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“Bimodal”, this doesn’t rise to the level of splitting pubic hairs, it’s gobbledygook in the context of this debate.
Statistics is a specialist study within the sciences, almost totally reliant on mathematics. Just because bimodal rhymes with biological gives it no credence in the understanding of male and female…_
I totally agree with everything you have said in this post.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Communist Party.
That being said I can only congratulate the Communist Party of Britain for a supportable position on issues transgender.
Please don’t get them confused with the Communist Party of Great Britain, you’ll cause a faction fight and we’ll probably have four more parties to contend with.I don’t see the SNP being infiltrated by an entryist CP; but it would bring a challenge to the loss of reason that male and female aren’t binary…_
https://www.communistparty.org.uk/the-gender-recognition-bill-and-equality-law/
Whereas the Communist Party of Britain seems to have their heads on the right way round, Keir Starmer seems reluctant to sort his head out, or at least get his maths correct. …”He has sought to clarify his stance on transgender issues by stating that 99.9 per cent of women “of course haven’t got a penis” … well, that’s a relief to know.
He then correctly states “For 99.9 per cent of women, it is completely biological… and of course they haven’t got a penis”. Which still leaves 0.1% of ‘women’ wondering what the dangly bits between their legs are.
OK, that 0.1% aren’t puzzled, because he is referring to men who live as women who know full well they are biological men who claim to be women.He moans that “politicians who have nothing substantive to say on the issue” are “turning everything into a toxic culture” …..got any particular politician in mind comrade?…_
This is what UK replied to me:
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I should point out that the UK system is a binary one, and currently only allows for the legal status of ‘male’ or ‘female’. With this in mind, if you would like to change your legal gender, you will need to submit an application for a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC).
All applications for a GRC are considered by the Panel, based on the documentary and medical evidence provided. The Panel consider applications in line with the terms set out by the Gender Recognition Act 2004, details of which can be found here:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/contents
Full information on how to apply for a GRC can be found on our website: https://www.gov.uk/apply-gender-recognition-certificate. If you have any further queries regarding the application process, please do not hesitate to contact us.
The proponents of binary biological sex will hopefully be surprised by the biological information in the following article. However, it is a scientific perspective, ie. based on actual evidence from reality, so fans of the tabloid newspapers will likely dismiss it with sneering contempt, as they consistently have above.
The Misuses of “Biological Sex”
by Katrina Karkazis of Amherst College;
originally published November 2019 in The Lancet,
this copy at Researchgate– …For a century, scientists studied an array of human characteristics that inform our ideas of what makes someone a woman or a man, seeking to pin down a single, definitive biological indicator of sex. Bodies troubled these schemes and socially untenable categorisations ensued. If gonads were understood as the essence of sex, women who were phenotypically female but who had testes were men. This seemed illogical, so scientists proposed yet other traits. Even as they debated which biological trait or combination of traits signalled its essence, scientists understood sex as biological and involving multiple, if contested, factors.
The six most common karyotypes of biological sex in human beings that do not result in death to the fetus:
X – Roughly 1 in 2,000 to 1 in 5,000 females (Turner’s )
XX – Most common form of female
XXY – Roughly 1 in 500 to 1 in 1,000 males (Klinefelter)
XY – Most common form of male
XYY – Roughly 1 out of 1,000 males.
XXXY – Roughly 1 in 18,000 to 1 in 50,000 male births.Fixed it for you.
Knobby, are you sure you’ve fixed it? Surely, in each point you’ve altered, you’d also have to approximately halve the population size in which one instance is found, to make up for the fact that conventionally, only approximately half of the population is regarded as male, and approximately half as female.
Pardon me for saying, but you seem to have sort of contradicted your own implied point by omitting this, er, small detail, as if you regard everyone as being both male and female.
Or just possibly, by posting under a name like Knobby, you’re trying to appear as a bit of a dickhead 😀
“Wings Over Scotland” is on form with this article which I have only just read. How anybody can defend the continued resistance to those who argue that sex is binary beggars belief. It’s also time to “Sink The Bill”.
When the Reverend Campbell pens:
“If John Swinney has even one single atom of the decency of the men who sank the Bismarck, his first act once elected as First Minister will be to scuttle the “conversion practices” bill, because it is both as evil and as doomed as the flag under which that ship sailed”
To understand the connection, here is his article…_
Wings Over Scotland: A Watery Grave (by Stu Campbell, 7 May 2024)DiggerUK, that is a very perceptive view from Wings over Scotland. Dr Cass is a genuine medical ethics hero. It is a thalidomide equivalent disaster, but won’t be recognised because mental health amputations will not be seen by the general public.
Overarching rule of medical practice: First off, do no harm.DiggerUK – “How anybody can defend the continued resistance to those who argue that sex is binary beggars belief.”
Your sentence I quoted has nothing to do with either the Cass Review, nor the Wings over Scotland article. Unless you can offer me evidence to the contrary, I will continue assuming that Dr Cass regards sex as bimodal rather than binary. I find it disingenuous of you to have turned a medical professional’s criticism of harmful treatments to your own hobby-horse of insisting that sex is binary.
DiggerUK, sex is not binary, not in humans nor other species, no matter who argues what; it just isn’t. You really ought to read this:
What Evolutionary Biology Can and Can’t Tell Us About Sex, Gender, and Sexuality
By: Prosanta Chakrabarty at MIT Press – link– Only later would I learn that some identical twins, who have matching genomes, could still end up being different sexes…
– There are actually dozens of ways your anatomical sex (whether you have a penis or a vagina) may not match your chromosomal sex (presuming XX female or XY male)…
– If, as a man, you still link your “manliness” to your Y chromosome, you might also be shocked to learn how much that chromosome degrades as you age, and how it can be lost altogether in most of the cells of many older men.
– There are also many factors that can impact how someone might be “intersex” (not being male or female but having a combination of sex-related biological traits) to varying degrees. Research puts the proportion of intersex people at around 1.7 percent of the U.S. population, or roughly 5.6 million Americans. There are, as we will see, complex interactions between genes, hormones, and environment that determine how we express our sex. We still have a lot to learn about sex and how it is expressed.
