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    John Pretty

      Thank you again Martin. I refer to your quotation:

      “But why not kill them both in hospital? This would have strengthened the novichok claim.”

      If Yulia was the poisoner then she could not have tried again even if she wanted to until she had recovered sufficiently.

      However, she may have changed her mind or may be being actively prevented from attempting again by those who are currently holding her.

      Of course, we do not actually know if Sergei Skripal is still alive and Yulia have only been seen once since the poisoning in the famous interview she had after she had recovered.

      #49761 Reply
      czarnyrobert

        For me the most suspicious part of the puzzle is the lack of surveillance of Skripal house. UK government placed over half a million cameras in London, on every street corner, everywhere, but did they forgot to put a camera next to Skrypal home entrance ? Even if they did, if I was in his place, I would do it on my own. So I don’t belie that there was no video-surveillance, just that they can’t release it, because it would shown that the alleged :”Russian agents” never approached the house to put the poison on door handle.
        Another story how such poison could start acting after several hours, but exactly in the same time in both of them?
        How both get in contact with poison on handle? Could both touch the handle when going out and closing door? Does not make sense.
        It was a set-up to frame Russia, but by whom? Israel, Ukraine, UK?
        Timing (two weeks ahead of Russian presidential elections, 3 month before World Cup) would suggest that someone who orchestrated this wanted to harm Putin / Russia. Israel motive – Russia military support for Assad in Syria. Ukraine motive – Russia support for rebels in Donbas. UK/USA – maybe they have discovered a network of Russian diplomat-spies but could not present any evidence and just wanted to get rid of them as soon as possible and needed a motive for expulsion.

        Julia suicide theory not impossible, but not very appealing for me. Why do it in public?

        #49762 Reply
        czarnyrobert

          Poisoning of both father and daughter would make sense to have a better effect in media on public opinion to make Putin/Russia look bad. If just one old ex spy is poisoned, then people won’t care so much, but if a young woman is also poisoned with him, then he is no longer regarded as ex-spy, traitor, but as father and daughter – family tragedy. The public outcry should be stronger in such case. It was not strong enough, so we got next story with poisoned British couple, right in the middle of Russia World Cup.

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          Robert

            It does look as though there was an intention that everything be visible, and to look like a state-sponsored murder (or murder attempt). Even the “two stoopges” behaved so as to draw attention to themselves.

            If the intention was simply death, it could have been done quietly – hit-and-run car, burglary gone wrong, simple disappearance.

            A message was being sent to someone.

            #100959 Reply
            AG

              John Helmer on Lord Hughes´s ruling from Sept. 23rd 2024
              It´s fun to read as always but I am not sure I get it all. Are these people alive or not? And what on earth DID happen?
              https://johnhelmer.org/the-end-of-the-skripals/#more-71532

              #100987 Reply
              Allan Howard

                Why would Yulia think to coat the door handle with novichok?

                #100990 Reply
                AG

                  I assume it was Halloween and she mixed up the novichok with the toothpaste when coating that door handle for a Halloween “trick”.

                  #101451 Reply
                  Fortnite

                    John Pretty, I just came across your theory of 2019 after finding this forum while following up on the Dawn Sturgess inquiry. Here are my thoughts about your theory.

                    Your central claim is that Yulia poisoned Sergei due to him bringing shame on their family. I do not find this plausible. I’m not aware of any reports of Yulia or the family being upset or disappointed with Sergei. In fact, there appears to be much evidence that Sergei and Yulia maintained regular contact which seemed quite warm. You really need to have some evidence for this quite unusual motive.

                    You claim “To me it makes no sense at all that a third party would carry out an assassination attempt on Sergei Skripal’s life while Yulia was visiting him”. I think it makes perfect sence to carry out a poisoning of both of them at the same time. Kill two birds with one stone, as they say. If the reason pf using a nerve agent was to make the killing horrific for the victims, then by poisoning two at once rises the chance that one or other victims, and likely both, would have to witness seeing the other eventually subcumb to the horrible effects. Also, if their assisination was indeed a reverge attack, then it is quite plausible that the intention is to target the entire family.

                    You say that a tracheostomy is not consistent with nerve agent poisoning. I disaagree. A tracheostomy is often given when a patient has difficulty breathing due to the lungs and/or trachea are producing a problematic amount of fluid. Nerve agents are known to induce production of body fluids, so I can well imagine that a nerve agent victin might require a tracheostomy. Evidence given by medical professionals at the Dawn Sturgess inquiry state this.

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