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  • #96100 Reply
    michael norton

      It certainly does seem to me that Russia will benefit from these sanctions.
      Lloyds of London was at one time the main ship insurance dealer, in the World but if they refuse to deal with Russia, Russia will most likely insure their own ships.
      Business lost through bad actions, is not usually won back.
      The losers will be America, Ukraine and Europe.

      #96101 Reply
      AG

        Geoffrey Roberts has done some great work as historian, but this makes zero sense to me:
        “Putin’s Trump Card: Ukrainian Membership of NATO”

        “President Vladimir Putin started the Ukraine war and he could – and should – end it by negotiating a peace deal that includes Ukraine’s membership of NATO.”

        https://braveneweurope.com/geoffrey-roberts-putins-trump-card-ukrainian-membership-of-nato

        #96111 Reply
        AG

          from the news

          “Being abroad does not relieve a Ukrainian citizen of the duty to defend the country, and the Ukrainian Foreign Minister has ordered consular services for compatriots abroad to be suspended. Commenting on his decision, the minister said it was intended to help “restore the proper treatment of men of mobilization age in Ukraine and abroad”. “Men of conscription age serving abroad” cannot receive services from a state they do not want to defend, Kuleba added.

          Ukrainian media are also reporting difficulties in issuing passports in the country’s passport offices. In many places, including Kiev, there have been no places left on the electronic waiting list for the submission of documents for several weeks. At the same time, the Ukrainian state-owned company Document, which produces passports, announced that Ukrainians have been unable to obtain passports abroad since April 23 due to a “technical defect”; the timeframe for rectifying the problem has not yet been determined.”

          #96112 Reply
          Tatyana

            Michael Norton, I agree with you. And I also want to add on sanctions and the description that the AG gives above, about the impoverishment of Ukrainians due to the war.

            IMO, Ukrainians became impoverished long before that, and it was from the USSR that they emerged as the richest republic, but since managed to lose everything. I see the reason for this is that they began to cultivate nationalism with the denial of everything Russian, including history of USSR.

            Otherwise, they would have known well what happened in the 90s here. A clown president came, saying “we have no enemies in the West” and who in the American Congress said “God bless America.” And the national assets of this country fell into the hands of oligarchs, all as one with Jewish roots and London connections (that period is known as the Seven Bankers). Western intelligence agencies sat with their feet on the table in the offices of our officials, Western companies profiteered from our resources, and Western non-governmental foundations wrote books on which our youth studied (how not to remember here DeSantis and the proper way to use anal plugs in school libraries in the USA)

            It describes pre-war Ukraine exactly. Monsanto and Black Rock are now the owners of Ukrainian lands, the American president demands the dismissal of the Ukrainian prosecutor, Nuland is called the most influential woman of Ukraine, old German ideologies are revived, and all this is named ‘Ukrainian national identity’.

            I know that they did not have presidential elections on time and that Zelensky loses legitimacy on May 20 this year, less than in month. Zelensky, an ex-comedian who claims that he is Jewish.
            I don’t know who will be the head of these territories (I cannot call it a state, and even more so a Ukrainian state). It looks like the younger generations grew up on a distorted version of history, made mistakes because of this, and will now lose everything into Western hands.

            I could give advice to elect a Ukrainian as the president, transfer national property to the management of national agencies, find a dialogue with neighbors for the sake of long-term sustainable peace, and then work hard.
            But I’m a Russian and they won’t listen to me.

            #96116 Reply
            AG

              today’s topics by Christoforou:
              Sunak, UK war footing. Szijjarto, EU war psychosis. Europe troops in Ukraine. 2026, EU defeats Putin

              https://theduran.com/sunak-uk-war-footing-szijjarto-eu-war-psychosis-europe-troops-in-ukraine-2026-eu-defeats-putin/

              I don’t necessarily take the EU-high-level war-passion seriously, which he describes convincingly in the video – unless they would dare to implement major war to win an election. I don’t know if they are that demented.

              #96117 Reply
              AG

                TATYANA and Co.

                what I found most revealing in that article that I had posted above, was about the ECONOMIST itself – which would confirm that outlet´s reputation – they – the staff – don´t realize that with the “old, sick and poor” it is the usual group of people who suffer anywhere in the world whether its war or peace.

                So frankly there is noting extraordinary about that. Which could lead me to the very unfriendly conclusion that the war has by far not been as horrible to UKR as the urban Western legend 24/7 wants us to believe. And where it has been brutal, it has been so in the very same areas since 2014. Which the West gave a fuck for. So nothing changed.

                If you exclude the Hundreds of Thousands killed and maimed soldiers (the real tragey here)- the others have lives more or less the same.
                What fuckin democracy is in danger there? For Christ´s Sake. If they had been a real democracy we would have never gotten into this mess.

                p.s. a detail I found interesting – this is not the ECONOMIST any more of course – Mark Sleboda I think, articulated this theory, that the new Minister of Defense, the one who likes to sacrifice his soldiers at the front, however not by coincidence is in majority sending Neonazi units into the heavy fighting with the covert intent to get rid of them – so that Zelensky – (who I think is more complex, or was more complex than we might think, or lets say honest, in the first year of his prsidency, or so) – eventually may use the war to wipe out many of those nutheads who made life for him difficult.

                As I said last year, in a worst scase scenario for Zelensky RU would still turn out the safest place for him. Unless Sean Penn doesn´t make him an American citizen.

                I mean Zelensky knows what is true and what is not.
                In his heart and if he sat with his shrink.

                Everything he does is public and therefoe 100% acting and fake. Of course he gets tired sometimes and might take a near overdose – but hell that´s how most actors work in the business. They are all morons. Being a moron in public is part of an actor´s job.
                But in regards to Ukraine he deep inside knows political myths and facts.
                I am not excusing anybody here. Just stating my sober observations.

                #96125 Reply
                AG

                  Mark Sleboda wondering if Zaluzhny is not in fact interned in Ukr and never arrived in London. Since he has never been sighted there.
                  And pointing out that the new US aid package might slow down things for the RU army a bit.
                  Including rocket launchers now capable to reach 300 km. Which confirms the plan to basically terrorize people on RU territory, since NATO can´t do much more.
                  On the other hand, AFU army units are refusing to fight in areas which are fit for suicide only.
                  27 min.
                  24/4/24

                  https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/what-really-happened-to-zaluzhny

                  #96126 Reply
                  AG

                    UKR Aid package:

                    TWITTER:

                    “The new package of American aid to Ukraine will include armored vehicles, Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, HMWWV military multi-purpose vehicles, M113 armored personnel carriers, artillery and ammunition for air defense.

                    In addition, British Prime Minister Risha Sunak said that London is preparing the largest aid package for Kyiv. It is planned to transfer 400 vehicles, 60 boats, about 4 million cartridges for small arms to Ukraine, as well as more than 1.6 thousand shock missiles and air defense missiles. Kyiv will also receive Storm Shadow air-to-ground missiles from London.

                    ⭐️ This will not change the situation. But the conflict is prolonged.

                    Two majors”

                    https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1782668926562021676

                    23/4/24

                    p.s. 20 billion I think however are already reserved for replenishing US´ own stocks (which I assume was the real reason for the House to pass the bill.)

                    #96180 Reply
                    michael norton

                      United Kingdom to increase defence spending by £80,000,000,000
                      eighty billion pounds.
                      The best bit is Rishi will be getting hold of the money by sacking 70,000 civil servants.
                      Rishi has been in Poland trying to talk the Polish, to get more involved with the war in Ukraine.

                      I have written to my M.P. a few times, suggesting Ukraine talk to Mr. Putin to end the pointless deaths, but my M.P. does not answer?

                      #96187 Reply
                      michael norton

                        I expect this view is shocking.
                        It seems obvious to me that Russia will win the war in Ukraine, which is mostly about NATO encroachment into the hinterland of Russia. Why doesn’t Britain understand and embrace this change?
                        Why not talk, trade and engage with Russia. Our future might be more realistic if we dealt with Russia, rather than toady up to America?

                        #96235 Reply
                        Jack

                          michael norton

                          Indeed, western world have been gripped by hubris and prestige and have changed the narrative accordingly instead of seeking peace. Now, when the war should be concluded by peaceful means/talks as Ukraine obviously cannot achive their goals militarly, the west have instead escalated and now the argument is not Ukraine anymore but that Russia would go after all of europe if they win in Ukraine. They keep moving the goal posts, they take war, escalation above peace.


                          In other news

                          US spies believe Putin didn’t order Navalny’s death – WSJ
                          The Russian president isn’t likely to have mandated the killing of the imprisoned opposition figure, the sources have told the outlet

                          https://swentr.site/news/596674-navalny-putin-us-cia/

                          #96329 Reply
                          Jack

                            Unfortunately but probably true: ICC anonymous sources claim that ICC will not announce any charge against Netanyahu if ICC do not get a blessing by the US to do so.

                            The source’s comments follow reports in Israeli media this week citing senior ICC sources that the Hague could not consider arrest warrants against Israeli leaders without Washington’s informal consent.
                            https://sputnikglobe.com/20240428/israel-reportedly-concerned-biden-may-throw-netanyahu-under-the-bus-at-icc-1118161639.html

                            #96444 Reply
                            AG

                              Does anyone know how substantiated the allegations regarding RU paper “Meduza” are that they are cooperating with US intelligence?
                              About the “Moscow Times” it is known that Dutch government e.g. owns a big part of that paper. However MT never had the reputation of “Meduza” as a serious outlet. (I do not know in how far any of these assessments of quaity were ever true or not or how/why they changed. Since in Germany we know virtually nothing about RU except that RUs drive T-34s drunk.)

                              #96445 Reply
                              michael norton

                                “it’s not too late for Ukraine to prevail”.

                                Jens Stoltenberg is deluded

                                Secretary General of NATO
                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68923225

                                #96446 Reply
                                michael norton

                                  “Ruthless”
                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUwP2p70D-s

                                  Anyday now the term of Z expires, after that he will not be the legite president of Ukraine, there has not and will not be an election in Ukraine.
                                  The Whitehouse is urging the Ukraine Regime to encourage more men to join the Ukraine Army, probably so they will be slaughtered, just so Biden does not look like a loser.

                                  #96454 Reply
                                  Pears Morgaine

                                    I wonder you’ve the time to waste to listen to that smug, self appointed ‘expert’. An hour and a half of waffle which anybody else could condense into 20 minutes.

                                    #96457 Reply
                                    AG

                                      3 recommended texts on Western meddling in UKR + GEORGIAN politics via public PR ops:

                                      #1
                                      Lee Fang from THE INTERCEPT with a good piece on his own SUBSTACK about US influence on several major UKR media outlets
                                      – (New Voice of Ukraine, VoxUkraine, Detector Media, the Institute of Mass Information, the Public Broadcasting Company of Ukraine) – and this way meddling in Ukrainian domestic media politics much more than the mainstream media (to some extent THE INTERCEPT too) is willing to admit.

                                      “U.S. Funds Ukraine Groups Censoring Critics, Smearing Pro-Peace Voices
                                      American taxpayers are footing the bill for Ukrainian NGOs focused on smearing proponents of a diplomatic solution as “Russian disinformation” agents.”
                                      April 11th 2024

                                      https://www.leefang.com/p/us-funds-ukraine-groups-censoring
                                      or
                                      https://archive.is/Pc8Yn

                                      “While the funding is officially billed as an ambitious program to develop high-quality independent news programs; counter malign Russian influence; and modernize Ukraine’s archaic media laws, the new sites in many cases have promoted aggressive messages that stray from traditional journalistic practices to promote the Ukrainian government’s official positions and delegitimize its critics.”

                                      #2
                                      similar topic, re: Georgia

                                      “Some thoughts about Foreign Influence Law in Georgia and EU
                                      Reactionary Dual Power in Georgia”
                                      by Sopo Japaridze

                                      https://discomfortzone.substack.com/cp/143837943

                                      Without being a friend of RU, the author is very well able to distinguish and point out the nature behind the attempted power grab via NGOs:

                                      “In the Georgian context, the opposition faction has established its own media channels, educational institutions, and non-governmental organizations.

                                      Their source of power stems from legitimacy and direct access granted by the EU and US embassy, rather than grassroots support. Unlike the situation in the EU, where parliament members are elected by the people and can theoretically represent their interests, in Georgia, unelected representatives of NGOs hold sway and have access to EU bodies and representatives. They have significant financial resources to fund their activities. They lack the incentive to consider the impact of the policies or demands they advocate for, as they face no electoral accountability unlike the government. Their control over institutions and counter-institutions enables them to propagate propaganda and mobilize thousands of people.”

                                      #3
                                      I already suggested last year, a long excellent piece on the EU hypocrisy regarding NGOs and foreign agent laws re: Eastern Europa:

                                      “Foreign agent law fundamentals, part I: we need to be honest with ourselves
                                      Thoughts on recent events in Georgia”
                                      by Almut Rochowanski
                                      March 17th 2023

                                      https://discomfortzone.substack.com/p/foreign-agent-law-fundamentals-part?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

                                      ps. see reader´s comment und US FARA.

                                      #96507 Reply
                                      michael norton

                                        Two years after the war started 10,500 civilians have died in Ukraine (February 2024).
                                        In the few months that the war in Gaza has been going on, over 40,000 civilians have been killed in Gaza.

                                        #96510 Reply
                                        Tatyana

                                          Abrams and Leopards in Moscow, but not in the way you might’ve imagined 🙂
                                          https://youtu.be/ATsA3Ei2_dg

                                          We exhibit Western military machines captured in the battlefields in Ukraine. I wish I could invite @Tom Welsh to see this.

                                          This feeling, when you imagine a Western taxpayer spending their money to provide the Russians with their military secrets.

                                          If someone is interested to watch more, Russian words for googling
                                          Выставка трофейной техники на Поклонной горе

                                          #96511 Reply
                                          Jack

                                            michael norton

                                            Exactly, and then, on top of that one should add the ratio of populations between Gaza and Ukraine: it is a monstrous number of people killed in Gaza.
                                            Sickening how normalized this killing have become.

                                            #96520 Reply
                                            Tatyana

                                              Latvian Foreign Minister Baiba Braze said that a number of Ukraine’s Western partners have already provided Kyiv with long-range weapons, allowing them to be used for attacks on Russia

                                              I guess the strikes are being planned already, by Britain, Germany and France.

                                              #96675 Reply
                                              AG

                                                Tatyana

                                                I am not interested any more in military gear on open display. I used to be as a kid in the US. There they had all kinds of such exhibitions. But in the USA thats part of everyday culture.

                                                However concerning the current Moscow exhibits – it is indeed of significance – and any German should take most careful note of that (which they WON´T) – that next to 2023 Leopards, they have 1943 built Leopards.

                                                I mean just ponder over that for a beat.

                                                The incredible scandal won´t get more obvious.

                                                Speaking of historic continuity, and thinking of German expertise in utilizing such exhibits for moral lessons and educating the people – as is being done with the Holocaust – I can only throw up over this heinous double standard und our lies, lies, lies, lies, lies.

                                                #96676 Reply
                                                AG

                                                  Tatyana

                                                  yep

                                                  #96877 Reply
                                                  Jack

                                                    Macron keep doubling down, for what I do not know. Perhaps he try to pose himself as the new leader of the EU week before the EU election?
                                                    Hungary, Italy, Slovakia and even UK have past week distanced themselves from Macron’s sending-troops claim.

                                                    Macron warns about Russian missiles in a defeated Ukraine
                                                    The potential redeployment of Moscow’s military assets would threaten not only Kiev’s neighbors, but France itself, the president has said

                                                    Macron further noted that Ukraine is crucial to France’s security because it is located only 1,500 kilometers from its borders. “If Russia wins, the next second, there is no longer any security possible in Romania, in Poland, in Lithuania and not in our country either. The capability and range of Russian ballistic missiles expose us all,” he said.

                                                    https://swentr.site/news/597014-macron-warning-russian-missiles/

                                                    Sigh, Russia could of course already today target the whole of the world (like any other big military power).

                                                    #97069 Reply
                                                    AG

                                                      On May 9th celebration, long text:

                                                      “Remembering A Day the West Wants to Forget”

                                                      “In a few days Russians will celebrate Victory Day, one of the most important dates (May 9) on its calendar, which marks the triumph over Nazi Germany.

                                                      While the USSR played the biggest role in defeating the Third Reich, that contribution has been thrown into question in the West by historical revisionists in recent years who instead seek to blame the USSR for WWII.

                                                      It will be interesting to see what kind of comments emerge from the West this year. It’s notable that Russian representatives (but nor President Valdirmir Putin) have been invited to the French D-Day anniversary at Normandy in June. Importantly, the Liberation Mission organizing committee in its invitation to Moscow noted “the importance of the commitment and sacrifices of the Soviet peoples, as well as its contribution to the 1945 victory.” I haven’t seen whether Russia plans on accepting the invitation.

                                                      Around 25 million residents of the USSR died in the Second World War; yet Western officials and media and think tank personalities now largely use the Victory Day occasion to taunt Russia.”

                                                      https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/05/remembering-a-day-the-west-wants-to-forget.html

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