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  • #95044 Reply
    AG

      The only thing I haven´t been able figuring out are those secret attack plans for March 2022 by AFU against Donbas which were “captured” (or indeed captured) by RU, located on a NATO laptop.

      TATYANA had translated them from screenshots which were floating online back then.
      But since no one corroborated their authenticity.

      So far they have been regarded as forgeries…
      but I haven´t given up on them.

      #95045 Reply
      Tatyana

        AG
        if it can be any help, there are images of the laptop:
        https://cdnn21.img.ria.ru/images/07e6/03/06/1776960466_0:179:1280:899_640x0_80_0_0_3d584d71443f8791ec95ca7c7e080392.jpg.webp
        the label says ‘NATO IT Asset #189736’
        published in Russian news on March 16, 2022
        https://ria.ru/20220306/noutbuk-1776933113.html
        The electronic device described as” “a laptop with intelligence data, which had a license number from the NATO registry, found in one of the headquarters of *the Right Sector”.

        *should I say again that the Right Sector are ultra-nazi Ukrainian organization, most telling role of them I find in this video – they visited some meeting, obviously to ensure the right sort of democracy
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1d_RRS_aZE
        at 3:55 he screams “The right sector!” and performs a nazi salute, while his masked guys with baseball bats come out of the meeting room and the audience applauds. Nice, eh?

        #95055 Reply
        AG

          My major worry is the nature of NATO´s limited war-making capabilities.

          NATO by design immediately zeros in on high-stakes max-escalation.
          The entire euipment is built for it, their airborne supremacy is built for it.
          US Air Force power with 12.000 war planes is built for it.

          If that fails which it would against RU since RU is no Third World Micky Mouse force they would immeditaley threaten to go “ballistic” in the truest sense of the term.

          And that would be the real plan if there ever was a plan: Confront RU with annihilation.
          Everything up to that would have been fakery and foreplay.

          JFK did the same thing. Apparently the West needs this adrenalin push every 60 years.

          NATO internally knows these are the military facts. It´s what they would truly be aiming for if they did go for the real thing.

          I doubt that the sorts of Macron and their speech-writers know this.
          Neither does anyone among the media public.

          They all share foresight of a goldfish.

          #95067 Reply
          Jack

            France labels Russia a ‘direct threat’
            PM Gabriel Attal attributes the loss of French positions in the Sahel to Russian “destabilization”

            https://swentr.site/russia/593349-france-labels-russia-threat/

            I looked up this PM of France and saw that he was born only in 1989 thus only 35 years old. People of such “young” age should not be in power of a nuclear power. We need politicians with experience and humility – there are too much hot-heads, too much ignorance among modern politicians of the west, most of them lack the diplomatic trait that is so critical and important during times of conflict and war.

            #95071 Reply
            AG

              JACK

              Christoforou on The Duran calls Attal “Macron´s Mini-Me”
              https://theduran.com/scholz-macron-fight-ft-western-forces-in-ukraine-elensky-road-trip-biden-loses-to-uncommitted/

              * * *

              2 pieces on the NYT text about the CIA-bases in UKR

              By CIA whistle-blower John Kiriakou:
              https://scheerpost.com/2024/02/29/cia-in-ukraine/
              By Patrick Lawrence:
              https://scheerpost.com/2024/02/29/patrick-lawrence-the-cia-in-ukraine-the-ny-times-gets-a-guided-tour/

              #95079 Reply
              AG

                Patrick Lawrence stripping down the NYT piece on the bunkers to what it is:

                “The CIA in Ukraine — The NY Times Gets a Guided Tour”
                https://scheerpost.com/2024/02/29/patrick-lawrence-the-cia-in-ukraine-the-ny-times-gets-a-guided-tour/

                “(…)
                Adam Entous and Michael Schwirtz tell the story of—this the subhead—“a secret intelligence partnership with Ukraine that is now critical for both countries in countering Russia.” They set the scene in a below-ground monitoring and communications center the CIA showed Ukrainian intel how to build beneath the wreckage of an army outpost destroyed in a Russian missile attack. They report on the archipelago of such places the agency paid for, designed, equipped, and now helps operate. Twelve of these, please note, are along Ukraine’s border with Russia.

                Entous and Schwirtz, it is time to mention, are not based in Ukraine. They operate from Washington and New York respectively. This indicates clearly enough the genesis of “The Spy War.” There was no breaking down of doors involved here, no intrepid correspondents digging, no tramping around in Ukraine’s mud and cold, unguided. The CIA handed these two material according to what it wanted and did not want disclosed, and various officials associated with it made themselves available as “sources”—none of the American sources named, per usual.

                Are we supposed to think these reporters found the underground bunker and all the other such installations by dint of their “investigation”—a term they have the gall to use as they describe what they did? And then they developed some kind of grand exposé of all the agency wanted to keep hidden? Is this it?

                Sheer pretense, nothing more. Entous and Schwirtz opened wide and got fed. There appears to be nothing in what they wrote that was not effectively authorized, and we can probably do without “effectively.”
                (…)”

                #95080 Reply
                AG

                  This to keep informed a bit at least on Kagarlitsky. It´s not necessary to share any views associating with Navalny but ignoring Kagarlitsky would be as inconsequential – at least from my side, complaining as I have about German authorities putting people into prison or finig them for their opinion.

                  “Freedom for Boris Kagarlitsky”
                  JACOBIN
                  https://archive.is/0N5ih

                  p.s. It is telling that German media give a damn about Kagarlitsky or any of the other true oppositional activists/intellectuals locked up in RU now. Or any other inmate of RU prisons for that matter.
                  One could think now that Navalny died RU has no convicts at all.

                  #95103 Reply
                  Tatyana

                    AG, do you use Telegram? There’s something interesting today in our news:

                    Margarita Simonyan reported on the Telegram channel that she has an audio recording in which German officers discuss attacks on the bridge across the Kerch Strait.

                    “Something very interesting was conveyed to me by comrades in uniform, just on the day when Scholz said that NATO is not participating and will not participate in the Ukrainian conflict.
                    In this most interesting recording, high-ranking Bundeswehr officers discuss how they will bomb (attention!) the Crimean bridge,” Simonyan wrote.

                    The participants in the conversation are discussing how to strike it so that suspicion does not fall on Germany. The audio recording lasts 40 minutes, in which German officers also mention the American and British military, who, in their words, have been ‘directly involved in the conflict for a long time’.

                    “Such fascinating reading and audio that I really want to publish it. To please my subscribers,” Simonyan added.

                    She emphasized that she was making an official journalistic request on this situation to the German Ambassador in Moscow, the German Foreign Minister and personally to Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

                    “How do we actually understand this? Isn’t it time for Russia to actively remind Germany how the explosions of Russian bridges ended for Germany last time? I would like to see the answer, as is customary in all requests from your media, by lunchtime today. Otherwise ‘You never know what may happen tomorrow’, Simonyan concluded.

                    After the audio recording became known, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova wrote on the Telegram channel that the German press had a reason to prove its independence and ask questions to Foreign Minister Annalene Bärbock.


                    Simomyn’s TG is here
                    https://t.me/margaritasimonyan/13752
                    I expect they may publish the recording and it must be in German language

                    #95114 Reply
                    AG

                      TATYANA

                      no TG myself (am very old-fashioned).
                      So thx!
                      I´ll post if I see anything of relevance from FRG.

                      Most likely Anti-Spiegel should bring such an item if the editor can corroborate the story.

                      #95115 Reply
                      Tatyana
                        #95116 Reply
                        AG

                          TATYANA

                          Well, that didn´t take too long.
                          This is not more than you already told me. But it´s out now. Lets see if anybody else reports.
                          (But don´t expect any meaningful official answer.)

                          via google trnsl

                          Russia demands an explanation from Germany about the Bundeswehr’s planned attack on the Crimean Bridge
                          from Anti-Spiegel
                          March 1, 2024 5:20 p.m
                          https://www-anti–spiegel-ru.translate.goog/2024/russland-fordert-von-deutschland-erklaerung-zum-von-der-bundeswehr-geplanten-angriff-auf-die-krimbruecke/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

                          #95123 Reply
                          AG

                            TATYANA

                            totally different but perhaps you like this:

                            A young naive (incredibly stupid) playwright did a play titled “Russian Troll Farm”
                            https://vineyardtheatre.org/shows/russian-troll-farm/

                            Here the devastating review:

                            “Russian Troll Farm” uses proven lies to promote Russophobic propaganda
                            By Lucy Komisar
                            https://www.thekomisarscoop.com/2024/02/russian-troll-farm-uses-proven-lies-to-promote-russophobic-propaganda/

                            p.s. Pity, today is the last night of the show

                            #95128 Reply
                            Tatyana

                              haha 🙂
                              want a Russian joke?
                              – Why do Western countries want war so much?
                              – Oh, once upon a time the President made friends with all his neighbors. Peace was established, wars stopped, and there was very successful trade, and the country earned a mountain of gold. One day this President climbed up the mountain of gold, slipped awkwardly and fell, breaking his ass. So now they avoid everything that is dangerously peaceful.

                              #95129 Reply
                              Jack

                                France considers letting Special Forces ‘cross’ into Ukraine – Le Monde

                                Paris is contemplating sending a small force into Ukrainian territory to pose “strategic dilemma” for Moscow, the French outlet has claimed

                                https://swentr.site/russia/593564-france-troops-ukraine-media/

                                Sigh why would french soldiers be a deterrent?? What on earth are these idiots smoking?!
                                Besides is there not already tons of western military advisors inside Ukraine?

                                #95134 Reply
                                AG

                                  TATYANA

                                  as is so often with RU jokes – they are way too sophisticated for a Western mind!
                                  (or to quote the UN deputy ambassador of RU, they must resort to more primitive language to make themselves understood by Western colleagues than they used to)

                                  JACK

                                  French smoking? I guess it used to be Gitanes?

                                  #95137 Reply
                                  Tatyana

                                    AG
                                    Well, yes, Russian humor is probably sharper. I’ve seen several types of humor in Western culture: ‘the grumpy interlocutor joke’ or the ‘stupid interlocutor joke’ or the ‘social grooming joke, aka veiled flattery’ and the popular ‘a joke told by a person to present himself as a slightly timid newcomer who wants to please the audience’.
                                    Russian humor mostly leans towards satire, it seems to me. As if we have an ideal picture in our heads and all that doesn’t fit into it is funny. Actually, it’s not very far from reality, as we mostly respect logic and all things reasonable.

                                    #95138 Reply
                                    AG

                                      …follow-up on “Kerch-Bridge-Gate” (haha) by Berliner Zeitung:

                                      “Explosive audio recording: Taurus missiles for attack on Crimean bridge?
                                      Russia claims to have intercepted a Bundeswehr conversation about the destruction of the Crimean Bridge with Taurus. The military counterintelligence service is investigating.”

                                      https://archive.is/Qcuo6

                                      p.s. I think that will be it. Don´t expect much more. May be they find some scapegoat and construct a fake RU-connection because he ate some Blinys recently.

                                      #95143 Reply
                                      AG

                                        WSJ has published parts of the 2022 peace plan between RU and UKR

                                        Document From 2022 Reveals Putin’s Punishing Terms for Peace
                                        Draft peace deal drawn up shortly after Russia’s invasion shows Ukraine was confronted with becoming a neutered state
                                        1/3/24
                                        https://archive.is/UbYaR

                                        see also:
                                        https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/03/lloyd-austin-doubts-protective-value-of-nato.html#comments

                                        p.s. I assume its everything but punishing since even the UKRs suggested it as favourable when they went public. And the WSJ´s 2nd phrase gives it away: “Draft peace deal drawn up shortly after Russia’s invasion shows Ukraine was confronted with becoming a neutered state”

                                        Austria and Finland and Switzerland have profitted immensly from being neutral states.
                                        So again WSJ is playing Washington´s spin doctor.

                                        #95148 Reply
                                        AG

                                          TATYANA already posted it but an allegedly slightly edited newer version of the Kerch Bridge discussion by German officers is here:

                                          “The transcript of the intercepted conversation between the Luftwaffe leadership
                                          For anyone who would rather read it, I have made a transcript of the intercepted telephone conversation of the German Air Force generals.”

                                          https://www-anti–spiegel-ru.translate.goog/2024/das-transkript-des-gespraeches-der-luftwaffen-fuehrung/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc [auto-translated from German into English]

                                          German original:
                                          https://archive.is/Z5XCH

                                          I also post it because German Army is taking it down on German TWITTER accounts sharing it.

                                          Which is love’s labour’s lost since hardly any MSM will notice it. And the other half of the population will find it if they want to anyway. So this is all rather old-fashioned.

                                          #95157 Reply
                                          AG

                                            Here you find the German media´s spin on the Kerch Bridge Leak:

                                            BERLINER ZEITUNG
                                            “Secret conversation between German generals leaked: This is how we are sliding towards the great war
                                            It’s a major disaster for the Bundeswehr: air force generals can be listened to via chat app. The 40-minute file provides insights into the mechanisms of escalation.”

                                            https://archive.is/Py891

                                            And this is one of the more decent sources. I assume others are much worse.
                                            bottom-line: whatever was said RU eavesdropped on Germans. That´s the scandal.
                                            (the origin of the leak as always appears to be known to everyone bar any prior investigation)

                                            #95158 Reply
                                            Jack

                                              John Mearsheaimer was on “Piers Morgan Show” the other day,
                                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GqGCjSANWg

                                              Not only did Piers complately disregard what Mearsheaimer said about Ukraine and Gaza but perhaps the worst hypocrisy is when Piers for 30 minutes slam Russia, Putin and their “imperialism” and “bloody” war and the russian invasion being based on lies etc…. but then we Piers speak on Israel seconds later he justify the civilian killings in Gaza just like that, he trust Netanyahu 100% and he do not speak 1 sentence about the israeli occupation and landgrab!

                                              As someone said in the comments: Its like watching a grand master chess player playing against a kid trying to learn to play checkers.

                                              I do not agree with Mearshaimer on Taiwan though where Mearshieamer seems to argue that US should go to war to defend Taiwan. Other than that, Mearsheimer is on point throughout the… “interview”.

                                              #95161 Reply
                                              AG

                                                Again German “Kerch Bridge Gate”:

                                                A new article does not question RU eavesdropping either.

                                                (If I could take a wild guess it was leaked by someone from the inside who is against Germany escalating, many members of the German Army are against such scenarios. Or in general to discredit higher-ranking German Army members.)

                                                But it is interesting to compare this piece with above BERLINER ZEITUNG: Latter argues, the passages of how to destroy the bridge were merely a theoretical discussion to prepare a presentation to be more lively with more nuanced and more believable details (quite a stunt of the journalist to justify it.)

                                                This now plainly admits it was about destroying the bridge:

                                                “Russian eavesdropping and Taurus operation: What the media and politicians overlook”
                                                https://www-telepolis-de.translate.goog/features/Russischer-Lauschangriff-und-Taurus-Einsatz-Was-Medien-und-Politiker-uebersehen-9644405.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

                                                But this entire incident is again proof of the lowest of intellectual lows of German media and poitics.
                                                Shameful…

                                                #95164 Reply
                                                Jack

                                                  The internal fighting within Ukraine that MSM never speak about:

                                                  Ukrainian opposition complains to EU about ‘repression’
                                                  The European Solidarity party has decried the “authoritarianism” spreading within the country
                                                  https://swentr.site/russia/593643-ukrainian-opposition-complains-repression/

                                                  In other news:

                                                  German MP warns against ending up like Hitler
                                                  Berlin should talk to Moscow instead of sending weapons to Kiev, Matthias Moosdorf has said

                                                  https://swentr.site/news/592981-mess-russia-end-napoleon-hitler/

                                                  And in Finland they now hail nuclear weapons, absolute senseless!

                                                  Finland’s new president hails American nuclear weapons
                                                  Alexander Stubb has vowed to maintain a close relationship with Washington and the West
                                                  https://swentr.site/news/593639-finland-nuclear-deterrent-president/
                                                  It is especially dangerous that Finland of all nations have lost all their senses, Finland was to recently, one of few neutral nations that Russia could speak too.

                                                  In the cold war people protested nuclear arms, today they hail them!

                                                  #95165 Reply
                                                  Jack

                                                    To add to my comment above, it is absurd that so many europeans are so brainwashed that they are led to believe that US would sacrifice their own nation, population to defend states like Finland if there was a war between Russia/Nato.

                                                    #95166 Reply
                                                    AG

                                                      An intereting perspective on Italy in the current situation by naked capitalism, with a little on the country´s ties to RU.

                                                      Democratic Rights Are No Excuse for Airing Russian Perspectives in Europe
                                                      As the European public continues to turn against the fast-collapsing Project Ukraine, we’re seeing increasingly desperate attempts to blame Russian disinformation for the eroding support.

                                                      In Italy, spooks, media, and think tanks are warning that the crafty Russians are stealthily manipulating Italians. This isn’t unique to Italy, but bears watching as the public there has never been all that supportive of the Ukraine proxy war and larger economic war against Russia. There are a variety of reasons for that, including the fact that Europe’s second largest manufacturing base (behind Germany) with longstanding strong economic ties to Russia had a lot to lose.”

                                                      https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/03/democratic-rights-are-no-excuse-for-airing-russian-perspectives-in-europe.html

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