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R-zero also affects the herd immunity threshold. For the old variant it was about 70% of the population. For this new, more infectious variant, it’s 90%.
But at least it solves Node’s problem. With infectiousness that high, everyone who doesn’t get vaccinated will get covid eventually, so there would be little point in the castigation he fears.
On Dec 30 Essex NHS declared a major incident, with all hospitals in mid and south at “OPEL 4” – Operating Pressures Escalation Level 4, the highest they can declare, “All actions have failed to contain service pressures and the local health system is unable to deliver comprehensive emergency care”.
In London, Physician Associates sent out a message to medical students requesting help cover critical sessions in London hospitals, preferably ITU experience.
On Dec 31, Royal London Hospital e-mail from management – “We are now in disaster medicine mode. We are no longer providing high standard critical care because we cannot”.
Today, Kent hospitals ICU bed occupancy reached 137%. “There are people on the wards that ideally we would like in intensive care but we don’t have the capacity”.
Case numbers are climbing faster than ever, so this is set to get much worse.
To anyone telling me all these are faked, part of my definition of conspiracy theories is that they inevitably require more and more conspirators. A worker at a Hull hospital attracted Steph’s suspicion some weeks back for seeing too many bodies at a morgue, and NHS managers in Northern Ireland were implicitly accused by Node a few days ago. The theory now needs co-conspirators in Essex, at multiple hospitals in London, and in Kent, and presumably in countless other places I haven’t happened to hear about. And that’s just in England.
“Yes, I may have been mistaken” – go on, try saying it. Unburden yourselves; you might even come to enjoy it.
There was a piece in the Guardian today written by a junior doctor. I think people should read it and especially those with the died with not from syndrome.
“Patients are dying ‘with’ Covid, not ‘of’ it.” The death certificate data from the Office for National Statistics, which provides us with the most reliable figures on Covid deaths, records causation. But even more obvious is what a patient with Covid pneumonia looks like clinically. They have very low oxygen levels, a dense white shadow in both lungs on their X-rays, a particular pattern of low platelets and specific white blood cells, and very high marker of clotting called D-Dimer. This is a clinical pattern doctors all over the world have seen time and time again. Trust us, they are dying of this disease.”
That is almost pathognomic.
Argue all you like about the response to the problem but please stop arguing that it is trivial.From the Guardian article linked by ET:
– “And, the worst myth of all: “Covid only kills the infirm and the elderly.” While age is a significant factor, we are routinely seeing patients in their 30s and 40s on ICU. Data from Scotland shows the average age of admitted ICU patients is 61, and more than 85% were living completely independent lives before they were sick. It could be any of us, or someone close to us”.
But something we never get from conspiracy theorists is retraction. They just go quiet, so that they can resurrect their zombie factoids when they think there’s another opportunity.
Conspiracy theorists, you seem to think you’re on a vital mission to wake up the sheeple, but your narratives serve the establishment you believe you have seen through. Your denial of global heating serves vested interests in the fossil fuel and dependent industries. Your Twin Tower demolition theory is widely seen as anti-Semitic because it is, and by insinuating and bullying it into the anti-war and pro-Palestinian movements you have provided false justification to the smears against Jeremy Corbyn, whilst providing cover for the neocon exploitation of jihadism.
Your latest one, covid-19, is the most obvious; neoliberalism and corporatism want us all out shopping and working to keep the profit flowing, not sheltering from a deadly virus, and low and behold, there you all are pushing exactly that message, albeit for completely different reasons. So I echo back your own favourite message; wake up!
You may have not noticed but the lockdowns are favouring the billionaires not small businesses and should the conveniently timed mutant virus, to prolong the ban on political protests be called COVID-20?
Dave
Nobody here denies that the government has badly handled the pandemic, made some of their cronies better and that the rich have flouted lockdown rules but that does not mean that the virus is not dangerous.“but that does not mean that the virus is not dangerous”.
The point for many, is not whether its dangerous, and lets for the sake of argument agree it is, but whether the response is either sensible, proportionate or entirely counter-productive and the communist restrictions are being used to serve a political agenda, which normally lies behind government policy.
I can’t see anything convenient about the new variant, unless you happen to enjoy your own and everyone else’s lives and health being at risk from viral infection. Everything economic moves money to billionaires; that’s almost the definition of neoliberalism. It doesn’t matter what goes wrong, putting it right costs money, a proportion of which always flows to those who already have most, so the bigger the disaster, the more they make. That’s why it’s called “disaster capitalism”. Read the synopsis:
The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism – Naomi Klein, 2007:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine
And yes, it’s already being called covid-20.
Dave, how about broadening the perspective? Take a look at New Zealand’s response and tell me whet you think of that.
The irony of what David thinks is a communist takeover through botched lockdown is that communist China has done very well with a proper lockdown, whilst the neoliberal west is doing extremely badly with a botched pseudo lockdown.
“And, the worst myth of all: “Covid only kills the infirm and the elderly.”
That myth blows quite a hole in the Great Barrington Declaration, doesn’t it?
https://twitter.com/rupert_pearse/status/1345301202184110080?s=20
Some ICUs in Kent and London are beyond capacity, with critically ill patients being transported long distances to hospitals in other regions. In some cases patients are being treated in resus or postop wards, with intensive nursing but substandard monitoring devices. It’s chaotic and very stressful for the staff. Here’s a glimpse:
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Fong/status/1344733089067659266?s=20
I can testify that ICU is a draining experience under normal circumstances. More people die in critical care units than any other ward, and it’s agonising to watch intubated patients gasping for every breath. I have immense admiration for the staff in the thick of it now. The flip side is contempt for those who deny the ongoing crisis, but such negative attitudes are best set aside as there are more urgent issues at hand.
And you say the video proves the hospitals are full? The ONS provide big picture statistics which is more reliable than anecdotal snapshots, particularly the one used.
New Zealand as a loyal ally of the deep state, put in travel restrictions almost before COVID-19 was officially known about, but any delay in the spread of a virus, (the initial UK spin was to flatten the curve) ends once the restrictions are lifted, even if they work anyway.
New Zealand had no infections, and then declared the restrictions had worked! But again your just scaremongering, because the best solution to any virus is build the immune system and therapeutics (and there’s no excuse now as highlighted by Trumps recovery), but your assignment is to continue to push expensive medication with side effects on behalf of the drug cartels.
There are always a range of interests behind government policy. I know some promote the Great Reset, and this crisis is clearly playing to that songbook, a mass transfer of wealth to the 1% under guise of keeping people safe. SA concedes he wants communist tyranny to solve the problem, and the western deep state are communists aka rule by the few in the name of the many.
However I think the many billions being given to the private medical profession is payoff to those providing a smokescreen/distraction from the heist and coup against democracy.
The reason is to suppress populism of left and right which is viewed as a peasants revolt against the ruling class, a revolt that may, the deep state fear, get round to asking “who controls the money”. Imperial deep state rules by pitching left against right, black against white and now uses gender politics for the same purpose and uses the virus to ban democracy aka the revolt.
However I think the main aim is to topple Trump, using the virus to steal the election, by illegally changing election rules, under guise of an emergency, with political meetings banned, despite a landslide win for Trump. But Trump’s fighting back, and so instead of the lockdowns/crisis ending with Trump conceding the election in November, a mutant virus is, by coincidence, being promoted to extend the ‘crisis’ beyond January with a rerun of virus-terrorism.
Dave wrote – “…there’s no excuse now as highlighted by Trumps recovery, but your assignment is to continue to push expensive medication with side effects on behalf of the drug cartels”
Trump was treated with monoclonal antibodies extracted from genetically engineered mice.
(1) Such treatment must be hugely expensive, I would guess thousands of times more expensive than the $3-per-patient AstraZeneca vaccine.
(2) Such treatment must surely be very difficult to scale; how many mice did it take to treat Trump, so how many would it take to treat the hundreds of millions who will eventually get ill? And it would be far more expensive to treat everyone who gets ill than to prevent them getting ill in the first place.
Dave also wrote: “but your assignment is…”
Seriously Dave? Are you saying that I’m some sort of agent? Previously you’ve “accused” me of being a Jew; are you some sort of fascist eg. a Nazi? And who else? Do you think SA, ET and Dredd are all agents too? Please answer these questions.
Really, productive discussion is impossible unless it has some grounding in reality.
Dave, I was a moderator at this site for years, and I’m a friend of Craig Murray’s:
Craig’s post “It’s Only Words“:
– “I am standing because this is what democracy looks like, as my friend Clark reminded me.”
I was on the crew for two of Nadira’s films, and I’m on the crew of both festivals Craig works with.
Maybe the problem is that you are on the wrong site? You’d be more at home on the Daily Mail ?
Dave
“New Zealand as a loyal ally of the deep state, put in travel restrictions almost before COVID-19 was officially known about, but any delay in the spread of a virus, (the initial UK spin was to flatten the curve) ends once the restrictions are lifted, even if they work anyway.”
New Zealand is a classic case of how to successfully deal with a pandemic: act decisively and early. Here is a good account of what happened. You say that they acted before Covid-19 was officially known but that is not true. It was well known that there was a dangerous new virus in Wuhan in January and the WHO declared a Pandemic, a bit late I would say in mid March. Closing the borders and isolation of travelers proved to be very effective and can be done at the outset of the pandemic but is less successful later. Here is what I wrote back on the 12th March 2020 when it became clear that the Pandemic was inevitably going to go full swing and the government chose to procrastinate.
The problem is that Johnson and other neoliberal right wing dominated countries, chose to ‘flatten the curve’ rather than adopt a more radical approach. By May, over 18 million travelers, including from areas with high SARS cov2 transmission entered the country without any attempt at isolation or reducing the number of travelers. Even when it was clear that countries like Italy and Spain, with high rates of transmission, were affected, there were no travel restrictions until the damage was done.
Dave
What a great giveaway: Reds under the beds, they are everywhere these commies, must get rid of them and flush them out, McCarthy was right, bring back the witch hunts.“SA concedes he wants communist tyranny to solve the problem, and the western deep state are communists aka rule by the few in the name of the many.”
I haver never written such nonsense, I have talked about socialism and I have described communist China’s success at combatting the virus. And what fantasy is this that the ‘deep state’ is full of these communists who act on the principle of subjugating the masses for the benefit of the extremely rich. Dave are you really that naïve? Come on please get back in touch with reality, we are trying to discuss serious matters here not tittle tattle.
I find your explanation of Trump’s treatment far-fetched, but there are therapeutics available, as normally there always are, but they’re downplayed to prolong the ‘crisis’. I never called you a Jew, I asked if you were anti-Semitic, which you refused to answer, albeit I do you think you are religious, hence your 9/11 Act of God aka spontaneous combustion due to shock theory/theology.
The chief inspector at Ofsted, the British kingdom’s organisation for “inspecting” its state schools – but not the private ones where the ruling class sends its own children, which they don’t allow to be intruded upon by bureaucratic servants of the “public good” – says that not going to school during a supposed pandemic “<b>puts children’s lives on hold</b>”.
You what?? It’s as if she doesn’t recognise that “pleb” children are born into and grow inside of families.
Can you see how the fascism that has reigned in Britain since March 2020 is getting more intense, itching to enter its next stage?
For this scumbag, children only EXIST when they are being regimented, indoctrinated, shunted around like objects, and it doesn’t matter how many people have to die in the service of this “truth”. She’s basically saying children MIGHT AS WELL BE DEAD IF THEY’RE NOT AT SCHOOL.
Similar attitudes are straining at the leash among other kinds of administrators too, as the police for example are having an absolute field day as they break up all kinds of public gatherings and rob people by dishing out “penalties” without any kind of judicial process.
Meanwhile fascism across the English Channel is also advancing, as president Emmanuel Macron is seeking to tear up the constitution and abolish the right to home educate, making school attendance compulsory in France for the first time ever.
During coronafascism so far the rulers have already changed how large numbers of people view their parents (including when they are ill, dying, or after they have died), their siblings, and their young adult children. Next in line is the way people view their children of minority age. It could soon be a case of WHAM BAM YOUR CHILDREN ARE LOCKED UP IN SCHOOL 24/7 FOR PUBLIC HYGIENE (OR FOOD SHORTAGE) REASONS AND NEITHER THE LOCAL COUNCIL NOR THE ARMY WILL BROOK ANY DISSENT ABOUT IT. Wait and see. What do you think the whole Marcus Rashford business was about? If the government wants to feed working class children during school vacations, let them give money or food to working class families. They’ve got a list of children who receive free school meals during term time, their home addresses, and their parents’ names. (Tesco can probably give them much more information too, for a “consideration”.) By all means send out some cheques or vouchers. Or how about doubling welfare payments? But no. They won’t do any of these things. They want to break working class families. They want a normal meal for children to be like a meal on a prison wing guarded by soldiers. They want children to forget who their mothers and fathers are.
Amanda Spielman, by the way, “Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector”, is married to the managing director of Citigroup, one of the largest banks in the world.
Her Wikipedia entry says she “read” Mathematics and Law (capital letters in the original) at Cambridge, graduating with a BA. The casual reader will infer that she was awarded joint honours. Well she wasn’t. Cambridge doesn’t award joint honours in that kind of combination and it never has. I’d be interested to know what she got her degree in. Did she even get it at Cambridge or did she drop out? Just because someone went to Cambridge doesn’t mean they got a degree there.
Well well well. What is allowed to be inferred by the Wikipedia entry is in fact stated by the BBC:
“Amanda Spielman, born in 1961, left Clare College Cambridge in 1982 with an upper-second-class degree in mathematics and law.“
This statement is FALSE. Cambridge does NOT AWARD degrees in “mathematics and law”.
You are clearly very intelligent and I’m sure you are helpful to Craig in many ways, and act as a gatekeeper on subjects Craig doesn’t mind discussing, but can’t really be associated with, for understandable reasons, as he has enough on his plate already.
I find this blog very informative and you provide a masterclass in slippery, but the Daily Mail is also very informative too, if only because it has a mass middle-class readership, which wouldn’t last if it only carried the inane official narrative.
Another piece from The Guardian with testimony from docs and nurses.
“Oxygen for patients has already been limited because the hospital’s supply system was approaching the point where it would shut down. “We have the oxygen to give everybody, but we don’t have the delivery system. The system would crash if too many people were sucking in oxygen in a high concentration,”
That struck me. There is enough oxygen in the storage tanks but with so many needing high concentration oxygen the in-built delivery systems, those outlets above every bed, are insufficient for that many patients. I guess every hospital’s oxygen delivery system has a finite number of patients it can deliver it to before it goes beyond it’s operating parameters. I have never seen that happen nor heard of it happening.
The nurse in this piece has elsewhere being criticised by paediatric doctors for overstating the paediatric problem so it is hard to be sure of what that situation is, for now.
Dave – “I find your explanation of Trump’s treatment far-fetched…”
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+treated+with+mouse+antibodies
– “You […] act as a gatekeeper on subjects Craig doesn’t mind discussing, but can’t really be associated with, for understandable reasons”
That implies that Craig has had communication from the conspiracy you allege exists, that he knows what they insist be censored, and that he complies. It is tantamount to calling Craig a lying coward, and in that sense a member of the conspiracy. I like, respect and have helped Craig precisely because he’s neither blinded by the mainstream, nor a lying coward.
Craig is wrong about the pandemic, and I expect that he will say so eventually. when he realises just how serious it is.
I had little to do on this last day of 2020 Christmas period so decided to have a dig around about Dr. Mike Yeadon. He worked for Pfizer for 17 years until they closed their R&D unit in Sandwich. He started a biotech company known as Ziarco. They focused on a drug for the treatment of atopic dermatitis (eczema). The anchor investor was BVF Partners with participation from Pfizer Venture Investments. This drug initially did well in phase 2 trials. Novartis bought it over in 2016 for an undisclosed sum but speculation put it in the order of $1 Billion. He then formed his own consultancy company.
Here is a forbes piece on this story:
And another link:
https://drug-dev.com/ziarco-pharma-acquires-pfizer-drugs-secures-financing/
““Ziarco was founded to address the significant need that still exists for new, more effective ways to treat disorders underpinned by inflammatory and allergic pathobiology. Each program in development at Ziarco has the potential to be a first-in-class therapeutic and because they target critical points within inflammatory and allergic pathways, they offer treatment options for diverse and difficult to manage diseases,” said Dr. Mike Yeadon, CEO of Ziarco.”
In July 2020:
“Novartis cut an atopic dermatitis drug from the team—and it did it on the down low. Buried in its second-quarter financial report is a line revealing that the Swiss pharma is taking a $485 million impairment charge (PDF) for halting clinical development on an eczema program it picked up in its 2016 Ziarco buyout.”
https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/novartis-dumps-ziarco-eczema-drug-taking-485m-hitIt looks like another national lockdown in Britain is imminent – tomorrow or even later tonight. Oh, except for schools, perhaps the main virus spreading places. If “population readjustment” weren’t such a serious matter, the phrase “Keep taking the tablets” would come to mind. In any case, A and not-A cannot both be true at the same time. The best advice is for people to apply that knowledge without allowing “experts” to form their opinions for them.
By the end of this month, you gotta wonder what those of us who don’t accept the mRNA vaccine – whether it’s administered by Nazional Hygiene Service nurses, or by soldiers from out the back of an army lorry, or whoever – will still be allowed to do.
The cooperation between the army and school administrators isn’t going to disappear.
Meanwhile in Wuhan in China people are allowed to socialise now as much as they like. Funny that.
In Britain, the 2020 legislation that exempts medics, nurses, etc., from liability if they accidentally kill someone when doing something that’s related to SARSCoV2 (which includes filling in for someone who’s on SARSCoV2 duties) is likely to stay active throughout the vaccination period. Huge giveaway if it does. If you accept a jab in the arm from someone who has statutory exemption from liability if the jab kills you, you must be insane.
Maybe that should be a demand by vaccine resisters – “Ask us again when you accept you’ll be liable for any harm you cause”.
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