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Thanks for those links LA.
If this is indeed the case and the police did take the red bag away for forensic examination, then at some point that bag has been transferred from the woman’s arm on the CCTV to the ground beside the Skripal bench.
I haven’t search the inquiry transcripts fully, but I have yet to find any mention of a red bag or what it might have contained.
Yulia Skripal seems to have indicated (with her blinks) that she was sprayed with something. She also indicated that this occurred in Zizzis, but none of the staff mention any spraying in their witness statements.
My belief is that she was sprayed while sitting, most likely while on the bench – but due to her memory assumes it was Zizzis as that is the last place she can remember being seated.
My other belief is that whatever she was sprayed with was being carried in the red bag, and this was left at the bench while the perpetrators walked away. If DS Bailey later investigated the bag and accidentally sprayed himself, this would explain why he was seriously affected and others were not.
I realise this theory of mine will be demolished phrase by phrase by others who rarely produce anything constructive in their posts; but I enjoy logic and my explanation is the most logical I can think of.
I don’t believe there was ever any Novichok.
No scientist has ever said categorically that Novichok was involved. In fact the only groups who have broadcast this information are two of the biggest liars in the UK; i.e. the MSM and Tory MPs.
What better way to get the propaganda across to the people?
The only photographs of the Skripal house I have seen with a police guard, show the central heating to be on (steam/vapour coming from the roof flue) and the small upstairs windows to be open. If the police had been in there to secure the property, they would have turned off the boiler and shut the windows; plus have taken the cat and the guinea pigs to an animal shelter. None of this was done.
I believe the only reasons the police guarded the property was to prevent opportunist burglars from breaking in, konwing the occupants were in hospital; and to prevent nosey media folk from discovering the sophisticated electronic transmission/receiver equipment which had been installed in Sergei’s loft.
Hence the elaborate charade of removing the roof.
The manageress, a customer and two of the waiters inside Zizzis have their names printed in full in the transcripts. However a third waiter/waitress has their name redacted.
Lapsed Agnostic, thanks for the link to The Standard article showing the photo from Solent News.
A couple of things I notice about the article.
First, the image caption says “Police put a red bag inside a police evidence bag”. But the photo does not show anyone handling the bag. The photo does show what appears to me to be an orange Sainsbury’s bag about 3-4 feet away from the policeman. The policeman is crouched down, such that in this position he would not be able to reach over to pick up the bag. The policeman does not appear to be doing anything with the red bag. If the police did in fact load the red bag shown in the photo, then this photo does not show them doing so. Are there are other photos which show the red bag being picked up and placed into the evidence bag?
Second, the article does not mention the red bag at all: it is only the image captions that refer to the red bag. It is very poor reporting to have images in the article and no further explanation.
Third, the blown-up image with the caption “The police officer investigating the red bag at the scene” seems to show the person squatting next to a beige backpack, not the red bag. Was the beige backpack at the scene, or was it a police item?
Forth, if this red bag was indeed at the scene, then it would appear in the list of items seized and tested for novichok. The inquiry website has several documents with the items tested and the results (search for documents with SAMPLE in the name on the inquiry website). I’ve looked at the six results, but none of them mention a red bag. But then, none of them mention Skripal’s wallet, which we know was retrieved from his jeans and seized at the bench scene. So perhaps there is a “sample results” document that I’ve not found on the website, or the sample results documents that are on the website have omitted the pages that contain the mention of the wallet and red bag. I’ve noticed that some of the sample results documents are not the full document with only a subset of pages, as evident from the page numbering.
In fact, the backpack in The Standard/Solent News photo looks greyish-khaki green. Suspiciously like the backpack that the Russian suspects were carrying, as this CCTV shows.
https://youtu.be/W2fs5edncFg?t=5I wonder what to make of this?
Fat Jon, you mentioned a Telegraph article where Freya Church refers to seeing a red bag at the Skripal’s feet. Good memory! The article is here. It doesn’t appear to be behind a firewall for me, so hopefully everyone can view it.
Here is another Solent News photo from the bench scene. It shows an orange bag being deposited into a metal bucket, very similar in size and colour to the one seen in the previous The Standard article above.
In this article below, the image caption is “An Incident Response team to decontaminate the area in Salisbury”. So perhaps the red/orange bag in both these photos was simply a bag used when the scene was decontaminated.
“So perhaps the red/orange bag in both these photos was simply a bag used when the scene was decontaminated.”
Perhaps it was, but it doesn’t explain why the couple walking past the shopping centre CCTV were carrying a red bag, and a red bag was described by Freya Church as being at Yulia Skripal’s feet when she passed them on the bench.
