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Yes, in the new battery world of transportation and battery-storage, we are going to need a different fire service.
Most likely with more boots on the ground but also a long period of intense scientific training and advanced techniques – perfected.
I think the scary part is going to be two million on street E.V. chargers, who will be the maintenance people?
Round my way the council barely collect rubbish, also barely cut the hedges back from the roads, they claim they do not have money.
It will be the Halloween budget, soon, she will need to stump up a lot of money for the fire brigades.It seems that so few, new people are purchasing E.V. cars that factories are shutting in Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EbkhYFYxMw
China has, maybe, a million E.V. cars, rotting in fields, they can’t sell them.
If this is the future, it does not seem to be panning out as the Elite wanted?So I have a question for Clark.
If the people of Europe can’t be convinced to go for a Carbon Neutral existence, what do the Elite do next?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO5geG3wg5M
VW to close at least three car plants in Germany.If we in the U.K. are to quickly move to a Non-Carbon-Future, where everything imaginable is powered by electricity produced cleanly, we are going to need a phenomenal quantity of processed Copper. As far as I know, we no longer mine Copper in the British Isles.
So this phenomenal quantity of Copper, will be blasted out of the rock, causing Carbon to be released and rejoin its mates in the atmosphere. Probably this new Copper will come from South America or Southern Africa or Indonesia or Australia. This process will most likely use Methane to power much of the machinery for crushing, floating , grading. Diesel powered trucks will be used to move the ores.
this will then need to be transported to a plant that will convert the ore into Copper sheet, or bar, this will also use a lot of energy. Lets hope much of this energy will be clean electricity.
Next problem, the new U.K. Administration have claimed they will build 1,500,000 homes, all electric.
I wonder where the plastic will be produced that insulates the Copper wires?
Do we think this plastic will come from Methane or Oil?
The N.H.S. currently uses a lot of “one use stuff” that is made from Methane or Oil.What is the Labour answer to this conundrum?
I actually had a go at tapping a rubber tree, in Malaya, forty-fifty years ago.
It takes between five and ten years before a rubber plantation is viable for rubber production.Intercropping young rubber trees with bananas can increase growth and yield, and reduce the length of the unproductive phase.
Intercropping is stunningly important for our future.
If we are to move away from Methane and oil, we will need to plant much rubber.
i would consider, replanting rubber, as a good move.Check this out
Critical Mineral Recovery,
Junction City, Fredericktown, Missouri.Massive fire at one of the world’s largest and most sophisticated E.V. battery recycling places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clFMazztSA8Ed Milliband’s dream to cost a fortune
“require an average of £40bn in investment a year”
New routes of (1,000 K. of lines) pylons to go up within the next few years, to meet Carbon Zero, by 2030?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c207113jz73o
It is going to be a very speedy roll out.“What is the Labour answer to this conundrum” asks Michael Norton.
Their answer is Ed Miliband. Be afraid…_
Ravioli-Shaped Objects:
Oh wow. It turns out the UK eventually dug up and burned three inches of itself!
Fredricktown, Critical Mineral Recovery – fire -update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bas81OsV9Y
Lithium ion battery recovery plant, most likely will have to be completely demolished.
Dead fish in the river.The sun finally came out yesterday, it had not been seen for almost a fortnight.
There also has been no wind for a fortnight. It also has not rained for a fortnight.
So even, if we had, had fifty percent more hydroelectric, fifty percent more solar and fifty percent more wind turbines, it would barely had helped. They have no shut down our last coal fired electricity production facility.
They want to reduce the base load of electricity produced by North Sea Gas.
How will our electricity system function without base load/back up?If the blades on turbines are not realistically able to be recycled and if the maximum life of a wind turbine is twenty five years, where will they put the used blades?
If the maximum life of a solar farm is twenty years, other than the metal frames, nothing else is recycled, where will they put the solar residue?
Where will our nuclear fuel waste be deposited?Remember renewable electricity is not actually renewable, every few years the plant needs replacing, this will have to go on, all the time humanity has civilisation.
We will need deep pockets and very deep holes to bury this stuff.
We will also need a much bigger fire brigade to deal with the E.V. related fires.
As the grid is expected to grow by 400%, as we come to almost entirely be reliant of clean electricity, these problems
will be profound.Renewable – sustainable
maybe, what we should be concentrating on, is sustainable energy?
Pick a system – then see if you could sustain it over the next one thousand years, blink of an eye, in the timeline of human existence.Imagine, you think nuclear power is the way to go.
Let’s guess a nuclear power station could last for fifty years.
In one thousand years, that station would be replaced about twenty times.
Each time, it takes one hundred years for the site to be fully wound down.
So, one unit of nuclear power would need twenty sites, over the course of one thousand years.
This is putting to one side the spent nuclear fuel, that needs to be dealt with.
The concrete from a dismantled nuclear site cannot be reprocessed, it would have to be dumped at sea, or dumped down a coal shaft or something.
So, I ask, is this system of producing electricity sustainable over one thousand years?The equivalent of 11% of produced electricity, in Australia, is used just to perform comminution.
Meaning that a huge amount of Australia’s power is used to break rock for mineral extraction.
Multiples of Copper extraction will be needed in the Brave New World.
Much power will be required to turn that rock into usable Copper products.The plummet in E.V. demand,
with its data showing that new car registrations in the United Kingdom remain a fifth lower than pre-Covid.
The Labour Government are not going to budge an inch, they would rather see the car firms go to the wall than allow more IC cars to be made or sold in Britain.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6je5w7n3yo
They have shut the Coal mines, they have shut the Coal fired electricity stations, we are now importing record amounts of electricity, we can’t keep up with demand with our Wind and Solar facilities, this imbalance will get worse.
They have shut the South Wales Steel mills, they are shutting the Scottish refinery.
This country will be a waste land, soon.
At least we will have lower CO2 than any other country on EarthStellantis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis
As of 2023, Stellantis was the world’s fourth-largest automaker by sales, in the world.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWbkteB3mNM
Stellantis have been in talks with the U.K. government, about battery cars.
They are in panic mode, most car manufacturers are.
The E.V. mandates are killing the new car market.
Ordinary people do not want to buy them.
Within a year, they can be worth 1/2 the purchase price – or less.Ford to cut 800 U.K. jobs as electric car sales nosedive.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20626dy9d6o
Quote BBC
“The company said it had to act because of difficult trading conditions, including intense competition and weak demand for electric vehicles.”there you have it.
Weak demand for the mandated Electric Vehicles.
Over to Ed Milliband.Michael, a cursory search for UK EV sales figures will show you that sales are up on the same period last year and that EVs are taking an increasing share of the used car market. EVs are second only to petrol ICE cars.
The stats point to the increase in EV sales being fleet based with a decrease in private buyer sales but overall EVs sales are an increasing proportion of car sales.You might want to revise you figures. Perhaps it’s Ford that has the problem with its poor offering.
ET you are partially correct.
Yes, mandated E.V. sales are up. however , that is mainly by firms.
Councils are very keen to purchase E.V. because they can then point to their green idials.
My point is that ordinary people, punters, are not buying E.V.https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/
Private car sales are down over last year’s figures for all catagories. I suspect that reflects people’s finances rather than a preference bias against electric vehicles. However, (for all car sales not just private) BEV, PHEV and HEV sales are all up on last year’s figures whilst petrol and diesel sales are down.
Have you not noticed just walking about that more and more cars you see are electric? Most people prefer their EV’s to ICE cars. They are cleaner, quieter and cheaper to run. That’s not to say that people are happy with the current charging network.
If you can charge your car at home overnight and most of your driving is commute, (which for most people, it is) then EV’s make sense. Like it or not, the trend is increasingly towards EV’s and that is going to continue. It may not be the traditional marques selling them.most of my friends/acquaintances are quite well off, none of them have E.V., none of them have suggested they are considering getting an E.V.
One of my best friends was thinking of getting an almost new Diesel Rangerover, till he found out under the Rachel budget, this type of car will cost three and a half thousand pounds a years
for car tax.
It is not an even field, the evil government are trying top get the public to adopt E.V. against their wishes.
You see, they think they know best
but what is happening in U.K. and Europe is that the car manufactures are imploding.
Punters, who may have bought a new car, say every 7-12 years, are deciding to keep their present car and fuck the Labour Government and their Stalinist views.If people want an E.V. it should be their choice.
It should not be Ed Milliband’s choice.
Punters are voting with their feet by not buying new cars.Horses are good, Michael. Relatively cheap to buy and run compared to cars; no polluting exhaust and if looked after, give three decades of service. Nice views, very comfy and you don’t have the mother-in-law moaning at you from the back seat. Dump the car – buy a nag.
MN: “If people want an E.V. it should be their choice.”
Here’s news for you, chief – people do have that choice. And it seems the choice of an increasing number of people is to have an EV. I see a greater proportion of people using them all the time, and see more EV charging points being installed on a daily basis. Installing them is good business these days, you know.
With all this nonsense about Ed Milliband, “the people” supposedly all outraged at Labour, distractions and irrelevancies being thrown in as arguments against action against climate change etc. etc., I have to wonder – are you still getting most of your news/talking points from The Express?
Michael, I had a used and old 3 litre S class in Ireland I kept there for when I visited my ailing mum 6 to 8 times a year. I also had my main vehicle in the UK. In 2012 ISH the yearly tax was 3600 euro. A similar car would be 5-6k now for yearly tax. Cars in Ireland were always taxed on cc capacity (latterly emissions) and anything above a 2 litre attracted a whopping tax. That was before EVs were a thing. You Brits ( and me too as I lived in UK) got away with low road fund tax for years. Everyone else paid on the basis of engine size and the bigger the engine capacity the more you got penalised.
Like it or lump it government the world over are adopting policies to remove ICE cars and the pollution they bring, especially big engines gas guzzling cars.
