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  • #50284
    michael norton

      I hope you are correct SA.
      Turkey seems to want to get in deeper.

      “The Turkish Army has sent around 300 military vehicles to its observation points in the Syrian province of Idlib”
      https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202002181078342275-turkey-deploys-300-military-vehicles-to-idlib-amid-conflict-with-syria—reports/

      #50295
      michael norton

        Now Russia is getting concerned about the plans of Turkey, for Syria.
        https://www.rt.com/news/481183-russia-turkey-idlib-operation-worst-case/

        Turkey sending troops to Syria to fight against the government would be the ‘worst case scenario’, Kremlin spokesman said after Ankara threatened that such an operation was imminent.
        Turkey’s President Erdogan said on Wednesday Ankara was prepared to launch a military incursion into Idlib to force the Syrian army out. Russia’s reaction to such a development would depend on what goals the Turkish troops decide to pursue, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

        The only explanation, I can see for the imminent invasion of Syria by Turkey, is that Turkey wants to steal Northen Syria.

        #50298
        SA

          Michael
          It is difficult to say whether this is all a big bluff. Sending lots of troops is easy enough. But the remain with little air cover support. Turkish troops have now been bombed and several soldiers killed, twice with no retaliation and any serious retaliation may lead to Russian casualties and perhaps a military defeat for the Turks being invaders with longer U.K. era me supply lines unless the escalation is massive. b of the Moon of alabama It thinks it is bluff. The reaction from NATO has been lukewarm and tge economic fallout for Turkey in a major fallout with Moscow will be very serious.

          #50299
          michael norton

            Idleb is still under control of the al-Qaeda aligned Hayat Tahrir al Shams (HTS) which has continued to attack Syrian government positions, as well as civilian targets. HTS is internationally recognized as a terrorist organization, including by Turkey. But Turkey has done nothing to remove it. It instead provides the organization with weapons and other supplies.

            Turkey has all along operated in bad faith against Syria.
            Although Turkey complains at having so many Syrian people in Turkey, if they had not been one of the initiating aggressor parties, the outpouring of Syrian people, would not have happened.

            Perhaps we should look deeper for the real reasons for the Syrian “Civil” War?

            #50315
            michael norton

              Russia lets Turkey know, Russia has Turkey in its crosshairs.

              https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202002201078360646-russian-su-24-planes-strike-pro-turkish-terrorists-allowing-syrian-army-to-repel-attacks/
              According to the Russian Reconciliation Centre for Syria, pro-Turkish militants, with the support of the Turkish artillery, broke through the defences of the Syrian army in the areas of Qminas and Nayrab.

              Russian Su-24 aircraft have conducted airstrikes against pro-Turkish terrorists, which allowed the Syrian troops to repel all attacks successfully, the Russian Reconciliation Centre for Syria said in a statement. “The Syrian troops destroyed one tank, six infantry fighting vehicles and five pickup trucks containing large-calibre weapons”, the message said.
              The Centre also added that four Syrian servicemen were injured by Turkish artillery. The organisation went on to say that Turkey halted shelling against Syrian government troops as soon as Russia notified Ankara that it had detected the Turkish artillery fire.

              So, know Russia is prepared to go head to head with Turkey, in Syria.

              Next move U.S.A.

              #50368
              michael norton

                There is Coronaviris in Italy, Iran, Russia, Kuwait, Lebanon, Egypt, Israel, yet not in Turkey.
                This might be a big advantage for Assad, as Turkey will expect that Coronavirus is already in Syria.
                If Erdogan does follow through, with his planned invasion and war against Syria, he may be intelligent enough to understand that Coronavirus will be brought back to Turkey by fleeing Syrian civilians/terrorists and by contractors and by Turkish personnel.
                My guess is he will rapidly withdraw his people and seal the border, completely, with Syria and Iraq and Iran.

                #50370
                michael norton

                  Israel strikes Syria and Gaza, again.

                  PIJ said two fighters were killed in Syria and vowed to avenge their deaths.

                  Gaza’s health ministry reported that four Palestinians were wounded in the territory.

                  On Monday, another 14 rockets were fired at southern Israel
                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51608786
                  The hostilities escalated on Sunday morning, when the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it had killed a PIJ militant near Israel’s border fence with the Gaza Strip.

                  The IDF said troops identified two men attempting to plant an explosive device on the fence and opened fire at them.

                  A video shared widely on social media showed an Israeli bulldozer scooping up the body of the man, provoking anger among Palestinians.

                  #50372
                  SA

                    Shocking footageof Israelis killing a Palestinian and then dragging his body by a bulldozer. Such lack for human life and dignity is only seen in organisations such as Daesh.Indiffrnsible war crime.

                    #50373
                    SA

                      As if we did not already know

                      REVEALED: The British government’s covert propaganda campaign in Syria
                      Documents obtained by MEE reveal how British contractors recruited Syrian citizen journalists – often without their knowledge – to promote ‘moderate opposition’Drawing upon British, American and Canadian funding, UK government contractors set up offices in Istanbul and Amman, where they hired members of the Syrian diaspora, who in turn recruited citizen journalists inside Syria.
                      These journalists, many of them young, were commissioned to produce TV footage, radio programmes, social media, posters, magazines and even children’s comics.
                      While many Syrians turned spontaneously to media activism from the start of the war, the documents describe the way in which the British government sought to guide some of their output, seeing citizen journalism as a way of covertly influencing Syrian audiences.
                      The papers also make clear that those people who were recruited were often unaware that they were part of a British propaganda initiative.

                      From MEE

                      #50446
                      michael norton

                        Three Turkish soldiers killed as Syrian rebels regain key town
                        President Erdogan says developments in Idleb now in Ankara’s favour, as opposition regains northwestern town of Saraqeb.
                        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/turkish-soldiers-killed-syrian-rebels-regain-key-town-200227071603602.html
                        We have three martyrs, let them rest in peace. But on the other hand, the regime’s losses are very big,” he said in a speech from Ankara.

                        Syrian rebels fight to hold onto key northern town

                        “Our battle will continue.

                        Erdogan is brain-dead
                        he talks big but he is almost insignificant.
                        As the Coronavirus spreads around the middle East only a madman would seek to engauge in war.

                        #50455
                        michael norton

                          Things are hotting up in North West Syria/Turkey.

                          Turkish troops were acting inside “combat units” with jihadist militants in Idlib province when they were targeted by a Syrian government airstrike on Thursday, Russia’s Defense Ministry said.
                          The airstrike was carried out when the Syrian Army was repelling a large-scale offensive by terrorist group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), an offshoot of Al-Qaeda in Syria, inside the Idlib ‘de-escalation zone,’
                          the Russian military said on Friday.
                          https://www.rt.com/news/481873-syrian-troops-conduct-attacks-on/
                          thirty plus Turkish troops killed in one day, on Syrian soil.

                          #50479
                          SA

                            Erdogan seems to be acting as if he owns the region. He is invoking protection from NATO whilst being an aggressor and invader in Syria, he would like the support of Europe, whilst threatening to open the migrant gates to flood Europe, he buys weapons from Russia whilst asking for Patriot missiles. Is there no end to this man’s absurdity.
                            But the bottom line here is that Turkey was made a conduit for all the foreign fighters to go to Syria and these were armed by NATO and the west with money from KSA and the Gulf and with extreme logistic support from Turkey. Now that the tables have been turned there is no place for these terrorists to go. Certainly Erdogan does not want them to flood Turkey and neither does the EU. The answer according to Erdogan is to create a little statelet of terror in Idlib which will be a buffer between Turkey and the Kurds (mainly now used as an excuse).
                            But it seems so far that everyone is paying lip service to support Erdogan, who is by the way also suffering losses in his adventures in Libya, without offering actual logistic or military help. So far Putin has played an aggressive but cautious hand a the same time, in order to force terrorists out of Idlib.
                            Whilst the BBC is wringing its hands at the humanitarian catastrophe, no one mentions that this is due to support for terrorist of Al Qaeda in Syria. If these were not armed and forced to stop fighting, and maybe returned to face justice from where they came, the ‘humanitarian ‘problem is unlikely to resolve.

                            #50480
                            SA

                              Some items from around the world:
                              Sputnikreports that Erdogan wants Russia to get out of the way so he can deal with Syria directly!

                              Idlib Escalation Is Slowly Pushing Turkey Towards Open Conflict With Russia

                              From South FrontFrom South FrontFrom South Front
                              NATO can do nothing because Turkey was attacked in Syria. According to article 5, you can do nothing. From Elijah MagnierElijah MagnierElijah Magnier
                              And this is the statement from NATO offering moral support only.
                              And even the issue of the immigrants is causing a rift within NATO as Greece, in the front line of the refugee entrance to Europe, vetoes support for Turkey through NATO

                              #50481
                              michael norton

                                New York, SANA-Syria’s permanent representative to the UN, Dr. Bashar al-Jaafari, said on Thursday that some countries seek to turn Security council into a platform for NATO to support the Turkish aggression on Syrian territories, and this undermines the international organization’s role in keeping world peace and security.

                                Al-Jaafari added at a Security council’s session on the situation in the Middle East that the UN undersecretary general for humanitarian affairs violates his custody and tries to defame Syria through the misleading campaign he practices about the reality of situation in the country.

                                He went on to say that securing Aleppo city completely by the Syrian Arab army has given its citizens feeling of security as their city came out of the range of terrorism and spite shells.

                                Al-Jaafari affirmed that Syria calls on countries that have dominance on the Turkish regime and the affiliated terrorist organizations to oblige them to allow a million of Syrians, who were forced to flee the acts of Turkish aggression, to return home.
                                https://www.sana.sy/en/?p=186850

                                It seems to me that Erdogan has a way out of this mess he is in, in Northern Syria.
                                His saviour could be Coronavirs.
                                He could withdraw his troops/”contractors” from Idleb Province, using the grounds of preventing this disease from spreading North into Turkey.
                                Everyone knows that war and refugees spread disease.
                                Erdogan could then at last, seal his Southern border.
                                However his troops/”contractors” are spread all along the North of Syria, this would only work if he brings them all home quickly.

                                He has about five minutes to make a decision.
                                War and pestilence or peace and prosperity.
                                Turkey is truly at the crossroads of fortune.

                                #50487
                                michael norton

                                  Syrians claimed to have downed a Turkish aircraft.

                                  The Russian Air Force is back to launching heavy strikes over the Idlib Governorate, as their warplanes were reported to have carried out several attacks against the Turkish-backed militants and jihadists in the Jabal Al-Zawiya and Jisr Al-Shughour areas.

                                  According to a military source in northwestern Syria, the Russian Air Force has stepped up their strikes over the Idlib Governorate these past 12 hours, hitting several sites belonging to the Turkish-backed National Liberation Front (NLF) and their jihadist allies.

                                  Turkey are starting a full scale invasion of Northern Syria.
                                  This is war.

                                  #50491
                                  SA

                                    It is sad to see that the progress of the SAA with the help of RuAF has not only come to a halt but has been partially reversed. This is due to either Russia getting cold feet and possible threats of US and NATO retaliations, or to a genuine misreading of events, according to Elijah Magnier. In any case it now looks rather grim and to cap it all there is another uprising in Dara’a.

                                    #50505
                                    michael norton

                                      Russian Defense Ministry: “Safety of Turkish planes can’t be guaranteed over Syria”

                                      I think that is a slightly coded message, if you fly over Syria we will destroy you.
                                      https://sana.sy/en/?p=187131

                                      The Turks are bussing thousands of refugees to the border with Greece and helping them get through the wire into Europe.

                                      #50520
                                      SA

                                        The situation is fast moving and yesterday was a gloomy day. I wondered how Russia could let armed Turkish drones fly into Syria and upset the recent SAA gains and get away with it. But the Turkish gains are being reversed and who knows what goes on behind the scene.
                                        From the article you refer to above

                                        Russian Defense Ministry: Safety of Turkish planes can’t be guaranteed over Syria

                                        there can be two interpretations. One that we have let the Syrians activate their defence systems and the other one is that we (the Russians) will personally protect Syrian airspace.

                                        But laterally also, I see no proof yet of the efficacy of the S-300 or 400 in real action, nothing has been proven. On paper it is all supposed to be the best system but their has only been one plane shot over Syria recently, the Israeli F-16. I would have thought that therefore the efficacy remains to be proven and the |Russians have been rather slow to demonstrate this against real manned aeroplanes although there are reports of efficacy against missiles and drones. Any thoughts?

                                        #50521
                                        michael norton

                                          Today Israel announces that they now have ten Coronavis victims,
                                          Coronavirus also now in Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Greece, U.A.E., Oman, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Georgia, Armenia, Azerjabian, Russia but no cases yet in Turkey or Syria.
                                          It seems quite unbelievable that it is not in Turkey or Syria
                                          but as we know war and mass movements of people spreade disease.
                                          Erdogan must be almost brain-dead to continue with his campaign, as the World goes in to virtual lock-down over Coronavirus, does this president think Turkey is immune?
                                          Nobody is going to help Turkey, his economy will collapse and hopefully his hate-filled regime will implode, soon.

                                          #50534
                                          michael norton

                                            Erdogan has painted himself in to a corner.
                                            As Coronavirus rages around the World and possibly we enter a World Recession, evry country will have much more pressing concerns, than the trouble Erdogan finds himself in, in addition in 130 days there is a presidential election in Am,erica, which is Donald Trump’s to lose.
                                            Donald has been trying to extract America from Afghanistan and Syria, he really does not need a Middle East flare up, before the U.S.A. election. Trump is already pissed off with Erdogan, as is shown by the coup, that faile to remove Erdogan a couple of years ago.
                                            Trump has removed Turkey as a partner from the most expensive military programme, of all time, the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.
                                            Turkey has stopped America from using Incerlik, which was paid for by the Americans.
                                            Incirlik was probably built as a precursor to the Syrian “Civil” War.
                                            Turkey should not want to piss off Putin, too much, Turkstream will benefit Turkey as well as Russia.
                                            If Erdogan annoys Putin too much, he may cancel the S-400 Triumf for Turkey.

                                            The Turkish Economy is already on the ropes.
                                            There are two options for Erdogan, he can withdraw and possibly survive.
                                            Or he can cause war between Turkey and Syria, which will force Putin to choose.
                                            Putin may choose not to go deeper.
                                            If I were Erdogan I would choose the safer option of withdraw and survive.

                                            There will be more news coverage that Edogan’s troops are embedded with terrorists, he is training, supplying and encouraging them.
                                            They flow, to and froe across the border with Turkey.

                                            #50536
                                            michael norton

                                              Washington, US Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has affirmed that the Turkish regime headed by Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been supporting Daesh (ISIS) and al-Qaeda from behind the scenes for long years, and now it has been forced to show this role which it has played against the Syrian Government from years ago.

                                              In a video published on her account on Twitter, Gabbard indicated that Erdogan is the most dangerous dictator in the world, and he is not a friend for the U.S.

                                              Gabbard noted that Erdogan wants to restore the Ottoman empire and he is working with al-Qaeda and other terrorist organization to achieve that goal.

                                              Virtually all the war material that has been used against Syrian, came via Turkey, although others might have financed this war. Virtually all the terrorists entered Syria via Turkey.
                                              Most of the terrorists were not Syrian.

                                              #50548
                                              michael norton

                                                Donald Trump backs Greece to do all it can to seal its border with Turkey.

                                                Concerning the decision to stop accepting asylum applications, the government repeated that Greece was faced with an “active, serious, exceptional and asymmetric threat,” that appeared to be orchestrated by Turkey, with gathered individuals attempting to forcibly and illegally enter Greek territory.

                                                https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/03/03/usa-backs-greeces-constitution-obligation-to-protect-its-borders/

                                                #50571
                                                michael norton

                                                  Turkish officials have said a man was fatally wounded when Greek security forces opened fire as migrants gathered at the border on Wednesday.

                                                  Greece immediately issued a flat denial, saying it was not involved in any such incident involving gunfire.

                                                  Thousands of people have headed to the border after Turkey said it would no longer stop migrants crossing.

                                                  Greece has also denied claims that two Syrians were fatally shot while trying to cross the border last night.
                                                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51735715

                                                  It might help if Turkey was not forcibly bussing migrants to the Greek border and enabling them to cut through the wire.

                                                  Athens claims Turkish police are firing tear gas “to help migrants cross border”

                                                  #50572
                                                  michael norton

                                                    Damascus, SANA- Syria stressed that US officials’ illegitimate infiltration into the Syrian territories in Idleb devotes the truth that the US administration considers itself to be above international law and UN charters.

                                                    An official source at the Foreign and Expatriates Ministry told SANA Wednesday that the illegitimate infiltration of a number of US officials into the Syrian territories in Idleb province is but a dedication of the fact that the US administration considers itself to be above the international law and the UN charters which emphasize the respect of states’ sovereignty and non-interference in their affairs.

                                                    The source added that this US move which has been made in collusion with the Turkish regime uncovers and reaffirms the devastating role of the US in supporting the Turkish aggression and complicating the situation in Syria, as well as the US efforts to cover the crimes of the terrorist groups and to prevent their complete elimination after the field victories which have been achieved by the Syrian Arab Army.

                                                    The source went on to say that the Syrian Arab Republic denounces and condemns in the strongest terms the behavior of thievery and banditry of the US administration and the Turkish regime, asserting that it isn’t surprised by the infiltration of the US officials this way after they have offered all kinds of support to the terrorist groups, including transporting them into Syria in a flagrant violation of all UN resolutions related to combating terrorism.

                                                    It is a very good question, why does the United States of America continue to involve itself in Syria, on the ground?
                                                    There is some devilish doings between Turkey and U.S.A. and Israel to do their utmost to destroy Syria as a functioning country.

                                                    Yet the United Nations barely notices?

                                                    #50591
                                                    michael norton

                                                      Two civilian airplanes bound for Qatar were reportedly used as cover by Israeli jets,
                                                      launching missiles from Lebanese airspace,
                                                      against targets near the Syrian cities of Homs and Quneitra.

                                                      Syrian air defenses engaged incoming missiles shortly after midnight local time on Thursday, both near Homs in central Syria and Quneitra in the south, on the armistice line with the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.
                                                      Following the attack, reports appeared that at least two flights – one passenger, one cargo – had to change course to avoid getting struck by air defense missiles.

                                                      Once again despicable Israeli tactics, war crimes, again.

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