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@ ET: I’m afraid you are mistaken, if you consider the available evidence.
The carrying capacity of the planet (without the FF bounty) was always around or below one billion people and when the oil and gas run out later this century the capacity will be much reduced as we will have exhausted many other of the planet’s natural resources and destroyed most of the ecosystems we depend on to support life. The longer we try to maintain the global population at this level, the greater the damage to the planet and the less chance our descendants have of avoiding extinction.
These are a couple of links that you may find helpful.
1. Megan Seibert & Bill Rees: Through the Eye of a Needle. 4.2 Population Reduction
2. Albert Bartlett: Exponential growth, population & energy
https://youtu.be/kZA9Hnp3aV4?si=Vhd3bCWnasHKWFKu
3. Tom Murphy: DotheMath blog. Metastatic Modernity Video Series:
https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/metastatic-modernity-video-series/
One more:
Bill Mitchell: We are 1.7 times over regenerative capacity and the world’s population must be reduced.
Michael, April 2, 23:50
– “Clark, let us give this a bit of brain work.”
Yes, brainwork; that was what I was trying to talk to you about, but you again, and as predicted, changed the subject. More brainwork than you or I could ever hope to clock up has already been done, and it is in public, in the scientific literature.
Why do you dismiss all this brainwork, ignore it, and present your own as superior? Do you also reinvent the wheel from first principles every time you plan to use your van?
I can just see you now Michael, in the drivers seat of your van giving the orders and explaining how much you know, the wheelless van body perched upon logs, and the rest of your family pushing it along and hauling the log most recently exposed at the back around to the front ready for the next few paces. Let’s go fishing!
ET, yes fascinating “new” stuff.
It would seem you can not have complex life, without Oxygen.
Complex life seems to be living in the two metre deep Oxygen zone around the Polymetallic nodules.
Some have postulated that complex life evolved around deep sea vents.
maybe, it was a coinsiding of both environments/
A huge Polymetallic Field, with deep Hydrothermal vents?Michael, it’s not new but newly discovered by humans. It’s been doing its thing for millions of years, if not hundreds of millions of years.
I’d say you can’t have complex (chemistry-based) life without a mechanism for transferring chemical energy.
Every argument you make against climate science is based on economics. When will you make a science-based argument?Clark, this evening I was having dinner with my eight year old granddaughter, we were discussing photosynthesis and gas exchanges in plants, they are teaching this stuff, today in primary schools.
Clark, almost nobody is still interested in Global Warming extinction.
There are wars going on in Palestine/Yemen/Ukraine/Burma/Sudan/Ethiopia and probably other places.
Most people want electricity, they want heat and fresh water and a sewage system and education for their children.
They really are not interested in people pontificating about the End of the World because of too much Carbon dioxide.
You are not winning this argument. You may assume that people who do not hold to the authodoxy of Global WEarming are stupid, ignorant twats.
You may be correct but you will not win those people, meaning 99% of the people of the world, over to your viewpoint.
They mostly do not care . They are not convinced the world will be ending, anytime soon.
You need to up your game.
Frighten the living shit out of them.Make them think in the next few years they will burn alive, if they do not believe.
