had been killed in Israel over the preceding years.
Although the post is no longer available, a reverse-image search shows that the organization did post a graphic on its Instagram page with the title “Israel’s children murdered in the Hamas massacre” and a list of names.
We emailed and called the World Jewish Congress about the Instagram post, but we didn’t hear back.
Hmm, I wonder why not… Anyway, further down the page towards the end of the article it says the following:
As we have written, Israel’s National Center of Forensic Medicine has been working to identify the remains of those killed on Oct. 7. Forensic pathologist Chen Kugel, the head of the center, said the ages of those killed ranged from 3 months to 80 or 90 years, according to The Media Line, an American news outlet that covers the Middle East.
Kugel also told the Los Angeles Times that initially most of the bodies could be identified through DNA. Now, the staff’s work involves “reassembling and reconnecting pieces” of remains found in the landscapes where the killings occurred.
For example, what initially appeared to be a piece of charcoal was examined through a CT scan, Kugel said. The scan revealed, “These were people who were hugging one another and burned while they were tied together. It might be a parent and a child.”
I don’t suppose for one minute that it could have been the Israeli tanks and helicopter gun ships that incinerated them all!
NB How the feck does a scan of a piece of charcoal reveal that they were tied together?! Oh, right, and it might have been a parent and a child!
Anyway, I should just quickly point out that just prior to reading THIS particular article, I had read the transcript of a Chris Hedges interview with Max Blumenthal on November 17th, and I’ll post just one wee bit from it:
Max Blumenthal: Well, when I first went to Gaza in 2014, in the midst of Israel’s 51-day-long assault on Gaza, I came across a car that was on the roadside that had been roasted by a Hellfire missile along with its driver. The driver’s body had been removed but it was undoubtedly charred and you could actually see his sandal melted into the gas pedal. He had been hit by a Hellfire missile. I embedded the picture in my article to compare it to the vehicles that the Israeli Foreign Ministry was pointing to as evidence of Hamas savagery, and it’s identical.
Oh, and this!:
But if you look at the confirmed death count, only one Israeli baby was killed. It’s horrible and tragic. It was a 10-month-old baby named Millie Cohen, who was accidentally shot by Hamas gunmen in an exchange of fire.
And more reporting will come out about this, but you can look at the confirmed death toll at Haaretz. There’s no other baby.
https://therealnews.com/did-israels-military-kill-its-own-civilians-on-oct-7
PS What I was trying to determine is the date that it was first mentioned that just one baby was killed.
PPS The baby’s name was actually Mila Cohen.
Allan HowardAfterthought: As I’ve said before, you can be 1,000% certain that the MSM have known for months and months – and almost definitely as of since December – that only one baby was killed on October 7th (albeit not deliberately) and, as such, that the 40 beheaded babies story (and the other various versions of it) was a falsehood and atrocity propaganda, and yet not one single British MS news outlet has said as much. I mean I wouldn’t expect them to say that it was atrocity propaganda of course, but the fact that none of them have mentioned it at all is because they want their readers and viewers and listeners to go on believing that Hamas actually did such an evil thing.
That said – ie that they have undoubtedly known since at least last December – I have little doubt that they knew that it was a big lie and atrocity propaganda from the outset. I know I did, my thinking at the time being that Hamas are hardly gonna do something like that and, in doing so, lose the support of many people around the world who are sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians. And, also, that they have no history of decapitating people, let alone babies.
It seems to me that in all likelyhood BN and his fascist buddies had all the atrocity propaganda already concocted and contrived and prepared prior to October 7th, ready to be deceminated by various ‘agents’, and if you knew an attack was coming, as they undoubtedly did, and long before it actually happened, then THAT would be the most obvious thing in the world for such evil malevolent inhuman beings to do. And Biden and Blinken and Co would have been in on it all, of course.
I mean we ARE talking about some of the most evil people on the planet.
NB The only MSM that I’ve come across (so far) that posted articles about the disparity are France 24 and The Times of India (and Haaretz). and in both cases it was an AFP article (Agence France-Presse). Here’s a clip from it:
The data gives a clear picture of the scale of the atrocities at the Supernova music festival in Reim where 364 people were killed.
But it also invalidates some statements by Israeli authorities in the days following the attack.
In particular, a claim made on October 10 on the government’s official X (formerly Twitter) account spoke of “40 babies murdered” at Kfar Aza kibbutz, based on a report by i24NEWS channel.
Questioned by AFP the following day, Israel’s foreign ministry, which runs the X account, said it could not “confirm any number at this stage”.
According to Bituah Leumi, 46 civilians were killed in Kfar Aza, the youngest 14 years old.
Other media outlets have posted articles in respect of the age group breakdown of Israelis killed on October 7th – The Times of Israel and i24news, for example – but they ommitted to mention the disparity.
AG“Meet the First Tenured Professor to Be Fired for Pro-Palestine Speech
Maura Finkelstein was terminated by Muhlenberg College for an Instagram repost.”26/9/24
https://theintercept.com/2024/09/26/tenured-professor-fired-palestine-israel-zionism/Intro + mid point (it´s a longer report):
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Neither her longtime public support of Palestinians, however, nor the courses on Palestine she taught in her early years at the school prevented Finkelstein from earning tenure in 2021. Following the arduous tenure process, professors are supposed to enjoy lifetime job security and robust safeguards of academic freedom. The bar for dismissal from a tenured academic position is by design meant to be extremely high, requiring justifiable cause.
In late May, however, Muhlenberg told Finkelstein that she was fired. The reason? She had shared, on her personal Instagram account, in a temporary story slide, a post written not by herself but by Palestinian poet Remi Kanazi calling for the shunning of Zionist ideology and its supporters.
“Do not cower to Zionists,” Kanazi wrote on January 16. “Shame them. Do not welcome them in your spaces. Why should these genocide loving fascists be treated any different than any other flat out racist.” At the time, Israel had already killed over 22,000 Palestinians in Gaza, the majority of whom were women and children.For Finkelstein’s repost of Kanazi’s words, the college determined that their employee of nine years had violated its equal opportunity and nondiscrimination policies.
“The College at all times follows its mission, policies and procedures with respect to matters arising under our Equal Opportunity and Nondiscrimination Policy and the Faculty Handbook,” said Todd Lineburger, Muhlenberg’s vice president for communications. “Per those policies and procedures, the College does not comment on confidential matters.”
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According to an article in the Muhlenberg student paper at the time, students enrolled in Finkelstein’s classes were given scant information about her suspension, aside from an email from the provost on January 24 saying their professor was on leave.“I was immediately upset with the college, as there were zero updates as to what was happening,” one anonymous student told The Muhlenberg Weekly. “[F]rom the limited information that I do know, it seems like a heinous violation of Dr Finkelstein’s academic freedom, something which Muhlenberg claims to pride itself on having.”
Faculty colleagues who sought further details on the situation also reported feeling left in the dark.
“We weren’t allowed to ask questions, we weren’t given information,” Muhlenberg professor of sociology, Janine Chi, told me.
“It has been chilling,” she said of the school’s treatment of Finkelstein, then reconsidered: “I used the word chilling in the Fall. I think at this point I will call it an icy tundra.”
(…)”JackThis past weekened UN General assembly met and every nation could go on to the podium and hold a speech.
Countless of nations from various continents blasted Israel and sometimes the western support for Israel, but of course one would not know since the western media did not report on it, here are some of these nations, not a full list:Malaysia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEs39X_TQg4
Slovenia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW3piFkXM5Q
Indonesia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXBsIaXy7Hg
Malta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPu02ftVhnQ
Barbados
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_got5rApjJ4
Trinidad-Tobago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqt4FQ20xaw
North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKkKWG0HSSI
Jordan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wIjBZOG8v0
Turkey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbHe1oIln-c
Brazil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE5Cv6F8Uss
Libya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq7M4AAk6Bk
Pakistan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTMm8BYRG4E
Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmsikebXZuM
etcJackhey mod, any chance a comment I just made in this thread ended up in the spam filter? It was a post about speeches at the UN, there were many links in it to youtube, perhaps it was considered spam?
[ Mod: Yes, I think it was automatically caught in the spam filter as there were so many links. By the way, remember that the code for italics in the forum is<em> </em>
, not<i> </i>
. ]JackSigh
Biden provided the arms, Biden provided the ammo., biden provided cover for the crimes, escalation every day and now Biden claim to be irritated by Israel’s behavior!? Yeah right.
Biden ‘frustrated’ by Israel – Politico
“As his influence over Netanyahu shrunk, the president’s anger grew,” Politico wrote. It cited unnamed officials as saying that phone calls between Biden and Netanyahu have “increasingly turned into shouting matches.”
https://swentr.site/news/605146-biden-angry-at-israeli-conduct/
AG“Chris Hedges Q&A on Rising Tensions in Middle East”
60 min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsXQQi09zusETThis made me laugh. Boris Johnson states in his memoir that a “listening device” was found in his personal bathroom after it was used by Netanyahu back in 2017. Maybe it’s Boris trying to boost sales of his memoir.
ETIsraeli Defence Forces tells Irish and Unifil to remove peacekeepers from Lebanese border outpost. The request has been rejected.
“It is understood the Irish Government has informed Israeli officials that Unifil troop movements are a matter for the UN and its force commander on the ground. Unifil has told Israel it will not be removing the troops.”
ShibbolethIsrael has prohibited international journalists from reporting in Gaza and google Earth have not updated satellite images of the territory for over a year, so the true scale of the horrors and ponerology perpetrated by the Zionists has been largely hidden from scrutiny. Until now. Whilst many Israeli’s are complicit in this genocide, this documentary also identifies other nationalities – US, UK, French – all equally culpable, which supports the claim that Zionism, is a curse on humanity and must be proscribed as a terrorist entity and dealt with accordingly.
JackShibboleth
Israel has prohibited international journalists from reporting in Gaza and google Earth have not updated satellite images of the territory for over a year
Funny you brought that up, I just read about this issue yesterday elsewhere.
Basically Israel have managed the US not to sell/show/satellite footage over Palestine.The U.S. has special rules for satellites over one country: Israel
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/16/1212889717/satellite-images-us-israel-gaza
Just another way to censor and cover the war crimes, destruction and annexaation of Palestine.
ShibbolethIndeed, Jack. Al Jazeera have just uploaded an addendum to their GAZA documentary illustrating the complicity of the western mainstream media CNN, BBC etc in the genocide.
https://youtu.be/UAmk4efA2t0?si=KARdigSsAlFAggbn
I’m struck by the similarities with the manipulation by the media of the 9/11 atrocity – but of course, the internet was in its infancy back then, so I guess it was an easier task until online content emerged 4/5 years later. I think Craig Murray still believes the official explanation for 9/11 as frames in the 9/11 commission report – but I think the evidence suggests otherwise. Especially after the events over the last year.
We really should have paid attention to voices like this: https://www.bollyn.com/
ShibbolethWith reference to history, the reason for Gaza..
https://www.tiktok.com/@baaquli_22/video/7301829164473142560
ShibbolethOne more. Holy Redemption. The barbarism of the hilltop settlers.
JackYes one wonder what regimes like Israel, Saudiarabia knew before the attack on 911.
When it comes october 7 there are also still too many questions that has not been answered: Both Egypt and US warned Israel (probably other nations too) that something was about to happen, still Israel, that have 24/7 surveillance tech of all different kinds over Gaza missed the massing of, what, atleast 2000 palestinians? Missed the public videos of Hamas sharing of how they made test-runs with the paragliders, how they trained to take hostages?
Egypt said it warned Israel days before the attack that “an explosion of the situation [was] coming, and very soon, and it would be big.”[80] Israel denied receiving such a warning,[81] although Michael McCaul, Chairman of the US House Foreign Relations Committee, said that warnings were given three days before the attack.[82]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Hamas-led_attack_on_Israel#Events_leading_to_the_attack
In one clip, militants are seen practicing take-offs, landings and assaults with paragliders. The metadata showed it was filmed over a year ago. The shadows and position of the sun in the video also indicates that filmed training sessions either lasted for hours, or took place on multiple days.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middleeast/hamas-training-site-gaza-israel-intl/index.html
I would not put it past Israel if they knew Hamas was about to attack to justify what we see now. Remember how much street protests there were against Netanyahu before the war in Israel, his popularity was tanking rapidly, so what better way to get popular again by another big war?
Spring of 2023:
Poll Shows Netanyahu Crashing, Gantz Far Ahead, Lapid Second
Just 20 percent of respondents in the Channel 13 poll say that Netanyahu is doing well as a prime minister, compared to the 71 percent who say that he is doing badlyAnd one see after 1 year how Israel “needed” this type of event to justify destryoing in part/whole Hamas, Hezbollah and possibly even Iran. Just like the have wished for for decades. Cui bono from 7th october? Pretty obvious.
JackWho is Netanyahu? Articles from 1996:
Spook, Terrorist or Criminal? America’s Mysterious Files on Netanyahu
Nevertheless, Netanyahu’s files differ from those of most U.S. citizens. The Israeli weekly Ha’ir reports that four requests for credit approval appear in U.S. social security file number 020-36-4537. Under each request one finds a different name: Benjamin Netanyahu, Benjamin Nitai, John Jay Sullivan and John Jay Sullivan Jr.—one man, four names.
ISRAEL WANTS REAL NETANYAHU TO PLEASE STAND UP
https://www.deseret.com/1996/7/5/19252801/israel-wants-real-netanyahu-to-please-stand-up/
And “John Sullivan”? Odd or rather fitting name to pick:
It’s quite remarkable that one of Netanyahu’s aliases is John Sullivan, the name of the American general who in 1779, with 4,000 troops, attacked Iroquois villages, and or days burned houses and food crops and harvests, raped and murdered Iroquois women and children. Role models.
AGBy Jeremy Kuzmanov:
On the One-Year Anniversary of October 7, It is Clear We Were Not Told The TruthThis issue has been present since day#1 here and elsewhere.
excerpts:
Even a mainstream news network like ABC aired a special report about a team of female IDF officers stationed near the border who had reported suspicious activity to their superiors days before the October 7 attack only to have their report ignored. Most of the female IDF officers were slaughtered when their base was overrun on October 7.
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Giraldi’s perspective is reinforced in a new documentary about October 7, narrated and edited by John Hankey.
The film shows footage of two purported Mossad agents opening the gates to the electric fence to Hamas fighters to allow them to enter Israel and carry out the terrorist attacks of October 7.
Additionally, the film suggests that: a) Mossad knew in advance of the October 7 attack and may have helped to plan it; b) IDF officers were deliberately withdrawn to allow the Hamas invaders to enter the country and carry out their attacks; c) female IDF soldiers who reported on Hamas activities were deliberately ignored and then allowed to be killed; and d) many of the killings of Israeli civilians were carried out by IDF soldiers as part of the deception operation, whose purpose was to inflame Israeli opinion in support of war.
AG“The film shows footage of two purported Mossad agents opening the gates to the electric fence to Hamas fighters to allow them to enter Israel and carry out the terrorist attacks of October 7.”
A few years ago I would have discarded such a statement. Being too easy an explanation, Unverifiable, those Mossad could be anyone, too made-up.
Not any more after the permanence of lies and false flags all over the place.
Which doesn´t mean we ought not apply our scrutiny or demand it.ET‘Carpet-bomb and napalm the Irish area’ – US ‘peace’ adviser Matthew Brodsky’s deranged comment.
It’s suggested in the article that the IDF is using the UN peace keeping outpost as a kind of shield.There is a short tik-tok video posted by one of the soldiers on base. Gotta love the irish accents :D.
JackHaha once again we see that US and Israel interests are not the same:
US offering Israel ‘compensation’ for partially sparing Iran – media
The country has so far rejected Washington’s call not to attack Iranian oil and nuclear facilitieshttps://swentr.site/news/605344-us-compensation-israel-iran/
So Israel threat to cause a major war, that the US do not want, so the US have to give Israel some candy to shut up.
Time and time again we how the interests differ whereas Israel their neocon agents try to cause havoc in the middle east vs the US, that seek to maintain status quo.
How long could this humiliating (for the US) relationship go on?
Allan HowardIt’s been at the back of my mind for some time to try and find out if it was the first time the Nova Music Festival had been held in Israel, or NOT. And this morning, by chance, I got the answer. It WAS (the first time):
What we know about the Supernova festival where Hamas militants killed hundreds of attendees
By Tessa Flemming with wires
Mon 9 Oct 2023Billed as the “first time” the Brazilian psy-trance festival Universo Paralello was held in Israel, thousands of festival goers descended on the desert outside of Kibbutz Re’im for the Supernova event.
I’ve also been trying to determine where the initial site was and why it got cancelled just two days before (Oct 7th) and how the organisers came to find the site close to the border with Gaza, and the only thing I’ve determined so far is that it was in the south (of Israel). It was mentioned in passing in one of about a dozen or more articles I was checking out yesterday that came up in the results when I did a search in respect of the music festival. The following Times of Israel article from September 8th, 2024, also came up in the results, which contains more details than I was previously aware of about the failure of the IDF to warn the festival organisers:
Report shows IDF’s silence on fears ahead of Nova, failure to react as massacre unfolded
On the eve of the Supernova music festival on October 7, the security professionals responsible for the event repeatedly asked for information about a potential terror threat from Gaza, and were rebuffed by senior IDF commanders, according to a television report on Sunday.
Deputy Superintendent Nivi Ohana of the nearby Ofakim police station, who oversaw security for the event, even asked the military explicitly about a potential terrorist infiltration, according to the Channel 12 report, and did not receive a response.
The 24-minute TV exposé included details from documents in the days leading up to the event showing expressions of concern from the festival’s security team, communications between police and the military during the massacre, and recently released footage of fighting during the invasion.
On October 6, senior IDF officers even held several late-night meetings about the situation — as has previously been reported — but in none of the discussions did anyone bring up the Supernova party, according to Channel 12.
“Israel Police received no indication that anything was taking place. Maybe if we had been a part of [the discussions], we could at least have made a decision to shut down the party,” Azulai said.
What I was initially looking for (yesterday) was a wikipedia entry in respect of the Nova Music Festival (which I’ve been meaning to do for several months but kept forgetting to do), and there WAS one of course, as I knew there surely would be. There’s much that I want to say in relation to it, but I’ll save THAT for another time, but here’s a link to it for the time being:
Re’im music festival massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re%27im_music_festival_massacre
JackIsrael kill Hezbollah successors and threat the lebanese people that they will face the same fate unless they overthrow Hezbollah. This madman is literally calling for genocide, once again, and the west just pretend it is raining!
Israel claims to have killed Hezbollah leader’s successors
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has urged the people of Lebanon to overthrow the armed group to avoid the fate of GazaThe Israeli military has killed the two top Hezbollah figures considered likely replacements for Hassan Nasrallah, who was taken out by an air strike in late September, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday.
In a video address to the Lebanese people published on social media, Netanyahu called on them to “free” their country from Hezbollah, accusing the armed group of plunging Lebanon into chaos and war by attacking Israel and “killing civilians without distinction.”https://swentr.site/news/605446-hezbollah-replacements-killed-netanyahu/
Allan HowardOh, right, and not only are we supposed to believe that Benny himself thinks the people of Lebanon can overthrow Hezbollah, but that he thinks WE – ie the population of Israel and everyone else on the planet – believe him that they can overthrow Hezbollah. The putrid malevolent malignant shit that comes out of his mouth from his demented sadistic lying fascistic psychopathic mass-murdering brain is never-ending. Oh, and if they DON’T you see, then Benny will just have to kill tens of thousands of them and maim tens of thousands more and bomb Lebanon back into the stone age.
I wonder if Biden and Blinken and the rest of the Mob – along with Starmer and Lammy et al – believe that they can, or suspect that Benny’s spouting complete and utter B/S. Or in fact KNOW that he’s spouting complete and utter B/S!
I can’t help thinking it’s the latter for some reason.
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