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  • #88161 Reply
    Oscar

      If anyone needs the last backup they posted on the web (August 28), let me know and I will send it to you.

      #88164 Reply
      Fat Jon

        This from a few hours ago on their Twitter feed.

        “WikiSpooks @SpooksWiki
        13h

        Some “group” has taken us down temporarily, as DDoS attacks don’t work anymore. So. We’re currently trying to fix this issue. More info in the following week. For now we’re trying to set up a mirror. More info soon!”

        I think more detailed information may appear on Reddit, but I am not a member.

        #88167 Reply
        Clark

          whois still shows clientHold, but the server’s responding to pings:

          clark@Old-HP:~$ ping 198.199.127.59

          PING 198.199.127.59 (198.199.127.59) 56(84) bytes of data.
          64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=26.2 ms
          64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=25.8 ms
          64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=25.9 ms
          64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=4 ttl=55 time=25.6 ms
          64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=5 ttl=55 time=25.9 ms
          64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=6 ttl=55 time=27.0 ms
          64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=7 ttl=55 time=26.5 ms
          ^C
          — 198.199.127.59 ping statistics —
          7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6007ms
          rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 25.696/26.191/27.077/0.461 ms

          clark@Old-HP:~$

          #88168 Reply
          Clark

            And this method is working again:

            https://198.199.127.59/wiki/User:Patrick_Haseldine

            That means that the hosts file method should be working again too.

            #88171 Reply
            Demeter

              Thanks for all the very useful, informative comments posted here. The wonderful Wayback machine also has a very recent, pretty navigable backup of wikispooks, which can be found here:

              https://web.archive.org/web/20220805175753/https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Wikispooks:Projects

              #88200 Reply
              Patrick Haseldine
                #88209 Reply
                Clark

                  Congrats Wikispooks!

                  clark@Old-HP:~$ whois wikispooks.com

                  Domain Name: WIKISPOOKS.COM
                  Registry Domain ID: 1591113666_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
                  Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.joker.com
                  Registrar URL: http://www.joker.com
                  Updated Date: 2022-09-05T11:28:22Z
                  Creation Date: 2010-04-01T15:18:34Z
                  Registry Expiry Date: 2027-04-01T15:18:34Z
                  Registrar: CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH d/b/a joker.com
                  Registrar IANA ID: 113
                  Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
                  Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +49.21186767447
                  Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
                  Name Server: X.NS.JOKER.COM
                  Name Server: Y.NS.JOKER.COM
                  Name Server: Z.NS.JOKER.COM
                  DNSSEC: unsigned
                  URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
                  >>> Last update of whois database: 2022-09-05T22:13:18Z <<<

                  clark@Old-HP:~$ nslookup wikispooks.com Z.NS.JOKER.COM

                  Server: Z.NS.JOKER.COM
                  Address: 144.217.81.63#53

                  Name: wikispooks.com
                  Address: 198.199.127.59

                  clark@Old-HP:~$ ping 198.199.127.59

                  PING 198.199.127.59 (198.199.127.59) 56(84) bytes of data.
                  64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=27.9 ms
                  64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=27.5 ms
                  64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=27.9 ms
                  64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=27.9 ms
                  64 bytes from 198.199.127.59: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=27.4 ms
                  ^C
                  — 198.199.127.59 ping statistics —
                  5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4004ms
                  rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 27.460/27.769/27.978/0.300 ms

                  clark@Old-HP:~$

                  #88213 Reply
                  Demeter

                    So sad to say you behave like a clique, if a comment isn’t from one of ur clique, seems you ignore it to negate its worth.

                    That is beyond sad, ask yourselves what your true interest is.

                    #88214 Reply
                    Demeter

                      Guys who hate different points of view float loads of bumfluff. Definitely seeing that in response to my original, respectful comment

                      #88216 Reply
                      Demeter

                        Craig is a few years younger than me, been techy since the late ’70’s. Back in a Uni summer job, i worked for the then GPO HQ, look it up youngsters. Fell in love with the computer which had it’s own massive office, we dealt with wages, sickness benefit etc for the whole GPO, i even used to talk to it when it misbehaved, which was often.

                        Obviously, i’ve been Linux since the very early millenium, would appreciate some respect. There’s no doubt Linux has questionable origins but we can do more than hope.

                        #88217 Reply
                        ET

                          “So sad to say you behave like a clique…………..”

                          What gives you that idea? Just so as you know, I suspect everyone posting in this thread is well aware of wayback machine.

                          #88219 Reply
                          Demeter

                            Was the one who posted the link to the wayback machine backup ET, both here and on The Expose. Backed up the full 12 gbs to two drives which are never connected to the net, have this rig for info n fun, also have a state of the art, AMD rig and laptop, i’ve built myself.

                            Definitely not convinced AMD is safer but KNOW Intel is screwed. Keep in mind everything is probably killswitched for the Great Reset, the only possible hope of saving stuff for future generations, is if you currently have a rig or two, u connect to the net for updates only.

                            #88220 Reply
                            Demeter

                              Also, some Linux distros can be run from USBs, arm yourself with a few, could be a lifesaver.

                              #88221 Reply
                              Demeter

                                Simple way to reduce external control on your rig is disable hyperthreading. Using it opens up you to external control, also, the difference in disabling it will hardly reduce any advantage.

                                Wake Up!

                                #88228 Reply
                                Clark

                                  Demeter, I had no intention of seeming disrespectful; probably I should have thanked you for the archive.org link, though this is not my thread, I did not open the topic for discussion, I’m merely a contributor on this one. I agree that the Wayback Machine is an excellent resource. I often use it and post links to archived material.

                                  I do derive some pride from posting commands and the output they produce, but I also wish to empower other readers to learn a few commands, how to teach themselves by using the man pages, understand a little about DNS, domain registration, IP addresses etc.

                                  My experience with GNU/Linux began with Knoppix LiveCDs (version 4.8 onwards, I think), initially to regain access to files when friends’ WindowsXP installations became too compromised to boot, as they frequently did. These days I frequently use bootable USB systems. I’m surprised and disappointed that you didn’t mention GNU; after all, whois, nslookup and ping are not part of linux.

                                  Thanks for the hyperthreading tip which is something I hadn’t considered. I hope you take measures to control JavaScript.

                                  I already own (next to) nothing but often I’m not happy.

                                  #88229 Reply
                                  Clark

                                    Aside –

                                    Demeter, regarding GPO industrial archaeology, while in Scarborough recently I noticed an access cover in the pavement (“manhole cover”) with “GPO TELEGRAPHS” moulded into it. I soon noticed a few more, and since then have seen them in London and Chelmsford. They must be quite old by now!

                                    #88248 Reply
                                    Demeter02

                                      Sorry Clark and all, had the “we’re doomed” feeling in the wee hours, shouldn’t have posted while feeling that way. Sure many of you know what I mean. Happy to say my equilibrium is restored now.

                                      Heh! Still call them manhole covers too, us old dears aren’t usually prone to being precious. The covers aren’t just old, probably worth quite a bob too and glad to say wikispooks is accessible again, without changing IP.

                                      #88249 Reply
                                      Clark

                                        Demeter, good to hear from you, and I’m glad you’re feeling better, for now.

                                        “…had the “we’re doomed” feeling”

                                        Understandable, and appropriate in this escalating crisis. Kia kaha.

                                        #88251 Reply
                                        Demeter

                                          Bless you Clark, glad you understood. Posted a comment in the environmental thread, just an intro to how i view such things, hope it makes sense to you.

                                          #88284 Reply
                                          Oscar

                                            @Demeter,

                                            I am genuinely scientifically minded (nothing to do with what “science” has become).

                                            I believe that in order to maintain balance while dealing with sometimes too hard truths, spirituality can be helpful. Again, I’m not talking about organized religion or referring to any personal God (although if you believe in that that’s fine, it’s another expression of That).

                                            Personally meditation and the frame of reference of non-duality have been crucial for me. That and an exercise of conscious forgiveness towards “them”; which does not imply inaction, on the contrary, it is a conscious and serene dissent.

                                            Fraternally,

                                            Oscar

                                            #88298 Reply
                                            Clark

                                              Oscar, I too consider myself non-dualist; from what I know of physical reality, it seems easily subtle and versatile enough to support what we call spirituality, in fact it looks ideal to do so, which is interesting in itself. And there’s clearly something creative going on in reality. We have good explanations for why things decay, but not for why things diversify and become, well, better and more interesting.

                                              Where do you draw your line between science and what you called “science”, and how do you tell them apart? For me, a matter is scientific if it is testable.

                                              #88329 Reply
                                              Oscar

                                                @Clark, in my opinion, true science is basically testable, as you say, and the true scientist in addition to adhering to the scientific method (and adapting it to the object of study, for example, as scientific psychology has done – I am a psychologist), is open-minded to the appearance of “anomalies” that do not fit the dominant paradigm. The dogmatic attitude is by definition anti-scientific, but unfortunately it is the prevailing one in high circles of respectable and honourable scientists and scholars.

                                                I do not want to polemicise, but I will give some examples. The UFO phenomenon: it is well documented that it is real and not merely seeing something flying that you don’t know what it is; there are also well documented cases of ALLEGED contact with human beings (including physical traces). I personally believe that the extraterrestrial hypothesis of these “encounters” is not tenable (I recommend the book Messengers of Deception by a scientist, Jacques Vallée). I suspect that the subject will be instrumentalised throughout this century.

                                                Another example of real scientific thinking can be found in Professor Ian Stevenson. A colleague of his, with impeccable credentials, stated that: “Either he is making a colossal mistake, or he will be known (I have said as much to him) as ‘the Galileo of the 20th century'”. Stevenson never claimed that reincarnation exists (which is impossible in the ULTIMATE INSTANCE — non-dual point of view — just as the linear time we think we know is impossible although we perceive it that way… physicists have known this for a long time), but he made a scientific investigation of cases that made us suspect its existence (although there may be other explanations, such as information “fields” that connect space and time). I won’t go into levels of reality in correlation with levels of identity…

                                                The third example: the CIA and other intelligence agencies of the USA, as well as of the USSR and some other countries. In the last decades of the last century they investigated what civilian scientists angrily denied: “paranormal things”. Incidentally, declassified documents show that many of these things DO EXIST. And many of the researchers involved in such investigations, such as Russell Targ or Harold Puthoff, subsequently published interesting works. Again we come across power and historical aspects that are rarely taken into account when writing history books.

                                                In short, real science will show curiosity about things that happen in the sky, on the ground or underground, as well as things that happened, are happening and will happen. False science will cling to a paradigm even though there are more and more verifiable facts that question it. This dynamic was well put by Thomas Kuhn in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.

                                                Sorry for the length.

                                                Regards,

                                                Oscar

                                                #88341 Reply
                                                Oscar

                                                  Incidentally, dogmatised science – as well as dogmatised and organised religion – is not only hijacked by the egos of the great scientists, but also by whoever puts up the money. In other words, confusing fake science with real science has very real and dangerous socio-political ramifications… We have a recent example… which is discussed on Wikispooks, by the way. And if we continue to accept as science what is not, if we continue to fail to understand how real science works, if we continue to fail to learn how to handle information sources seriously and rigorously, we can only expect to be manipulated with “scientific data”… which by definition means technocracy. First data from “economic science” was used, recently from “health science”… any bets for the next one? I’ll say one: the science of fear.

                                                  #88346 Reply
                                                  Oscar

                                                    My first reply has been deleted after it was successfully posted. I suspect it was off-topic and upset someone. No harm done. 🙂


                                                    [ Mod: Nothing to worry about, Oscar. We’re currently receiving a stream of off-topic contributions on another thread, and your first reply got caught up in that. It has now been restored.

                                                    Incidentally, please make an effort to stay on topic. If you can’t easily relate what you’re saying to the title, then it’s time to start a new discussion on that topic. ]

                                                    #88348 Reply
                                                    Oscar

                                                      And my publication has just reappeared. I’d better shut up!

                                                      Take care of yourselves. 😉

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